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Topic: it would be these two
msharmony's photo
Sun 08/25/13 02:01 PM




the outrage about TREYVON martin stemmed from no one being held ACCOUNTABLE for the boys death




If you need culpability, look to Martin's parents...Alicia shipped him down to Florida to stay with his daddy cause she could no longer handle him....




And apparently his daddy couldn't handle him either!



and you know this how?

because at 17 he walked alone to a store....?....lol


this world is crazy as hell sometimes,,,

no photo
Sun 08/25/13 02:04 PM










the outrage about TREYVON martin stemmed from no one being held ACCOUNTABLE for the boys death




If you need culpability, look to Martin's parents...Alicia shipped him down to Florida to stay with his daddy cause she could no longer handle him....




so what? parents sharing custody of a child makes them responsible for an adults actions that cause the childs death?

since when?


So what?...So she wouldn't have to take the heat when he managed to off somebody or get offed....Marty should have kept a closer eye on "his" kid....


sure, if ya think a 16 year old being permitted to go to store on his own shows some type of parental lacking,,

than by all means, lets crucify those who allowed it,,,


In view of Trayvon's history, yeah I do...In the rain, late at night, in Florida where things were a lot different than the "hood" he came from, yeah, I do...and he was 17, not 16....His parents failed him...Both of them...



yep, and considering zimmermns 'history',, neighborhood watch failed Treyvon, a visitor to a resident there

allowing him to be neighborhood watch captain AND recommending he carry a gun

IN SPITE of having (in his ADULT YEARS) had a restraining order against him for alleged assault

and having to take (anger management courses?) for putting his hands on a cop

and being let go from a job for literally throwing a woman out of a party,,,,





All the more reason Marty should have "taken" his son to the store to get his "ingredients" that night....



perception is a wonderful thing

everybody has one


the 'ingredients' that any child going to a store may be getting as long as they have candy and a sweet drink

are somehow suspect to validate this minors death

and I don't know any 16 year olds whose parents walk them to the store,, whatever trouble they may have been in

zimmermans certainly didn't,,,and we see the trouble he has gotten into AS AN ADULT before that night ever happened


we don't all want to raise paranoid children by following them around into their teen years

but its sad that its come to a point where that seems like the REASONABLE option to avoid someone being shot,,,,





This type of rationalization makes it easier for me to understand why black men are killing each other every day....and he was 17...

metalwing's photo
Sun 08/25/13 02:04 PM

what 'hand up' did government give 'blacks' exclusively


Im curious....

and what of white kids who are disruptive

or rock music that exalts sexism and amoral behavior

how are these 'black' issues somehow?


The commentators seems to think they were black issues without question.

It's called "affirmative action". I'm sure you've heard of it.

msharmony's photo
Sun 08/25/13 02:05 PM











the outrage about TREYVON martin stemmed from no one being held ACCOUNTABLE for the boys death




If you need culpability, look to Martin's parents...Alicia shipped him down to Florida to stay with his daddy cause she could no longer handle him....




so what? parents sharing custody of a child makes them responsible for an adults actions that cause the childs death?

since when?


So what?...So she wouldn't have to take the heat when he managed to off somebody or get offed....Marty should have kept a closer eye on "his" kid....


sure, if ya think a 16 year old being permitted to go to store on his own shows some type of parental lacking,,

than by all means, lets crucify those who allowed it,,,


In view of Trayvon's history, yeah I do...In the rain, late at night, in Florida where things were a lot different than the "hood" he came from, yeah, I do...and he was 17, not 16....His parents failed him...Both of them...



yep, and considering zimmermns 'history',, neighborhood watch failed Treyvon, a visitor to a resident there

allowing him to be neighborhood watch captain AND recommending he carry a gun

IN SPITE of having (in his ADULT YEARS) had a restraining order against him for alleged assault

and having to take (anger management courses?) for putting his hands on a cop

and being let go from a job for literally throwing a woman out of a party,,,,





All the more reason Marty should have "taken" his son to the store to get his "ingredients" that night....



perception is a wonderful thing

everybody has one


the 'ingredients' that any child going to a store may be getting as long as they have candy and a sweet drink

are somehow suspect to validate this minors death

and I don't know any 16 year olds whose parents walk them to the store,, whatever trouble they may have been in

zimmermans certainly didn't,,,and we see the trouble he has gotten into AS AN ADULT before that night ever happened


we don't all want to raise paranoid children by following them around into their teen years

but its sad that its come to a point where that seems like the REASONABLE option to avoid someone being shot,,,,





This type of rationalization makes it easier for me to understand why black men are killing each other every day....and he was 17...



yeah, doubt most here were having a hard time 'understanding' the whole black on black crime 'epidemic'



msharmony's photo
Sun 08/25/13 02:06 PM


what 'hand up' did government give 'blacks' exclusively


Im curious....

and what of white kids who are disruptive

or rock music that exalts sexism and amoral behavior

how are these 'black' issues somehow?


The commentators seems to think they were black issues without question.

It's called "affirmative action". I'm sure you've heard of it.


yeah, that thing whites had for hundreds of years in America,, ,,

very

mightymoe's photo
Sun 08/25/13 02:19 PM








We still talking about martin? A jury let him off after hearing all evidence. Not much left to say.


sure not,, except to make big deal over a statement the president makes while relating to the incident,,,


no, it's about a two faced lying president that says its not ok to kill children, while ordering their deaths at the same time...

there's more of that perfect sense...


so no president should speak out about any death,, by your logic

as all presidents reside over a military that sends troops and weapons to other countries which end up with children dying,,,





you keep saying that over and over, and it still doesn't have much to do with what i'm saying...

i'm sorry you cannot/willnot understand the lies and two-faceness from your beloved barry...

if he really cared about kids dying, he would stop the drones... but instead, he orders more more missions and more drones to be made...can you explain why he sends unmanned planes into foreign countries that we are not at war with to kill people?

and isn't that unconstitutional?






same reason we send troops to countries in civil unrest

or swat teams out to homes with dangerous citizens

or weapons to aide other countries that are facing threats from others


,,,'war' and 'drones' are not the only way that American government kills people, including children, and no president has been immune from residing over the government that sanctions those actions,,,

so, like I said, it means NO PRESIDENT Has the right to speak out about any death anywhere,, RIGHT?





again? your arguments are getting weaker when you say the same thing over and over...

and you cannot see the hypocrisy?

we are not at war
we are not the world police
our whole basis of our country is freedom for all, but not for other countries?
your whole argument is based on "other presidents did, so it's ok

try to read it this this time:

NO PRESIDENT IN OFFICE (besides barry) HAS DENOUNCED THE KILLING OF ONE KID WHILE KILLING THOUSANDS IN OTHER COUNTRIES...

i see where your loyalties lie, and it is not with the US in general...

it seems your all for a race war...




WHO CARES..lol

my point is, it doesn't matter if a president spoke about the death of one kid,,,,during a time when kids are killed elsewhere by our governments actions

or if they speak about the death of a CLASSROOM of kids


if the argument is the death by American policy of people ANYWHERE, or children ANYWHERE, makes a president suspect in their ability to care about life ANYWHERE AND EVERYWHERE

than NO PRESIDENT should be speaking up about anyones death, be it one person or a classroom full

I recall a whole presidential CAMPAIGN built around the rape and assault of ONE WOMEN by someone named WILLIE HORTON,,,,

but I guess that doesn't count,,,,that president wasn't speaking about one persons assult,, while overseeing assaults on others elsewhere ,,huh

No,, just the EVIL Obama


whoa




about time you get it...

msharmony's photo
Sun 08/25/13 02:24 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 08/25/13 02:25 PM
its very clear to me

I just must like the self frustration of expecting to get a conversation on certain topics without being met with resistance in certain environments,,,

and the whole 'how damaged your people are' excuses and responses,,


I really do know better, guess its just therapeutic to write it out even if those reading are unwilling to participate other than to further condescend and insult individuals rather than to aknowledge issues that are very real to me and others


soon, I will stay out of the self affirming discussions about all the problems within my race by those who are not,,,,




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mightymoe's photo
Sun 08/25/13 02:39 PM

its very clear to me

I just must like the self frustration of expecting to get a conversation on certain topics without being met with resistance in certain environments,,,

and the whole 'how damaged your people are' excuses and responses,,


I really do know better, guess its just therapeutic to write it out even if those reading are unwilling to participate other than to further condescend and insult individuals rather than to aknowledge issues that are very real to me and others


soon, I will stay out of the self affirming discussions about all the problems within my race by those who are not,,,,




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very nice, eloquent.. but don't blame others when you can't see the forest for the trees... barry is a liar, plain and simple... and you not caring or saying all presidents lie is really just insulting yourself. so, before you start blaming others, maybe you should wake up and smell the coffee...

msharmony's photo
Sun 08/25/13 02:42 PM
yes, by all means, I will adapt to how Im told to believe and speak,,, sir

anything to keep the peace and not be accused of ignorance






pretending someone is exceptionally good or bad or flawed is so much fun,, don't let me interrupt you,,,

soufiehere's photo
Sun 08/25/13 02:44 PM
The Title of this thread has been edited for flaming.
Please keep the inter-personal commentary off the boards.

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andrewzooms's photo
Sun 08/25/13 04:54 PM
I am sure these punks would not even know who fought in WW2.

no photo
Sun 08/25/13 04:57 PM

I am sure these punks would not even know who fought in WW2.


:thumbsup: That man was probably about their age when he enlisted...:cry:

msharmony's photo
Sun 08/25/13 08:04 PM

I am sure these punks would not even know who fought in WW2.



alot of grown ups dont either,, to be honest

but I have ZERO doubt, the justice system will deal with the two responsible for the death,,,

Simonedemidova's photo
Sun 08/25/13 10:08 PM
Edited by Simonedemidova on Sun 08/25/13 10:13 PM




I know dead thug is office topic.

But, in all fairness, while Mr Z was being beat down, he did fire a warning shot.

Too sad the post about the honorable senior has to be polluted and hijacked.


Right is this another trevon conversation or is about a man who fought for our country who headed out to play pool at his local spot and was beat to death by senseless youth, regardless of race


Well, the title of this thread suggests that this thread originated for the purpose of bashing President Obama, which I find to be disgusting.


Why? Its actually just sarcasm because that is what Obama said about Travon Martin. That if he had a son, he would look like Travon.

Obama said that.




This thread isn't about Trevon, it's about the two murderers who killed an innocent man, that's the problem with media, if all we had was radios and it was illegal to discuss the races of all parties involved...then we'd see crimes for what they really were and stop making everything a RACIAL WAR!

IT WILL NEVER END TILL WE LET IT DIE

Lpdon's photo
Sun 08/25/13 10:23 PM
Wonder why Obama isn't our running his trap on this? He loves to open his mouth and step in it on local matters that are none of his business.

Simonedemidova's photo
Sun 08/25/13 10:26 PM
Edited by Simonedemidova on Sun 08/25/13 10:28 PM

Wonder why Obama isn't our running his trap on this? He loves to open his mouth and step in it on local matters that are none of his business.


Well it doesn't effect his lifestyle. ohwell

Lpdon's photo
Sun 08/25/13 10:36 PM


Wonder why Obama isn't our running his trap on this? He loves to open his mouth and step in it on local matters that are none of his business.


Well it doesn't effect his lifestyle. ohwell


Or his extremism!

msharmony's photo
Mon 08/26/13 04:03 AM
theres no outrage

another murder, and people are held accountable,, that's how its SUPPOSED to happen in a murder case,,,,


willing2's photo
Mon 08/26/13 06:32 AM

its very clear to me

I just must like the self frustration of expecting to get a conversation on certain topics without being met with resistance in certain environments,,,

and the whole 'how damaged your people are' excuses and responses,,


I really do know better, guess its just therapeutic to write it out even if those reading are unwilling to participate other than to further condescend and insult individuals rather than to aknowledge issues that are very real to me and others


soon, I will stay out of the self affirming discussions about all the problems within my race by those who are not,,,,




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Well, we all gotta do what we gotta do.
See ya down th road.
I suppose others will be 'round to wish you adieux. laugh laughlaugh

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