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the outrage about TREYVON martin stemmed from no one being held ACCOUNTABLE for the boys death If you need culpability, look to Martin's parents...Alicia shipped him down to Florida to stay with his daddy cause she could no longer handle him.... |
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We still talking about martin? A jury let him off after hearing all evidence. Not much left to say. sure not,, except to make big deal over a statement the president makes while relating to the incident,,, no, it's about a two faced lying president that says its not ok to kill children, while ordering their deaths at the same time... there's more of that perfect sense... so no president should speak out about any death,, by your logic as all presidents reside over a military that sends troops and weapons to other countries which end up with children dying,,, you keep saying that over and over, and it still doesn't have much to do with what i'm saying... i'm sorry you cannot/willnot understand the lies and two-faceness from your beloved barry... if he really cared about kids dying, he would stop the drones... but instead, he orders more more missions and more drones to be made...can you explain why he sends unmanned planes into foreign countries that we are not at war with to kill people? and isn't that unconstitutional? same reason we send troops to countries in civil unrest or swat teams out to homes with dangerous citizens or weapons to aide other countries that are facing threats from others ,,,'war' and 'drones' are not the only way that American government kills people, including children, and no president has been immune from residing over the government that sanctions those actions,,, so, like I said, it means NO PRESIDENT Has the right to speak out about any death anywhere,, RIGHT? again? your arguments are getting weaker when you say the same thing over and over... and you cannot see the hypocrisy? we are not at war we are not the world police our whole basis of our country is freedom for all, but not for other countries? your whole argument is based on "other presidents did, so it's ok try to read it this this time: NO PRESIDENT IN OFFICE (besides barry) HAS DENOUNCED THE KILLING OF ONE KID WHILE KILLING THOUSANDS IN OTHER COUNTRIES... i see where your loyalties lie, and it is not with the US in general... it seems your all for a race war... |
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The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing" unless there is ANY Risk children might die, and then the preferred action is inaction right?  Answer the question if you can. Do you know of any accurate statistic that proves that our bombing of other countries saves more lives than "doing nothing at all." and the 'outrage' wasn't fake,,from anyone I know someone shot someone,, someone WITH the weapon and AT The scene one with a gun , an adult, instructed NOT TO FOLLOW THE OTHER and one with no gun, a minor, trying to get home in an unfamiliar place at night ,, and the only one standing claims self defense and can WALK,,, many people feel that was bs..... understandably , people who feel its proper to respond to a broken nose with a bullet,, disagree and that's their prerogative,,, Well if some punk thug broke my nose and threatened to kill me, and I had a gun, he would get the bullet. The media was full of tons of hype concerning the "outrage." That's what they look for and seek out. A few spastics who can express their "outrage." Then the media work like artists to incite more and more outrage. Its a vicious ridiculous circle of propaganda and spin. I don't believe a bit of it. All spin for ratings. |
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We still talking about martin? A jury let him off after hearing all evidence. Not much left to say. sure not,, except to make big deal over a statement the president makes while relating to the incident,,, no, it's about a two faced lying president that says its not ok to kill children, while ordering their deaths at the same time... there's more of that perfect sense... so no president should speak out about any death,, by your logic as all presidents reside over a military that sends troops and weapons to other countries which end up with children dying,,, you keep saying that over and over, and it still doesn't have much to do with what i'm saying... i'm sorry you cannot/willnot understand the lies and two-faceness from your beloved barry... if he really cared about kids dying, he would stop the drones... but instead, he orders more more missions and more drones to be made...can you explain why he sends unmanned planes into foreign countries that we are not at war with to kill people? and isn't that unconstitutional? same reason we send troops to countries in civil unrest or swat teams out to homes with dangerous citizens or weapons to aide other countries that are facing threats from others ,,,'war' and 'drones' are not the only way that American government kills people, including children, and no president has been immune from residing over the government that sanctions those actions,,, so, like I said, it means NO PRESIDENT Has the right to speak out about any death anywhere,, RIGHT? again? your arguments are getting weaker when you say the same thing over and over... and you cannot see the hypocrisy? we are not at war we are not the world police our whole basis of our country is freedom for all, but not for other countries? your whole argument is based on "other presidents did, so it's ok try to read it this this time: NO PRESIDENT IN OFFICE (besides barry) HAS DENOUNCED THE KILLING OF ONE KID WHILE KILLING THOUSANDS IN OTHER COUNTRIES... i see where your loyalties lie, and it is not with the US in general... it seems your all for a race war... WHO CARES..lol my point is, it doesn't matter if a president spoke about the death of one kid,,,,during a time when kids are killed elsewhere by our governments actions or if they speak about the death of a CLASSROOM of kids if the argument is the death by American policy of people ANYWHERE, or children ANYWHERE, makes a president suspect in their ability to care about life ANYWHERE AND EVERYWHERE than NO PRESIDENT should be speaking up about anyones death, be it one person or a classroom full I recall a whole presidential CAMPAIGN built around the rape and assault of ONE WOMEN by someone named WILLIE HORTON,,,, but I guess that doesn't count,,,,that president wasn't speaking about one persons assult,, while overseeing assaults on others elsewhere ,,huh No,, just the EVIL Obama 
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the outrage about TREYVON martin stemmed from no one being held ACCOUNTABLE for the boys death If you need culpability, look to Martin's parents...Alicia shipped him down to Florida to stay with his daddy cause she could no longer handle him.... so what? parents sharing custody of a child makes them responsible for an adults actions that cause the childs death? since when? |
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The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing" unless there is ANY Risk children might die, and then the preferred action is inaction right? Answer the question if you can. Do you know of any accurate statistic that proves that our bombing of other countries saves more lives than "doing nothing at all." and the 'outrage' wasn't fake,,from anyone I know someone shot someone,, someone WITH the weapon and AT The scene one with a gun , an adult, instructed NOT TO FOLLOW THE OTHER and one with no gun, a minor, trying to get home in an unfamiliar place at night ,, and the only one standing claims self defense and can WALK,,, many people feel that was bs..... understandably , people who feel its proper to respond to a broken nose with a bullet,, disagree and that's their prerogative,,, Well if some punk thug broke my nose and threatened to kill me, and I had a gun, he would get the bullet. The media was full of tons of hype concerning the "outrage." That's what they look for and seek out. A few spastics who can express their "outrage." Then the media work like artists to incite more and more outrage. Its a vicious ridiculous circle of propaganda and spin. I don't believe a bit of it. All spin for ratings. yeah, well,,, more power to all of us,,we would do what we would do if some WEIRDO followed me in their car and then on foot before confronting me as if I was a criminal and putting their hands on me,,, I might do more than break their nose,, even if I would later be labeled a 'punk' for doing so,, even if that defense ended up being justification for the weirdo to kill me,,,, |
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The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing" unless there is ANY Risk children might die, and then the preferred action is inaction right? Answer the question if you can. Do you know of any accurate statistic that proves that our bombing of other countries saves more lives than "doing nothing at all." and the 'outrage' wasn't fake,,from anyone I know someone shot someone,, someone WITH the weapon and AT The scene one with a gun , an adult, instructed NOT TO FOLLOW THE OTHER and one with no gun, a minor, trying to get home in an unfamiliar place at night ,, and the only one standing claims self defense and can WALK,,, many people feel that was bs..... understandably , people who feel its proper to respond to a broken nose with a bullet,, disagree and that's their prerogative,,, Well if some punk thug broke my nose and threatened to kill me, and I had a gun, he would get the bullet. The media was full of tons of hype concerning the "outrage." That's what they look for and seek out. A few spastics who can express their "outrage." Then the media work like artists to incite more and more outrage. Its a vicious ridiculous circle of propaganda and spin. I don't believe a bit of it. All spin for ratings. yeah, well,,, more power to all of us,,we would do what we would do if some WEIRDO followed me in their car and then on foot before confronting me as if I was a criminal and putting their hands on me,,, I might do more than break their nose,, even if I would later be labeled a 'punk' for doing so,, even if that defense ended up being justification for the weirdo to kill me,,,, I doubt it. You would run like a scared rabbit. |
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Edited by
Leigh2154
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Sun 08/25/13 01:13 PM
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the outrage about TREYVON martin stemmed from no one being held ACCOUNTABLE for the boys death If you need culpability, look to Martin's parents...Alicia shipped him down to Florida to stay with his daddy cause she could no longer handle him.... so what? parents sharing custody of a child makes them responsible for an adults actions that cause the childs death? since when? So what?...So she wouldn't have to take the heat when he managed to off somebody or get offed....Marty should have kept a closer eye on "his" kid.... |
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Mr Z didn't shoot to kill.
It was just a warning shot that got lucky. |
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The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing" unless there is ANY Risk children might die, and then the preferred action is inaction right? Answer the question if you can. Do you know of any accurate statistic that proves that our bombing of other countries saves more lives than "doing nothing at all." and the 'outrage' wasn't fake,,from anyone I know someone shot someone,, someone WITH the weapon and AT The scene one with a gun , an adult, instructed NOT TO FOLLOW THE OTHER and one with no gun, a minor, trying to get home in an unfamiliar place at night ,, and the only one standing claims self defense and can WALK,,, many people feel that was bs..... understandably , people who feel its proper to respond to a broken nose with a bullet,, disagree and that's their prerogative,,, Well if some punk thug broke my nose and threatened to kill me, and I had a gun, he would get the bullet. The media was full of tons of hype concerning the "outrage." That's what they look for and seek out. A few spastics who can express their "outrage." Then the media work like artists to incite more and more outrage. Its a vicious ridiculous circle of propaganda and spin. I don't believe a bit of it. All spin for ratings. yeah, well,,, more power to all of us,,we would do what we would do if some WEIRDO followed me in their car and then on foot before confronting me as if I was a criminal and putting their hands on me,,, I might do more than break their nose,, even if I would later be labeled a 'punk' for doing so,, even if that defense ended up being justification for the weirdo to kill me,,,, I doubt it. You would run like a scared rabbit. haaaa,,, doubt all you want,, but if you could ask the creep that went to prison for attempted sexual assault after trying to accost me in the park when I was 19 if you asked him how surprised he was after he watched me from his car and then followed me alone into the park and grabbed me that I fought instead of ran,,and whether he came back with a nub your doubts would be quickly dissipated,,, |
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the outrage about TREYVON martin stemmed from no one being held ACCOUNTABLE for the boys death If you need culpability, look to Martin's parents...Alicia shipped him down to Florida to stay with his daddy cause she could no longer handle him.... so what? parents sharing custody of a child makes them responsible for an adults actions that cause the childs death? since when? So what?...So she wouldn't have to take the heat when he managed to off somebody or get offed....Marty should have kept a closer eye on "his" kid.... sure, if ya think a 16 year old being permitted to go to store on his own shows some type of parental lacking,, than by all means, lets crucify those who allowed it,,, |
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Apparently, nobody taught the little basterd not to assault a man wif a gun.
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Apparently, nobody taught the little basterd not to assault a man wif a gun. yeah, no one taught me not to fight back either,,,, gladly, saved my life sadly , cost him his,,, |
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the outrage about TREYVON martin stemmed from no one being held ACCOUNTABLE for the boys death If you need culpability, look to Martin's parents...Alicia shipped him down to Florida to stay with his daddy cause she could no longer handle him.... so what? parents sharing custody of a child makes them responsible for an adults actions that cause the childs death? since when? So what?...So she wouldn't have to take the heat when he managed to off somebody or get offed....Marty should have kept a closer eye on "his" kid.... sure, if ya think a 16 year old being permitted to go to store on his own shows some type of parental lacking,, than by all means, lets crucify those who allowed it,,, In view of Trayvon's history, yeah I do...In the rain, late at night, in Florida where things were a lot different than the "hood" he came from, yeah, I do...and he was 17, not 16....His parents failed him...Both of them... |
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the outrage about TREYVON martin stemmed from no one being held ACCOUNTABLE for the boys death If you need culpability, look to Martin's parents...Alicia shipped him down to Florida to stay with his daddy cause she could no longer handle him.... so what? parents sharing custody of a child makes them responsible for an adults actions that cause the childs death? since when? So what?...So she wouldn't have to take the heat when he managed to off somebody or get offed....Marty should have kept a closer eye on "his" kid.... sure, if ya think a 16 year old being permitted to go to store on his own shows some type of parental lacking,, than by all means, lets crucify those who allowed it,,, In view of Trayvon's history, yeah I do...In the rain, late at night, in Florida where things were a lot different than the "hood" he came from, yeah, I do...and he was 17, not 16....His parents failed him...Both of them... yep, and considering zimmermns 'history',, neighborhood watch failed Treyvon, a visitor to a resident there allowing him to be neighborhood watch captain AND recommending he carry a gun IN SPITE of having (in his ADULT YEARS) had a restraining order against him for alleged assault and having to take (anger management courses?) for putting his hands on a cop and being let go from a job for literally throwing a woman out of a party,,,, guess there are enough crucifixes to go around in the blame game but none of it brings back the 17 year old, whose killer has NO REMORSE over his death and would not change a thing if he could,,,, |
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There was a lot of talk on the news this weekend, mostly about the killing of the Australian and it's connections to other American crimes of note. The comment by Obama was brought up and discussed as pure racism or just a ploy to pander to his constituents. Comment seems divided, but as the discussion progress, the topic of blacks in America got more focused.
The "hand up" the US government has been giving to blacks doesn't seem to have done any good and, in fact, may be keeping them down. The US spends more money on schools than anyone in the world but you can't help a black child who is not in school or does nothing but be disruptive when he is in it. The US approach to education to "teach to the lowest denominator" seems to have lowered the overall standard to one of the lowest in the western world. This policy hurts all children of all races. The sub-culture of worship of rappers who preach drugs, anti-authority, and violence seems to have taken over largely due to a teen unwed birth rate that boggles the mind and is becoming the new standard of black identity. Juan Williams made the conclusion that (paraphrased) "Maybe it is time for blacks to stand up as individuals and take responsibility for their actions." Blaming the system doesn't fly anymore. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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what 'hand up' did government give 'blacks' exclusively
Im curious.... and what of white kids who are disruptive or rock music that exalts sexism and amoral behavior how are these 'black' issues somehow? |
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the outrage about TREYVON martin stemmed from no one being held ACCOUNTABLE for the boys death If you need culpability, look to Martin's parents...Alicia shipped him down to Florida to stay with his daddy cause she could no longer handle him.... so what? parents sharing custody of a child makes them responsible for an adults actions that cause the childs death? since when? So what?...So she wouldn't have to take the heat when he managed to off somebody or get offed....Marty should have kept a closer eye on "his" kid.... sure, if ya think a 16 year old being permitted to go to store on his own shows some type of parental lacking,, than by all means, lets crucify those who allowed it,,, In view of Trayvon's history, yeah I do...In the rain, late at night, in Florida where things were a lot different than the "hood" he came from, yeah, I do...and he was 17, not 16....His parents failed him...Both of them... yep, and considering zimmermns 'history',, neighborhood watch failed Treyvon, a visitor to a resident there allowing him to be neighborhood watch captain AND recommending he carry a gun IN SPITE of having (in his ADULT YEARS) had a restraining order against him for alleged assault and having to take (anger management courses?) for putting his hands on a cop and being let go from a job for literally throwing a woman out of a party,,,, All the more reason Marty should have "taken" his son to the store to get his "ingredients" that night.... |
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the outrage about TREYVON martin stemmed from no one being held ACCOUNTABLE for the boys death If you need culpability, look to Martin's parents...Alicia shipped him down to Florida to stay with his daddy cause she could no longer handle him.... And apparently his daddy couldn't handle him either! |
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Edited by
msharmony
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the outrage about TREYVON martin stemmed from no one being held ACCOUNTABLE for the boys death If you need culpability, look to Martin's parents...Alicia shipped him down to Florida to stay with his daddy cause she could no longer handle him.... so what? parents sharing custody of a child makes them responsible for an adults actions that cause the childs death? since when? So what?...So she wouldn't have to take the heat when he managed to off somebody or get offed....Marty should have kept a closer eye on "his" kid.... sure, if ya think a 16 year old being permitted to go to store on his own shows some type of parental lacking,, than by all means, lets crucify those who allowed it,,, In view of Trayvon's history, yeah I do...In the rain, late at night, in Florida where things were a lot different than the "hood" he came from, yeah, I do...and he was 17, not 16....His parents failed him...Both of them... yep, and considering zimmermns 'history',, neighborhood watch failed Treyvon, a visitor to a resident there allowing him to be neighborhood watch captain AND recommending he carry a gun IN SPITE of having (in his ADULT YEARS) had a restraining order against him for alleged assault and having to take (anger management courses?) for putting his hands on a cop and being let go from a job for literally throwing a woman out of a party,,,, All the more reason Marty should have "taken" his son to the store to get his "ingredients" that night.... perception is a wonderful thing everybody has one the 'ingredients' that any child going to a store may be getting as long as they have candy and a sweet drink are somehow suspect to validate this minors death and I don't know any 16 year olds whose parents walk them to the store,, whatever trouble they may have been in zimmermans certainly didn't,,,and we see the trouble he has gotten into AS AN ADULT before that night ever happened we don't all want to raise paranoid children by following them around into their teen years but its sad that its come to a point where that seems like the REASONABLE option to avoid someone being shot,,,, we used to hold grown ups to higher standards than minors,, (whatever their height) but I guess times are changing , and not all for the better |
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