ARE YOU SERIOUS? Of course there are minor details that are different but given the way YOU framed the Zimmerman case the main difference here is that this white man did not have a gun, so he died.

Your main description of the Zimmerman case: was an armed adult shot an unarmed black CHILD. Period.

Now I will address your comparisons.

TWO against ONE... means very little. So what? A threat is a threat, one thug or two thugs... (My X husband could lick FIVE grown men (AND HE DID) who were intent on putting some real hurt on him. The FIVE against one meant NOTHING.)

ALSO being a "senior citizen" also means very little. I know some x-military senior citizens who are in very good shape.

With the Zimmerman case, you simplified it down to "armed adult shot unarmed black child."

Not with this case you are nitpicking details that don't matter.

as for this remark, the reason is BECAUSE HE DID NOT HAVE A GUN to protect himself but if you will reread my remark I said:

And Msharmony, would be so upset if he had pulled a gun and shot them both huh?

so... IF he had shot them both it would be Zimmerman case all over again:

"White X-military adult man shoots two black children."

They would of course not prosecute because it was self defense and then there would be protests.

Same case only worse. This time it was TWO helpless black CHILDREN.

or you are ignoring details that do matter

an armed adult, who was known to have been FOLLOWING an unarmed minor,,who caused the death of the unarmed minor

and was permitted to WALK,,,until protests started

try to compare it as much as you like to other crimes with a white victm and you will be hard up to find a case where the black adult perp was close to being permitted to WALK, after being found with the murder weapon at the scene of the crime,,,,,,with one unarmed minor

again, the victim and circumstances make all the difference

this was a senior citizen, NO evidence of him seeking out or stalking the teens, against two teens on camera in a safe location

not a teen lost in a complex in the dark at night against one grown man admittedly following and heard to have harassed and tried to detain the minor with NO EXPLANATION to offset the situation,,,,


there is no similarity except that its an interracial crime,,,,

More fairy tales. Dead thug was lost.

Give these two animals to 4 senior vets.

They'll cry like little girls til they die.

It is a crime all right.

I don't know why you would call it an "interracial crime." Hey a crime is a crime. A THUG IS A THUG. When people's first observation of a crime is the race of the people involved, I call that racist.

You spin your stories like a pro and that's just dishonest.
When will you get it through your head that Zimmerman was on Neighborhood watch patrol and I think he was the kind of person who took that seriously. Also the fact that there had been numerous break-ins in that neighborhood.

He was not "stalking" anyone. You have no idea what "stalking" means.

You should go to work for the news media who dishonestly put a spin on everything they report.

Here is the difference:

Zimmerman was tailing a suspect.

Zimmerman was stalking a child.

Travon was a "suspect" because he looked suspicious because he was loitering in an area where there had been break-ins. He was not walking like he was headed somewhere. He was loitering.

Here is a good question. If the elderly man had pulled a gun and shot both "youths" do you think the media would have jumped all over that?

I think they would have. I think they would have not only been all over it, they would have cast this senior citizen as a "racist" and a vigilante like Bronson in Death Wish.

yea, walking while black... that is a serious crime, TM needed to be shot for that...

spoken like a true racist...

Uh, Martin was shot because he was on top of Zimmerman and beating up Zimmerman.

Martin was age 17. The designation that a 17-year-old human is a minor is an artificial designation based on societal norms, not on physiology. Martin was physically an adult, and had he shot someone while committing a crime, then Martin would have been tried as an adult. Because Martin was physically an adult, Zimmerman didn't know that Martin was still below the age of 18.

True.

he wasn't on watch that night, he was going to the store most likely to get beer,,lol,,, didn't even know the street name where he was

and watch doesn't ask you to FOLLOW ANYONE,,,


I don't have to 'spin' anything because I have been tht teen alone in early morning with some unknown adult following me,, GETTING OUT OF HIS CAR to follow me

it is intimidating no matter his reason, and if his reason was on the up and up, he should have been able to state that so as not to be intimidating or a potential rapist/killer/ to this minor

and should not have placed his hands on the minor after already behaving in an intimidating fashion

the minor had EVERY RIGHT to fight and defend HIMSELF without the stalker being given permission to meke the victims suspicion a reality by shooting him dead...



the only similarity in these crimes is that the race of the victim and killer are not the same,,,,

no kidding?

that difference seems pretty significant from the victim standpoint

the minor was a victim assaulted and killed when he fought back

and the senior citizen was a victim, assaulted and killed without the chance to fight back

,, along with the difference that killer was THERE WITH THE BODY and permitted to walk in the treyvon case

and these minors

were IMMEDIATELY suspected, found, and charged,,, without even having BEEN FOUND AT THE SCENE<,,,or hving any recordings of their feelings toward the victim,,,



NO SIMILARITY BUT THE INTERRACIAL ASPECT

it depends upon if they were both shot while facing him

if someone shoots someone running away,, I think there should be dissent over that type of vigilante justice,, yes,,,,

I don't know what a 'physical' adult is

the LAW confers certain rights upon LEGAL ADULTS, which a (newly) 17 year old is not

the law , fortunately, doesn't use some strange body measurement assessment of who is or is not an adult,,,,,

Zimmerman said t was in his 'late teens',, not '19',, so there is no proof he wasn't aware the boy might be 18 or 17 even,,,,

no matter how hard you try to justify it by nitpicking a year or two in age,, or height of a minor

it doesn't change that T was a minor (legally) and Z was an adult (legally) or that Z is very likely to have realized T was a minor since his description was 'late teen',, and not 'young adult',, or 'around my age',, as he later said in court,,,

yea, whatever... keep telling yourself that when a cop wanna be is following you for no reason...

I know dead thug is office topic.

But, in all fairness, while Mr Z was being beat down, he did fire a warning shot.

Too sad the post about the honorable senior has to be polluted and hijacked.

Wow, where did you get the idea that Zimmerman knew Martin's legal status? From a crystal ball?

The last time that I checked, an 18-year-old person is both an adult and a late teen and a 19-year-old person is both an adult and a late teen.

Anyway, there is no evidence that Zimmerman made physical contact with Martin before Martin struck Zimmerman.