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Kleisto
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obedience is a good thing, without it there is chaos what is dangerous is obedience without logic or reason That sums up religion right there, there IS no logic or reason in it. And on the other it depends who you are obeying.....and why. If it's someone else trying to run your life......I'll pass and make my own choices thanks. Only people who are afraid to take responsibility for their own lives are afraid of that type of freedom. yeah, no reason to be afraid of 'freedom' , but plenty of reason to fear 'absolute freedom' with billions of people occupying the same earth,,, having rules which guide the running of a home is not the same as running a life,, anymore than running of a government is the same as running a life and religion has as much logic as any other institution,,,,,the bible has as much logic as any other 'historical' book,,,, ********, it's the least logical of any "historical" book out there. People have just been conditioned to think otherwise. As for the rest I'll say it again, people who are afraid of taking responsibility of their own lives are afraid of absolute freedom. And not saying others won't do bad things, people always do, law or no law, but the ends don't justify the means, not now, not ever. so the ten commandments are not logical? the sermon on the mount? forgiveness, repentance, marriage, death,, all illogical huh? the book is full of logic, but people who are offended by the rules and guidelines dismiss all of that to pursue their owh moral standards,,, the ends dont justify the means,,,,, says someone living amongst the safety of a culture with no 'absolute' freedom,,,, after all, our constitution could have just said 'We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. Article 1. Every american citizen shall here forward be absolutely free to do anything they want at any time, as long as it doesnt cause destruction to the person or property of others,,,, PERIOD,,, LOL however, its quite a bit lengthier,, because guidelines and lawsz in a SOCIETY is necessary,,,, No because man has a thirst for power.....universal law of not harming another is really the only law you need, anything else is just man trying to control another. And I will say that there are certain truths in the Bible CERTAIN TRUTHS ONLY, but the rest of it is utter bunk. The idea that God DEMANDS anything of anyone obedience wise with death if you don't comply speaks to a being with an ego complex, not a loving God. That's where the logic ends where that crap begins. perception of love is subjective and emotional has nothing to do with logic he is a loving and JUST God consequence, punishment, reward, repentance, ,, are all part of JUSTICE but many believe only reward and inaction are 'loving' Oh yeah cause ETERNAL death is SOOOOOOO just and loving......right! No sane person would ever punish someone in that way here for mere disobedience, but your God does it and it's good. See what I mean? No logic. |
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Edited by
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obedience is a good thing, without it there is chaos what is dangerous is obedience without logic or reason That sums up religion right there, there IS no logic or reason in it. And on the other it depends who you are obeying.....and why. If it's someone else trying to run your life......I'll pass and make my own choices thanks. Only people who are afraid to take responsibility for their own lives are afraid of that type of freedom. yeah, no reason to be afraid of 'freedom' , but plenty of reason to fear 'absolute freedom' with billions of people occupying the same earth,,, having rules which guide the running of a home is not the same as running a life,, anymore than running of a government is the same as running a life and religion has as much logic as any other institution,,,,,the bible has as much logic as any other 'historical' book,,,, ********, it's the least logical of any "historical" book out there. People have just been conditioned to think otherwise. As for the rest I'll say it again, people who are afraid of taking responsibility of their own lives are afraid of absolute freedom. And not saying others won't do bad things, people always do, law or no law, but the ends don't justify the means, not now, not ever. so the ten commandments are not logical? the sermon on the mount? forgiveness, repentance, marriage, death,, all illogical huh? the book is full of logic, but people who are offended by the rules and guidelines dismiss all of that to pursue their owh moral standards,,, the ends dont justify the means,,,,, says someone living amongst the safety of a culture with no 'absolute' freedom,,,, after all, our constitution could have just said 'We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. Article 1. Every american citizen shall here forward be absolutely free to do anything they want at any time, as long as it doesnt cause destruction to the person or property of others,,,, PERIOD,,, LOL however, its quite a bit lengthier,, because guidelines and lawsz in a SOCIETY is necessary,,,, No because man has a thirst for power.....universal law of not harming another is really the only law you need, anything else is just man trying to control another. And I will say that there are certain truths in the Bible CERTAIN TRUTHS ONLY, but the rest of it is utter bunk. The idea that God DEMANDS anything of anyone obedience wise with death if you don't comply speaks to a being with an ego complex, not a loving God. That's where the logic ends where that crap begins. perception of love is subjective and emotional has nothing to do with logic he is a loving and JUST God consequence, punishment, reward, repentance, ,, are all part of JUSTICE but many believe only reward and inaction are 'loving' Oh yeah cause ETERNAL death is SOOOOOOO just and loving......right! No sane person would ever punish someone in that way here for mere disobedience, but your God does it and it's good. See what I mean? No logic. it is too bad you feel that way God GAVE Me this life, so it is his to guide as he sees fit no other person could create this life for me but HIM so the comparison to what someone else might do is irrelevant in my opinion Id have no life if not for him, he certainly has the JUST authority to take it back in whatever way he so chooses,,,,,, including going back to the "ETERNAL" nothing I was before I was created,,, |
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The History Behind Prop 8.
The Supreme Court of Mass Ordered the Legilature to pass Same Sex Marriage(How the Court is Able to Mandate a Co-Equal of Government do to Anything is Beyond Me) which is where all of this Started. The People in a Number of States (California was One of Them) didn't want their Courts to do the same, so they passed Props to Amend the State Constitutions or (Like California) Pass a Law to Deny Same-Sex Marriages. The Mayor of San Fransisco didn't like the Results, so he started against State Law Issuing Marriage License to Same Sex Couples until the Govenor put a Stop to It & Voided those Licenses by Enforcing a Popular Law Which Just Passed by 74% of the Vote. Then Rather Make the Case for Same Sex Marriage, Those Who Favored it Sued in Court to say that the Law Violated the Constitution and the Supreme Court Imposed that Same Sex Marriages were Legal Which Caused a Major Backlash Against the Court and Same Sex Marriages with talks of Impeaching the Entire Court for Violating the Law as Prop 8 was put on the Ballot to Amend the Constitution. Prop 8 Passed, and with a Movement to Remove the Entire Court by Direct Election (Which would put in Doubt the High Court in Every Case) Gaining Steam; the Court Upheld Prop 8 as the Law. Again, Without Making Their Case to the Voters, the People in Favor of Same Sex Marriages Sued in (The Most Liberal & Overturned Court of the Land by 74% of the Time) Federal Court Which like the State Court, Imposed its Will on an Unwilling Population. I Hope That the High Court Upholds Prop 8; Then Those Who Favor Same-Sex Marriage Would Have to do What They Should Have Done From the Start; Make the Case for Same Sex Marriages Before the Voters Rather Than Have Some Court Impose It. My Personal View on the Matter; The State Shouldn't Have Any Say in what Relationships Concenting Adults Agree to, Take the Power Away from the States to Issue Marriage License, Remove the Tax Breaks & Legal Protections Offered to Those in Approved Relationships; Kick the State Out of the Marriage Chappel. |
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The History Behind Prop 8. The Supreme Court of Mass Ordered the Legilature to pass Same Sex Marriage(How the Court is Able to Mandate a Co-Equal of Government do to Anything is Beyond Me) which is where all of this Started. The People in a Number of States (California was One of Them) didn't want their Courts to do the same, so they passed Props to Amend the State Constitutions or (Like California) Pass a Law to Deny Same-Sex Marriages. The Mayor of San Fransisco didn't like the Results, so he started against State Law Issuing Marriage License to Same Sex Couples until the Govenor put a Stop to It & Voided those Licenses by Enforcing a Popular Law Which Just Passed by 74% of the Vote. Then Rather Make the Case for Same Sex Marriage, Those Who Favored it Sued in Court to say that the Law Violated the Constitution and the Supreme Court Imposed that Same Sex Marriages were Legal Which Caused a Major Backlash Against the Court and Same Sex Marriages with talks of Impeaching the Entire Court for Violating the Law as Prop 8 was put on the Ballot to Amend the Constitution. Prop 8 Passed, and with a Movement to Remove the Entire Court by Direct Election (Which would put in Doubt the High Court in Every Case) Gaining Steam; the Court Upheld Prop 8 as the Law. Again, Without Making Their Case to the Voters, the People in Favor of Same Sex Marriages Sued in (The Most Liberal & Overturned Court of the Land by 74% of the Time) Federal Court Which like the State Court, Imposed its Will on an Unwilling Population. I Hope That the High Court Upholds Prop 8; Then Those Who Favor Same-Sex Marriage Would Have to do What They Should Have Done From the Start; Make the Case for Same Sex Marriages Before the Voters Rather Than Have Some Court Impose It. My Personal View on the Matter; The State Shouldn't Have Any Say in what Relationships Concenting Adults Agree to, Take the Power Away from the States to Issue Marriage License, Remove the Tax Breaks & Legal Protections Offered to Those in Approved Relationships; Kick the State Out of the Marriage Chappel. shame that it would have to come to that for people to feel 'equal',, but I would agree with marriage being a cultural or religious practice, without government involvement and maybe churches or states could decide to encourage commitments between potential heteroparenting unions,,, through perks and benefits to make it socially appealing,,, I totally understand the social case for promoting and encouraging heterosexual commitments, because of the potential citizens that can be created from them,,,,, but if its come to it,, ID rather the government pull out than start practicing the promotion and encouraging of homosexual unions,,, |
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obedience is a good thing, without it there is chaos what is dangerous is obedience without logic or reason That sums up religion right there, there IS no logic or reason in it. And on the other it depends who you are obeying.....and why. If it's someone else trying to run your life......I'll pass and make my own choices thanks. Only people who are afraid to take responsibility for their own lives are afraid of that type of freedom. yeah, no reason to be afraid of 'freedom' , but plenty of reason to fear 'absolute freedom' with billions of people occupying the same earth,,, having rules which guide the running of a home is not the same as running a life,, anymore than running of a government is the same as running a life and religion has as much logic as any other institution,,,,,the bible has as much logic as any other 'historical' book,,,, ********, it's the least logical of any "historical" book out there. People have just been conditioned to think otherwise. As for the rest I'll say it again, people who are afraid of taking responsibility of their own lives are afraid of absolute freedom. And not saying others won't do bad things, people always do, law or no law, but the ends don't justify the means, not now, not ever. so the ten commandments are not logical? the sermon on the mount? forgiveness, repentance, marriage, death,, all illogical huh? the book is full of logic, but people who are offended by the rules and guidelines dismiss all of that to pursue their owh moral standards,,, the ends dont justify the means,,,,, says someone living amongst the safety of a culture with no 'absolute' freedom,,,, after all, our constitution could have just said 'We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. Article 1. Every american citizen shall here forward be absolutely free to do anything they want at any time, as long as it doesnt cause destruction to the person or property of others,,,, PERIOD,,, LOL however, its quite a bit lengthier,, because guidelines and lawsz in a SOCIETY is necessary,,,, No because man has a thirst for power.....universal law of not harming another is really the only law you need, anything else is just man trying to control another. And I will say that there are certain truths in the Bible CERTAIN TRUTHS ONLY, but the rest of it is utter bunk. The idea that God DEMANDS anything of anyone obedience wise with death if you don't comply speaks to a being with an ego complex, not a loving God. That's where the logic ends where that crap begins. perception of love is subjective and emotional has nothing to do with logic he is a loving and JUST God consequence, punishment, reward, repentance, ,, are all part of JUSTICE but many believe only reward and inaction are 'loving' Oh yeah cause ETERNAL death is SOOOOOOO just and loving......right! No sane person would ever punish someone in that way here for mere disobedience, but your God does it and it's good. See what I mean? No logic. it is too bad you feel that way God GAVE Me this life, so it is his to guide as he sees fit no other person could create this life for me but HIM so the comparison to what someone else might do is irrelevant in my opinion Id have no life if not for him, he certainly has the JUST authority to take it back in whatever way he so chooses,,,,,, including going back to the "ETERNAL" nothing I was before I was created,,, Do you realize how INSANE that sounds to any logical thinking person? If any parent in this world decided to treat a child the way you say God treats his children, he or she would be publicly denounced and rightfully so, but yet when God does it it's perfectly fine, nevermind the fact that it's supposed to be higher than we are spiritually yet it's acting in a way even WE know is wrong. Like I said no logic. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Wed 03/27/13 06:24 AM
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obedience is a good thing, without it there is chaos what is dangerous is obedience without logic or reason That sums up religion right there, there IS no logic or reason in it. And on the other it depends who you are obeying.....and why. If it's someone else trying to run your life......I'll pass and make my own choices thanks. Only people who are afraid to take responsibility for their own lives are afraid of that type of freedom. yeah, no reason to be afraid of 'freedom' , but plenty of reason to fear 'absolute freedom' with billions of people occupying the same earth,,, having rules which guide the running of a home is not the same as running a life,, anymore than running of a government is the same as running a life and religion has as much logic as any other institution,,,,,the bible has as much logic as any other 'historical' book,,,, ********, it's the least logical of any "historical" book out there. People have just been conditioned to think otherwise. As for the rest I'll say it again, people who are afraid of taking responsibility of their own lives are afraid of absolute freedom. And not saying others won't do bad things, people always do, law or no law, but the ends don't justify the means, not now, not ever. so the ten commandments are not logical? the sermon on the mount? forgiveness, repentance, marriage, death,, all illogical huh? the book is full of logic, but people who are offended by the rules and guidelines dismiss all of that to pursue their owh moral standards,,, the ends dont justify the means,,,,, says someone living amongst the safety of a culture with no 'absolute' freedom,,,, after all, our constitution could have just said 'We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. Article 1. Every american citizen shall here forward be absolutely free to do anything they want at any time, as long as it doesnt cause destruction to the person or property of others,,,, PERIOD,,, LOL however, its quite a bit lengthier,, because guidelines and lawsz in a SOCIETY is necessary,,,, No because man has a thirst for power.....universal law of not harming another is really the only law you need, anything else is just man trying to control another. And I will say that there are certain truths in the Bible CERTAIN TRUTHS ONLY, but the rest of it is utter bunk. The idea that God DEMANDS anything of anyone obedience wise with death if you don't comply speaks to a being with an ego complex, not a loving God. That's where the logic ends where that crap begins. perception of love is subjective and emotional has nothing to do with logic he is a loving and JUST God consequence, punishment, reward, repentance, ,, are all part of JUSTICE but many believe only reward and inaction are 'loving' Oh yeah cause ETERNAL death is SOOOOOOO just and loving......right! No sane person would ever punish someone in that way here for mere disobedience, but your God does it and it's good. See what I mean? No logic. it is too bad you feel that way God GAVE Me this life, so it is his to guide as he sees fit no other person could create this life for me but HIM so the comparison to what someone else might do is irrelevant in my opinion Id have no life if not for him, he certainly has the JUST authority to take it back in whatever way he so chooses,,,,,, including going back to the "ETERNAL" nothing I was before I was created,,, Do you realize how INSANE that sounds to any logical thinking person? If any parent in this world decided to treat a child the way you say God treats his children, he or she would be publicly denounced and rightfully so, but yet when God does it it's perfectly fine, nevermind the fact that it's supposed to be higher than we are spiritually yet it's acting in a way even WE know is wrong. Like I said no logic. God doesnt 'treat' me any kind of way,, He gives me life and sets me in the world with free will and ample information to set my own path,,,, what is 'wrong' for us, is wrong because we are not the CREATOR just as some things are 'wrong' for children that arent for their parents,,, God is of a HIGHER knowledge and experience than we are, we do the 'wrong' when we assume he should be serving and catering to us like we expect humans to,,,,,, talking about self accountability,, those who are afraid of it will continue to blame God for the things and consequences in life they do not want to suffer,,,,,,, If I build a hut, it is not 'cruel' for me to allow it to willow,,,or to take it back down it is my 'creation' just as we are Gods, although we wish to be much more significant (Regardless of our obedience, behavior, or faith) than any other creation is to their creator,,,, there is a simple and painless way to eternal life, those who refuse to take it , are left to willow like that hut those who take the simple way, are not left simple and JUST,, nothing illogical about it,,, |
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Edited by
Kleisto
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God doesnt 'treat' me any kind of way,, He gives me life and sets me in the world with free will and ample information to set my own path,,,, what is 'wrong' for us, is wrong because we are not the CREATOR just as some things are 'wrong' for children that arent for their parents,,, God is of a HIGHER knowledge and experience than we are, we do the 'wrong' when we assume he should be serving and catering to us like we expect humans to,,,,,, talking about self accountability,, those who are afraid of it will continue to blame God for the things and consequences in life they do not want to suffer,,,,,,, If I build a hut, it is not 'cruel' for me to allow it to willow,,,or to take it back down it is my 'creation' just as we are Gods, although we wish to be much more significant (Regardless of our obedience, behavior, or faith) than any other creation is to their creator,,,, there is a simple and painless way to eternal life, those who refuse to take it , are left to willow like that hut those who take the simple way, are not left simple and JUST,, nothing illogical about it,,, If you don't count the fact that your God blackmails you into getting what it wants.......yeah nothing illogical or wrong about that at all.......uh huh.......  Oh and the idea of setting your own path yet only being truly able to do what God wants you to do if you wanna live forever....don't go together......just saying. You're either fully free or you're a slave, pick one, can't be both. |
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Edited by
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God doesnt 'treat' me any kind of way,, He gives me life and sets me in the world with free will and ample information to set my own path,,,, what is 'wrong' for us, is wrong because we are not the CREATOR just as some things are 'wrong' for children that arent for their parents,,, God is of a HIGHER knowledge and experience than we are, we do the 'wrong' when we assume he should be serving and catering to us like we expect humans to,,,,,, talking about self accountability,, those who are afraid of it will continue to blame God for the things and consequences in life they do not want to suffer,,,,,,, If I build a hut, it is not 'cruel' for me to allow it to willow,,,or to take it back down it is my 'creation' just as we are Gods, although we wish to be much more significant (Regardless of our obedience, behavior, or faith) than any other creation is to their creator,,,, there is a simple and painless way to eternal life, those who refuse to take it , are left to willow like that hut those who take the simple way, are not left simple and JUST,, nothing illogical about it,,, If you don't count the fact that your God blackmails you into getting what it wants.......yeah nothing illogical or wrong about that at all.......uh huh....... Oh and the idea of setting your own path yet only being truly able to do what God wants you to do if you wanna live forever....don't go together......just saying. You're either fully free or you're a slave, pick one, can't be both. too many people have been brainwashed into believing that 'freedom' is tied to lack of consequence,,,, it is what it is,,,, I dont believe God has to please you or me,, it is the other way around we have the driving manual, we can reach the destination safely, or we can wrap ourself around a pole,,, that is up to US griping about the potential and forewarned consequences doesnt change the power we are given to determine our own fates,,,,, blaming the ending on God, is the opposite of taking acccountability for our own choices,,,,, we would not be able to live forever if not for God although some feel it should be entitled them the moment they are created,,,, its Gods blessing that gives us the option for eternal life, those that dont want to follow the path there, will continue to say its Gods fault ,,,,thats life,,, |
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God doesnt 'treat' me any kind of way,, He gives me life and sets me in the world with free will and ample information to set my own path,,,, what is 'wrong' for us, is wrong because we are not the CREATOR just as some things are 'wrong' for children that arent for their parents,,, God is of a HIGHER knowledge and experience than we are, we do the 'wrong' when we assume he should be serving and catering to us like we expect humans to,,,,,, talking about self accountability,, those who are afraid of it will continue to blame God for the things and consequences in life they do not want to suffer,,,,,,, If I build a hut, it is not 'cruel' for me to allow it to willow,,,or to take it back down it is my 'creation' just as we are Gods, although we wish to be much more significant (Regardless of our obedience, behavior, or faith) than any other creation is to their creator,,,, there is a simple and painless way to eternal life, those who refuse to take it , are left to willow like that hut those who take the simple way, are not left simple and JUST,, nothing illogical about it,,, If you don't count the fact that your God blackmails you into getting what it wants.......yeah nothing illogical or wrong about that at all.......uh huh....... Oh and the idea of setting your own path yet only being truly able to do what God wants you to do if you wanna live forever....don't go together......just saying. You're either fully free or you're a slave, pick one, can't be both. why are you always trying to others how to live and what to believe? if she wants to believe in a mythical being, let her, whats it to you? same with this gay marriage crap, your right and anyone that disagrees with you is wrong... your exactly like the government you hate so much, if anyone doesn't believe what you believe, then they are idiots and vermin, and you feel you need to make them think like you... disgusting, in my opinion... |
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Discrimination is not always a bad thing. It means to use discernment. It also means to differentiate. For example- difference between right and wrong...or moral and immoral. In this case, discrimination is a bad thing. Just because you feel same sex is wrong doesn't make it wrong. There's no need to discriminate against gay people just because you disagree with them. |
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If the pro-homosexers want this thing to pass, have them include bestiality in the works. Man-man, woman-woman, man-goat, woman-burro. Same moral aptitude. You're talking about very different things. This makes no sense at all, so no, they don't have to include bestiality. |
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so i take it you don't believe in the voting system? you can cry and call discrimination all you want, but the majority said no... If a state decided to vote to ban interracial marriages, would you be ok with it? whether i'm ok with it or not has nothing to do with it...if it's the law, then i have to accept it...just as you should Way to dance around answering the question. Let's try it this way. Interracial marriages were once banned. Should they have just accepted it, rather than fighting to get the law changed? agian, it doesn't matter what my opinion is, i'm just one of many that vote on issues such as these... Well, you just told me that you accept the law and I should, too. So then you're saying those who fought for interracial marriages to be legal should have just accepted the law and not fought for it. What about polygamy, incest and pedophiles discrimination. Should those be fought for too? Why do people always bring these things up when discussion homosexuality? They're completely different issues. |
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If the pro-homosexers want this thing to pass, have them include bestiality in the works. Man-man, woman-woman, man-goat, woman-burro. Same moral aptitude. again BULL. Unless you can prove without doubt an animal can consent to such a thing like a human being can, the argument has NO basis in reality whatsoever. NONE, they are NOT the same thing. Same would go for pedophilia too.....god how I love the extreme arguments.....truly. Animals CAN show consent. Pardon the graphic... but have you ever seen a dog hump a man's leg? I'd say, that's more than consent... that's aggressive initiation. So, because you've seen a dog hump a man's leg, you believe all animals can consent to sex with humans? Show me a case where an animal can say the words yes or no. Do you believe humans show consent in the same way? If they're unable to say the word no, are they showing consent? |
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Discrimination is not always a bad thing. It means to use discernment. It also means to differentiate. For example- difference between right and wrong...or moral and immoral. In this case, discrimination is a bad thing. Just because you feel same sex is wrong doesn't make it wrong. There's no need to discriminate against gay people just because you disagree with them. and because you think it's right doesn't make it right either... and apparently, 52% of California thinks it's wrong too... so in a democratic society, the majority rules... not discrimination either, they can marry anyone of the opposite sex they want... but this whole thing is about money anyway, so any ot6her reason they say is just a lie... |
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Homosexuality is corrupting our children. No wonder our youth are so troubled today. What a selfish society we live in! Self-gratification at any expense! That's what you are teaching your children! Selfish? Selfish is when people want something like same sex marriage banned because it goes against their own beliefs. Selfish is trying to push their own religious morals on others who may not agree. What you're teaching young children is it's ok to be bigoted against those you disagree with. How sad. |
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Discrimination is not always a bad thing. It means to use discernment. It also means to differentiate. For example- difference between right and wrong...or moral and immoral. In this case, discrimination is a bad thing. Just because you feel same sex is wrong doesn't make it wrong. There's no need to discriminate against gay people just because you disagree with them. and because you think it's right doesn't make it right either... and apparently, 52% of California thinks it's wrong too... so in a democratic society, the majority rules... not discrimination either, they can marry anyone of the opposite sex they want... but this whole thing is about money anyway, so any ot6her reason they say is just a lie... Why would they marry the opposite sex? You have the right to marry someone you love and they should have that same right. It's as simple as that. |
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who's taking away who's rights? no matter how this gay marriage thing goes, someones rights are getting trampled on.. i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for... What rights are getting trampled if gay marriage is legalized? |
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Discrimination is not always a bad thing. It means to use discernment. It also means to differentiate. For example- difference between right and wrong...or moral and immoral. In this case, discrimination is a bad thing. Just because you feel same sex is wrong doesn't make it wrong. There's no need to discriminate against gay people just because you disagree with them. and because you think it's right doesn't make it right either... and apparently, 52% of California thinks it's wrong too... so in a democratic society, the majority rules... not discrimination either, they can marry anyone of the opposite sex they want... but this whole thing is about money anyway, so any ot6her reason they say is just a lie... Why would they marry the opposite sex? You have the right to marry someone you love and they should have that same right. It's as simple as that. if it was that simple, it wouldn't be an issue... and i don't see very much love with gays, they say it, then hit on the next guy they see... they love sex, thats about it... |
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who's taking away who's rights? no matter how this gay marriage thing goes, someones rights are getting trampled on.. i think my right to live in a country that has some moral values left is worth voting for... What rights are getting trampled if gay marriage is legalized? another dumb question... can you not read? it is answered in the SAME POST!!!! |
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Discrimination is not always a bad thing. It means to use discernment. It also means to differentiate. For example- difference between right and wrong...or moral and immoral. In this case, discrimination is a bad thing. Just because you feel same sex is wrong doesn't make it wrong. There's no need to discriminate against gay people just because you disagree with them. and because you think it's right doesn't make it right either... and apparently, 52% of California thinks it's wrong too... so in a democratic society, the majority rules... not discrimination either, they can marry anyone of the opposite sex they want... but this whole thing is about money anyway, so any ot6her reason they say is just a lie... Why would they marry the opposite sex? You have the right to marry someone you love and they should have that same right. It's as simple as that. if it was that simple, it wouldn't be an issue... and i don't see very much love with gays, they say it, then hit on the next guy they see... they love sex, thats about it... There are many, many straight people that way as well. Does that mean you want to outlaw marriage for them, too? And why would you think all gay people are that way? |
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