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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Msharmony, gay people are humans just like you and me. There are many more out there than you can even imagine, (and you have a wild imagination.)
Whether you like it or not. They need homes too. They need jobs. They need to be loved just like everyone else. Jesus never got married. Perhaps he was gay. I think you need to relax and accept people as they are. Not for them, but for your own peace of mind. |
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Also, Msharmony.
When racial equal rights acts passed, a lot of white folks had the same kind of concern (that you have towards gays) about renting homes in their neighborhood to black folks. They need homes, they need jobs. They need to be loved and accepted into society too. We are all humans after all. What people don't understand is that a gay person is born that way. |
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And the fight against gay marriage has already gotten underway. A week after the supreme court decision, I am getting automated phone calls asking for my financial support to campaign against the gay marriage movement.
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I don't think you are understanding yes, I understand, homosexuals aren't made to 'pursue' heterosexual love they are perfectly free ALREADY to 'pursue' homosexual love ,,its not about them being able to fall in love with each other its about forcing SOCIETY to support and encourage their choice to have homosexual RELATIONS<,,, No, misharmony, its not. No one is "forcing" society to accept it. You don't accept it. Even IF they passed a law that you have to accept it, you could never accept it. Nobody is "forcing" you to accept anything. All the Supreme court has done is to honor and support the States rights to allow benefits to same sex couples who got married legally after that state legalized same sex marriage. This is actually a good thing. This shows that the Federal government is not insisting on trying to take over and rule all of the individual states against their will. The Federal government has said that IT IS UP TO THE STATES. They have said that if your state legalizes gay marriage, they will abide by that law and allow same sex couples who are legally married the same rights as other marriages. This country, and this world is all about honoring contracts. This battle will now continue but it will be on the STATE level. thank you for pointing that out, I do understand it is a state issue but it is indeed a forced culture if most do not approve of it but the law decides it will be treated as if it is approved of,,, If I open a home for couples, or families. I would be FORCED to also include those engaged in the homosexual lifestyle,, that's being FORCED to accept behaviors of others,,, Are you saying then, if you were renting homes, you would discriminate against a gay couple? Why are you obsessed with what they are doing in the privacy of their home? How does that hurt you? How do you imagine it will hurt the neighborhood? Do you think they will throw wild sex parties and attempt to convert your children into their "lifestyle?" What do you imagine their lifestyle consists of? I think you have a very wild imagination and a skewed opinion of gays. I am saying, if I wanted to address a certain social issue, like fatherless or motherless homes I would want to be able to be exclusive enough to help families who were trying to provide both a mother and father or mother and father figures for their children.... |
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Edited by
Toodygirl5
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Mon 07/01/13 12:37 PM
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any examples of the said 'case history' which proves it doesn't hurt anyone? Can you show instances where same sex marriage is harming people? since when is it not harmful to go against nature? I heard that! I agree. |
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any examples of the said 'case history' which proves it doesn't hurt anyone? Can you show instances where same sex marriage is harming people? since when is it not harmful to go against nature? Homosexuality is actually in nature. Doesn't matter whether you agree with it or deny it. It's still there.  Homosexuality is in the Animal nature. |
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Msharmony, gay people are humans just like you and me. There are many more out there than you can even imagine, (and you have a wild imagination.) Whether you like it or not. They need homes too. They need jobs. They need to be loved just like everyone else. Jesus never got married. Perhaps he was gay. I think you need to relax and accept people as they are. Not for them, but for your own peace of mind. what has my stance on marriage have to do with whether people of any particular 'preference' have a home, or can find employment, or can love like everyone else? nothing I accept PEOPLE , but I don't believe in such a thing as 'what' we are, as if its some absolute written in stone,,, I accept people will be imperfect and make bad choices, and I feel the right in discussions specifically about choices and behaviors. to have an opinion about those topics,,, |
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Also, Msharmony. When racial equal rights acts passed, a lot of white folks had the same kind of concern (that you have towards gays) about renting homes in their neighborhood to black folks. They need homes, they need jobs. They need to be loved and accepted into society too. We are all humans after all. What people don't understand is that a gay person is born that way. Id say what people will debate is whether people are 'born that way' it isn't a matter of understanding that they are, because no such t hing has been proven for us to 'understand' |
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If gayness is so common how come a male dog will snap at another if it tries to hump him????? because they are trying to justify their position with silliness... So, Some animals do not even mate that way. |
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any examples of the said 'case history' which proves it doesn't hurt anyone? Can you show instances where same sex marriage is harming people? since when is it not harmful to go against nature? Homosexuality is actually in nature. Doesn't matter whether you agree with it or deny it. It's still there. Homosexuality is in the Animal nature. It's in nature all together. Sorry to burst your bubble. Not really. 
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Keep the name calling off the forums. If you can not respond in a civil manner then move on.
I will be deleting several post..... Site Mod Kristi |
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Why do some anti-gay people only point out the PHYSICAL aspects of it? That only shows me where their one-track mind is at.
 . Just because someone has reproductive organs, it doesn't mean they will be able to have children. Some are infertile, which makes the whole reproductive aspect useless.
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any examples of the said 'case history' which proves it doesn't hurt anyone? Can you show instances where same sex marriage is harming people? since when is it not harmful to go against nature? Homosexuality is actually in nature. Doesn't matter whether you agree with it or deny it. It's still there. Homosexuality is in the Animal nature. It's in nature all together. Sorry to burst your bubble. Not really. No, It is Unnatural in human nature! |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Mon 07/01/13 02:51 PM
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Also, Msharmony. When racial equal rights acts passed, a lot of white folks had the same kind of concern (that you have towards gays) about renting homes in their neighborhood to black folks. They need homes, they need jobs. They need to be loved and accepted into society too. We are all humans after all. What people don't understand is that a gay person is born that way. Id say what people will debate is whether people are 'born that way' it isn't a matter of understanding that they are, because no such t hing has been proven for us to 'understand' Seriously? You think it has not been proven from evidence? You need to look again. Did you 'choose' to be attracted to men instead of women? If, for some reason you decided you did not like men and you wanted to change, could you choose to be gay? But that is where the problem lies. People who believe it is a choice. People who believe that people can choose not to be gay. what has my stance on marriage have to do with whether people of any particular 'preference' have a home, or can find employment, or can love like everyone else? Okay, you asked. Your fear is that because the Federal government decided to extend benefits to legally married gay couples that now you will be "forced" to include (or accept into your neighborhood) "those engaged in homosexual lifestyle" (gays) if you were to open a home for couples or families. You would rather feel that you can say NO to gay couples. In other words, if you were a landlord, you believe you will be forced to rent to gay couples. Your words: "If I open a home for couples, or families. I would be FORCED to also include those engaged in the homosexual lifestyle,, that's being FORCED to accept behaviors of others,,, " IF if if if if... fears fears fears fears. This is so absurd. Relax people geeeze. You can still be prejudice against gays and sinners all you want. Nobody is going to force you to understand or accept them. You can keep on being afraid, condemning others, and hating gays all you want. Laws can't stop prejudice. Blacks of all people should know that. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Mon 07/01/13 04:47 PM
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Also, Msharmony. When racial equal rights acts passed, a lot of white folks had the same kind of concern (that you have towards gays) about renting homes in their neighborhood to black folks. They need homes, they need jobs. They need to be loved and accepted into society too. We are all humans after all. What people don't understand is that a gay person is born that way. Id say what people will debate is whether people are 'born that way' it isn't a matter of understanding that they are, because no such t hing has been proven for us to 'understand' Seriously? You think it has not been proven from evidence? You need to look again. Did you 'choose' to be attracted to men instead of women? If, for some reason you decided you did not like men and you wanted to change, could you choose to be gay? But that is where the problem lies. People who believe it is a choice. People who believe that people can choose not to be gay. what has my stance on marriage have to do with whether people of any particular 'preference' have a home, or can find employment, or can love like everyone else? Okay, you asked. Your fear is that because the Federal government decided to extend benefits to legally married gay couples that now you will be "forced" to include (or accept into your neighborhood) "those engaged in homosexual lifestyle" (gays) if you were to open a home for couples or families. You would rather feel that you can say NO to gay couples. In other words, if you were a landlord, you believe you will be forced to rent to gay couples. Your words: "If I open a home for couples, or families. I would be FORCED to also include those engaged in the homosexual lifestyle,, that's being FORCED to accept behaviors of others,,, " IF if if if if... fears fears fears fears. This is so absurd. Relax people geeeze. You can still be prejudice against gays and sinners all you want. Nobody is going to force you to understand or accept them. You can keep on being afraid, condemning others, and hating gays all you want. Laws can't stop prejudice. Blacks of all people should know that. no it hasn't been proven that people are 'born' that way people assume it for reasons like 'why would they choose it?' that's not proof that they don't and not all choices start with one moment or one day on a calendar, we come to choices and preferences most often through a series of experiences and events in our lives and my being BLACK isn't an activity, so its irrelevant to the discussion my being BLACK is what someone else decide when they look at me, regardless of anything I do my being 'black' was written and documented the moment I Was born my sexual 'preference is something I get to profess to others ,,,,there is no comparison as to the rest, I have many concerns that I have posted which pertain to the CULTURE And the SOCIETY in the long run,, my example of being 'forced' had to do with the question asked to give a specific example,,,, |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Mon 07/01/13 05:09 PM
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Msharmony, what they call 'gender confusion' is something most people are born with.
There are even many children born with both male and female sex organs. Many of these "decisions" were made by surgeons when a child was both male and female at birth. They are not "gay" but transgender, but with the help of a surgeon, they are suddenly either male or female. Lets hope the surgeon made the right choice. Better yet, they should leave it alone, and let the child 'decide' what sex they are. You need to get to know some of these actual people and cases and educate yourself on all of this. When a toddler who is a boy, thinks he is a girl .... even before they know anything about sex, this is no "lifestyle decision." People don't chose what gender they are attracted to any more than they choose what gender they are born. You might want to to get this false assumption out of your head or you will be thought of as prejudice against gays, which I believe you are. You judge them as "sinners" you think they chose to be this way, and you don't want to rent a house to them. It is clear to me that you have passed judgement. I blame religion and the Bible for putting these ideas into people's heads. The Bible is a book that promotes prejudice and hatred. and not all choices start with one moment or one day on a calendar, we come to choices and preferences most often through a series of experiences and events in our lives I have yet to hear from any gay person who can explain the reasons or why they "chose" to be gay. |
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Msharmony, what they call 'gender confusion' is something most people are born with. There are even many children born with both male and female sex organs. Many of these "decisions" were made by surgeons when a child was both male and female at birth. They are not "gay" but transgender, but with the help of a surgeon, they are suddenly either male or female. Lets hope the surgeon made the right choice. Better yet, they should leave it alone, and let the child 'decide' what sex they are. You need to get to know some of these actual people and cases and educate yourself on all of this. When a toddler who is a boy, thinks he is a girl .... even before they know anything about sex, this is no "lifestyle decision." People don't chose what gender they are attracted to any more than they choose what gender they are born. You might want to to get this false assumption out of your head or you will be thought of as prejudice against gays, which I believe you are. You judge them as "sinners" you think they chose to be this way, and you don't want to rent a house to them. It is clear to me that you have passed judgement. I blame religion and the Bible for putting these ideas into people's heads. The Bible is a book that promotes prejudice and hatred. and not all choices start with one moment or one day on a calendar, we come to choices and preferences most often through a series of experiences and events in our lives I have yet to hear from any gay person who can explain the reasons or why they "chose" to be gay. People don't chose what gender they are attracted to any more than they choose what gender they are born. You might want to to get this false assumption out of your head or you will be thought of as prejudice against gays, which I believe you are. Im already thought of prejudice against gays, by people that cant separate people from peoples BEHAVIORS that's their confusion,,,, but ACTIONS are still choices and to some extent so are feelings,,,, and what I said previously was not that I wouldn't rent to gay couples,,,I ALREADY ACCEPT THAT WONDEFUL PEOPLE CAN STILL CHOOSE THAT LIFESTYLE I don't treat people any differently based upon their sexual preference, because I concern myself with CHARACTER however, IF I SPECIFICALLY WANT TO HELP ADDRESS MOTHERLESS AND FATHERLESS HOMES being forced to accept into such a community couples which choose to raise children either motherless or fatherless makes it impossible for me to take such issue in support of THAT SOCIAL PROBLEM (and children without mothers and children without fathers is a PROVEN social problem, in terms of the harm it can do to children) |
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The bottom line is People are who they are. Get over it and get out of the way of progress.
They are human beings and every human being should be treated with respect and dignity. Stop thinking you have a right to judge anyone or that you are better than anyone. God loves everyone. |
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The bottom line is People are who they are. Get over it and get out of the way of progress. They are human beings and every human being should be treated with respect and dignity. Stop thinking you have a right to judge anyone or that you are better than anyone. God loves everyone. yes he does, and I do too, enough to not be too scared or socially stigmatized to speak up when people are doing harmful or wrong things,,,,,, I believe homosexual behavior is against natural design for HUMANS and I believe also there is evidence in our culture of its negative long term affects so I will continue to fight against making this behavior on 'equal' ground with the life creating behavior of heterosexual relations |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Mon 07/01/13 05:49 PM
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Im already thought of prejudice against gays, by people that cant separate people from peoples BEHAVIORS Being gay is not a "behavior." Gender confusion is not a "behavior." Anyway, most of these "behaviors" are done IN PRIVATE AWAY FROM YOUR SENSITIVE EYES. Besides, other people's sexual "behaviors" is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS is it? (Even heterosexuals do not have sex out in the public park.) So why not just stop focusing on what is none of your business? It is as if you are obsessed with other people's sexual behaviors. I don't treat people any differently based upon their sexual preference, because I concern myself with CHARACTER however, IF I SPECIFICALLY WANT TO HELP ADDRESS MOTHERLESS AND FATHERLESS HOMES Is that really your issue? If it is, then you have a lot of work to do, (just with heterosexual couples) and you should focus on that instead of homosexuals who want to be legally married, (which you apparently feel will disrupt all of society.) being forced to accept into such a community couples which choose to raise children either motherless or fatherless makes it impossible for me to take such issue in support of THAT SOCIAL PROBLEM (and children without mothers and children without fathers is a PROVEN social problem, in terms of the harm it can do to children) Proven? NO, its not proven. And again YOU ARE NOT BEING FORCED TO ACCEPT ANYTHING. |
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