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So, throw out the Sodomy Laws and embrace homosexuality? 
Yes, why the hell are we letting a god damn RELIGION dictate people's behaviors for? Give me one good ****ing reason?! It has NO PLACE in lawmaking, NONE! Because that is what our morals are built upon centuries ago. maybe no place in lawmaking but based upon a man and a woman procure the next generation. I'm so sorry that you can't understand it. It is the law of nature. Laws on sodomy are laws on the books. Butt sex is illegal. Is this a relevant law today? Of course not. i guess if your moral standard is lowered, then yes... |
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who's taking away who's rights? no matter how this gay marriage thing goes, someones rights are getting trampled on.. i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for... What rights are getting trampled if gay marriage is legalized? another dumb question... can you not read? it is answered in the SAME POST!!!! Where has your right to live in this country been taken away? No one is forcing you to be gay, have a gay marriage, associate with gay people and so on. And why do you believe nothing is worth voting for anymore? i never said that... your confused... put your glasses on and reread what i posted... i said: i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for... it means i will always vote no on it, not not vote ... if your fine with living in a society with no morals, then vote the way you want... Whose morals? Yours? Who do you believe should decide on the morals we should all be living by? why are you arguing? my morals are my morals, if don't like them, then go bug someone else.. i'm tired of you people trying to tell me how to think, all you democrats do is say how right and just you are, and everyone else is wrong... this country survived for 300 years without losing their moral sense, and people like you want to through it all out the window over a stupid thing like gay marriage, just another drain on our sinking ship we call America... Well, you said you want to be able to live in a country that has morals. Clearly, you have an idea of whose morals you want to live by. So, whose morals do you believe this country should live by? This shouldn't be a tough question. your right, it's not a tough answer... the ones that are in place are fine with me... You're still dancing around answering the question. If there were specific morals in place for this country, everyone would think the same. So, which morals do you want this country to live by? Who gets to decide what morals to put in place for everyone? |
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Edited by
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Wed 03/27/13 08:33 PM
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So, throw out the Sodomy Laws and embrace homosexuality?
Yes, why the hell are we letting a god damn RELIGION dictate people's behaviors for? Give me one good ****ing reason?! It has NO PLACE in lawmaking, NONE! Because that is what our morals are built upon centuries ago. maybe no place in lawmaking but based upon a man and a woman procure the next generation. I'm so sorry that you can't understand it. It is the law of nature. Laws on sodomy are laws on the books. Butt sex is illegal. Is this a relevant law today? Of course not. i guess if your moral standard is lowered, then yes... You believe that if someone engaged in anal sex, their moral standard is lowered? Why? And again, whose standard are we going by? |
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So, throw out the Sodomy Laws and embrace homosexuality?
Yes, why the hell are we letting a god damn RELIGION dictate people's behaviors for? Give me one good ****ing reason?! It has NO PLACE in lawmaking, NONE! Because that is what our morals are built upon centuries ago. maybe no place in lawmaking but based upon a man and a woman procure the next generation. I'm so sorry that you can't understand it. It is the law of nature. Laws on sodomy are laws on the books. Butt sex is illegal. Is this a relevant law today? Of course not. i guess if your moral standard is lowered, then yes... You believe that if someone engaged in anal sex, their moral standard is lowered? Why? And again, whose standard are we going by? ummm.. mine... 
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So, throw out the Sodomy Laws and embrace homosexuality?
Yes, why the hell are we letting a god damn RELIGION dictate people's behaviors for? Give me one good ****ing reason?! It has NO PLACE in lawmaking, NONE! Because that is what our morals are built upon centuries ago. maybe no place in lawmaking but based upon a man and a woman procure the next generation. I'm so sorry that you can't understand it. It is the law of nature. Laws on sodomy are laws on the books. Butt sex is illegal. Is this a relevant law today? Of course not. i guess if your moral standard is lowered, then yes... You believe that if someone engaged in anal sex, their moral standard is lowered? Why? And again, whose standard are we going by? well if uncleanliness is immoral,, but thats a whole other discussion,,lol |
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who's taking away who's rights? no matter how this gay marriage thing goes, someones rights are getting trampled on.. i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for... What rights are getting trampled if gay marriage is legalized? another dumb question... can you not read? it is answered in the SAME POST!!!! Where has your right to live in this country been taken away? No one is forcing you to be gay, have a gay marriage, associate with gay people and so on. And why do you believe nothing is worth voting for anymore? i never said that... your confused... put your glasses on and reread what i posted... i said: i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for... it means i will always vote no on it, not not vote ... if your fine with living in a society with no morals, then vote the way you want... Whose morals? Yours? Who do you believe should decide on the morals we should all be living by? why are you arguing? my morals are my morals, if don't like them, then go bug someone else.. i'm tired of you people trying to tell me how to think, all you democrats do is say how right and just you are, and everyone else is wrong... this country survived for 300 years without losing their moral sense, and people like you want to through it all out the window over a stupid thing like gay marriage, just another drain on our sinking ship we call America... Well, you said you want to be able to live in a country that has morals. Clearly, you have an idea of whose morals you want to live by. So, whose morals do you believe this country should live by? This shouldn't be a tough question. your right, it's not a tough answer... the ones that are in place are fine with me... You're still dancing around answering the question. If there were specific morals in place for this country, everyone would think the same. So, which morals do you want this country to live by? Who gets to decide what morals to put in place for everyone?  i don't understand why you don't understand my answer...
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i don't understand why you don't understand my answer...
You're refusing to clearly answer the question for some reason. I don't understand why. |
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i don't understand why you don't understand my answer...
You're refusing to clearly answer the question for some reason. I don't understand why. me either...
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Edited by
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Wed 03/27/13 08:56 PM
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So, throw out the Sodomy Laws and embrace homosexuality?
Yes, why the hell are we letting a god damn RELIGION dictate people's behaviors for? Give me one good ****ing reason?! It has NO PLACE in lawmaking, NONE! Because that is what our morals are built upon centuries ago. maybe no place in lawmaking but based upon a man and a woman procure the next generation. I'm so sorry that you can't understand it. It is the law of nature. Laws on sodomy are laws on the books. Butt sex is illegal. Is this a relevant law today? Of course not. i guess if your moral standard is lowered, then yes... You believe that if someone engaged in anal sex, their moral standard is lowered? Why? And again, whose standard are we going by? ummm.. mine...
and who made you king over everyone? oh that's right NO ONE DID! if you don't like "butt sex" fine DON'T DO IT, but let others engage if that's what works for them. It's not your business now and never was. |
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Edited by
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Wed 03/27/13 08:58 PM
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who's taking away who's rights? no matter how this gay marriage thing goes, someones rights are getting trampled on.. i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for... What rights are getting trampled if gay marriage is legalized? another dumb question... can you not read? it is answered in the SAME POST!!!! Where has your right to live in this country been taken away? No one is forcing you to be gay, have a gay marriage, associate with gay people and so on. And why do you believe nothing is worth voting for anymore? i never said that... your confused... put your glasses on and reread what i posted... i said: i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for... it means i will always vote no on it, not not vote ... if your fine with living in a society with no morals, then vote the way you want... Whose morals? Yours? Who do you believe should decide on the morals we should all be living by? why are you arguing? my morals are my morals, if don't like them, then go bug someone else.. i'm tired of you people trying to tell me how to think, all you democrats do is say how right and just you are, and everyone else is wrong... this country survived for 300 years without losing their moral sense, and people like you want to through it all out the window over a stupid thing like gay marriage, just another drain on our sinking ship we call America... Well, you said you want to be able to live in a country that has morals. Clearly, you have an idea of whose morals you want to live by. So, whose morals do you believe this country should live by? This shouldn't be a tough question. your right, it's not a tough answer... the ones that are in place are fine with me... Keyword YOU, as in YOU YOURSELF ALONE......why should everyone else be forced to bow down to your wishes??? Are we free or are we not? |
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who's taking away who's rights? no matter how this gay marriage thing goes, someones rights are getting trampled on.. i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for... What rights are getting trampled if gay marriage is legalized? another dumb question... can you not read? it is answered in the SAME POST!!!! Where has your right to live in this country been taken away? No one is forcing you to be gay, have a gay marriage, associate with gay people and so on. And why do you believe nothing is worth voting for anymore? i never said that... your confused... put your glasses on and reread what i posted... i said: i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for... it means i will always vote no on it, not not vote ... if your fine with living in a society with no morals, then vote the way you want... Whose morals? Yours? Who do you believe should decide on the morals we should all be living by? why are you arguing? my morals are my morals, if don't like them, then go bug someone else.. i'm tired of you people trying to tell me how to think, all you democrats do is say how right and just you are, and everyone else is wrong... this country survived for 300 years without losing their moral sense, and people like you want to through it all out the window over a stupid thing like gay marriage, just another drain on our sinking ship we call America... Well, you said you want to be able to live in a country that has morals. Clearly, you have an idea of whose morals you want to live by. So, whose morals do you believe this country should live by? This shouldn't be a tough question. your right, it's not a tough answer... the ones that are in place are fine with me... Keyword YOU, as in YOU YOURSELF ALONE......why should everyone else be forced to bow down to your wishes??? Are we free or are we not? NOT the roads we drive on dont erect by themself, taxes pay for them the schools our children go to and the teachers who instruct them dont do it for free, taxes pay for them the security we have isnt armed with natural products that grow from trees,, their training and supplies take money any number of the things that we are able to ENJOY every day are only available because of the MONEY contributed by taxpayers to provide them so no, we are not FREE, from some type of responsibility to the communities and society in which we live,, and not just responsibility for 'ourself' |
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Edited by
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who's taking away who's rights? no matter how this gay marriage thing goes, someones rights are getting trampled on.. i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for... What rights are getting trampled if gay marriage is legalized? another dumb question... can you not read? it is answered in the SAME POST!!!! Where has your right to live in this country been taken away? No one is forcing you to be gay, have a gay marriage, associate with gay people and so on. And why do you believe nothing is worth voting for anymore? i never said that... your confused... put your glasses on and reread what i posted... i said: i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for... it means i will always vote no on it, not not vote ... if your fine with living in a society with no morals, then vote the way you want... Whose morals? Yours? Who do you believe should decide on the morals we should all be living by? why are you arguing? my morals are my morals, if don't like them, then go bug someone else.. i'm tired of you people trying to tell me how to think, all you democrats do is say how right and just you are, and everyone else is wrong... this country survived for 300 years without losing their moral sense, and people like you want to through it all out the window over a stupid thing like gay marriage, just another drain on our sinking ship we call America... Well, you said you want to be able to live in a country that has morals. Clearly, you have an idea of whose morals you want to live by. So, whose morals do you believe this country should live by? This shouldn't be a tough question. your right, it's not a tough answer... the ones that are in place are fine with me... Keyword YOU, as in YOU YOURSELF ALONE......why should everyone else be forced to bow down to your wishes??? Are we free or are we not? NOT the roads we drive on dont erect by themself, taxes pay for them the schools our children go to and the teachers who instruct them dont do it for free, taxes pay for them the security we have isnt armed with natural products that grow from trees,, their training and supplies take money any number of the things that we are able to ENJOY every day are only available because of the MONEY contributed by taxpayers to provide them so no, we are not FREE, from some type of responsibility to the communities and society in which we live,, and not just responsibility for 'ourself' Least you admit it......first honest thing that's came out of your mouth in this thread. None of those things relate to personal behavior though...... In any case, if you really think all that money goes to what they tell you it does.......all I can say to that is...... 
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who's taking away who's rights? no matter how this gay marriage thing goes, someones rights are getting trampled on.. i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for... What rights are getting trampled if gay marriage is legalized? another dumb question... can you not read? it is answered in the SAME POST!!!! Where has your right to live in this country been taken away? No one is forcing you to be gay, have a gay marriage, associate with gay people and so on. And why do you believe nothing is worth voting for anymore? i never said that... your confused... put your glasses on and reread what i posted... i said: i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for... it means i will always vote no on it, not not vote ... if your fine with living in a society with no morals, then vote the way you want... Whose morals? Yours? Who do you believe should decide on the morals we should all be living by? why are you arguing? my morals are my morals, if don't like them, then go bug someone else.. i'm tired of you people trying to tell me how to think, all you democrats do is say how right and just you are, and everyone else is wrong... this country survived for 300 years without losing their moral sense, and people like you want to through it all out the window over a stupid thing like gay marriage, just another drain on our sinking ship we call America... Well, you said you want to be able to live in a country that has morals. Clearly, you have an idea of whose morals you want to live by. So, whose morals do you believe this country should live by? This shouldn't be a tough question. your right, it's not a tough answer... the ones that are in place are fine with me... Keyword YOU, as in YOU YOURSELF ALONE......why should everyone else be forced to bow down to your wishes??? Are we free or are we not? NOT the roads we drive on dont erect by themself, taxes pay for them the schools our children go to and the teachers who instruct them dont do it for free, taxes pay for them the security we have isnt armed with natural products that grow from trees,, their training and supplies take money any number of the things that we are able to ENJOY every day are only available because of the MONEY contributed by taxpayers to provide them so no, we are not FREE, from some type of responsibility to the communities and society in which we live,, and not just responsibility for 'ourself' Least you admit it......first honest thing that's came out of your mouth in this thread. None of those things relate to personal behavior though...... In any case, if you really think all that money goes to what they tell you it does.......all I can say to that is......
'all' what money? I dont recall giving a dollar amount taxes contribute to everything I mentioned that allows us the 'privileges' of the 'advanced' culture we allegeldly live in we have a responsibility to contribute to that culture in the way that is generally agreed upon by its taxpayers and to understand and respect the values that culture generally agress upon,,,even if we dont choose to follow them its not a culture without values, its just an animal kingdom where the bottom line is only survival and physical pleasure end of story,,, |
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Edited by
Surmar
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A Constitutional Argument for Marriage Equalty (Or Getting Government Out of Marriage)
http://youtu.be/DWp79jvy9aA Marriage Would Never be a Right as Long as Government is Involved. Adults Should be Free to Choose What Relationships They Engage In With Other Adults. |
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A Constitutional Argument for Marriage Equalty (Or Getting Government Out of Marriage) http://youtu.be/DWp79jvy9aA Marriage Would Never be a Right as Long as Government is Involved. Adults Should be Free to Choose What Relationships They Engage In With Other Adults. well, adults ARE free to choose their relationships so long as they are consentual marriage is not a 'right', or else it would be available to ALL Adults regardless of their biology (Siblings) adults can be with whomever they wish, taxpayers dont have to promote and validate/license all these relationships though |
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i keep hearing this crap about how the government should not have the right to say who marries who... am i wrong or is this also about GOVERNMENT benefits? the government is the one paying the bills, and they should know what and who they pay money to... if it's not in the budget, it's not in the budget, among other things...
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i keep hearing this crap about how the government should not have the right to say who marries who... am i wrong or is this also about GOVERNMENT benefits? the government is the one paying the bills, and they should know what and who they pay money to... if it's not in the budget, it's not in the budget, among other things... it is a contradiction stay out of marriage EXCEPT to push the idea that our relationships are as desirable and acceptable as others,,,,, |
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i keep hearing this crap about how the government should not have the right to say who marries who... am i wrong or is this also about GOVERNMENT benefits? the government is the one paying the bills, and they should know what and who they pay money to... if it's not in the budget, it's not in the budget, among other things... it is a contradiction stay out of marriage EXCEPT to push the idea that our relationships are as desirable and acceptable as others,,,,, The main problem with that is when people are pushed, they push back... not a good start |
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who's taking away who's rights? no matter how this gay marriage thing goes, someones rights are getting trampled on.. i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for... What rights are getting trampled if gay marriage is legalized? another dumb question... can you not read? it is answered in the SAME POST!!!! Where has your right to live in this country been taken away? No one is forcing you to be gay, have a gay marriage, associate with gay people and so on. And why do you believe nothing is worth voting for anymore? i never said that... your confused... put your glasses on and reread what i posted... i said: i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for... it means i will always vote no on it, not not vote ... if your fine with living in a society with no morals, then vote the way you want... Whose morals? Yours? Who do you believe should decide on the morals we should all be living by? why are you arguing? my morals are my morals, if don't like them, then go bug someone else.. i'm tired of you people trying to tell me how to think, all you democrats do is say how right and just you are, and everyone else is wrong... this country survived for 300 years without losing their moral sense, and people like you want to through it all out the window over a stupid thing like gay marriage, just another drain on our sinking ship we call America... Well, you said you want to be able to live in a country that has morals. Clearly, you have an idea of whose morals you want to live by. So, whose morals do you believe this country should live by? This shouldn't be a tough question. your right, it's not a tough answer... the ones that are in place are fine with me... Keyword YOU, as in YOU YOURSELF ALONE......why should everyone else be forced to bow down to your wishes??? Are we free or are we not? He b*tches about others trying to force their beliefs on him, yet he turns around and does the same thing. And actually degrades people by telling them their moral standard is lowered just because they engage in a sexual activity he doesn't approve of. |
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i keep hearing this crap about how the government should not have the right to say who marries who... am i wrong or is this also about GOVERNMENT benefits? the government is the one paying the bills, and they should know what and who they pay money to... if it's not in the budget, it's not in the budget, among other things... it is a contradiction stay out of marriage EXCEPT to push the idea that our relationships are as desirable and acceptable as others,,,,, The main problem with that is when people are pushed, they push back... not a good start times are a changing hello aunty mom and uncle dad,,,,its probably not gonna 'hurt' anyone,,,, 
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