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Topic: NOI Preaches Kill Whitey
alleoops Joined Sat 08/06/11 Posts: 10832	Sat 08/18/12 07:07 PM
History just keeps repeating itself because people are too god damn dense ! ! ! I see far too many racially sensitive people here looking foreword into a mirror looking behind themselves! THAT IS NOT FOREWORD PROGRESS! Again, the worst period of time for the black man was after MLK Jr. was shot down! That one shooting opened the floodgates of hatred and ignorance that people used to make careers on. NO ACT OF GOVERNMENT IS AS BAD AS PEOPLE WHO FAN THE FLAMES OF HATE FROM BEHIND PRINCIPLES AND RELIGION! When people like the Reverends Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton stepped up, when the Black Panthers began their rants of Black Supremacy, when Malcolm X began his crusade of ethnic biased extremism, and Lewis Pharrokahn brought Islam into the main stream is when the ideals of Equality were tossed right out the window with the bath water! How can hate lead to equality? At least Malcolm X had an Epiphany that he had been doing wrong by the black community leading them with hate! But his death was badly timed because he may have had a chance at actual redemption in the eyes of history for his past BAD DEEDS AND PAST RHETORIC! Jessie Jackson is now laying REAL low and trying like hell to keep color out of things but too little too late! For a man of God he spent a lot of time preaching HATE FOR WHITES IN THE NAME OF GOD LIKE AL SHARPTON! Why is it I despise the A and M Baptist Church? If you heard some of the "Blame Whitey Sermons" they have preached even in the recent past you might understand! Much like you cannot as an artist blame the brush you use for your bad work, any black civic leader who spends most of his time telling others how the white man oppresses them is just bringing his own kind down! Even to this day if invited to a meal that included anyone like Al Sharpton or Jessie Jackson I would decline because I would not eat with a person who would make me their enemy sight unseen especially because MY COLOR OFFENDS THEM!!! I have been on the butt end of racial discrimination enough to say it comes from all sides and this constant argument that racism is a tendency and tenant of our government are over educated and completely lack wisdom! You seem to miss the point, racism is a reality of all mankind and at least here in America we ARE DOING MORE THAN MOST NATIONS HAVE EVEN ATTEMPTED IN THE NAME OF HARMONY AMONG ALL MAN KIND! Certain noteworthy opinions here though seem to reflect what is wrong with America. Again you cannot make foreword progress watching a mirror that is looking behind you all the time. You can't see where you are going! CAN I GET AN AMEN HERE?!?!?! AMEN!

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48993	Sat 08/18/12 07:10 PM
As I see it . . . The division of humans into races is the beginning of racism, because racism is the result of dividing humans into races. If you are going to insist that humans be divided into races, then all races are equal, because "race" is a description of a set of physical characteristics, not a description of beliefs or behaviors. A party is innocent of racism until proven guilty. agreed agreed, although races dont share 'equal' experiences diagree, being 'proven' guilty is predated by actually being guilty,,, not the other way around If you want others to believe that someone is guilty of racism, then you have to prove guilt. An accusation of guilt is not in itself proof of guilt.

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Sat 08/18/12 07:10 PM
Just shinin' a light on some of the demons out there who are still practicing hate and teaching their kids how to hate. Nothing has changed in the NOI. They are still the extremists they were when they started up. Much of the hate Wright preaches comes from the NOI. Then, the blind will defend the demon just cuz.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 08/18/12 07:11 PM
As I see it . . . The division of humans into races is the beginning of racism, because racism is the result of dividing humans into races. If you are going to insist that humans be divided into races, then all races are equal, because "race" is a description of a set of physical characteristics, not a description of beliefs or behaviors. A party is innocent of racism until proven guilty. agreed agreed, although races dont share 'equal' experiences diagree, being 'proven' guilty is predated by actually being guilty,,, not the other way around If you want others to believe that someone is guilty of racism, then you have to prove guilt. An accusation of guilt is not in itself proof of guilt. im sure we can both go around for days with semantics an accusation is not proof but guilt is guilt from the moment it is true, not from the moment it is proven the proof is required to FOUND guilty in a court of law, but not to BE guilty of the accusation,,,

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 08/18/12 07:13 PM
Just shinin' a light on some of the demons out there who are still practicing hate and teaching their kids how to hate. Nothing has changed in the NOI. They are still the extremists they were when they started up. Much of the hate Wright preaches comes from the NOI. Then, the blind will defend the demon just cuz. logical can defend positions that are uncomfortable but make sense , as well as blind. The NOI divided because of differences into two seperate groups, so apparently some things did change. The younger farrakhan lead with a more extreme discriminatory philosophy the elder farrakhan has evolved quite a bit and the NOI along with him, to lead with more of a progressive philosophy,,,

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48993	Sat 08/18/12 07:15 PM
As I see it . . . The division of humans into races is the beginning of racism, because racism is the result of dividing humans into races. If you are going to insist that humans be divided into races, then all races are equal, because "race" is a description of a set of physical characteristics, not a description of beliefs or behaviors. A party is innocent of racism until proven guilty. agreed agreed, although races dont share 'equal' experiences diagree, being 'proven' guilty is predated by actually being guilty,,, not the other way around If you want others to believe that someone is guilty of racism, then you have to prove guilt. An accusation of guilt is not in itself proof of guilt. im sure we can both go around for days with semantics an accusation is not proof but guilt is guilt from the moment it is true, not from the moment it is proven the proof is required to FOUND guilty in a court of law, but not to BE guilty of the accusation,,, The one making the accusation has the burden of proof.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 08/18/12 07:16 PM
As I see it . . . The division of humans into races is the beginning of racism, because racism is the result of dividing humans into races. If you are going to insist that humans be divided into races, then all races are equal, because "race" is a description of a set of physical characteristics, not a description of beliefs or behaviors. A party is innocent of racism until proven guilty. agreed agreed, although races dont share 'equal' experiences diagree, being 'proven' guilty is predated by actually being guilty,,, not the other way around If you want others to believe that someone is guilty of racism, then you have to prove guilt. An accusation of guilt is not in itself proof of guilt. im sure we can both go around for days with semantics an accusation is not proof but guilt is guilt from the moment it is true, not from the moment it is proven the proof is required to FOUND guilty in a court of law, but not to BE guilty of the accusation,,, The one making the accusation has the burden of proof. in a court of law but there is a difference between being 'proven' guilty, or proven to have done something and having done something both are different types of 'guilt'

alleoops Joined Sat 08/06/11 Posts: 10832	Sat 08/18/12 07:17 PM
Have any of these jackasses ever seen what whitey can do he's pissed? The devil needs not be pissed to be devilish, our country was built on the premise of racism. Power is like a super nova, as it approaches its demise, it shines the brightests, then dies. As all empires eventually do. Wrong you are Raz. Our country, the United States was built on profit, money that was made with cotton. Slavery was needed to make profit. Purely a financial choice of the time not racial. Many white families shared the same burdens as black families.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 08/18/12 07:19 PM
Have any of these jackasses ever seen what whitey can do he's pissed? The devil needs not be pissed to be devilish, our country was built on the premise of racism. Power is like a super nova, as it approaches its demise, it shines the brightests, then dies. As all empires eventually do. Wrong you are Raz. Our country, the United States was built on profit, money that was made with cotton. Slavery was needed to make profit. Purely a financial choice of the time not racial. Many white families shared the same burdens as black families. why was jim crow needed? why were indentured servants not 'profitable' enough? there is no denying racism as an element, without having to ignore the profit motive AS WELL

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48993	Sat 08/18/12 07:25 PM
A person who is white isn't automatically guilty of racism because that person is white. If all races are equal, then it is possible for a person who is black to be guilty of racism.

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Sat 08/18/12 07:28 PM
Just shinin' a light on some of the demons out there who are still practicing hate and teaching their kids how to hate. Nothing has changed in the NOI. They are still the extremists they were when they started up. Much of the hate Wright preaches comes from the NOI. Then, the blind will defend the demon just cuz. Im sure that the many "demons" teaching hate to their children would indeed appreciate light being shed, however that is not what the kkk, Skinhead nation, Hammerskins, Aryan Brotherhood, Soveregn citizens, white alliance, National Christian Front, Vloks front, American Nazi movement, Texas militia, Michigen militia ect. are looking for. The hate they preach does not come from Wright, it comes from internal hatred for truth, justice and equallity, they need more than a shining light.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 08/18/12 07:28 PM
A person who is white isn't automatically guilty of racism because that person is white. If all races are equal, then it is possible for a person who is black to be guilty of racism. I doubt anyone refutes that

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48993	Sat 08/18/12 07:29 PM
Have any of these jackasses ever seen what whitey can do he's pissed? The devil needs not be pissed to be devilish, our country was built on the premise of racism. Power is like a super nova, as it approaches its demise, it shines the brightests, then dies. As all empires eventually do. Wrong you are Raz. Our country, the United States was built on profit, money that was made with cotton. Slavery was needed to make profit. Purely a financial choice of the time not racial. Many white families shared the same burdens as black families. The southern colonies (now states) were settled by people seeking economic opportunities. The northern colonies (now states) were, in general, settled by people seeking religious and political freedom.

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Sat 08/18/12 07:31 PM
Have any of these jackasses ever seen what whitey can do he's pissed? The devil needs not be pissed to be devilish, our country was built on the premise of racism. Power is like a super nova, as it approaches its demise, it shines the brightests, then dies. As all empires eventually do. Wrong you are Raz. Our country, the United States was built on profit, money that was made with cotton. Slavery was needed to make profit. Purely a financial choice of the time not racial. Many white families shared the same burdens as black families. Now let us compare the burdens.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 08/18/12 07:33 PM
Have any of these jackasses ever seen what whitey can do he's pissed? The devil needs not be pissed to be devilish, our country was built on the premise of racism. Power is like a super nova, as it approaches its demise, it shines the brightests, then dies. As all empires eventually do. Wrong you are Raz. Our country, the United States was built on profit, money that was made with cotton. Slavery was needed to make profit. Purely a financial choice of the time not racial. Many white families shared the same burdens as black families. Now let us compare the burdens. sorry, now thats funny,,,but not as funny as the likely responses,,,

alleoops Joined Sat 08/06/11 Posts: 10832	Sat 08/18/12 07:33 PM Edited by alleoops on Sat 08/18/12 07:36 PM
Have any of these jackasses ever seen what whitey can do he's pissed? The devil needs not be pissed to be devilish, our country was built on the premise of racism. Power is like a super nova, as it approaches its demise, it shines the brightests, then dies. As all empires eventually do. Wrong you are Raz. Our country, the United States was built on profit, money that was made with cotton. Slavery was needed to make profit. Purely a financial choice of the time not racial. Many white families shared the same burdens as black families. Now let us compare the burdens. OMG! here come the farakan bleatings of racist hate.

alleoops Joined Sat 08/06/11 Posts: 10832	Sat 08/18/12 07:35 PM
As I see it . . . The division of humans into races is the beginning of racism, because racism is the result of dividing humans into races. If you are going to insist that humans be divided into races, then all races are equal, because "race" is a description of a set of physical characteristics, not a description of beliefs or behaviors. A party is innocent of racism until proven guilty. agreed agreed, although races dont share 'equal' experiences diagree, being 'proven' guilty is predated by actually being guilty,,, not the other way around If you want others to believe that someone is guilty of racism, then you have to prove guilt. An accusation of guilt is not in itself proof of guilt. im sure we can both go around for days with semantics an accusation is not proof but guilt is guilt from the moment it is true, not from the moment it is proven the proof is required to FOUND guilty in a court of law, but not to BE guilty of the accusation,,, The one making the accusation has the burden of proof. Could you expand on that? Show why the accusation, wrongly or rightly, has to show the burden of proof?

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48993	Sat 08/18/12 07:44 PM
The one making the accusation has the burden of proof. Could you expand on that? Show why the accusation, wrongly or rightly, has to show the burden of proof? If you claim that another person has done something wrong, then I have no reason to believe your claim unless you provide evidence that your claim is true.

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Sat 08/18/12 07:48 PM Edited by Ras427 on Sat 08/18/12 07:54 PM
Have any of these jackasses ever seen what whitey can do he's pissed? The devil needs not be pissed to be devilish, our country was built on the premise of racism. Power is like a super nova, as it approaches its demise, it shines the brightests, then dies. As all empires eventually do. Wrong you are Raz. Our country, the United States was built on profit, money that was made with cotton. Slavery was needed to make profit. Purely a financial choice of the time not racial. Many white families shared the same burdens as black families. Wrong, now let us compare the burdens you claim whites shared. The KKK was the generic name for literally hundreds of White terrorist groups set up to force the ex slave back in "his place" on the plantation picking the commodity at the very center of the world economy, cotton. These KU KLUXERS were not errant outlaws, they comprised WHITE GOVERMENT OFFICIALS, BUSINESSES, AND RELIGIOUS LEADERS. The Klan openly recruited in CHURCHES, and SYNAGOGUES and MASONIC HALLS, and many communities held KU KLUX KLAN country fairs. ARMED, HOODED often by Jewish merchants, THEY BURNT BLACK BUSINESSES, FARMS, SCHOOLS, PROPERTY, AND YES HUMAN BEINGS WRRE BURNED ALIVE, ALL WITH GOVERMENT SANCTION AND PARTICIPATION. My question to you is , what burden are you refering to?

alleoops Joined Sat 08/06/11 Posts: 10832	Sat 08/18/12 07:52 PM
The one making the accusation has the burden of proof. Could you expand on that? Show why the accusation, wrongly or rightly, has to show the burden of proof? If you claim that another person has done something wrong, then I have no reason to believe your claim unless you provide evidence that your claim is true. What if the claim is true but one has no evidence? Does that make it believable and not true?

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