Topic: quantom entanglement... faster than light?
RKISIT's photo
Tue 06/18/13 08:53 AM

Someone still has to tell me why Nuclear Power,and all the other Calculations using 186'000miles/sec works!
Frequency to Wavelength uses it,and so do many others!
If the Speed of Light weren't a Constant at least in this Corner of the Universe,none of those Calculations,and therefore not even a simple Radio-Frequency-Oscillator would be possible!

Also if it wasn't possible how does amplitude remain constant

dovebear's photo
Tue 06/18/13 09:01 AM
Edited by dovebear on Tue 06/18/13 09:04 AM

Someone still has to tell me why Nuclear Power,and all the other Calculations using 186'000miles/sec works!
Frequency to Wavelength uses it,and so do many others!
If the Speed of Light weren't a Constant at least in this Corner of the Universe,none of those Calculations,and therefore not even a simple Radio-Frequency-Oscillator would be possible!


Yes speed of light is a constant relative to other light, relative to the ticking of a clock, relative to how long it takes the earth to spin in a day, Relative to how fast atoms decay. What is not a constant is how fast the light moves relative to the conscious observer. We see light traveling at a speed that seems to go at a certain speed. But Imagine you were am extremely small organism who lived on some kind of planet trillions upon trillions of times smaller than an electron. Yes light may appear to travel the speed of light relative to the microscopic organism. But if we were to experience the light at their relative pace, It would appear to be standing still, frozen in time, traveling 1 nano meter per million years. This is why speed of light would not be a constant. Because it will only travel as fast as our consciousness can perceive it.

:D

metalwing's photo
Tue 06/18/13 11:01 AM


Someone still has to tell me why Nuclear Power,and all the other Calculations using 186'000miles/sec works!
Frequency to Wavelength uses it,and so do many others!
If the Speed of Light weren't a Constant at least in this Corner of the Universe,none of those Calculations,and therefore not even a simple Radio-Frequency-Oscillator would be possible!


Yes speed of light is a constant relative to other light, relative to the ticking of a clock, relative to how long it takes the earth to spin in a day, Relative to how fast atoms decay. What is not a constant is how fast the light moves relative to the conscious observer. We see light traveling at a speed that seems to go at a certain speed. But Imagine you were am extremely small organism who lived on some kind of planet trillions upon trillions of times smaller than an electron. Yes light may appear to travel the speed of light relative to the microscopic organism. But if we were to experience the light at their relative pace, It would appear to be standing still, frozen in time, traveling 1 nano meter per million years. This is why speed of light would not be a constant. Because it will only travel as fast as our consciousness can perceive it.

:D


Uh... no it doesn't. It is a constant. It doesn't "appear" to be a constant. It is a constant. That is why "c" is used as a constant in physics calculations.

metalwing's photo
Tue 06/18/13 11:10 AM

Ok im not to hip with physics, but this forum seems cool e=mc2, i thought that was the calculation for the speed of light, 186,000x186,000 im sorry if i am wrong i know the c in the equasion stands for light,just in a different meaning, someone throwme some knowledge lol


The formula is to convert mass into equivalent energy. The formula for kinetic energy is E=MV**2 (or as you have written it E=MV2 for velocity squared.

So if you throw a baseball twice as fast it will hit with four times the energy (2 squared is 4). Einstein realized that if the baseball traveled at the speed of light the baseball would be pure energy so substitute the V for velocity to c for the speed of light and you have the formula for how much energy is contained in any amount of mass.

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 06/18/13 11:44 AM


Someone still has to tell me why Nuclear Power,and all the other Calculations using 186'000miles/sec works!
Frequency to Wavelength uses it,and so do many others!
If the Speed of Light weren't a Constant at least in this Corner of the Universe,none of those Calculations,and therefore not even a simple Radio-Frequency-Oscillator would be possible!

Also if it wasn't possible how does amplitude remain constant
actually it doesn't,it is a Function of the Energy,ie,Voltage/Amperage you put into the System!

no photo
Tue 06/18/13 11:46 AM



Someone still has to tell me why Nuclear Power,and all the other Calculations using 186'000miles/sec works!
Frequency to Wavelength uses it,and so do many others!
If the Speed of Light weren't a Constant at least in this Corner of the Universe,none of those Calculations,and therefore not even a simple Radio-Frequency-Oscillator would be possible!


Yes speed of light is a constant relative to other light, relative to the ticking of a clock, relative to how long it takes the earth to spin in a day, Relative to how fast atoms decay. What is not a constant is how fast the light moves relative to the conscious observer. We see light traveling at a speed that seems to go at a certain speed. But Imagine you were am extremely small organism who lived on some kind of planet trillions upon trillions of times smaller than an electron. Yes light may appear to travel the speed of light relative to the microscopic organism. But if we were to experience the light at their relative pace, It would appear to be standing still, frozen in time, traveling 1 nano meter per million years. This is why speed of light would not be a constant. Because it will only travel as fast as our consciousness can perceive it.

:D


Uh... no it doesn't. It is a constant. It doesn't "appear" to be a constant. It is a constant. That is why "c" is used as a constant in physics calculations.


Yes it is a constant. But the actual nature of light itself, outside of this reality bubble has no "speed." Speed is relative.

If in reality, there is no time, then there is no space. If there is no time and space, there is no matter. If there is no matter then there is nothing for the "speed of light" to be relative to.

Nothing can exist without the observer, consciousness.

Reality is only "real" because we are aware of it. It is real because we experience it. It is real because we say it is real.

Is it real? YES. Because we (consciousness) are real.


RKISIT's photo
Tue 06/18/13 12:18 PM



Someone still has to tell me why Nuclear Power,and all the other Calculations using 186'000miles/sec works!
Frequency to Wavelength uses it,and so do many others!
If the Speed of Light weren't a Constant at least in this Corner of the Universe,none of those Calculations,and therefore not even a simple Radio-Frequency-Oscillator would be possible!

Also if it wasn't possible how does amplitude remain constant
actually it doesn't,it is a Function of the Energy,ie,Voltage/Amperage you put into the System!

ah i see the wavelengths crest and trough measures by the strength of the frequency.More amperage higher the crest and the trough becomes shallower.
So basically amplitude being at a constant would depend on the distance
of transmission

metalwing's photo
Tue 06/18/13 12:56 PM




Someone still has to tell me why Nuclear Power,and all the other Calculations using 186'000miles/sec works!
Frequency to Wavelength uses it,and so do many others!
If the Speed of Light weren't a Constant at least in this Corner of the Universe,none of those Calculations,and therefore not even a simple Radio-Frequency-Oscillator would be possible!

Also if it wasn't possible how does amplitude remain constant
actually it doesn't,it is a Function of the Energy,ie,Voltage/Amperage you put into the System!

ah i see the wavelengths crest and trough measures by the strength of the frequency.More amperage higher the crest and the trough becomes shallower.
So basically amplitude being at a constant would depend on the distance
of transmission


Geez. Amplitude is not a constant and distance has nothing to do with it. Amperage has nothing to do with the crest and the trough, it has to do with the number of electrons having a crest and trough. Frequency has no "strength". It is merely the measure of how quickly the waves are passing.

In light, the shorter the wavelength, the higher the energy carried by the photon. On a "common sense" level, the higher energy the photon, the faster it wants to vibrate.

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 06/18/13 01:06 PM





Someone still has to tell me why Nuclear Power,and all the other Calculations using 186'000miles/sec works!
Frequency to Wavelength uses it,and so do many others!
If the Speed of Light weren't a Constant at least in this Corner of the Universe,none of those Calculations,and therefore not even a simple Radio-Frequency-Oscillator would be possible!

Also if it wasn't possible how does amplitude remain constant
actually it doesn't,it is a Function of the Energy,ie,Voltage/Amperage you put into the System!

ah i see the wavelengths crest and trough measures by the strength of the frequency.More amperage higher the crest and the trough becomes shallower.
So basically amplitude being at a constant would depend on the distance
of transmission


Geez. Amplitude is not a constant and distance has nothing to do with it. Amperage has nothing to do with the crest and the trough, it has to do with the number of electrons having a crest and trough. Frequency has no "strength". It is merely the measure of how quickly the waves are passing.

In light, the shorter the wavelength, the higher the energy carried by the photon. On a "common sense" level, the higher energy the photon, the faster it wants to vibrate.
I think Amplitude is mainly dependent on Voltage.

RKISIT's photo
Tue 06/18/13 01:37 PM
Edited by RKISIT on Tue 06/18/13 02:26 PM





Someone still has to tell me why Nuclear Power,and all the other Calculations using 186'000miles/sec works!
Frequency to Wavelength uses it,and so do many others!
If the Speed of Light weren't a Constant at least in this Corner of the Universe,none of those Calculations,and therefore not even a simple Radio-Frequency-Oscillator would be possible!

Also if it wasn't possible how does amplitude remain constant
actually it doesn't,it is a Function of the Energy,ie,Voltage/Amperage you put into the System!

ah i see the wavelengths crest and trough measures by the strength of the frequency.More amperage higher the crest and the trough becomes shallower.
So basically amplitude being at a constant would depend on the distance
of transmission


Geez. Amplitude is not a constant and distance has nothing to do with it. Amperage has nothing to do with the crest and the trough, it has to do with the number of electrons having a crest and trough. Frequency has no "strength". It is merely the measure of how quickly the waves are passing.

In light, the shorter the wavelength, the higher the energy carried by the photon. On a "common sense" level, the higher energy the photon, the faster it wants to vibrate.

See amplitude is the distance between each crest and trough wavelength metalwing.So i don't see how you figure distance has nothing to do with it.I understand all about particles cause nanostructures,atomic molecular and optic physics is my forte.Anyways
frequency does have strength as long as a wavelength oscillates vertically(MHz).
Now of course you may know more about it than i cause radio waves aren't really in my expertise so i can handle constructive criticism on that subject on the other hand i do know a little bit.

metalwing's photo
Tue 06/18/13 03:34 PM






Someone still has to tell me why Nuclear Power,and all the other Calculations using 186'000miles/sec works!
Frequency to Wavelength uses it,and so do many others!
If the Speed of Light weren't a Constant at least in this Corner of the Universe,none of those Calculations,and therefore not even a simple Radio-Frequency-Oscillator would be possible!

Also if it wasn't possible how does amplitude remain constant
actually it doesn't,it is a Function of the Energy,ie,Voltage/Amperage you put into the System!

ah i see the wavelengths crest and trough measures by the strength of the frequency.More amperage higher the crest and the trough becomes shallower.
So basically amplitude being at a constant would depend on the distance
of transmission


Geez. Amplitude is not a constant and distance has nothing to do with it. Amperage has nothing to do with the crest and the trough, it has to do with the number of electrons having a crest and trough. Frequency has no "strength". It is merely the measure of how quickly the waves are passing.

In light, the shorter the wavelength, the higher the energy carried by the photon. On a "common sense" level, the higher energy the photon, the faster it wants to vibrate.

See amplitude is the distance between each crest and trough wavelength metalwing.So i don't see how you figure distance has nothing to do with it.I understand all about particles cause nanostructures,atomic molecular and optic physics is my forte.Anyways
frequency does have strength as long as a wavelength oscillates vertically(MHz).
Now of course you may know more about it than i cause radio waves aren't really in my expertise so i can handle constructive criticism on that subject on the other hand i do know a little bit.



Amplitude is normal (90 degrees) to the direction of travel so it really doesn't enter the velocity/distance equation. Frequency does so it is directly affected by speed and is defined by the number of waves per unit of time.

In electromagnetism, amperage is the number of waves and has nothing to do with the individual waves. Voltage is the amplitude of the wave and frequency is the "color of light" as it were... even beyond the visible range.

RKISIT's photo
Tue 06/18/13 04:28 PM







Someone still has to tell me why Nuclear Power,and all the other Calculations using 186'000miles/sec works!
Frequency to Wavelength uses it,and so do many others!
If the Speed of Light weren't a Constant at least in this Corner of the Universe,none of those Calculations,and therefore not even a simple Radio-Frequency-Oscillator would be possible!

Also if it wasn't possible how does amplitude remain constant
actually it doesn't,it is a Function of the Energy,ie,Voltage/Amperage you put into the System!

ah i see the wavelengths crest and trough measures by the strength of the frequency.More amperage higher the crest and the trough becomes shallower.
So basically amplitude being at a constant would depend on the distance
of transmission


Geez. Amplitude is not a constant and distance has nothing to do with it. Amperage has nothing to do with the crest and the trough, it has to do with the number of electrons having a crest and trough. Frequency has no "strength". It is merely the measure of how quickly the waves are passing.

In light, the shorter the wavelength, the higher the energy carried by the photon. On a "common sense" level, the higher energy the photon, the faster it wants to vibrate.

See amplitude is the distance between each crest and trough wavelength metalwing.So i don't see how you figure distance has nothing to do with it.I understand all about particles cause nanostructures,atomic molecular and optic physics is my forte.Anyways
frequency does have strength as long as a wavelength oscillates vertically(MHz).
Now of course you may know more about it than i cause radio waves aren't really in my expertise so i can handle constructive criticism on that subject on the other hand i do know a little bit.



Amplitude is normal (90 degrees) to the direction of travel so it really doesn't enter the velocity/distance equation. Frequency does so it is directly affected by speed and is defined by the number of waves per unit of time.

In electromagnetism, amperage is the number of waves and has nothing to do with the individual waves. Voltage is the amplitude of the wave and frequency is the "color of light" as it were... even beyond the visible range.

So in other words amplitude is understood 90 degrees?
Makes no sense because there's is distance between rest and crest and rest and trough which is amplitude.Distance from crest to trough is wave height.
So if amperage is the number of waves and not individual waves doesn't it take individual waves to make a number of waves?

RKISIT's photo
Tue 06/18/13 04:36 PM
Edited by RKISIT on Tue 06/18/13 04:47 PM
metalwing my whole entire point is if a wavelength is constant let's say the planck constant and the amplitude is the distance between rest and crest wouldn't that mean amplitude is constant?
Which you insisted that amplitude isn't constant.

RKISIT's photo
Tue 06/18/13 06:52 PM

metalwing my whole entire point is if a wavelength is constant let's say the planck constant and the amplitude is the distance between rest and crest wouldn't that mean amplitude is constant?
Which you insisted that amplitude isn't constant.

i seen an error i meant to put the word "same" between "the" and "distance"

no photo
Tue 06/18/13 08:23 PM
I can only say that consciousness (awareness and even thought) can somehow control how we perceive events in time. From the observer's perspective (what ever the observer is)time can be (or appear to be) slowed down to almost a stop in a dire emergency and during a split second, you can process information (and thought) as if you had several minutes.

This phenomenon happened to me when I was about to get killed in a automobile accident. I not only 'saw' what was about to unfold, I was "informed" what I needed to do to prevent it. (By my own consciousness. ?)

In short, I had a conversation with myself. This conversation consisted of several visions of the event that was about to unfold within the next second and I became aware exactly of what I must do to prevent it.

The speeding up of conscious thought processing in relation to space-time reality is possible. Consciousness is the key.




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Wed 06/19/13 06:34 PM


metalwing my whole entire point is if a wavelength is constant let's say the planck constant and the amplitude is the distance between rest and crest wouldn't that mean amplitude is constant?
Which you insisted that amplitude isn't constant.

i seen an error i meant to put the word "same" between "the" and "distance"


Wavelengths are not constant. They are whatever you want them to be. "C"(the speed of light) is a constant. An electromagnetic wave can have almost any frequency or amplitude you want from what's possible. One doesn't have anything to do with the other so it could not cause a "constant" to magically appear.

The amplitude of electricity is typically 120 volts but with line loss it drops to 115 or even 110 volts. Much of the rest of the world is 220 volts and it drops with line loss too. The frequency varies from 50 hertz in Europe to 60 hertz in the states strictly as a matter of convenience.

So as you can see, the amplitude drops with anything that bleeds off energy such as resistance.

RKISIT's photo
Thu 06/20/13 07:45 AM
Edited by RKISIT on Thu 06/20/13 07:50 AM



metalwing my whole entire point is if a wavelength is constant let's say the planck constant and the amplitude is the distance between rest and crest wouldn't that mean amplitude is constant?
Which you insisted that amplitude isn't constant.

i seen an error i meant to put the word "same" between "the" and "distance"


Wavelengths are not constant. They are whatever you want them to be. "C"(the speed of light) is a constant. An electromagnetic wave can have almost any frequency or amplitude you want from what's possible. One doesn't have anything to do with the other so it could not cause a "constant" to magically appear.

The amplitude of electricity is typically 120 volts but with line loss it drops to 115 or even 110 volts. Much of the rest of the world is 220 volts and it drops with line loss too. The frequency varies from 50 hertz in Europe to 60 hertz in the states strictly as a matter of convenience.

So as you can see, the amplitude drops with anything that bleeds off energy such as resistance.

You're absolutely right amplitude can't remain constant only if oscillators are used and that would be a fabrication also it's not a guarantee because there are still resistances that can interfere even with an oscillator being used.


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Thu 06/20/13 09:20 AM
Edited by dovebear on Thu 06/20/13 09:22 AM




metalwing my whole entire point is if a wavelength is constant let's say the planck constant and the amplitude is the distance between rest and crest wouldn't that mean amplitude is constant?
Which you insisted that amplitude isn't constant.

i seen an error i meant to put the word "same" between "the" and "distance"


Wavelengths are not constant. They are whatever you want them to be. "C"(the speed of light) is a constant. An electromagnetic wave can have almost any frequency or amplitude you want from what's possible. One doesn't have anything to do with the other so it could not cause a "constant" to magically appear.

The amplitude of electricity is typically 120 volts but with line loss it drops to 115 or even 110 volts. Much of the rest of the world is 220 volts and it drops with line loss too. The frequency varies from 50 hertz in Europe to 60 hertz in the states strictly as a matter of convenience.

So as you can see, the amplitude drops with anything that bleeds off energy such as resistance.

You're absolutely right amplitude can't remain constant only if oscillators are used and that would be a fabrication also it's not a guarantee because there are still resistances that can interfere even with an oscillator being used.





RKISIT, Constants are variables that never change. Examples of some constants would be: speed of light, gravitational constant, the golden ratio, 1.618...., Pi is a constant, Feigenbaum constants are my personal favorite, and so on.

RKISIT's photo
Thu 06/20/13 11:58 AM





metalwing my whole entire point is if a wavelength is constant let's say the planck constant and the amplitude is the distance between rest and crest wouldn't that mean amplitude is constant?
Which you insisted that amplitude isn't constant.

i seen an error i meant to put the word "same" between "the" and "distance"


Wavelengths are not constant. They are whatever you want them to be. "C"(the speed of light) is a constant. An electromagnetic wave can have almost any frequency or amplitude you want from what's possible. One doesn't have anything to do with the other so it could not cause a "constant" to magically appear.


The amplitude of electricity is typically 120 volts but with line loss it drops to 115 or even 110 volts. Much of the rest of the world is 220 volts and it drops with line loss too. The frequency varies from 50 hertz in Europe to 60 hertz in the states strictly as a matter of convenience.

So as you can see, the amplitude drops with anything that bleeds off energy such as resistance.

You're absolutely right amplitude can't remain constant only if oscillators are used and that would be a fabrication also it's not a guarantee because there are still resistances that can interfere even with an oscillator being used.





RKISIT, Constants are variables that never change. Examples of some constants would be: speed of light, gravitational constant, the golden ratio, 1.618...., Pi is a constant, Feigenbaum constants are my personal favorite, and so on.


I know what a constant is.FM radio has constant amplitude and AM doesn't.I was referring more to radio frequency and wavelengths.
Depending on what field(job) you're in,constant amplitude exist it's just the behavior is different.The speed of light versus recycling of photons in an LED.Or polarity in electrical work...etc.
Constants have different meanings depending on what your studies are.

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Thu 06/20/13 02:33 PM






metalwing my whole entire point is if a wavelength is constant let's say the planck constant and the amplitude is the distance between rest and crest wouldn't that mean amplitude is constant?
Which you insisted that amplitude isn't constant.

i seen an error i meant to put the word "same" between "the" and "distance"


Wavelengths are not constant. They are whatever you want them to be. "C"(the speed of light) is a constant. An electromagnetic wave can have almost any frequency or amplitude you want from what's possible. One doesn't have anything to do with the other so it could not cause a "constant" to magically appear.


The amplitude of electricity is typically 120 volts but with line loss it drops to 115 or even 110 volts. Much of the rest of the world is 220 volts and it drops with line loss too. The frequency varies from 50 hertz in Europe to 60 hertz in the states strictly as a matter of convenience.

So as you can see, the amplitude drops with anything that bleeds off energy such as resistance.

You're absolutely right amplitude can't remain constant only if oscillators are used and that would be a fabrication also it's not a guarantee because there are still resistances that can interfere even with an oscillator being used.





RKISIT, Constants are variables that never change. Examples of some constants would be: speed of light, gravitational constant, the golden ratio, 1.618...., Pi is a constant, Feigenbaum constants are my personal favorite, and so on.


I know what a constant is.FM radio has constant amplitude and AM doesn't.I was referring more to radio frequency and wavelengths.
Depending on what field(job) you're in,constant amplitude exist it's just the behavior is different.The speed of light versus recycling of photons in an LED.Or polarity in electrical work...etc.
Constants have different meanings depending on what your studies are.



I see what you mean, you are talking about a continuous wave. So yes, your amplitude will always have the same value starting from zero seconds. You can have a constant amplitude but amplitude is not a constant.