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navygirl
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I agree especially when you state how people are programmed to be a certain way. I have never been the "cookie cutter" type of gal that most men are looking for. I have been a rebel since I was 11. I knew that children and marriage weren't for me as I knew there was more in life to explore. I also knew at an early age because of my height and my build that men would be and are still intimidated by me as they usually prefer some petite little china doll. I never realized just how insecure men are; that their egos are more fragile than a woman's emotions. Here I thought we were the weaker sex but it turns out; well at least for me; that men are indeed much weaker when it comes to emotions. I find it funny that I was taught that men were the stronger ones that keeps everything together in a crisis but it turns out that I was the one that kept a level head. Do you think that is why men run from me? Is is that I have assumed their "role" so to speak and this emasculates them? I guess it truly is hard to find someone that can go with the flow; that doesn't try to control you; that can accept you for who you are and doesn't feel threatened by your strength or accomplishments. Firstly, I don't see anything less than feminine about your build. You appear to have a very attractive and feminine hip to waist ratio, (just about 1 to 0.7). But I gotta tell ya, the zombie thing ain't doing it me. Secondly, I know of a couple that have been married for about 25 years now. The wife has a similar build to you and is absolutely the more dominant of the pair. But, the man is far from a wuss. He served in the military, worked as a police officer and now owns a private security company and does body guard work for some very famous people when they come to Dallas. In short, he's a bad azz. What you need to ask yourself is what type of man are you attracted to? Do you despise shy guys? Many women do. Sny men are often seen as weak. These are often women that are fighting their own natural, submissive nature. These women want to be strong, but also deeply desire a stronger man that they can respect. Women like this sometimes challenge a man's masculinity. It's almost as if they get in his face and say "you think you're a better man than me? Prove it!" The most confident men will realize they have nothing to prove and just move on. But, submissive men will often love it. I don't mean to say you should change who you are. I'm saying you may want to really think about the kind of man you want and the type of bait you're using to attract him. Thanks for your input. To be honest I am very laid back when it comes to a relationship. I am never in a guy's face but I can't be the damsel in distress either. I normally don't attract shy guys so I don't think that is the problem. As for bait; at my age there is nothing to bait a man with so really what is the point of even trying? Guys my age want a younger and beautiful woman. I can't compete with that and I would only be kidding myself if I thought I could. |
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TexasScoundrel...I deliberately worked on changing my script with men over a period of years...I realized that I was attracting the same type of man over and over again and always wound up in the same "boat."...My "last" husband didn't fit my "old script" but he fit the "new script" I created for myself. And we turned out to be a great match!
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navygirl...You seem like a "go-getter" and a strong and smart and self-reliant woman..And it sounds like you can be very caring and even "nurturing" too...You have so much "going" for you!..It's easy to lump all men (together) in the same "pot" based on what we've experienced in life "so far.".. And I do believe that we all get programmed in varying degrees. So our choices may be limited if we're looking for a non-traditional man...But I believe there are men like this "out there!" I married one of them. And through my life I've encountered some other men like this too...I know it's hard to believe that things will ever be different when we've been "burned" and disappointed over and over again...I've felt this way...And it's fine if you decide to just stay by yourself. But don't "shortchange" yourself just because you got involved with men who weren't a "good match" for you in the past! Okay?...I "kissed" a lot of "frogs" and went through tons of "bad matches" before I found the "right match!"
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I only date shy types, as we have similar traits :)
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navygirl...You seem like a "go-getter" and a strong and smart and self-reliant woman..And it sounds like you can be very caring and even "nurturing" too...You have so much "going" for you!..It's easy to lump all men (together) in the same "pot" based on what we've experienced in life "so far.".. And I do believe that we all get programmed in varying degrees. So our choices may be limited if we're looking for a non-traditional man...But I believe there are men like this "out there!" I married one of them. And through my life I've encountered some other men like this too...I know it's hard to believe that things will ever be different when we've been "burned" and disappointed over and over again...I've felt this way...And it's fine if you decide to just stay by yourself. But don't "shortchange" yourself just because you got involved with men who weren't a "good match" for you in the past! Okay?...I "kissed" a lot of "frogs" and went through tons of "bad matches" before I found the "right match!" Thanks Greeneyes for your words of wisdom. I think you hit the nail on the head about non-traditional men who are not afraid to think outside the box and to step outside the box rather than putting on blinders and accepting roles. These men are rare though and are not the majority sadly. I don't know that I am short changing myself as I no longer feel I have anything to offer in a relationship. I am not a 19 year old girl with great expectations of a happy ending or any type of relationship. I may sound grim but I have to be realistic. We live in a very screwed up world and I can't change it; not even my little corner. |
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navygirl...You seem like a "go-getter" and a strong and smart and self-reliant woman..And it sounds like you can be very caring and even "nurturing" too...You have so much "going" for you!..It's easy to lump all men (together) in the same "pot" based on what we've experienced in life "so far.".. And I do believe that we all get programmed in varying degrees. So our choices may be limited if we're looking for a non-traditional man...But I believe there are men like this "out there!" I married one of them. And through my life I've encountered some other men like this too...I know it's hard to believe that things will ever be different when we've been "burned" and disappointed over and over again...I've felt this way...And it's fine if you decide to just stay by yourself. But don't "shortchange" yourself just because you got involved with men who weren't a "good match" for you in the past! Okay?...I "kissed" a lot of "frogs" and went through tons of "bad matches" before I found the "right match!" Thanks Greeneyes for your words of wisdom. I think you hit the nail on the head about non-traditional men who are not afraid to think outside the box and to step outside the box rather than putting on blinders and accepting roles. These men are rare though and are not the majority sadly. I don't know that I am short changing myself as I no longer feel I have anything to offer in a relationship. I am not a 19 year old girl with great expectations of a happy ending or any type of relationship. I may sound grim but I have to be realistic. We live in a very screwed up world and I can't change it; not even my little corner. |
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Edited by
GreenEyes48
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Sat 10/20/12 07:33 AM
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navygirl...I know I wasn't always a "perfect angel" or "saint" in my past relationships. I made mistakes. And the men I got involved with made mistakes too...But I tend to look back and evaluate all of it by how well we "matched-up!" (Or didn't "match-up" very well!)...I tried to learn from my "wrong choices" in the past...And this gave me a sense of confidence that I could make "better choices" in the future...I developed sort of a "practice makes perfect" type of philosophy...So what if I ended-up with the "wrong men" in the past? I didn't have to declare myself incompetent and a total "failure." Or a "reject" or unlovable etc...I took time out to "regroup" and "rethink" the "script" I'd been playing out with men...I worked hard to change my "script" so I'd attract different type of men in the future.. Doing this gave me a sense of "power" and confidence that spread to other areas of my life too. (Which was nice!)
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navygirl...I know I wasn't always a "perfect angel" or "saint" in my past relationships. I made mistakes. And the men I got involved with made mistakes too...But I tend to look back and evaluate all of it by how well we "matched-up!" (Or didn't "match-up" very well!)...I tried to learn from my "wrong choices" in the past...And this gave me a sense of confidence that I could make "better choices" in the future...I developed sort of a "practice makes perfect" type of philosophy...So what if I ended-up with the "wrong men" in the past? I didn't have to declare myself incompetent and a total "failure." Or a "reject" or unlovable etc...I took time out to "regroup" and "rethink" the "script" I'd been playing out with men...I worked hard to change my "script" so I'd attract different type of men in the future.. Doing this gave me a sense of "power" and confidence that spread to other areas of my life too. (Which was nice!) You are a wise lady and I wish I could be more like you. I have always excelled in everything I done; even been called an over achiever but I can't seem to understand the human relationship. It all seems to contrived to me. Like you say; its a script and I have never been one to follow a script. I have always gone against the grain; sometimes purposely and some times unknowingly. I am an enigma by what my friends say. I often wonder if I was meant to be born a man by the way I think and feel. |
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navygirl...There's a push to put everyone and everything into neat little categories...Supposedly this creates "order." And a sense of "uniformity."...As in: This is the "right way" to do things and the "right way" to "be" and "behave" according to the definition (and specifications) of your gender and species etc...Anything else is considered "deviant" and even "suspect!"...Those who refuse to "fall in line" pose problems for society because their behavior can't be "predicted." Or precisely "defined."...How do you feel about it? It's no fun to be a "clone!" Or confined to a "set role" in life!
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navygirl...There's a push to put everyone and everything into neat little categories...Supposedly this creates "order." And a sense of "uniformity."...As in: This is the "right way" to do things and the "right way" to "be" and "behave" according to the definition (and specifications) of your gender and species etc...Anything else is considered "deviant" and even "suspect!"...Those who refuse to "fall in line" pose problems for society because their behavior can't be "predicted." Or precisely "defined."...How do you feel about it? It's no fun to be a "clone!" Or confined to a "set role" in life! It goes back to what I said earlier about thinking outside the box and not being a "cookie cutter" type of person. I find it funny that everyone seems to know what makes a relationship tick by assuming these roles but no one seems to be able to keep the relationship together. Me, if something doesn't work; then its time time try something new. Me I am glad to be a deviant or suspect because at least I am living my life the way I want to and not by everyone else's standards. Its quite liberating to not be programmed like everyone else. ![]() |
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navygirl...Traditional marriages are based on the notion that 2 "halves" come together to make a "whole." Don't you think?...The husband has been trained and programmed to take on certain "duties" and wives are programmed and trained to take on other "duties."...I've had friends who complained that their husbands never cooked. (Or rarely cooked.)...But if their husbands showed interest in cooking this could lead to conflicts because the women consider the kitchen their "domain" and "territory."...Husbands have their "domains" too. Everyone wraps their identity around their "assigned duties" and "domains." Don't you think...And it's not always easy to "cross-over" and step into someone else's "territory" or "domain."...Most things are "open" and "up for grabs" in non-traditional relationships. (Which is nice!) The emphasis is on "growth" and "expansion." Everyone takes on new "jobs" and challenges all the time. And "crossing-over" is allowed and even encouraged!
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navygirl...Traditional marriages are based on the notion that 2 "halves" come together to make a "whole." Don't you think?...The husband has been trained and programmed to take on certain "duties" and wives are programmed and trained to take on other "duties."...I've had friends who complained that their husbands never cooked. (Or rarely cooked.)...But if their husbands showed interest in cooking this could lead to conflicts because the women consider the kitchen their "domain" and "territory."...Husbands have their "domains" too. Everyone wraps their identity around their "assigned duties" and "domains." Don't you think...And it's not always easy to "cross-over" and step into someone else's "territory" or "domain."...Most things are "open" and "up for grabs" in non-traditional relationships. (Which is nice!) The emphasis is on "growth" and "expansion." Everyone takes on new "jobs" and challenges all the time. And "crossing-over" is allowed and even encouraged! I agree about the crossing over idea as I think that would be ideal. I think it limits a person if they are confined in the roles they were meant to play. I think stepping out of the roles is called growth and much better than being stagnant. Me, I am happy to take out the garbage, shovel the walk, mow the lawn, etc while the guy can cook, sew, or clean house. Makes no difference to me who does what job; just as long as its done. My thoughts are if I learned the jobs that a man does around the home; it would come in handy if say the guy ended the relationship, got injured, or was taken from me. To me; its like a back up plan should some unforeseen circumstance take place and I like to be prepared. I am surprised that people live in the moment and don't try to prepare themselves for the worst but I guess that is just how my brain works. |
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You mean this thread wasn't about one of us being a segret agent and the other the high paid assassin of dr naughty? Damn it! What was I thinking......
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Ok ...umm let's see...
I will be the hispanic martini girl bringing the guacamole to the bedroom. (Ghost..this is where you jump in barefoot please) |
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To be honest I don't mind being tied down or bitten. Role playing is fun especially around halloween time because you can dress up and perform. The last relationship I was in we role played a vampire movie which came down to me being bitten for real lol. But I turned the tables. Sometimes its great for men to be submissive because half of the time the woman is calling the shots anyway whether we know it or not.
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roll play is just another way of experimenting in the taboo and streaching your bioundries wouldn't it be boreing to have the same sex every night for the rest of your life?
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roll play is just another way of experimenting in the taboo and streaching your bioundries wouldn't it be boreing to have the same sex every night for the rest of your life? I don't think this type of role playing is what is meant on this thread; its the gender role playing. |
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I'm still waiting for Ghost to jump in here!! Geeze!
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roll play is just another way of experimenting in the taboo and streaching your bioundries wouldn't it be boreing to have the same sex every night for the rest of your life? I don't think this type of role playing is what is meant on this thread; its the gender role playing. It's not about "playing" at all. We're talking relationships and how people live together. Who's in charge and when? It's my view that good relationships are like dancing, one leads, the other follows. |
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roll play is just another way of experimenting in the taboo and streaching your bioundries wouldn't it be boreing to have the same sex every night for the rest of your life? I don't think this type of role playing is what is meant on this thread; its the gender role playing. It's not about "playing" at all. We're talking relationships and how people live together. Who's in charge and when? It's my view that good relationships are like dancing, one leads, the other follows. |
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