Topic: quantom entanglement... faster than light?
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Sun 06/16/13 10:37 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 06/16/13 10:39 AM
The fact that nothing does not exist, and zero does not really exist either, (its not a number, as it represents something that cannot exist) ---proves that time and space do not actually exist.

This is already a singularity.

This reality is an illusion. Do the math. There is your proof.

Consciousness is all that exists and consciousness creates this illusion that we insist is "real."

But I guess if we want to call it real, we certainly have the power to do that. Its our illusion after all.




RKISIT's photo
Sun 06/16/13 11:09 AM

The fact that nothing does not exist, and zero does not really exist either, (its not a number, as it represents something that cannot exist) ---proves that time and space do not actually exist.

This is already a singularity.

This reality is an illusion. Do the math. There is your proof.

Consciousness is all that exists and consciousness creates this illusion that we insist is "real."

But I guess if we want to call it real, we certainly have the power to do that. Its our illusion after all.





Yeah well theres also the vibrational interpretation where everything is nothing but waves and vibrations of energy that our senses can interpret what is observed through the brain.
Anyways the zero i'm referring to means all the laws of physics have ended.

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Sun 06/16/13 11:11 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 06/16/13 11:12 AM


The fact that nothing does not exist, and zero does not really exist either, (its not a number, as it represents something that cannot exist) ---proves that time and space do not actually exist.

This is already a singularity.

This reality is an illusion. Do the math. There is your proof.

Consciousness is all that exists and consciousness creates this illusion that we insist is "real."

But I guess if we want to call it real, we certainly have the power to do that. Its our illusion after all.





Yeah well theres also the vibrational interpretation where everything is nothing but waves and vibrations of energy that our senses can interpret what is observed through the brain.
Anyways the zero i'm referring to means all the laws of physics have ended.


Exactly.

Which they will, when we discover the true nature of "reality."
But for now, the laws of physics are for the purpose of being used within this reality construct matrix that we have created with our minds.

It actually helps hold it together.bigsmile


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Sun 06/16/13 11:17 AM
There is an objective reality that is whether you believe in it or not. The irrationals try to twist the natural world into their own social construct so they will use phrases like, "well, that's your opinion" when you are in fact stating an objective fact. Of course they are those people who create for themselves a little illusion of the world in their head. They will have a complex ideology and a dogmatic belief in it to make it appear real. They will scream and shout and be angry with anyone who threatens their view and they will resort to tactics like censorship and slander to silence those who speak an objective truth. Often large groups of such people will come together is a communal delusion.

RKISIT's photo
Sun 06/16/13 11:37 AM



The fact that nothing does not exist, and zero does not really exist either, (its not a number, as it represents something that cannot exist) ---proves that time and space do not actually exist.

This is already a singularity.

This reality is an illusion. Do the math. There is your proof.

Consciousness is all that exists and consciousness creates this illusion that we insist is "real."

But I guess if we want to call it real, we certainly have the power to do that. Its our illusion after all.





Yeah well theres also the vibrational interpretation where everything is nothing but waves and vibrations of energy that our senses can interpret what is observed through the brain.
Anyways the zero i'm referring to means all the laws of physics have ended.


Exactly.

Which they will, when we discover the true nature of "reality."
But for now, the laws of physics are for the purpose of being used within this reality construct matrix that we have created with our minds.

It actually helps hold it together.bigsmile



I don't really agree with vibrational interpretations that was actually sarcasm.Although if a cherry picked it enough i'm sure there would be something in it that has validity

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Sun 06/16/13 11:37 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 06/16/13 11:39 AM

There is an objective reality that is whether you believe in it or not. The irrationals try to twist the natural world into their own social construct so they will use phrases like, "well, that's your opinion" when you are in fact stating an objective fact. Of course they are those people who create for themselves a little illusion of the world in their head. They will have a complex ideology and a dogmatic belief in it to make it appear real. They will scream and shout and be angry with anyone who threatens their view and they will resort to tactics like censorship and slander to silence those who speak an objective truth. Often large groups of such people will come together is a communal delusion.


I believe that we believe that there is an objective reality. It certainly seems real.

I also believe that "belief" and conscious collective "agreement" are the threads that hold this "objective" reality together.

It is "objective" because we agree it exists. It is "real" because we say it is.

However, quantum FACTS say otherwise.

Oh well.laugh






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Sun 06/16/13 11:42 AM

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Sun 06/16/13 11:42 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 06/16/13 11:43 AM




The fact that nothing does not exist, and zero does not really exist either, (its not a number, as it represents something that cannot exist) ---proves that time and space do not actually exist.

This is already a singularity.

This reality is an illusion. Do the math. There is your proof.

Consciousness is all that exists and consciousness creates this illusion that we insist is "real."

But I guess if we want to call it real, we certainly have the power to do that. Its our illusion after all.





Yeah well theres also the vibrational interpretation where everything is nothing but waves and vibrations of energy that our senses can interpret what is observed through the brain.
Anyways the zero i'm referring to means all the laws of physics have ended.


Exactly.

Which they will, when we discover the true nature of "reality."
But for now, the laws of physics are for the purpose of being used within this reality construct matrix that we have created with our minds.

It actually helps hold it together.bigsmile



I don't really agree with vibrational interpretations that was actually sarcasm.Although if a cherry picked it enough i'm sure there would be something in it that has validity



Sarcasm? Really?

Okay.

Doesn't quantum science state that everything we see and experience is simply interpretations of vibrations and light?

Doesn't every object in existence vibrate? Isn't light and sound a vibration? Can you name one thing that does not vibrate?


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Sun 06/16/13 11:46 AM
There is scientific evidence that this reality is digital and holographic in nature. We live in a universe of light and sound and other vibrations.

Is it real? Yes it is. We just don't know the true nature of its construction.

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Sun 06/16/13 11:47 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sun 06/16/13 11:48 AM
laugh

It's them damn Tachyons!

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Sun 06/16/13 11:52 AM

laugh

It's them damn Tachyons!



I use those tachyons.

I have a tachyon field generator.
I wear it around my neck to protect me against negative thought forms.

laugh laugh

People ask me "What is that?"

I tell them, "Its a tachyon field generator."

They then ask, (and I love this one) "What does it do?"

A say, "It generates a tachyon field."

rofl rofl rofl rofl

I love the look on their faces. Its just .. blank. rofl

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Sun 06/16/13 12:02 PM
Edited by dovebear on Sun 06/16/13 12:06 PM
Consciousness is the substance of the Universe. The physical Universe exists within the conscious Universe. Look at it like this, time is consciousness. Time derives from our memory, we remember what just happened, we see what is happening and we can predict what will happen. But the only real time is the moment you are in, right now. past and future are illusions, They do not exist. We have the power to speed up the perception of time and the power to slow it down. Any athlete will tell you when they are in "the zone" time can slow down and they can see things move in slow motion. The opposite is true, If you get Knocked out by falling out of a tree, time will fly by in an instant till you awaken. Now imagine you take consciousness out of the universe. It would be like knocking the universe out. It has nothing to be relative too. No reference point, nothing to observe it, nothing to experience it. Time would move infinitely fast and the universe would revert to being a singularity. (All space and time all at once) it is consciousness that divides the universe into its segments of time. It is consciousness that exists at any giving space and time period of the universe but as far as the physical universe is concerned it is a singularity. It is life itself that splits the universe up and creates the space we live in right now.

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Sun 06/16/13 12:05 PM

Consciousness is the substance of the Universe. The physical Universe exists within the conscious Universe. Look at it like this, time is consciousness. Time derives from our memory, we remember what just happened, we see what is happening and we can predict what will happen. But the only real time is the moment you are in, right now. past and future are illusions, They do not exist. We have the power to speed up the perception of time and the power to slow it down. Any athlete will tell you when they are in "the zone" time can slow down and they can see things move in slow motion. The opposite is true, If you get Knocked out by falling out of a tree, time will fly by in an instant till you awaken. Now imagine you take consciousness out of the universe. It would be like knocking the universe out. It has nothing to be relative too. No reference point, nothing to observe it, nothing to experience it. Time would move infinitely fast and the universe would revert to being a singularity. (All space and time all at once) it is consciousness that divides the universe into its segments of time. It is consciousness that exists at any giving space and time period of the universe but as far as the physical universe is concerned it is a singularity. It is life itself that splits the universe up and creates space itself.



drinker drinker :banana: :banana:

YOU NAILED IT DOVEBEAR!

(I've been trying to get this across for years, but no one comprehends it.)

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Sun 06/16/13 12:21 PM
Edited by dovebear on Sun 06/16/13 12:22 PM
The proof is in the pudding. Here is a theoretical experiment. Take a rock and throw it off the empire state. have a person at the bottom of the building doing yoga and meditation. He is calm and one with his center. He sees you throw the rock and it appears to hit the ground at a very normal pace. Now have a guy sit next time him, but he is sitting on hot coals, his heads in a vice and hes being poked by hundreds of sharp objects. He sees you throw the rock and it sure takes a damn long time to reach the bottom.

So what is the speed of light? However fast you are observing it. Ever wonder why Einstein made the speed of light "c" Well they say it comes from the Latin word celeritus, But I like to look at it as "c" for consciousness

E=mc2

:D

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Sun 06/16/13 05:43 PM

The proof is in the pudding. Here is a theoretical experiment. Take a rock and throw it off the empire state. have a person at the bottom of the building doing yoga and meditation. He is calm and one with his center. He sees you throw the rock and it appears to hit the ground at a very normal pace. Now have a guy sit next time him, but he is sitting on hot coals, his heads in a vice and hes being poked by hundreds of sharp objects. He sees you throw the rock and it sure takes a damn long time to reach the bottom.

So what is the speed of light? However fast you are observing it. Ever wonder why Einstein made the speed of light "c" Well they say it comes from the Latin word celeritus, But I like to look at it as "c" for consciousness

E=mc2

:D



so time is a perspective, nothing else... there is no such thing as time, but how we perceive it to be... time is an invention that makes the day go by....

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Mon 06/17/13 05:42 AM
Edited by RKISIT on Mon 06/17/13 05:47 AM

Consciousness is the substance of the Universe. The physical Universe exists within the conscious Universe. Look at it like this, time is consciousness. Time derives from our memory, we remember what just happened, we see what is happening and we can predict what will happen. But the only real time is the moment you are in, right now. past and future are illusions, They do not exist. We have the power to speed up the perception of time and the power to slow it down. Any athlete will tell you when they are in "the zone" time can slow down and they can see things move in slow motion. The opposite is true, If you get Knocked out by falling out of a tree, time will fly by in an instant till you awaken. Now imagine you take consciousness out of the universe. It would be like knocking the universe out. It has nothing to be relative too. No reference point, nothing to observe it, nothing to experience it. Time would move infinitely fast and the universe would revert to being a singularity. (All space and time all at once) it is consciousness that divides the universe into its segments of time. It is consciousness that exists at any giving space and time period of the universe but as far as the physical universe is concerned it is a singularity. It is life itself that splits the universe up and creates the space we live in right now.

The function of science is to describe how nature operates on a mechanical level. Why IS the sky blue? Why DOES the rain fall? A scientific explanation will explore the nuts and bolts of the question without invoking unsupported god-from-the-machine stories to set everything right. So when the mystic or the theist demands to know how science accounts for this or that, and then proffers his mysticism as an answer worthy of equal consideration, the mystic engages in both a bate-and-switch and a logical fallacy. The bait-and-switch where the mystic demands a mechanical explanation from science and then proffers a non-mechanical 'solution' to fill the gaps, and a logical fallacy because it does not follow that ignorance is evidence for mysticism (or the gods).

You can not argue that BECAUSE we do not know therefore we DO know the answer -its a God, Cosmic Consciousness or insert your favorite fantasy here. Mysticism, Creationism, Theism, The Matrix or the gods do not win by default. They must stand on their own evidential feet, and ignorance by science is not evidence for any of these. Mystic oranges are not equivalent to Newton's apples, regardless of what the new-age gurus pretend. So believe in mysticism if you wish, just know where to draw the line understand why science and mysticism are not the same.

dovebear's photo
Mon 06/17/13 06:47 AM


Consciousness is the substance of the Universe. The physical Universe exists within the conscious Universe. Look at it like this, time is consciousness. Time derives from our memory, we remember what just happened, we see what is happening and we can predict what will happen. But the only real time is the moment you are in, right now. past and future are illusions, They do not exist. We have the power to speed up the perception of time and the power to slow it down. Any athlete will tell you when they are in "the zone" time can slow down and they can see things move in slow motion. The opposite is true, If you get Knocked out by falling out of a tree, time will fly by in an instant till you awaken. Now imagine you take consciousness out of the universe. It would be like knocking the universe out. It has nothing to be relative too. No reference point, nothing to observe it, nothing to experience it. Time would move infinitely fast and the universe would revert to being a singularity. (All space and time all at once) it is consciousness that divides the universe into its segments of time. It is consciousness that exists at any giving space and time period of the universe but as far as the physical universe is concerned it is a singularity. It is life itself that splits the universe up and creates the space we live in right now.

The function of science is to describe how nature operates on a mechanical level. Why IS the sky blue? Why DOES the rain fall? A scientific explanation will explore the nuts and bolts of the question without invoking unsupported god-from-the-machine stories to set everything right. So when the mystic or the theist demands to know how science accounts for this or that, and then proffers his mysticism as an answer worthy of equal consideration, the mystic engages in both a bate-and-switch and a logical fallacy. The bait-and-switch where the mystic demands a mechanical explanation from science and then proffers a non-mechanical 'solution' to fill the gaps, and a logical fallacy because it does not follow that ignorance is evidence for mysticism (or the gods).

You can not argue that BECAUSE we do not know therefore we DO know the answer -its a God, Cosmic Consciousness or insert your favorite fantasy here. Mysticism, Creationism, Theism, The Matrix or the gods do not win by default. They must stand on their own evidential feet, and ignorance by science is not evidence for any of these. Mystic oranges are not equivalent to Newton's apples, regardless of what the new-age gurus pretend. So believe in mysticism if you wish, just know where to draw the line understand why science and mysticism are not the same.


You completely missed my point, What I am saying is consciousness can be measured. And the source of this measurement is related closely to time. (if not time itself) SO no I am not offering any mysticism or god explanation and nor have I ever mentioned god. I'm saying consciousness has been the elusive variable that scientists for a long time could not fit in to their equations. But finally in recent years, with the advancement of Quantum mechanics, scientists now understand the importance of consciousness and how the mere act of observing greatly transforms the matter and energy around us. Quantum Entanglement is yet another proof that all things are connected on a deep intrinsic level. SO I CAN argue this point because WE DO have so much evidence that the source of the universe is in fact consciousness. Every great scientist will not deny this. It just takes a level of thinking that differs from common knowledge of what "layman's" think the substance of time and matter truly is. I have a very valid argument. Yes it may seem "Mystical" to you, because anything people do not understand they label it as "mystical" But there is real science supporting it and real Math involved in the study of consciousness and the true substance of the universe.


RKISIT's photo
Mon 06/17/13 07:54 AM



Consciousness is the substance of the Universe. The physical Universe exists within the conscious Universe. Look at it like this, time is consciousness. Time derives from our memory, we remember what just happened, we see what is happening and we can predict what will happen. But the only real time is the moment you are in, right now. past and future are illusions, They do not exist. We have the power to speed up the perception of time and the power to slow it down. Any athlete will tell you when they are in "the zone" time can slow down and they can see things move in slow motion. The opposite is true, If you get Knocked out by falling out of a tree, time will fly by in an instant till you awaken. Now imagine you take consciousness out of the universe. It would be like knocking the universe out. It has nothing to be relative too. No reference point, nothing to observe it, nothing to experience it. Time would move infinitely fast and the universe would revert to being a singularity. (All space and time all at once) it is consciousness that divides the universe into its segments of time. It is consciousness that exists at any giving space and time period of the universe but as far as the physical universe is concerned it is a singularity. It is life itself that splits the universe up and creates the space we live in right now.

The function of science is to describe how nature operates on a mechanical level. Why IS the sky blue? Why DOES the rain fall? A scientific explanation will explore the nuts and bolts of the question without invoking unsupported god-from-the-machine stories to set everything right. So when the mystic or the theist demands to know how science accounts for this or that, and then proffers his mysticism as an answer worthy of equal consideration, the mystic engages in both a bate-and-switch and a logical fallacy. The bait-and-switch where the mystic demands a mechanical explanation from science and then proffers a non-mechanical 'solution' to fill the gaps, and a logical fallacy because it does not follow that ignorance is evidence for mysticism (or the gods).

You can not argue that BECAUSE we do not know therefore we DO know the answer -its a God, Cosmic Consciousness or insert your favorite fantasy here. Mysticism, Creationism, Theism, The Matrix or the gods do not win by default. They must stand on their own evidential feet, and ignorance by science is not evidence for any of these. Mystic oranges are not equivalent to Newton's apples, regardless of what the new-age gurus pretend. So believe in mysticism if you wish, just know where to draw the line understand why science and mysticism are not the same.


You completely missed my point, What I am saying is consciousness can be measured. And the source of this measurement is related closely to time. (if not time itself) SO no I am not offering any mysticism or god explanation and nor have I ever mentioned god. I'm saying consciousness has been the elusive variable that scientists for a long time could not fit in to their equations. But finally in recent years, with the advancement of Quantum mechanics, scientists now understand the importance of consciousness and how the mere act of observing greatly transforms the matter and energy around us. Quantum Entanglement is yet another proof that all things are connected on a deep intrinsic level. SO I CAN argue this point because WE DO have so much evidence that the source of the universe is in fact consciousness. Every great scientist will not deny this. It just takes a level of thinking that differs from common knowledge of what "layman's" think the substance of time and matter truly is. I have a very valid argument. Yes it may seem "Mystical" to you, because anything people do not understand they label it as "mystical" But there is real science supporting it and real Math involved in the study of consciousness and the true substance of the universe.



You're missing my point also,how can consciousness exist without a brain?Yes it could be possible for our brains to have somehow be part of the universe cause we are made up of compounds that exist in the universe.Though without a brain does consciousness still exist?That can't be proven,for that matter science really can't prove YET what consciousness is.
Layman terms isn't how i see it the fact is consciousness can't be proven to exist without a brain.As evolution of humans began from a common descent which is proven so did encephalization which has a lot to do with consciousness.
Is consciousness just simply the human brain at work being aware or is it more than that?No one really knows yet.


Conrad_73's photo
Mon 06/17/13 08:01 AM




Consciousness is the substance of the Universe. The physical Universe exists within the conscious Universe. Look at it like this, time is consciousness. Time derives from our memory, we remember what just happened, we see what is happening and we can predict what will happen. But the only real time is the moment you are in, right now. past and future are illusions, They do not exist. We have the power to speed up the perception of time and the power to slow it down. Any athlete will tell you when they are in "the zone" time can slow down and they can see things move in slow motion. The opposite is true, If you get Knocked out by falling out of a tree, time will fly by in an instant till you awaken. Now imagine you take consciousness out of the universe. It would be like knocking the universe out. It has nothing to be relative too. No reference point, nothing to observe it, nothing to experience it. Time would move infinitely fast and the universe would revert to being a singularity. (All space and time all at once) it is consciousness that divides the universe into its segments of time. It is consciousness that exists at any giving space and time period of the universe but as far as the physical universe is concerned it is a singularity. It is life itself that splits the universe up and creates the space we live in right now.

The function of science is to describe how nature operates on a mechanical level. Why IS the sky blue? Why DOES the rain fall? A scientific explanation will explore the nuts and bolts of the question without invoking unsupported god-from-the-machine stories to set everything right. So when the mystic or the theist demands to know how science accounts for this or that, and then proffers his mysticism as an answer worthy of equal consideration, the mystic engages in both a bate-and-switch and a logical fallacy. The bait-and-switch where the mystic demands a mechanical explanation from science and then proffers a non-mechanical 'solution' to fill the gaps, and a logical fallacy because it does not follow that ignorance is evidence for mysticism (or the gods).

You can not argue that BECAUSE we do not know therefore we DO know the answer -its a God, Cosmic Consciousness or insert your favorite fantasy here. Mysticism, Creationism, Theism, The Matrix or the gods do not win by default. They must stand on their own evidential feet, and ignorance by science is not evidence for any of these. Mystic oranges are not equivalent to Newton's apples, regardless of what the new-age gurus pretend. So believe in mysticism if you wish, just know where to draw the line understand why science and mysticism are not the same.


You completely missed my point, What I am saying is consciousness can be measured. And the source of this measurement is related closely to time. (if not time itself) SO no I am not offering any mysticism or god explanation and nor have I ever mentioned god. I'm saying consciousness has been the elusive variable that scientists for a long time could not fit in to their equations. But finally in recent years, with the advancement of Quantum mechanics, scientists now understand the importance of consciousness and how the mere act of observing greatly transforms the matter and energy around us. Quantum Entanglement is yet another proof that all things are connected on a deep intrinsic level. SO I CAN argue this point because WE DO have so much evidence that the source of the universe is in fact consciousness. Every great scientist will not deny this. It just takes a level of thinking that differs from common knowledge of what "layman's" think the substance of time and matter truly is. I have a very valid argument. Yes it may seem "Mystical" to you, because anything people do not understand they label it as "mystical" But there is real science supporting it and real Math involved in the study of consciousness and the true substance of the universe.



You're missing my point also,how can consciousness exist without a brain?Yes it could be possible for our brains to have somehow be part of the universe cause we are made up of compounds that exist in the universe.Though without a brain does consciousness still exist?That can't be proven,for that matter science really can't prove YET what consciousness is.
Layman terms isn't how i see it the fact is consciousness can't be proven to exist without a brain.As evolution of humans began from a common descent which is proven so did encephalization which has a lot to do with consciousness.
Is consciousness just simply the human brain at work being aware or is it more than that?No one really knows yet.


Phantom-Brain!


spock :angel:

RKISIT's photo
Mon 06/17/13 08:58 AM





Consciousness is the substance of the Universe. The physical Universe exists within the conscious Universe. Look at it like this, time is consciousness. Time derives from our memory, we remember what just happened, we see what is happening and we can predict what will happen. But the only real time is the moment you are in, right now. past and future are illusions, They do not exist. We have the power to speed up the perception of time and the power to slow it down. Any athlete will tell you when they are in "the zone" time can slow down and they can see things move in slow motion. The opposite is true, If you get Knocked out by falling out of a tree, time will fly by in an instant till you awaken. Now imagine you take consciousness out of the universe. It would be like knocking the universe out. It has nothing to be relative too. No reference point, nothing to observe it, nothing to experience it. Time would move infinitely fast and the universe would revert to being a singularity. (All space and time all at once) it is consciousness that divides the universe into its segments of time. It is consciousness that exists at any giving space and time period of the universe but as far as the physical universe is concerned it is a singularity. It is life itself that splits the universe up and creates the space we live in right now.

The function of science is to describe how nature operates on a mechanical level. Why IS the sky blue? Why DOES the rain fall? A scientific explanation will explore the nuts and bolts of the question without invoking unsupported god-from-the-machine stories to set everything right. So when the mystic or the theist demands to know how science accounts for this or that, and then proffers his mysticism as an answer worthy of equal consideration, the mystic engages in both a bate-and-switch and a logical fallacy. The bait-and-switch where the mystic demands a mechanical explanation from science and then proffers a non-mechanical 'solution' to fill the gaps, and a logical fallacy because it does not follow that ignorance is evidence for mysticism (or the gods).

You can not argue that BECAUSE we do not know therefore we DO know the answer -its a God, Cosmic Consciousness or insert your favorite fantasy here. Mysticism, Creationism, Theism, The Matrix or the gods do not win by default. They must stand on their own evidential feet, and ignorance by science is not evidence for any of these. Mystic oranges are not equivalent to Newton's apples, regardless of what the new-age gurus pretend. So believe in mysticism if you wish, just know where to draw the line understand why science and mysticism are not the same.


You completely missed my point, What I am saying is consciousness can be measured. And the source of this measurement is related closely to time. (if not time itself) SO no I am not offering any mysticism or god explanation and nor have I ever mentioned god. I'm saying consciousness has been the elusive variable that scientists for a long time could not fit in to their equations. But finally in recent years, with the advancement of Quantum mechanics, scientists now understand the importance of consciousness and how the mere act of observing greatly transforms the matter and energy around us. Quantum Entanglement is yet another proof that all things are connected on a deep intrinsic level. SO I CAN argue this point because WE DO have so much evidence that the source of the universe is in fact consciousness. Every great scientist will not deny this. It just takes a level of thinking that differs from common knowledge of what "layman's" think the substance of time and matter truly is. I have a very valid argument. Yes it may seem "Mystical" to you, because anything people do not understand they label it as "mystical" But there is real science supporting it and real Math involved in the study of consciousness and the true substance of the universe.



You're missing my point also,how can consciousness exist without a brain?Yes it could be possible for our brains to have somehow be part of the universe cause we are made up of compounds that exist in the universe.Though without a brain does consciousness still exist?That can't be proven,for that matter science really can't prove YET what consciousness is.
Layman terms isn't how i see it the fact is consciousness can't be proven to exist without a brain.As evolution of humans began from a common descent which is proven so did encephalization which has a lot to do with consciousness.
Is consciousness just simply the human brain at work being aware or is it more than that?No one really knows yet.


Phantom-Brain!


spock :angel:

See me being conscious has allowed me to observe there is a duality in consciousness