Topic: Prop 8 Case Arguments Cast Doubt On Gay Marriage Ban
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Wed 03/27/13 11:50 AM




who's taking away who's rights? no matter how this gay marriage thing goes, someones rights are getting trampled on.. i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...


What rights are getting trampled if gay marriage is legalized?


another dumb question... can you not read? it is answered in the SAME POST!!!!


Where has your right to live in this country been taken away? No one is forcing you to be gay, have a gay marriage, associate with gay people and so on. And why do you believe nothing is worth voting for anymore?

mightymoe's photo
Wed 03/27/13 11:56 AM





who's taking away who's rights? no matter how this gay marriage thing goes, someones rights are getting trampled on.. i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...


What rights are getting trampled if gay marriage is legalized?


another dumb question... can you not read? it is answered in the SAME POST!!!!


Where has your right to live in this country been taken away? No one is forcing you to be gay, have a gay marriage, associate with gay people and so on. And why do you believe nothing is worth voting for anymore?


i never said that... your confused... put your glasses on and reread what i posted... i said: i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...

it means i will always vote no on it, not not vote ... if your fine with living in a society with no morals, then vote the way you want...

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Wed 03/27/13 11:59 AM






who's taking away who's rights? no matter how this gay marriage thing goes, someones rights are getting trampled on.. i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...


What rights are getting trampled if gay marriage is legalized?


another dumb question... can you not read? it is answered in the SAME POST!!!!


Where has your right to live in this country been taken away? No one is forcing you to be gay, have a gay marriage, associate with gay people and so on. And why do you believe nothing is worth voting for anymore?


i never said that... your confused... put your glasses on and reread what i posted... i said: i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...

it means i will always vote no on it, not not vote ... if your fine with living in a society with no morals, then vote the way you want...


Whose morals? Yours? Who do you believe should decide on the morals we should all be living by?

willing2's photo
Wed 03/27/13 01:45 PM







who's taking away who's rights? no matter how this gay marriage thing goes, someones rights are getting trampled on.. i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...


What rights are getting trampled if gay marriage is legalized?


another dumb question... can you not read? it is answered in the SAME POST!!!!


Where has your right to live in this country been taken away? No one is forcing you to be gay, have a gay marriage, associate with gay people and so on. And why do you believe nothing is worth voting for anymore?


i never said that... your confused... put your glasses on and reread what i posted... i said: i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...

it means i will always vote no on it, not not vote ... if your fine with living in a society with no morals, then vote the way you want...


Whose morals? Yours? Who do you believe should decide on the morals we should all be living by?

Man on man butt sex is immoral.

mightymoe's photo
Wed 03/27/13 01:53 PM







who's taking away who's rights? no matter how this gay marriage thing goes, someones rights are getting trampled on.. i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...


What rights are getting trampled if gay marriage is legalized?


another dumb question... can you not read? it is answered in the SAME POST!!!!


Where has your right to live in this country been taken away? No one is forcing you to be gay, have a gay marriage, associate with gay people and so on. And why do you believe nothing is worth voting for anymore?


i never said that... your confused... put your glasses on and reread what i posted... i said: i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...

it means i will always vote no on it, not not vote ... if your fine with living in a society with no morals, then vote the way you want...


Whose morals? Yours? Who do you believe should decide on the morals we should all be living by?


why are you arguing? my morals are my morals, if don't like them, then go bug someone else.. i'm tired of you people trying to tell me how to think, all you democrats do is say how right and just you are, and everyone else is wrong... this country survived for 300 years without losing their moral sense, and people like you want to through it all out the window over a stupid thing like gay marriage, just another drain on our sinking ship we call America...

Kleisto's photo
Wed 03/27/13 02:13 PM
Edited by Kleisto on Wed 03/27/13 02:14 PM








who's taking away who's rights? no matter how this gay marriage thing goes, someones rights are getting trampled on.. i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...


What rights are getting trampled if gay marriage is legalized?


another dumb question... can you not read? it is answered in the SAME POST!!!!


Where has your right to live in this country been taken away? No one is forcing you to be gay, have a gay marriage, associate with gay people and so on. And why do you believe nothing is worth voting for anymore?


i never said that... your confused... put your glasses on and reread what i posted... i said: i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...

it means i will always vote no on it, not not vote ... if your fine with living in a society with no morals, then vote the way you want...


Whose morals? Yours? Who do you believe should decide on the morals we should all be living by?


why are you arguing? my morals are my morals, if don't like them, then go bug someone else..


She's arguing because you are trying to use your morals keyword being YOURS to try and tell others how to live and what they can and can't do, and that is wrong. No one is saying you can't think a certain way or have a certain code of conduct to live by. If you wanna disagree with gay marriage, that's fine, but what you CAN'T do is use that disagreement to make them live how you want. That is where the line is crossed.

So you really should take your own advice here dude and leave the gay people alone.....if you don't want people trampling on your rights, don't trample on theirs.

willing2's photo
Wed 03/27/13 02:16 PM









who's taking away who's rights? no matter how this gay marriage thing goes, someones rights are getting trampled on.. i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...


What rights are getting trampled if gay marriage is legalized?


another dumb question... can you not read? it is answered in the SAME POST!!!!


Where has your right to live in this country been taken away? No one is forcing you to be gay, have a gay marriage, associate with gay people and so on. And why do you believe nothing is worth voting for anymore?


i never said that... your confused... put your glasses on and reread what i posted... i said: i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...

it means i will always vote no on it, not not vote ... if your fine with living in a society with no morals, then vote the way you want...


Whose morals? Yours? Who do you believe should decide on the morals we should all be living by?


why are you arguing? my morals are my morals, if don't like them, then go bug someone else..


She's arguing because you are trying to use your morals keyword being YOURS to try and tell others how to live and what they can and can't do, and that is wrong. No one is saying you can't think a certain way or have a certain code of conduct to live by. If you wanna disagree with gay marriage, that's fine, but what you CAN'T do is use that disagreement to make them live how you want. That is where the line is crossed.

So you really should take your own advice here dude and leave the gay people alone.....if you don't want people trampling on your rights, don't trample on theirs.

So. Is male on male butt sex immoral?

Kleisto's photo
Wed 03/27/13 02:18 PM



God doesnt 'treat' me any kind of way,, He gives me life and sets me in the world with free will and ample information to set my own path,,,,


what is 'wrong' for us, is wrong because we are not the CREATOR

just as some things are 'wrong' for children that arent for their parents,,,

God is of a HIGHER knowledge and experience than we are, we do the
'wrong' when we assume he should be serving and catering to us like we expect humans to,,,,,,

talking about self accountability,, those who are afraid of it will continue to blame God for the things and consequences in life they do not want to suffer,,,,,,,


If I build a hut, it is not 'cruel' for me to allow it to willow,,,or to take it back down it is my 'creation'

just as we are Gods, although we wish to be much more significant (Regardless of our obedience, behavior, or faith) than any other creation is to their creator,,,,


there is a simple and painless way to eternal life, those who refuse to take it , are left to willow like that hut

those who take the simple way, are not left

simple and JUST,, nothing illogical about it,,,


If you don't count the fact that your God blackmails you into getting what it wants.......yeah nothing illogical or wrong about that at all.......uh huh.......whoa

Oh and the idea of setting your own path yet only being truly able to do what God wants you to do if you wanna live forever....don't go together......just saying. You're either fully free or you're a slave, pick one, can't be both.


why are you always trying to others how to live and what to believe?
if she wants to believe in a mythical being, let her, whats it to you? same with this gay marriage crap, your right and anyone that disagrees with you is wrong... your exactly like the government you hate so much, if anyone doesn't believe what you believe, then they are idiots and vermin, and you feel you need to make them think like you... disgusting, in my opinion...


Oh people can believe anything they want even if it's completely idiotic and illogical, they have that right. It doesn't mean I'm not gonna call them out on their ignorance and stupidity though, especially if they are using their beliefs be them religious or otherwise to dictate to others.

mightymoe's photo
Wed 03/27/13 02:18 PM









who's taking away who's rights? no matter how this gay marriage thing goes, someones rights are getting trampled on.. i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...


What rights are getting trampled if gay marriage is legalized?


another dumb question... can you not read? it is answered in the SAME POST!!!!


Where has your right to live in this country been taken away? No one is forcing you to be gay, have a gay marriage, associate with gay people and so on. And why do you believe nothing is worth voting for anymore?


i never said that... your confused... put your glasses on and reread what i posted... i said: i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...

it means i will always vote no on it, not not vote ... if your fine with living in a society with no morals, then vote the way you want...


Whose morals? Yours? Who do you believe should decide on the morals we should all be living by?


why are you arguing? my morals are my morals, if don't like them, then go bug someone else..


She's arguing because you are trying to use your morals keyword being YOURS to try and tell others how to live and what they can and can't do, and that is wrong. No one is saying you can't think a certain way or have a certain code of conduct to live by. If you wanna disagree with gay marriage, that's fine, but what you CAN'T do is use that disagreement to make them live how you want. That is where the line is crossed. So you really should take your own advice here dude and leave the gay people alone.....


what exactly have i done to gay people, smartass? you think i'm supposed to vote for what you want, not what i believe in? you can live however you want, does NOT mean i have to agree with it. you can go marry your boyfriend, i could care less... but i will never agree with it, no matter what you say...

Kleisto's photo
Wed 03/27/13 02:20 PM










who's taking away who's rights? no matter how this gay marriage thing goes, someones rights are getting trampled on.. i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...


What rights are getting trampled if gay marriage is legalized?


another dumb question... can you not read? it is answered in the SAME POST!!!!


Where has your right to live in this country been taken away? No one is forcing you to be gay, have a gay marriage, associate with gay people and so on. And why do you believe nothing is worth voting for anymore?


i never said that... your confused... put your glasses on and reread what i posted... i said: i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...

it means i will always vote no on it, not not vote ... if your fine with living in a society with no morals, then vote the way you want...


Whose morals? Yours? Who do you believe should decide on the morals we should all be living by?


why are you arguing? my morals are my morals, if don't like them, then go bug someone else..


She's arguing because you are trying to use your morals keyword being YOURS to try and tell others how to live and what they can and can't do, and that is wrong. No one is saying you can't think a certain way or have a certain code of conduct to live by. If you wanna disagree with gay marriage, that's fine, but what you CAN'T do is use that disagreement to make them live how you want. That is where the line is crossed.

So you really should take your own advice here dude and leave the gay people alone.....if you don't want people trampling on your rights, don't trample on theirs.

So. Is male on male butt sex immoral?


Moral and Immoral depends on the person, what they want, what they need, etc. There is not and should never have been a set standard for morality, everyone is different and should be treated as such, not made the same. As long as you're not harming someone else, and everyone is consenting, whether you're having sex, or doing anything else, there is no wrongdoing to me.

Moral and Immoral beyond that are personal opinions, nothing more.

willing2's photo
Wed 03/27/13 02:22 PM











who's taking away who's rights? no matter how this gay marriage thing goes, someones rights are getting trampled on.. i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...


What rights are getting trampled if gay marriage is legalized?


another dumb question... can you not read? it is answered in the SAME POST!!!!


Where has your right to live in this country been taken away? No one is forcing you to be gay, have a gay marriage, associate with gay people and so on. And why do you believe nothing is worth voting for anymore?


i never said that... your confused... put your glasses on and reread what i posted... i said: i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...

it means i will always vote no on it, not not vote ... if your fine with living in a society with no morals, then vote the way you want...


Whose morals? Yours? Who do you believe should decide on the morals we should all be living by?


why are you arguing? my morals are my morals, if don't like them, then go bug someone else..


She's arguing because you are trying to use your morals keyword being YOURS to try and tell others how to live and what they can and can't do, and that is wrong. No one is saying you can't think a certain way or have a certain code of conduct to live by. If you wanna disagree with gay marriage, that's fine, but what you CAN'T do is use that disagreement to make them live how you want. That is where the line is crossed.

So you really should take your own advice here dude and leave the gay people alone.....if you don't want people trampling on your rights, don't trample on theirs.

So. Is male on male butt sex immoral?


Moral and Immoral depends on the person, what they want, what they need, etc. There is not and should never have been a set standard for morality, everyone is different and should be treated as such, not made the same. As long as you're not harming someone else, and everyone is consenting, whether you're having sex, or doing anything else, there is no wrongdoing to me.

Moral and Immoral beyond that are personal opinions, nothing more.

Complete and total liberal brainwashing BS.smokin

Kleisto's photo
Wed 03/27/13 02:22 PM










who's taking away who's rights? no matter how this gay marriage thing goes, someones rights are getting trampled on.. i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...


What rights are getting trampled if gay marriage is legalized?


another dumb question... can you not read? it is answered in the SAME POST!!!!


Where has your right to live in this country been taken away? No one is forcing you to be gay, have a gay marriage, associate with gay people and so on. And why do you believe nothing is worth voting for anymore?


i never said that... your confused... put your glasses on and reread what i posted... i said: i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...

it means i will always vote no on it, not not vote ... if your fine with living in a society with no morals, then vote the way you want...


Whose morals? Yours? Who do you believe should decide on the morals we should all be living by?


why are you arguing? my morals are my morals, if don't like them, then go bug someone else..


She's arguing because you are trying to use your morals keyword being YOURS to try and tell others how to live and what they can and can't do, and that is wrong. No one is saying you can't think a certain way or have a certain code of conduct to live by. If you wanna disagree with gay marriage, that's fine, but what you CAN'T do is use that disagreement to make them live how you want. That is where the line is crossed. So you really should take your own advice here dude and leave the gay people alone.....


what exactly have i done to gay people, smartass? you think i'm supposed to vote for what you want, not what i believe in? you can live however you want, does NOT mean i have to agree with it. you can go marry your boyfriend, i could care less... but i will never agree with it, no matter what you say...


And that's fine, but again when you USE that belief to try and marginalize others, that's where you step over the line, I don't give a damn about a democratic society or anything like that, what matters is human rights, and you are using your beliefs to try and remove them from someone else just because you disagree with them. That's what you're doing to gay people, bottom line.

Kleisto's photo
Wed 03/27/13 02:23 PM












who's taking away who's rights? no matter how this gay marriage thing goes, someones rights are getting trampled on.. i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...


What rights are getting trampled if gay marriage is legalized?


another dumb question... can you not read? it is answered in the SAME POST!!!!


Where has your right to live in this country been taken away? No one is forcing you to be gay, have a gay marriage, associate with gay people and so on. And why do you believe nothing is worth voting for anymore?


i never said that... your confused... put your glasses on and reread what i posted... i said: i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...

it means i will always vote no on it, not not vote ... if your fine with living in a society with no morals, then vote the way you want...


Whose morals? Yours? Who do you believe should decide on the morals we should all be living by?


why are you arguing? my morals are my morals, if don't like them, then go bug someone else..


She's arguing because you are trying to use your morals keyword being YOURS to try and tell others how to live and what they can and can't do, and that is wrong. No one is saying you can't think a certain way or have a certain code of conduct to live by. If you wanna disagree with gay marriage, that's fine, but what you CAN'T do is use that disagreement to make them live how you want. That is where the line is crossed.

So you really should take your own advice here dude and leave the gay people alone.....if you don't want people trampling on your rights, don't trample on theirs.

So. Is male on male butt sex immoral?


Moral and Immoral depends on the person, what they want, what they need, etc. There is not and should never have been a set standard for morality, everyone is different and should be treated as such, not made the same. As long as you're not harming someone else, and everyone is consenting, whether you're having sex, or doing anything else, there is no wrongdoing to me.

Moral and Immoral beyond that are personal opinions, nothing more.

Complete and total liberal brainwashing BS.smokin


whatever you say dude.......good luck with trying to make everyone the same......smokin

Kleisto's photo
Wed 03/27/13 02:28 PM



God doesnt 'treat' me any kind of way,, He gives me life and sets me in the world with free will and ample information to set my own path,,,,


what is 'wrong' for us, is wrong because we are not the CREATOR

just as some things are 'wrong' for children that arent for their parents,,,

God is of a HIGHER knowledge and experience than we are, we do the
'wrong' when we assume he should be serving and catering to us like we expect humans to,,,,,,

talking about self accountability,, those who are afraid of it will continue to blame God for the things and consequences in life they do not want to suffer,,,,,,,


If I build a hut, it is not 'cruel' for me to allow it to willow,,,or to take it back down it is my 'creation'

just as we are Gods, although we wish to be much more significant (Regardless of our obedience, behavior, or faith) than any other creation is to their creator,,,,


there is a simple and painless way to eternal life, those who refuse to take it , are left to willow like that hut

those who take the simple way, are not left

simple and JUST,, nothing illogical about it,,,


If you don't count the fact that your God blackmails you into getting what it wants.......yeah nothing illogical or wrong about that at all.......uh huh.......whoa

Oh and the idea of setting your own path yet only being truly able to do what God wants you to do if you wanna live forever....don't go together......just saying. You're either fully free or you're a slave, pick one, can't be both.





too many people have been brainwashed into believing that 'freedom' is tied to lack of consequence,,,,



Oh I have nothing wrong with freedom having a consequence attached to bad choices......this is a matter of just vs. unjust. The idea that God FORCES you to act a certain way by penalty of eternal death is as far from just as you could imagine. That's entirely different from saying: "do this and this could happen to you", it's saying: "do this or I'll kill you", one is based out of free will, one is based off blackmail and coercion, it's about that simple. But believe what you want.......

mightymoe's photo
Wed 03/27/13 02:34 PM











who's taking away who's rights? no matter how this gay marriage thing goes, someones rights are getting trampled on.. i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...


What rights are getting trampled if gay marriage is legalized?


another dumb question... can you not read? it is answered in the SAME POST!!!!


Where has your right to live in this country been taken away? No one is forcing you to be gay, have a gay marriage, associate with gay people and so on. And why do you believe nothing is worth voting for anymore?


i never said that... your confused... put your glasses on and reread what i posted... i said: i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...

it means i will always vote no on it, not not vote ... if your fine with living in a society with no morals, then vote the way you want...


Whose morals? Yours? Who do you believe should decide on the morals we should all be living by?


why are you arguing? my morals are my morals, if don't like them, then go bug someone else..


She's arguing because you are trying to use your morals keyword being YOURS to try and tell others how to live and what they can and can't do, and that is wrong. No one is saying you can't think a certain way or have a certain code of conduct to live by. If you wanna disagree with gay marriage, that's fine, but what you CAN'T do is use that disagreement to make them live how you want. That is where the line is crossed. So you really should take your own advice here dude and leave the gay people alone.....


what exactly have i done to gay people, smartass? you think i'm supposed to vote for what you want, not what i believe in? you can live however you want, does NOT mean i have to agree with it. you can go marry your boyfriend, i could care less... but i will never agree with it, no matter what you say...


And that's fine, but again when you USE that belief to try and marginalize others, that's where you step over the line, I don't give a damn about a democratic society or anything like that, what matters is human rights, and you are using your beliefs to try and remove them from someone else just because you disagree with them. That's what you're doing to gay people, bottom line.


you don't give a damn about anything but what you feel is right... you don't care about the way our system is set up
you don't care about morals
you don't care about anyone else's OPINION
and now your saying that i'm trying to make you believe something different?

I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU BELIEVE, NOW OR EVER... the only thing i've said on here is that i'm against gay marriage... if you don't like that, tough...

i've been trying to impress on you that we live in democratic society, the majority rules... if the vote is for gay marriage, then thats what people want, nothing i can do about it, nor would i try... but I will never vote for it... is that to hard for your tiny, insecure mind to understand?

Kleisto's photo
Wed 03/27/13 02:46 PM
Edited by Kleisto on Wed 03/27/13 02:48 PM












who's taking away who's rights? no matter how this gay marriage thing goes, someones rights are getting trampled on.. i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...


What rights are getting trampled if gay marriage is legalized?


another dumb question... can you not read? it is answered in the SAME POST!!!!


Where has your right to live in this country been taken away? No one is forcing you to be gay, have a gay marriage, associate with gay people and so on. And why do you believe nothing is worth voting for anymore?


i never said that... your confused... put your glasses on and reread what i posted... i said: i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...

it means i will always vote no on it, not not vote ... if your fine with living in a society with no morals, then vote the way you want...


Whose morals? Yours? Who do you believe should decide on the morals we should all be living by?


why are you arguing? my morals are my morals, if don't like them, then go bug someone else..


She's arguing because you are trying to use your morals keyword being YOURS to try and tell others how to live and what they can and can't do, and that is wrong. No one is saying you can't think a certain way or have a certain code of conduct to live by. If you wanna disagree with gay marriage, that's fine, but what you CAN'T do is use that disagreement to make them live how you want. That is where the line is crossed. So you really should take your own advice here dude and leave the gay people alone.....


what exactly have i done to gay people, smartass? you think i'm supposed to vote for what you want, not what i believe in? you can live however you want, does NOT mean i have to agree with it. you can go marry your boyfriend, i could care less... but i will never agree with it, no matter what you say...


And that's fine, but again when you USE that belief to try and marginalize others, that's where you step over the line, I don't give a damn about a democratic society or anything like that, what matters is human rights, and you are using your beliefs to try and remove them from someone else just because you disagree with them. That's what you're doing to gay people, bottom line.


you don't give a damn about anything but what you feel is right... you don't care about the way our system is set up
you don't care about morals
you don't care about anyone else's OPINION
and now your saying that i'm trying to make you believe something different?

I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU BELIEVE, NOW OR EVER... the only thing i've said on here is that i'm against gay marriage... if you don't like that, tough...

i've been trying to impress on you that we live in democratic society, the majority rules... if the vote is for gay marriage, then thats what people want, nothing i can do about it, nor would i try... but I will never vote for it... is that to hard for your tiny, insecure mind to understand?


As hard as it is for you to understand the concept of FREEDOM since you seem so hellbent on taking it away from others just because you disagree.......you can hate gay marriage all you want, just don't try and tell someone they can't marry whom they love. Simple as that, your rights end where theirs begin, democratic society be damned, maybe the system is broken ever thought about that? Oh of course not because if it was you couldn't use it to take someone's rights now could you?

And because I disagree with you I don't care about morals? Nice assumption.....really nice. Maybe I just think everyone has their own moral code, and you can't make everyone the same......but no it's easier for your small mind to just say I have no morals......

Oh and I never said you were trying to make me believe something different......but thanks for putting words in my mouth.....

mightymoe's photo
Wed 03/27/13 03:04 PM













who's taking away who's rights? no matter how this gay marriage thing goes, someones rights are getting trampled on.. i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...


What rights are getting trampled if gay marriage is legalized?


another dumb question... can you not read? it is answered in the SAME POST!!!!


Where has your right to live in this country been taken away? No one is forcing you to be gay, have a gay marriage, associate with gay people and so on. And why do you believe nothing is worth voting for anymore?


i never said that... your confused... put your glasses on and reread what i posted... i said: i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for...

it means i will always vote no on it, not not vote ... if your fine with living in a society with no morals, then vote the way you want...


Whose morals? Yours? Who do you believe should decide on the morals we should all be living by?


why are you arguing? my morals are my morals, if don't like them, then go bug someone else..


She's arguing because you are trying to use your morals keyword being YOURS to try and tell others how to live and what they can and can't do, and that is wrong. No one is saying you can't think a certain way or have a certain code of conduct to live by. If you wanna disagree with gay marriage, that's fine, but what you CAN'T do is use that disagreement to make them live how you want. That is where the line is crossed. So you really should take your own advice here dude and leave the gay people alone.....


what exactly have i done to gay people, smartass? you think i'm supposed to vote for what you want, not what i believe in? you can live however you want, does NOT mean i have to agree with it. you can go marry your boyfriend, i could care less... but i will never agree with it, no matter what you say...


And that's fine, but again when you USE that belief to try and marginalize others, that's where you step over the line, I don't give a damn about a democratic society or anything like that, what matters is human rights, and you are using your beliefs to try and remove them from someone else just because you disagree with them. That's what you're doing to gay people, bottom line.


you don't give a damn about anything but what you feel is right... you don't care about the way our system is set up
you don't care about morals
you don't care about anyone else's OPINION
and now your saying that i'm trying to make you believe something different?

I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU BELIEVE, NOW OR EVER... the only thing i've said on here is that i'm against gay marriage... if you don't like that, tough...

i've been trying to impress on you that we live in democratic society, the majority rules... if the vote is for gay marriage, then thats what people want, nothing i can do about it, nor would i try... but I will never vote for it... is that to hard for your tiny, insecure mind to understand?


As hard as it is for you to understand the concept of FREEDOM since you seem so hellbent on taking it away from others just because you disagree.......you can hate gay marriage all you want, just don't try and tell someone they can't marry whom they love. Simple as that, your rights end where theirs begin, democratic society be damned, maybe the system is broken ever thought about that? Oh of course not because if it was you couldn't use it to take someone's rights now could you?

And because I disagree with you I don't care about morals? Nice assumption.....really nice. Maybe I just think everyone has their own moral code, and you can't make everyone the same......but no it's easier for your small mind to just say I have no morals......

Oh and I never said you were trying to make me believe something different......but thanks for putting words in my mouth.....


whoa
haha, nice spin there...

you and tad go have a gay ole time, i'm done with your stupidity



willowdraga's photo
Wed 03/27/13 03:09 PM
Who should have the right to tell others who to love and marry anyway? Stay the hell out of their bedroom.

As long as they are not harming anyone or taking advantage of those who are incapable of making the choice through age or mental capacity, who cares. Really.

It is a waste of our tax money and our time to have to fight this battle....

Just like abortion, if you don't believe in it, DON'T DO IT. You can't stop others from believing in it or doing it. And you waste your time trying.

willing2's photo
Wed 03/27/13 05:29 PM

Who should have the right to tell others who to love and marry anyway? Stay the hell out of their bedroom.

As long as they are not harming anyone or taking advantage of those who are incapable of making the choice through age or mental capacity, who cares. Really.

It is a waste of our tax money and our time to have to fight this battle....

Just like abortion, if you don't believe in it, DON'T DO IT. You can't stop others from believing in it or doing it. And you waste your time trying.

The butt sexers are screwing up the kids.
Embrace butt sex and screw the kids.slaphead

Kleisto's photo
Wed 03/27/13 05:51 PM
Edited by Kleisto on Wed 03/27/13 05:53 PM


Who should have the right to tell others who to love and marry anyway? Stay the hell out of their bedroom.

As long as they are not harming anyone or taking advantage of those who are incapable of making the choice through age or mental capacity, who cares. Really.

It is a waste of our tax money and our time to have to fight this battle....

Just like abortion, if you don't believe in it, DON'T DO IT. You can't stop others from believing in it or doing it. And you waste your time trying.

The butt sexers are screwing up the kids.
Embrace butt sex and screw the kids.slaphead


Says you.....the people who make gays out to be different and raise up bigots for that difference are who screw up the kids, people like you. All kids want is a good home and love, who the hell cares whether those giving it are gay or not? I can guarantee you they wouldn't. You place that judgment into their heads, it's not ingrained.