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I think it is important to learn where people stand on issues that are important. On a thread on another site one lady said she got up and left her date at a restaurant after he prayed over his meal. Many on that site said she was rude and should have found out how serious was his faith to him. Our political and religious believes normally go to the core of who we are. While you may have a good time on a date and become good friends, once two people start living together their personal beliefs and habits can cause problems if they are too different. This does not say they cannot make it work, just that it can create major problems. Wow, that was a radical move on her part... to despise God so much she can't even stand to see someone pray? Ouch! So, are you saying that you wouldn't try to get to know the member you'd been interested in on a personal basis, if you learned through thread interactions that they had some views different from yours? You don't think people can change for the right person? All changes in a person are due a DESIRE to change. Any benefit that might come are an effect of that change & NEED to be simply accepted. Yes, I know, people only change because they want too, not because someone else wants them too... but, do you stop trying to get to know other members on a personal level if you see something of their views or actions on the boards that turns you off? Simply.....YES There are many people here, that chose to express themselves in manners I CAN NOT agree with. I CHOSE not to comment on their topics or desire any form of contact. Like all others; I act as I follow MY PERSONAL CHOICE. thank you for answering further... I understand completely... 
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I think it is important to learn where people stand on issues that are important. On a thread on another site one lady said she got up and left her date at a restaurant after he prayed over his meal. Many on that site said she was rude and should have found out how serious was his faith to him. Our political and religious believes normally go to the core of who we are. While you may have a good time on a date and become good friends, once two people start living together their personal beliefs and habits can cause problems if they are too different. This does not say they cannot make it work, just that it can create major problems. Wow, that was a radical move on her part... to despise God so much she can't even stand to see someone pray? Ouch! So, are you saying that you wouldn't try to get to know the member you'd been interested in on a personal basis, if you learned through thread interactions that they had some views different from yours? You don't think people can change for the right person? Maybe he just thought that he didn't want to get involved with the sort of person that might preach about people despising God if you aren't into that sort of thing? Why assume that he "despised God"? Maybe he just doesn't care much for religious types and felt awkward because he felt a bit of pressure to join in with the praying and didn't want to have a conversation about religion on a date? 
Is that really so hard to understand? The guy decided that she wasn't his type and it would certainly make me feel a bit awkward if I met someone for a date and they started praying or preaching. Now, maybe the lady wasn't a total Bible basher and it's just her habit to say grace and it is rude to just walk out on somebody like that but he might dislike religious types or not want to date them because religion is contraversial and faith is a personal matter. I can only speculate about why the guy walked out but I don't just assume that it meant that he "hated God". Many of us were brought up by religious parents that pressured us into going to church and praying and we don't want anything to do with organised religion or preachy people. Some people dislike christians because they think that they are bigots that want to force their views on other people and a lot of people that call themselves christians are just that. Now we have started an argument about religion. Do you think this would be a fun thing to do on a date and if you got the idea into your head that a guy that you were out on a date with "despised God" wouldn't you just feel like ending that date yourself or would you prefer to preach to him about it? |
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I think it is important to learn where people stand on issues that are important. On a thread on another site one lady said she got up and left her date at a restaurant after he prayed over his meal. Many on that site said she was rude and should have found out how serious was his faith to him. Our political and religious believes normally go to the core of who we are. While you may have a good time on a date and become good friends, once two people start living together their personal beliefs and habits can cause problems if they are too different. This does not say they cannot make it work, just that it can create major problems. Wow, that was a radical move on her part... to despise God so much she can't even stand to see someone pray? Ouch! So, are you saying that you wouldn't try to get to know the member you'd been interested in on a personal basis, if you learned through thread interactions that they had some views different from yours? You don't think people can change for the right person? Maybe he just thought that he didn't want to get involved with the sort of person that might preach about people despising God if you aren't into that sort of thing? Why assume that he "despised God"? Maybe he just doesn't care much for religious types and felt awkward because he felt a bit of pressure to join in with the praying and didn't want to have a conversation about religion on a date?
Is that really so hard to understand? The guy decided that she wasn't his type and it would certainly make me feel a bit awkward if I met someone for a date and they started praying or preaching. Now, maybe the lady wasn't a total Bible basher and it's just her habit to say grace and it is rude to just walk out on somebody like that but he might dislike religious types or not want to date them because religion is contraversial and faith is a personal matter. I can only speculate about why the guy walked out but I don't just assume that it meant that he "hated God". Many of us were brought up by religious parents that pressured us into going to church and praying and we don't want anything to do with organised religion or preachy people. Some people dislike christians because they think that they are bigots that want to force their views on other people and a lot of people that call themselves christians are just that. Now we have started an argument about religion. Do you think this would be a fun thing to do on a date and if you got the idea into your head that a guy that you were out on a date with "despised God" wouldn't you just feel like ending that date yourself or would you prefer to preach to him about it? I don't know why you want to argue religion. According to the original poster it was the woman that walked out on the man as he prayed. I merely made a comment about what may have compelled her to react so definitively. Then I went on to ask the original poster to expound on what he said that pertains to my original post. The different spin you created has nothing to do with either of the posts involved, that's why I ??? your first post, as it is very confusing... now you say "we" have started an argument, but I'm not going to argue religion. I appreciate you taking the time to read and respond to my original post though...
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I wouldn't even be posting in the forums if I didn't want to hear others with opposing views.I think there are a few who have "venom" attached to them and as a choice I do not respond, However if I'm attracted to a women it would have to be a very serious divide over a different view to make me not interested in her.
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I wouldn't even be posting in the forums if I didn't want to hear others with opposing views.I think there are a few who have "venom" attached to them and as a choice I do not respond, However if I'm attracted to a women it would have to be a very serious divide over a different view to make me not interested in her. That's a really cool answer, jack, truly... to know that you don't let the small stuff get in the way.. good for you..
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I am friends with someone on FB that I can't stand their views. I don't defriend them because it is important to hear all sides of a story, rather you agree or not to the side you are hearing. Okay, so are you saying that if you were attracted to someone on the forums and didn't like their views, you would still be friends with them, but wouldn't try to get to know them more on a personal level? I can say for myself, that if I was attracted to someone on the forums but read some things I did not like and it can be anything, I most likely would lose that attraction. Why? because to me attraction is inside and out. And I am not saying that the person cant have their own views, I'm saying that it could be his beliefs in life, how he conducts himself etc, just depends on the subject. But I could definitely ger turned off. |
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Personally, I find it easier to change things I do than to change my core beliefs. So you wouldn't get to know another member more personally if you didn't like what you saw of them on the boards? It really depends on what a disagreement is about. I can disagree with a person about something important but non-essential and still be attracted to that person. |
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I think it is important to learn where people stand on issues that are important. On a thread on another site one lady said she got up and left her date at a restaurant after he prayed over his meal. Many on that site said she was rude and should have found out how serious was his faith to him. Our political and religious believes normally go to the core of who we are. While you may have a good time on a date and become good friends, once two people start living together their personal beliefs and habits can cause problems if they are too different. This does not say they cannot make it work, just that it can create major problems. Wow, that was a radical move on her part... to despise God so much she can't even stand to see someone pray? Ouch! So, are you saying that you wouldn't try to get to know the member you'd been interested in on a personal basis, if you learned through thread interactions that they had some views different from yours? You don't think people can change for the right person? Maybe he just thought that he didn't want to get involved with the sort of person that might preach about people despising God if you aren't into that sort of thing? Why assume that he "despised God"? Maybe he just doesn't care much for religious types and felt awkward because he felt a bit of pressure to join in with the praying and didn't want to have a conversation about religion on a date?
Is that really so hard to understand? The guy decided that she wasn't his type and it would certainly make me feel a bit awkward if I met someone for a date and they started praying or preaching. Now, maybe the lady wasn't a total Bible basher and it's just her habit to say grace and it is rude to just walk out on somebody like that but he might dislike religious types or not want to date them because religion is contraversial and faith is a personal matter. I can only speculate about why the guy walked out but I don't just assume that it meant that he "hated God". Many of us were brought up by religious parents that pressured us into going to church and praying and we don't want anything to do with organised religion or preachy people. Some people dislike christians because they think that they are bigots that want to force their views on other people and a lot of people that call themselves christians are just that. Now we have started an argument about religion. Do you think this would be a fun thing to do on a date and if you got the idea into your head that a guy that you were out on a date with "despised God" wouldn't you just feel like ending that date yourself or would you prefer to preach to him about it? I don't know why you want to argue religion. According to the original poster it was the woman that walked out on the man as he prayed. I merely made a comment about what may have compelled her to react so definitively. Then I went on to ask the original poster to expound on what he said that pertains to my original post. The different spin you created has nothing to do with either of the posts involved, that's why I ??? your first post, as it is very confusing... now you say "we" have started an argument, but I'm not going to argue religion. I appreciate you taking the time to read and respond to my original post though...
I don't want to argue about religion either but you said, "Wow, that was a radical move on her part... to despise God so much she can't even stand to see someone pray?" That's not "merely making a comment". You were either making an assumption or asking a rhetorical question. I responded to it anyway because this topic is presumably about people saying things on this forum that can effect your opinion of them. Going on about people "despising God" is going to give some people the impression that you are a preachy person and it doesn't particularly matter to me what your religious views are but you want to know whether coming out with statements about heathens that despise God in this forum might put people off from making a "move" and yes, I think it could. |
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I am friends with someone on FB that I can't stand their views. I don't defriend them because it is important to hear all sides of a story, rather you agree or not to the side you are hearing. Okay, so are you saying that if you were attracted to someone on the forums and didn't like their views, you would still be friends with them, but wouldn't try to get to know them more on a personal level? I can say for myself, that if I was attracted to someone on the forums but read some things I did not like and it can be anything, I most likely would lose that attraction. Why? because to me attraction is inside and out. And I am not saying that the person cant have their own views, I'm saying that it could be his beliefs in life, how he conducts himself etc, just depends on the subject. But I could definitely ger turned off. I definitely agree... 
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Personally, I find it easier to change things I do than to change my core beliefs. So you wouldn't get to know another member more personally if you didn't like what you saw of them on the boards? It really depends on what a disagreement is about. I can disagree with a person about something important but non-essential and still be attracted to that person. cool...
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I think it is important to learn where people stand on issues that are important. On a thread on another site one lady said she got up and left her date at a restaurant after he prayed over his meal. Many on that site said she was rude and should have found out how serious was his faith to him. Our political and religious believes normally go to the core of who we are. While you may have a good time on a date and become good friends, once two people start living together their personal beliefs and habits can cause problems if they are too different. This does not say they cannot make it work, just that it can create major problems. Wow, that was a radical move on her part... to despise God so much she can't even stand to see someone pray? Ouch! So, are you saying that you wouldn't try to get to know the member you'd been interested in on a personal basis, if you learned through thread interactions that they had some views different from yours? You don't think people can change for the right person? Maybe he just thought that he didn't want to get involved with the sort of person that might preach about people despising God if you aren't into that sort of thing? Why assume that he "despised God"? Maybe he just doesn't care much for religious types and felt awkward because he felt a bit of pressure to join in with the praying and didn't want to have a conversation about religion on a date?
Is that really so hard to understand? The guy decided that she wasn't his type and it would certainly make me feel a bit awkward if I met someone for a date and they started praying or preaching. Now, maybe the lady wasn't a total Bible basher and it's just her habit to say grace and it is rude to just walk out on somebody like that but he might dislike religious types or not want to date them because religion is contraversial and faith is a personal matter. I can only speculate about why the guy walked out but I don't just assume that it meant that he "hated God". Many of us were brought up by religious parents that pressured us into going to church and praying and we don't want anything to do with organised religion or preachy people. Some people dislike christians because they think that they are bigots that want to force their views on other people and a lot of people that call themselves christians are just that. Now we have started an argument about religion. Do you think this would be a fun thing to do on a date and if you got the idea into your head that a guy that you were out on a date with "despised God" wouldn't you just feel like ending that date yourself or would you prefer to preach to him about it? I don't know why you want to argue religion. According to the original poster it was the woman that walked out on the man as he prayed. I merely made a comment about what may have compelled her to react so definitively. Then I went on to ask the original poster to expound on what he said that pertains to my original post. The different spin you created has nothing to do with either of the posts involved, that's why I ??? your first post, as it is very confusing... now you say "we" have started an argument, but I'm not going to argue religion. I appreciate you taking the time to read and respond to my original post though...
I don't want to argue about religion either but you said, "Wow, that was a radical move on her part... to despise God so much she can't even stand to see someone pray?" That's not "merely making a comment". You were either making an assumption or asking a rhetorical question. I responded to it anyway because this topic is presumably about people saying things on this forum that can effect your opinion of them. Going on about people "despising God" is going to give some people the impression that you are a preachy person and it doesn't particularly matter to me what your religious views are but you want to know whether coming out with statements about heathens that despise God in this forum might put people off from making a "move" and yes, I think it could. well, tawt, if the two words I posted, "despise God"... out of the thousands of posts I've created here on Mingle, suddenly makes me look like a preachy person, and I would turn off, what did you say, "heathens", because of this 23 words total in the sentence... then I dare say I wasn't meant to connect with those who take offense to this statement, especially if they didn't bother to ask me what I really meant by it before passing judgment on me... |
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Men that I have met write personal messages. I do not meet anyone off the Boards. Usually, you don't know Men until they write you on a personal basis and talk over the phone. Boards are for All viewers, not personal.
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I think it is important to learn where people stand on issues that are important. On a thread on another site one lady said she got up and left her date at a restaurant after he prayed over his meal. Many on that site said she was rude and should have found out how serious was his faith to him. Our political and religious believes normally go to the core of who we are. While you may have a good time on a date and become good friends, once two people start living together their personal beliefs and habits can cause problems if they are too different. This does not say they cannot make it work, just that it can create major problems. Wow, that was a radical move on her part... to despise God so much she can't even stand to see someone pray? Ouch! So, are you saying that you wouldn't try to get to know the member you'd been interested in on a personal basis, if you learned through thread interactions that they had some views different from yours? You don't think people can change for the right person? Maybe he just thought that he didn't want to get involved with the sort of person that might preach about people despising God if you aren't into that sort of thing? Why assume that he "despised God"? Maybe he just doesn't care much for religious types and felt awkward because he felt a bit of pressure to join in with the praying and didn't want to have a conversation about religion on a date?
Is that really so hard to understand? The guy decided that she wasn't his type and it would certainly make me feel a bit awkward if I met someone for a date and they started praying or preaching. Now, maybe the lady wasn't a total Bible basher and it's just her habit to say grace and it is rude to just walk out on somebody like that but he might dislike religious types or not want to date them because religion is contraversial and faith is a personal matter. I can only speculate about why the guy walked out but I don't just assume that it meant that he "hated God". Many of us were brought up by religious parents that pressured us into going to church and praying and we don't want anything to do with organised religion or preachy people. Some people dislike christians because they think that they are bigots that want to force their views on other people and a lot of people that call themselves christians are just that. Now we have started an argument about religion. Do you think this would be a fun thing to do on a date and if you got the idea into your head that a guy that you were out on a date with "despised God" wouldn't you just feel like ending that date yourself or would you prefer to preach to him about it? I don't know why you want to argue religion. According to the original poster it was the woman that walked out on the man as he prayed. I merely made a comment about what may have compelled her to react so definitively. Then I went on to ask the original poster to expound on what he said that pertains to my original post. The different spin you created has nothing to do with either of the posts involved, that's why I ??? your first post, as it is very confusing... now you say "we" have started an argument, but I'm not going to argue religion. I appreciate you taking the time to read and respond to my original post though...
I don't want to argue about religion either but you said, "Wow, that was a radical move on her part... to despise God so much she can't even stand to see someone pray?" That's not "merely making a comment". You were either making an assumption or asking a rhetorical question. I responded to it anyway because this topic is presumably about people saying things on this forum that can effect your opinion of them. Going on about people "despising God" is going to give some people the impression that you are a preachy person and it doesn't particularly matter to me what your religious views are but you want to know whether coming out with statements about heathens that despise God in this forum might put people off from making a "move" and yes, I think it could. well, tawt, if the two words I posted, "despise God"... out of the thousands of posts I've created here on Mingle, suddenly makes me look like a preachy person, and I would turn off, what did you say, "heathens", because of this 23 words total in the sentence... then I dare say I wasn't meant to connect with those who take offense to this statement, especially if they didn't bother to ask me what I really meant by it before passing judgment on me... Yeah, that's a good NO U response but you've done this before where you make provocative statements that people respond to and instead of explaining what it was that you did mean you accuse them of not asking or saying that it's a hypothetical scenario or ancient history that you can't bee bothered to go over again. I don't think that you can really blame anyone for taking someone that talks about people hating God as a preachy person and I've put it to you that you did give at least me that impression with that post. If I got the wrong impression and you aren't like that then why not just say so instead of trying to turn my post back on me? |
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Men that I have met write personal messages. I do not meet anyone off the Boards. Usually, you don't know Men until they write you on a personal basis and talk over the phone. Boards are for All viewers, not personal. Yes, I understand that... but the men that you met did you first meet them on the boards then they messaged you? |
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How do you expect to obtain reasonable opinions about something unless you listen to the pros and cons of arguments surrounding a topic? Diversity in hearing opinions is how we make who we are and our own personal opinions. That is why, although I disagree with someone, I want not be friends with them.
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How do you expect to obtain reasonable opinions about something unless you listen to the pros and cons of arguments surrounding a topic? Diversity in hearing opinions is how we make who we are and our own personal opinions. That is why, although I disagree with someone, I want not be friends with them. I've been thinking the very same thing Hippy... |
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Men that I have met write personal messages. I do not meet anyone off the Boards. Usually, you don't know Men until they write you on a personal basis and talk over the phone. Boards are for All viewers, not personal. Yes, I understand that... but the men that you met did you first meet them on the boards then they messaged you? No the men that I have met were not on any forums. They had been active in searching out dates. |
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I think it is important to learn where people stand on issues that are important. On a thread on another site one lady said she got up and left her date at a restaurant after he prayed over his meal. Many on that site said she was rude and should have found out how serious was his faith to him. Our political and religious believes normally go to the core of who we are. While you may have a good time on a date and become good friends, once two people start living together their personal beliefs and habits can cause problems if they are too different. This does not say they cannot make it work, just that it can create major problems. Wow, that was a radical move on her part... to despise God so much she can't even stand to see someone pray? Ouch! So, are you saying that you wouldn't try to get to know the member you'd been interested in on a personal basis, if you learned through thread interactions that they had some views different from yours? You don't think people can change for the right person? Maybe he just thought that he didn't want to get involved with the sort of person that might preach about people despising God if you aren't into that sort of thing? Why assume that he "despised God"? Maybe he just doesn't care much for religious types and felt awkward because he felt a bit of pressure to join in with the praying and didn't want to have a conversation about religion on a date?
Is that really so hard to understand? The guy decided that she wasn't his type and it would certainly make me feel a bit awkward if I met someone for a date and they started praying or preaching. Now, maybe the lady wasn't a total Bible basher and it's just her habit to say grace and it is rude to just walk out on somebody like that but he might dislike religious types or not want to date them because religion is contraversial and faith is a personal matter. I can only speculate about why the guy walked out but I don't just assume that it meant that he "hated God". Many of us were brought up by religious parents that pressured us into going to church and praying and we don't want anything to do with organised religion or preachy people. Some people dislike christians because they think that they are bigots that want to force their views on other people and a lot of people that call themselves christians are just that. Now we have started an argument about religion. Do you think this would be a fun thing to do on a date and if you got the idea into your head that a guy that you were out on a date with "despised God" wouldn't you just feel like ending that date yourself or would you prefer to preach to him about it? I don't know why you want to argue religion. According to the original poster it was the woman that walked out on the man as he prayed. I merely made a comment about what may have compelled her to react so definitively. Then I went on to ask the original poster to expound on what he said that pertains to my original post. The different spin you created has nothing to do with either of the posts involved, that's why I ??? your first post, as it is very confusing... now you say "we" have started an argument, but I'm not going to argue religion. I appreciate you taking the time to read and respond to my original post though...
I don't want to argue about religion either but you said, "Wow, that was a radical move on her part... to despise God so much she can't even stand to see someone pray?" That's not "merely making a comment". You were either making an assumption or asking a rhetorical question. I responded to it anyway because this topic is presumably about people saying things on this forum that can effect your opinion of them. Going on about people "despising God" is going to give some people the impression that you are a preachy person and it doesn't particularly matter to me what your religious views are but you want to know whether coming out with statements about heathens that despise God in this forum might put people off from making a "move" and yes, I think it could. well, tawt, if the two words I posted, "despise God"... out of the thousands of posts I've created here on Mingle, suddenly makes me look like a preachy person, and I would turn off, what did you say, "heathens", because of this 23 words total in the sentence... then I dare say I wasn't meant to connect with those who take offense to this statement, especially if they didn't bother to ask me what I really meant by it before passing judgment on me... Yeah, that's a good NO U response but you've done this before where you make provocative statements that people respond to and instead of explaining what it was that you did mean you accuse them of not asking or saying that it's a hypothetical scenario or ancient history that you can't bee bothered to go over again. I don't think that you can really blame anyone for taking someone that talks about people hating God as a preachy person and I've put it to you that you did give at least me that impression with that post. If I got the wrong impression and you aren't like that then why not just say so instead of trying to turn my post back on me? tawt, you discern and respond the way that is right for you, just like I discern and respond in the way that is right for me. if we have some kind of communication problem with one another, and we can no longer relate without feeling like we need to defend ourselves, rather than begin a sparring match on the thread, we can simply agree to disagree and close the subject. if you'd be so kind...
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Men that I have met write personal messages. I do not meet anyone off the Boards. Usually, you don't know Men until they write you on a personal basis and talk over the phone. Boards are for All viewers, not personal. Yes, I understand that... but the men that you met did you first meet them on the boards then they messaged you? No the men that I have met were not on any forums. They had been active in searching out dates. okay... that's good to know...
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How do you expect to obtain reasonable opinions about something unless you listen to the pros and cons of arguments surrounding a topic? Diversity in hearing opinions is how we make who we are and our own personal opinions. That is why, although I disagree with someone, I want not be friends with them. hippie, if you are directing this argument my way, then I don't see what it has to do with the subject I posted originally. But if you are asking someone else, then forgive my intrusion into your conversation.
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