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Topic: --- Is God real? ---
CowboyGH's photo
Sun 10/28/12 01:33 PM


Why you try to slander people? I tell no lies. Me having marked "Christianity" is not lying. This is a secular site, and in secular terms my beliefs are of the Christian faith. I follow no religion, I follow Jesus Christ. And in secular terms again, that is considered Christian. So to make a better chance of possibly finding a matching woman, I have to check Christian so they will know where I stand in that area.


so you just have a fetish for Christian women and that's why you checked the box that you were Christian

I bet it's the fact that they are commanded to Love you which entices you to them


No fetish, what are you talking about Funches? lol. You make alot of sexual insinuations through out our discussions.

If the topic comes up between a woman and I, I would be glad to tell her nothing sexual will happen. I don't want a woman for that.

Is that the reason you're here or something? Or else why make such assumptions or why'd you think of such a thing?

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Sun 10/28/12 02:06 PM

Is that the reason you're here or something? Or else why make such assumptions or why'd you think of such a thing?


aren't you the one that stated that you checked the Christian box to make a better chance of possibly finding a matching woman

isn't that deceptive since you aren't a Christian






CowboyGH's photo
Sun 10/28/12 02:14 PM


Is that the reason you're here or something? Or else why make such assumptions or why'd you think of such a thing?


aren't you the one that stated that you checked the Christian box to make a better chance of possibly finding a matching woman

isn't that deceptive since you aren't a Christian








That was the closest choice, so not lying. There is no choice for "follower of Jesus Christ".

If they care to know, they can ask, and I will explain. And in secular terms AGAIN, I am a Christian. Sorry, forgot I have to explain things to you over and over and over, one time of saying isn't good enough for you.

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Sun 10/28/12 03:32 PM

That was the closest choice, so not lying. There is no choice for "follower of Jesus Christ".


yes there is...it's called Christian



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Sun 10/28/12 03:35 PM

If they care to know, they can ask, and I will explain.


if the flies care to know that it's a web, they can ask, and the spider will explain

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Sun 10/28/12 03:41 PM

And in secular terms AGAIN, I am a Christian.


so am I, and I don't have to lie on my profile page to meet Christian women

LisaVa's photo
Sun 10/28/12 04:09 PM
no, no god exists. if you need to blame/credit, however, god sure sounds like a common target.

"We are all atheists about most of the gods humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further."
- Richard Dawkins (1941-)

Kitsune67's photo
Mon 10/29/12 07:23 AM
I personally believe that there is a higher being than ourselves but one that does not seek worship or force laws on our society that ultimately leads to sexism, racism or discrimination against gender preference.

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Tue 10/30/12 07:32 AM
I once designed my own "god"

It's a male god. If you pick up your phone and whisper sweet nothings into the phone, he gives you free phone service.


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Tue 10/30/12 07:23 PM
Let me QUOTE JESUS...........MATTHEW 24:35 – Heaven and earth shall PASS AWAY, but my words shall not pass away.

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Tue 10/30/12 07:49 PM
Edited by estell on Tue 10/30/12 07:51 PM
Gods word is spiritual and prophetic and parabolic and allegorical using paralellisms in figurative metaphors that only Gods people understand....The spiritual Followers of Jesus Christ

only the people walking in the Light can feed the bible

it is impossible to feed it without being spiritually a part of it


The words gentile and Christian not interchangable

Gentile = heathen

so non who are heathen follow Christ

Go not in the way of the Gentiles

once u become Christian u are no longer heathen then you are no longer gentile

only trying to show you that if your not Christian how can you feed the bible?



Jesus is a spirit not book

he is written in a book that devils have tried to mutalate 2000 yrs

so the devils have good reason to be mad at him

Jesus was of the Tribe of Judah............who brought forth the gospel

Jesus is king of all israel ( not that physical land ) the only true God

The rest of the so called gods are fallen evils

Nephilim are not men

and they have no resurrection

they are brute beast meant to be destroyed

and whoever are linked inside those people are wicked spiritually and physically

God gave a good command

when he sent out the death sentence

for he had did before at the flood

and he will do again

No where did it say angels mated
it said they {Made} daughters and sons














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Tue 10/30/12 08:00 PM
" But as many as received Him, He gave to them authority to become the children of God, to those who believe on His name, who were born, not of bloods, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but were born of God....



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Sat 11/03/12 12:15 PM
Edited by estell on Sat 11/03/12 12:18 PM
What happen to the topic is God real ?

For centuries the Aztecs, Africans, Chinese, Japanese, Europeans, Hindus, Egyptians, Babylonians have ALL stated.....gods descended from the skies and gave them advanced technology

Egypt is a typical example of this.......these gods were in fact fallen angels created by the God of Abraham


Serpent Worship was universal........and the bible states SATAN is a giant red 7 headed serpent


if Serpent worship was universal and Satan is a serpent.......pagan cultures proved God's existence and God is REAL by creating the creations rather than the creator



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Sat 11/03/12 12:22 PM

So, is God real? Which god are we talking about? What moves you to believe so?







For centuries pagan cultures have worshipped the serpent

For centuries the Aztecs, Africans, Chinese, Japanese, Europeans, Hindus, Egyptians, Babylonians have ALL stated.....gods descended from the skies and gave them advanced technology

Egypt is a typical example of this.......these gods were in fact fallen angels created by the God of Abraham

Serpent Worship was universal........and the bible states SATAN is a giant red 7 headed serpent

if Serpent worship was universal and Satan is a serpent.......pagan cultures PROVES God's existence by creating the creations rather than the creator


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Sat 11/03/12 12:34 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demiurge

http://www.sullivan-county.com/id2/gnostic_files/demiurge.htm

What is Gnostic Demiurge?

The term Demiurge derives from the ancient Greek "démiourgos" (latinized demiurgus), meaning "artisan" or "craftsman". In various belief systems this is a deity responsible for the creation of the physical universe. The term occurs most notably Platonism and Gnosticism. The precise nature and character of the Demiurge however varies from a benign architect of matter in some, to the personification of evil in others.

Plato refers to the Demiurge frequently in the Timaeus as the entity who "fashioned and shaped" the material world. Plato describes the Demiurge as unreservedly good and hence desirous of a world as good as possible. The world remains allegedly imperfect because the Demiurge had to work on pre-existing chaotic matter. Christianity and Judaism claim "God" the Creator is good, but Christians claim the soul is corrupt due to the sin of Adam. Gnosticism is another matter.

In Gnosticism the Demiurge (Creator) is by no means all-good, but a bungling and incompetent fool that creates the world as a spiritual prison. Gnosticism also presents a distinction between the highest, unknowable "alien God" and the "creator" of the material - the Demiurge. However, in contrast to Plato, many systems of Gnostic thought present the Demiurge as antagonistic to the will of the Supreme Creator: this sort of Demiurge focus' solely on material reality and on the "sensuous soul". In Gnosticism, the Demiurge is an emanation from a higher, purer aeon.

In this system, the Demiurge is a way to understand the problem of evil, differing sharply from Christianity, which sees the originally good Creation corrupted by created beings (such as the Devil). In Gnosticism the Demiurge created evil as in the Apocryphon of John (in the Nag Hammadi library), the Demiurge has the name "Yaltabaoth". Through arrogance born of stupidity, he proclaims himself as God:

"Now the archon who is weak has three names. The first name is Yaltabaoth, the second is Saklas, and the third is Samael. And he is impious in his arrogance which is in him. For he said, 'I am God and there is no other God beside me,' for he is ignorant of his strength, the place from which he had come."

Yaldabaoth literally means "Child, come hither" in a certain Semitic language. Gnostic myth recounts that Sophia (literally "wisdom", the Demiurge's mother and aspect of the Father) desired to create something apart from the Father to which he did not consent. In this act of separation, she gave birth to the Demiurge and being ashamed of her deed, she wrapped him in a cloud and created a throne for him within it.

The Demiurge did not see her, nor anyone else, and thus concluded that only he himself existed, he did not know the source of his power and did not know that there was someone above him. The myth is full of intricate nuances portraying the first separation which later turned into the entrapment of the divine spark, Sophia, within the human form. This spark is latent until awakened by a call and the knowledge of one as this divine spark is the beginning of restoration of Sophia as well as gnosis.

Saklas means "fool" and Samael literally means "Blind God" or "God of the Blind". It may equate to the Judaic Angel of Death, and corresponds to the folkloric demon of that name.

Yao is alongside Yaldabaoth, the other name most frequently encountered in Gnostic scripture. Yao is the Gnostic pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton (YhWh). Several Gnostic philosophers (notably Marcion of Sinope) and others (such as Maniche) identify the Demiurge as Yahweh, the God of the Old Testament, as the enemy to the God of the New Testament. Still other traditions also equated YhWh with Satan. For example, Catharism apparently inherited their idea of Satan as the creator of the evil world directly or indirectly from Gnosticism. The church declared all these heresies for teaching that all Creation was the work of an evil god.

The concept of an evil or bungling Demiurge who creates the world is completely at odds with Christian theology in which the creation is originally all good and the work of one all-good Creator. It rejects the notion that the Devil or any other being resembling the Demiurge could create the beauty and order in the physical universe, and the writings of early church fathers, beginning with the Apostle Paul specifically condemn Gnosticism as high heresy. Christianity has nothing analogous to an evil Creator god. The nearest Christian equivalent to the Demiurge is Satan, which literally means the "Enemy."

Pagan philosophers in the lineage of Plato also rebuke the Gnostics. This would include Plotinus who, rebuked Gnosticism in the ninth tractate of the second Ennead: "Against Those That Affirm The Creator of The Cosmos and The Cosmos Itself to Be Evil" (generally quoted as "Against The Gnostics"). Being grounded in platonic thought, the Neoplatonists would have rejected the gnostic vilification of Platos's demiurge.

To quote, Emanation is opposed to the Judeo-Christian conception of creation, in which the eternal God makes all from nothing. To explain the relation of a totally transcendent God to a finite and imperfect world, the belief in emanation denies that God directly created the world but maintains rather that the world is the result of a chain of emergence through emanations. From God (the One, or the Absolute), the one prime principle, flows the divine substance; his own substance never lessens.

As the flow proceeds farther from God, however, its divinity steadily decreases. When a stone is dropped into water, the circles ever widening from the point (God) where the stone fell are emanations, becoming fainter and fainter. Emanation never ceases, the whole process moving continuously outward from God. In the 3d cent. A.D., Plotinus and other Neoplatonists developed a clear system of emanation. The Neoplatonists ascribed to Plato an emanative concept in his Idea of the Good as being supreme, the lesser ideas being in some way related to the Idea of the Good.
Ref. Wikipedia.

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Mon 11/26/12 04:05 PM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Mon 11/26/12 04:06 PM

So, is God real? Which god are we talking about? What moves you to believe so?



But without faith it is impossible to please him; for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Hebrews 11: 6

Faith in Jehovah God

In the beginnning God created the heaven and the earth. Genesis 1:1


And the scribe said unto him, well, Master, thou has said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he.
Mark 12:32

It is advisable to read the whole Chapter.



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Mon 11/26/12 06:48 PM
G-d is a concept, by which we measure our pain- John Lennon

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Mon 11/26/12 10:42 PM
Edited by DaySinner on Mon 11/26/12 10:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTHEkzY6yng

looks like a lot of interesting stuff posted here. I need to do some reading.

I can't help but cringe anytime someone talks about believing in a higher power. It is perhaps the furthest thing from being spiritual. Perhaps it is an instinctual need to gain advantage by allying with ultimate power. That's just the way it sounds to me.

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 11/27/12 06:12 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTHEkzY6yng

looks like a lot of interesting stuff posted here. I need to do some reading.

I can't help but cringe anytime someone talks about believing in a higher power. It is perhaps the furthest thing from being spiritual. Perhaps it is an instinctual need to gain advantage by allying with ultimate power. That's just the way it sounds to me.


It's not about "allying" with a higher power. There is no war going on specifically between believers and non believers. We don't believe to gain anything, including an "advantage". We believe because we have felt God, we know God. And wish to rejoice in his glory that he allows us to see/feel.

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Tue 11/27/12 12:50 PM


Free will surely is but not if you are religious because you believe in control of a higher source. So you might say you believe in free will but with any type of control of a higher source there is no free will. So it is hypocrisy.


Incorrect. "Free will" doesn't mean you are to do anything and everything or that you should. Only that you have the ability. Even with there being a God, if people choose not to believe and or not to be obedient they can very well murder, rape, steal, ect, using their free will. Free will means we are not robots, not puppets. We obey and or disobey out of our choice. Actually, boiled down to the bottom, free will is basically choice.



Very True.

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