Topic: Father of shot child, heckled by pro gun activists
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Sun 02/03/13 04:39 PM
"Those who are capable of tyranny are capable of perjury to sustain it."

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Sun 02/03/13 04:42 PM
huh

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Sun 02/03/13 04:44 PM
And anything to take the attention away from the death of 20 six year olds, mowed down in their classes and the grief of the father being disrespected by pro gunners who couldn't give a flying phuck about the kids, just hugging their guns.....

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Sun 02/03/13 04:50 PM



Do you even realize that an "assault type weapon" was not used at the school shooting and it was only found in his trunk?

For the ignorant, it won't compute no matter how many time this fact is presented.


Owing to wild speculation, the police released the following statement on the 18th January in order to clarify the types of weapons recovered inside the school.

http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?Q=517284&A=4226


Oddly, there is video of the police saying they found two pistols in the school and a bushmaster in the trunk. The story is fluid.

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Sun 02/03/13 04:52 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 02/03/13 04:53 PM
Okay then, your Lt. J. Paul Vance, Spokesman for The Connecticut State Police is YOUR only source.

But.

The FACT that the Connecticut township Police, Connecticut State Police and the FBI have miserably destroyed and clouded the entire case in Sandy-Hook since the first reports of this crime began coming out. This makes this case more important for the public to concentrate on, rather than less.


Here is an open letter to Lt. Paul Vance who said this:


Open Letter to Lt. J. Paul Vance,
Spokesman for The Connecticut State Police

By Jim Kirwan
12-18-12


This is what Vance said:

“One thing is becoming somewhat of a concern and that is ‘MISINFORMATION’ that’s being posted on social media sites.
It is important to note that we (the royal we) have discussed with federal authorities that these issues are crimes.

They will be investigated statewide and federally and prosecution will take place when people perpetrating this information are identified.

Again: All Information relative to THIS CASE is coming from these microphones and any information coming from other sources cannot be confirmed and in many cases, it’s been found that it’s inaccurate. So that’s the newest twist today ­ that we want to make sure that’s perfectly clear ­ that social media websites that contain information relative to this case are NOT being posted by Connecticut State Police, are NOT being posted by the Newtown Police, are NOT being posted by any authorities in this case.”

(Blocking of evidence is a CRIME in and of itself - k)

“So any of that information and people that are putting that information up there IN ANY MANNER ­ alright ­ that can be construed as a violation of state or federal law, will be prosecuted ­ will be investigated and prosecuted…” (1)

You are out-of-line Lieutenant. The American people are not in boot-camp. You are not our Drill Instructor and we are NOT in the military. You do not get to inform the American public as if we are trainees as to what is and is not part of our lives today. or any other day: But especially not when it comes to your massively flawed “investigation” of the crimes that took place last Friday in Sandy-Hook-Elementary school.

You can read this Open letter to Lt. Paul Vance here:
http://rense.com/general95/oplttrvance.html


You, Lt. Vance, are perhaps the worst possible public-representation of what a public-servant is supposed to stand for. You have NO CREDIBILITY. You stand for nothing but the POLICE-STATE at its most corrupt. How DARE you!

****

So that is YOUR source and what I think of him.





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Sun 02/03/13 04:53 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sun 02/03/13 05:27 PM




Do you even realize that an "assault type weapon" was not used at the school shooting and it was only found in his trunk?

For the ignorant, it won't compute no matter how many time this fact is presented.


Owing to wild speculation, the police released the following statement on the 18th January in order to clarify the types of weapons recovered inside the school.

http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?Q=517284&A=4226


Oddly, there is video of the police saying they found two pistols in the school and a bushmaster in the trunk. The story is fluid.


That is why this statement was released, because of the differing reports floating around. I'd wager the video predates this statement?

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Sun 02/03/13 04:54 PM
There were 11 bullets in one child, 11

No one in their right mind can say that an automatic weapon was not used

I did say right mind though.....

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Sun 02/03/13 04:54 PM

Okay then, your Lt. J. Paul Vance, Spokesman for The Connecticut State Police is YOUR only source.

But.

The FACT that the Connecticut township Police, Connecticut State Police and the FBI have miserably destroyed and clouded the entire case in Sandy-Hook since the first reports of this crime began coming out. This makes this case more important for the public to concentrate on, rather than less.


Here is an open letter to Lt. Paul Vance who said this:


Open Letter to Lt. J. Paul Vance,
Spokesman for The Connecticut State Police

By Jim Kirwan
12-18-12


This is what Vance said:

“One thing is becoming somewhat of a concern and that is ‘MISINFORMATION’ that’s being posted on social media sites.
It is important to note that we (the royal we) have discussed with federal authorities that these issues are crimes.

They will be investigated statewide and federally and prosecution will take place when people perpetrating this information are identified.

Again: All Information relative to THIS CASE is coming from these microphones and any information coming from other sources cannot be confirmed and in many cases, it’s been found that it’s inaccurate. So that’s the newest twist today ­ that we want to make sure that’s perfectly clear ­ that social media websites that contain information relative to this case are NOT being posted by Connecticut State Police, are NOT being posted by the Newtown Police, are NOT being posted by any authorities in this case.”

(Blocking of evidence is a CRIME in and of itself - k)

“So any of that information and people that are putting that information up there IN ANY MANNER ­ alright ­ that can be construed as a violation of state or federal law, will be prosecuted ­ will be investigated and prosecuted…” (1)

You are out-of-line Lieutenant. The American people are not in boot-camp. You are not our Drill Instructor and we are NOT in the military. You do not get to inform the American public as if we are trainees as to what is and is not part of our lives today. or any other day: But especially not when it comes to your massively flawed “investigation” of the crimes that took place last Friday in Sandy-Hook-Elementary school.

You can read this Open letter to Lt. Paul Vance here:
http://rense.com/general95/oplttrvance.html


You, Lt. Vance, are perhaps the worst possible public-representation of what a public-servant is supposed to stand for. You have NO CREDIBILITY. You stand for nothing but the POLICE-STATE at its most corrupt. How DARE you!

****

So that is YOUR source and what I think of him.


:laughing:

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Sun 02/03/13 04:56 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 02/03/13 04:56 PM
Hotrod, your only source is a man who treatens to prosecute anyone who questions the official story, or reports any news about the story that does not agree with his public statements.

This is a man who is drunk with the delusion of power who thinks he can suppress the free press, the social Internet conversations, and free speech.

This is your only source.

HE HAS NO CREDIBILITY AT ALL.


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Sun 02/03/13 04:59 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sun 02/03/13 05:03 PM

Hotrod, your only source is a man who treatens to prosecute anyone who questions the official story, or reports any news about the story that does not agree with his public statements.

This is a man who is drunk with the delusion of power who thinks he can suppress the free press, the social Internet conversations, and free speech.

This is your only source.

HE HAS NO CREDIBILITY AT ALL.




Cool story, Bro'. :laughing: Rense :laughing: :laughing:

The source is actually The State Of Connecticut Department of Emergency Services And Public Protection.

You really believe Vance went through the channels without having his statement approved? :laughing: Whatever!

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Sun 02/03/13 05:03 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 02/03/13 05:04 PM


Hotrod, your only source is a man who treatens to prosecute anyone who questions the official story, or reports any news about the story that does not agree with his public statements.

This is a man who is drunk with the delusion of power who thinks he can suppress the free press, the social Internet conversations, and free speech.

This is your only source.

HE HAS NO CREDIBILITY AT ALL.




Cool story, Bro'. :laughing: Rense :laughing: :laughing:


The story is TRUE. He did threaten to prosecute people who questioned the official (his version) of what happened.

You are not up on the real news much are you?

A guy like that is a power hungry delusional man who thinks he can arrest and prosecute people for speaking their minds! That is just ignorance of the law. (And he is supposed to be a law man??)

It is ridiculous. And he can't even get his own stories about what happened strait.

He is has no credibility.

But YOU will believe what ever and whom ever YOU choose to believe.


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Sun 02/03/13 05:07 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 02/03/13 05:09 PM
The source is actually The State Of Connecticut Department of Emergency Services And Public Protection.

You really believe Vance went through the channels without having his statement approved? Whatever!


Oh wow... what an impressive name for a 'source." laugh
I'm soooo impressed.ohwell

There is always ONE person at where the buck stops. It is HIM.

You can call the source by a long and impressive name if you want, that does not change a damn thing. It does not impress me either.

It was he who issued the threats to investigate and prosecute people who are practicing their free speech and asking questions about Sandy Hood.

He is an idiot!


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Sun 02/03/13 05:08 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sun 02/03/13 05:22 PM

The story is TRUE. He did threaten to prosecute people who questioned the official (his version) of what happened.


That's not exactly correct. He is accused of threatening prosecution for the spread of misinformation. You have to remember that he is hoping for the selection of a jury that won't jeopardise the prosecution of Adam Lanza.

You are not up on the real news much are you?


More than you could possibly imagine. I've been discussing Sandy Hook and the investigation on other sites for over a week now. I doubt you can show me anything I haven't seen already.

A guy like that is a power hungry delusional man who thinks he can arrest and prosecute people for speaking their minds?

It is ridiculous. And he can't even get his own stories about what happened strait.


I see you've offered no evidence again. How odd. It's 'straiGHt' btw.

He is has no credibility.


And you do, I suppose?

But YOU will believe what ever and whom ever YOU choose to believe.


You mean a police statement over the musings of some woman on the internet with a penchant for whacko theories? Yes, I will.

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Sun 02/03/13 05:10 PM
God created man, Sam Colt made them equal.

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Sun 02/03/13 05:13 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sun 02/03/13 05:26 PM
The source is actually The State Of Connecticut Department of Emergency Services And Public Protection.

You really believe Vance went through the channels without having his statement approved? Whatever!


Oh wow... what an impressive name for a 'source." laugh
I'm soooo impressed.ohwell

There is always ONE person at where the buck stops. It is HIM.

You can call the source by a long and impressive name if you want, that does not change a damn thing. It does not impress me either.


Cherry-picking again.slaphead I see you avoided the point.

It was he who issued the threats to investigate and prosecute people who are practicing their free speech and asking questions about Sandy Hood.

He is an idiot!


I suppose you believe your spin.

:laughing:

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Sun 02/03/13 05:14 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 02/03/13 05:16 PM
He did threaten to prosecute people who questioned the official (his version) of what happened.

That's not exactly correct. He threatened prosecution for the spread of misinformation.



Spreading 'misinformation' is not a crime, and anyway who decides what is "misinformation?"

He was very clear. Anything that did not come from or agree with him and only him qualifies as "misinformation."

And He spread a bit of misinformation himself, and the story kept changing...

His delusions of power and authority over the free press (and the internet) and freedom of speech (that includes any and all information even misinformation) are absurd.

Don't you people in Australia have freedom of speech?


laugh laugh

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Sun 02/03/13 05:15 PM
Edited by willowdraga on Sun 02/03/13 05:21 PM
@ ENK Not true but good ole philosophy none the less...

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Sun 02/03/13 05:18 PM

He did threaten to prosecute people who questioned the official (his version) of what happened.

That's not exactly correct. He threatened prosecution for the spread of misinformation.



Spreading 'misinformation' is not a crime, and anyway who decides what is "misinformation?"

He was very clear. Anything that did not come from or agree with him and only him qualifies as "misinformation."

And He spread a bit of misinformation himself, and the story kept changing...

His delusions of power and authority over the free press (and the internet) and freedom of speech (that includes any and all information even misinformation) are absurd.

Don't you people in Australia have freedom of speech?


laugh laugh


Spin on JB.

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Sun 02/03/13 05:29 PM


He did threaten to prosecute people who questioned the official (his version) of what happened.

That's not exactly correct. He threatened prosecution for the spread of misinformation.



Spreading 'misinformation' is not a crime, and anyway who decides what is "misinformation?"

He was very clear. Anything that did not come from or agree with him and only him qualifies as "misinformation."

And He spread a bit of misinformation himself, and the story kept changing...

His delusions of power and authority over the free press (and the internet) and freedom of speech (that includes any and all information even misinformation) are absurd.

Don't you people in Australia have freedom of speech?


laugh laugh


Spin on JB.


See you have no argument against logic and truth. laugh

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Sun 02/03/13 05:33 PM

@ ENK Not true but good ole philosophy none the less...


Do you watch TV? They got this show, "Hell on Wheels". It's pretty good.