Topic: 9/11 SYNTHETIC TERRORISM<>MADE IN USA
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Sun 07/29/12 01:09 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sun 07/29/12 01:11 PM


May I suggest more research on credible sites?...whoa


See step 1:

From The CT Guide to the Internet Barnes and Boofhead, 2001, p. 146 ff.

Step 1.

Open thread with a imflammatory statement from an questionable source, or a specious youtube clip.


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Sun 07/29/12 01:11 PM




And "talking" and "talking publicly" are two different things.

First, there are tons of people talking about what they know on the Internet and on Youtube etc.

Second, the major media does not talk or report anything they are not instructed to talk about, and they are told what NOT to talk about.




Nothing short of a miracle...Almost 12,000 (or maybe more) keeping their mouth shut all this time....Stunning, amazing!!!...the stuff movies are made of.....


People are easily bribed and frightened.

That's what corporate terrorism is for.


No Jean, they are not...That is a misconception....


I don't think you have numbers for that.

Yes, most people can be bribed or threatened and frightened.
If this were not true, we would not have the corruption that we have in our government.



Optomistic69's photo
Sun 07/29/12 01:13 PM
911 was not done by a handful of Islamic
fanatics.”

They more than like got a little help from some of their friends below

Some dodgy characters in this list.

Elliott Abrams (PNAC)
Ken Adelman
Richard Armitage (PNAC)
John David Ashcroft
Fred Barnes
Gary Bauer
William J. Bennett (PNAC)
Jeffrey Bergner (PNAC)
John Bolton (PNAC)
Max Boot
Ellen Bork
Paul Bremer Lewis Paul "Jerry" Bremer III
David Brooks
Shoshana Bryen
Stephen D. Bryen
Zbigniew Brzezinski
Stephen A. Cambone
Eliot A. Cohen
Midge Decter
Paula J. Dobriansky (PNAC)
Thomas Donnelly
John Doolittle
Douglas Jay Feith
David Frum
Francis Fukuyama (PNAC)
Frank J. Gaffney, Jr. (PNAC)
Reuel Marc Gerecht (PNAC)
Newt Gingrich
Joshua Goldberg
Owen Harries
Bruce P. Jackson
Michael Johns
Robert Kagan (PNAC)
Zalmay Khalilzad (PNAC)
Jeane Kirkpatrick
Henry Kissinger
Neal Kozodoy
Charles Krauthammer
Irving Kristol
William Kristol (PNAC)
Michael Arthur Ledeen
Jay Lefkowitz
I. Lewis Libby a.k.a. "Scooter"
Michael H. Mobbs
Joshua Muravchik
Rupert Murdoch
Richard J. Neuhaus
Michael Novak
Martin Peretz
Richard N. Perle (PNAC)
Daniel Pipes
Norman Podhoretz
Howard Raines
Peter W. Rodman (PNAC)
Karl Rove
Donald H. Rumsfeld (PNAC)
Richard Mellon Scaife
Gary J. Schmitt
William Schneider, Jr. (PNAC)
Abram N. Shulsky
Robert W. Tucker
Harlan Ullman
Vin Weber (PNAC)
Paul Dundes Wolfowitz (PNAC)
R. James Woolsey, Jr. (PNAC)
David Wurmser
Meyrav Wurmser
Dov Zakheim
Karl Zinsmeister
Robert B. Zoellick

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Sun 07/29/12 01:17 PM
Isn't it amazing? With such an elaborate conspiracy needing the co-operation of thousands who've maintained their collective silence for over a decade, that such an obvious trail of evidence was left for a group of dilettantes without any scientific knowledge to expose on less than credible websites.

One thing we can all agree on, that this scenario is ********.

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Sun 07/29/12 01:21 PM
The Illuminati have no creative or imaginative abilities. They always follow the exact same M.O. every time in all of their endeavors. They are as predictable as clock work and easily recognized.

You can always know them by their deeds, and the lies they tell get more and more absurd sounding as people wake up to the truth.


Optomistic69's photo
Sun 07/29/12 01:26 PM
Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda definitely do not have the know how
and the capability to launch such operations involving such high precision coordination, based on information and expertise.

But they knew some people who did have that know-howbigsmile

HotRodDeluxe's photo
Sun 07/29/12 01:30 PM

Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda definitely do not have the know how
and the capability to launch such operations involving such high precision coordination, based on information and expertise.



Definitely? You have conclusive proof of this, or is this merely your opinion?

Optomistic69's photo
Sun 07/29/12 01:36 PM


Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda definitely do not have the know how
and the capability to launch such operations involving such high precision coordination, based on information and expertise.



Definitely? You have conclusive proof of this, or is this merely your opinion?


Osama is Dead and al-Qaeda are all but a figment of imagination.

Next Questionbigsmile

HotRodDeluxe's photo
Sun 07/29/12 01:39 PM

Osama is Dead...


True, proving?

...and al-Qaeda are all but a figment of imagination.



Opinion.

Next.

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Sun 07/29/12 01:41 PM



Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda definitely do not have the know how
and the capability to launch such operations involving such high precision coordination, based on information and expertise.



Definitely? You have conclusive proof of this, or is this merely your opinion?


Osama is Dead and al-Qaeda are all but a figment of imagination.

Next Questionbigsmile


Al Qaeda is a buzz word to egg on this fictitious and endless "war on terror" which can never be won... because Al Qaeda does not exist.

When you hear the press using the term "Al Qaeda" you can be sure that what follows is pure propaganda. But it will also clue you into what the black ops CIA are up to, because not only are they the force behind Al Qaeda, they created it.


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Sun 07/29/12 01:44 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 07/29/12 01:46 PM
Like the non-organization of "anonymous" which is not an organization and does not exist nor does it have any spokesperson, so is the non-organization of Al Qaeda; which does not exist as an organization and has no spokesperson.

Therefore, anyone can claim to be Al Qaeda or anonymous and anyone can be accused of being affiliated with Al Qaeda or anonymous, none of which can be proven because the organizations do not exist.



Bestinshow's photo
Sun 07/29/12 05:20 PM

There is one thing that everybody can agree with and that is...911 was not done by a handful of Islamic
fanatics.”
Certainly not by fanatics who could not fly a Cessna.

My personal theory is they had some rubes set up used drone technology to fly the planes and the reason no "black box" information was released is that the pilots would be screaming how they had no control of the planes.

One does not have to be a card carrying member of the foil hate brigade to have serious doubts about the fact that after both towers had been hit by hijacked planes the airspace over Washington was undefended.

At best it was criminal negligence.


AndyBgood's photo
Sun 07/29/12 09:47 PM

911 was not done by a handful of Islamic
fanatics.”

They more than like got a little help from some of their friends below

Some dodgy characters in this list.

Elliott Abrams (PNAC)
Ken Adelman
Richard Armitage (PNAC)
John David Ashcroft
Fred Barnes
Gary Bauer
William J. Bennett (PNAC)
Jeffrey Bergner (PNAC)
John Bolton (PNAC)
Max Boot
Ellen Bork
Paul Bremer Lewis Paul "Jerry" Bremer III
David Brooks
Shoshana Bryen
Stephen D. Bryen
Zbigniew Brzezinski
Stephen A. Cambone
Eliot A. Cohen
Midge Decter
Paula J. Dobriansky (PNAC)
Thomas Donnelly
John Doolittle
Douglas Jay Feith
David Frum
Francis Fukuyama (PNAC)
Frank J. Gaffney, Jr. (PNAC)
Reuel Marc Gerecht (PNAC)
Newt Gingrich
Joshua Goldberg
Owen Harries
Bruce P. Jackson
Michael Johns
Robert Kagan (PNAC)
Zalmay Khalilzad (PNAC)
Jeane Kirkpatrick
Henry Kissinger
Neal Kozodoy
Charles Krauthammer
Irving Kristol
William Kristol (PNAC)
Michael Arthur Ledeen
Jay Lefkowitz
I. Lewis Libby a.k.a. "Scooter"
Michael H. Mobbs
Joshua Muravchik
Rupert Murdoch
Richard J. Neuhaus
Michael Novak
Martin Peretz
Richard N. Perle (PNAC)
Daniel Pipes
Norman Podhoretz
Howard Raines
Peter W. Rodman (PNAC)
Karl Rove
Donald H. Rumsfeld (PNAC)
Richard Mellon Scaife
Gary J. Schmitt
William Schneider, Jr. (PNAC)
Abram N. Shulsky
Robert W. Tucker
Harlan Ullman
Vin Weber (PNAC)
Paul Dundes Wolfowitz (PNAC)
R. James Woolsey, Jr. (PNAC)
David Wurmser
Meyrav Wurmser
Dov Zakheim
Karl Zinsmeister
Robert B. Zoellick



You are trying to put direct involvement to an action that was indeed pulled off by Islmaic terrorists! You seem to refuse the notion that certain people in the know found out about the attack and sand bagged the people who could do something about it. Yes the idea of a false flag attack is something we would expect of our leadership from behind the scenes BUT when an opportunity arises to let someone else do your dirty work and allow you to aim the blame at them instead then it is a win win for you to sit back and tell your people to stand down.
This is a much further reaching problem than you seem to comprehend. Bank of Islam, World Bank, Federal Reserve, The European Central Bank. Where does all the money flow eventually? Asia? NO. America? Certainly not. It goes through England and the hands of the World Bank! This is all about thought engineering on a global scale to convince people New World Order is for them. It isn't. If I remember Corporations were born in England. The oldest and the biggest are the ones who power monger to create a new aristocracy and monarchy under the Aegis of Democracy. The fact is that all this tolerance for Islam is to allow the problems we have fester and keep war brewing because Economic wars are really wearing on people. Bush could not come out and admit that Iraq was about control of Middle Eastern oil! they had to have Islam and Terrorism and Weapons of mass Destruction and FEAR to keep our attentions from the real reason we were waging war.

Seriously, you need to get out of the box you are thinking in and come to the realization that the snakes hiding in our basement will do everything they can to let someone else do their dirty work! You can get a suicide bomber to do it for $25,000. Think I am kidding? All you need is an Islamic Cleric, a good target, and some financially desperate family who will put a family member up to do the "Soldier for Allah," thing for their family!

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 07/30/12 01:48 AM


There is one thing that everybody can agree with and that is...911 was not done by a handful of Islamic
fanatics.”
Certainly not by fanatics who could not fly a Cessna.

My personal theory is they had some rubes set up used drone technology to fly the planes and the reason no "black box" information was released is that the pilots would be screaming how they had no control of the planes.

One does not have to be a card carrying member of the foil hate brigade to have serious doubts about the fact that after both towers had been hit by hijacked planes the airspace over Washington was undefended.

At best it was criminal negligence.


and who says they couldn't fly a CESSNA?
Actually the ones flying the Planes had enough Simulator-Time to fly them!
Didn't need to Take Off or Land the Things which actually are the hardest things in Flying!

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 07/30/12 01:52 AM

Isn't it amazing? With such an elaborate conspiracy needing the co-operation of thousands who've maintained their collective silence for over a decade, that such an obvious trail of evidence was left for a group of dilettantes without any scientific knowledge to expose on less than credible websites.

One thing we can all agree on, that this scenario is ********.
Oh my,that's so un-CT!!!!!laugh

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 07/30/12 02:03 AM

911 was not done by a handful of Islamic
fanatics.”

They more than like got a little help from some of their friends below

Some dodgy characters in this list.

Elliott Abrams (PNAC)
Ken Adelman
Richard Armitage (PNAC)
John David Ashcroft
Fred Barnes
Gary Bauer
William J. Bennett (PNAC)
Jeffrey Bergner (PNAC)
John Bolton (PNAC)
Max Boot
Ellen Bork
Paul Bremer Lewis Paul "Jerry" Bremer III
David Brooks
Shoshana Bryen
Stephen D. Bryen
Zbigniew Brzezinski
Stephen A. Cambone
Eliot A. Cohen
Midge Decter
Paula J. Dobriansky (PNAC)
Thomas Donnelly
John Doolittle
Douglas Jay Feith
David Frum
Francis Fukuyama (PNAC)
Frank J. Gaffney, Jr. (PNAC)
Reuel Marc Gerecht (PNAC)
Newt Gingrich
Joshua Goldberg
Owen Harries
Bruce P. Jackson
Michael Johns
Robert Kagan (PNAC)
Zalmay Khalilzad (PNAC)
Jeane Kirkpatrick
Henry Kissinger
Neal Kozodoy
Charles Krauthammer
Irving Kristol
William Kristol (PNAC)
Michael Arthur Ledeen
Jay Lefkowitz
I. Lewis Libby a.k.a. "Scooter"
Michael H. Mobbs
Joshua Muravchik
Rupert Murdoch
Richard J. Neuhaus
Michael Novak
Martin Peretz
Richard N. Perle (PNAC)
Daniel Pipes
Norman Podhoretz
Howard Raines
Peter W. Rodman (PNAC)
Karl Rove
Donald H. Rumsfeld (PNAC)
Richard Mellon Scaife
Gary J. Schmitt
William Schneider, Jr. (PNAC)
Abram N. Shulsky
Robert W. Tucker
Harlan Ullman
Vin Weber (PNAC)
Paul Dundes Wolfowitz (PNAC)
R. James Woolsey, Jr. (PNAC)
David Wurmser
Meyrav Wurmser
Dov Zakheim
Karl Zinsmeister
Robert B. Zoellick
rofl you've got to be kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bestinshow's photo
Mon 07/30/12 02:04 AM



There is one thing that everybody can agree with and that is...911 was not done by a handful of Islamic
fanatics.”
Certainly not by fanatics who could not fly a Cessna.

My personal theory is they had some rubes set up used drone technology to fly the planes and the reason no "black box" information was released is that the pilots would be screaming how they had no control of the planes.

One does not have to be a card carrying member of the foil hate brigade to have serious doubts about the fact that after both towers had been hit by hijacked planes the airspace over Washington was undefended.

At best it was criminal negligence.


and who says they couldn't fly a CESSNA?
Actually the ones flying the Planes had enough Simulator-Time to fly them!
Didn't need to Take Off or Land the Things which actually are the hardest things in Flying!
Just their flight instructors Mr
Conrad.

n fact, here’s what their flight instructors had to say about the aptitude of these budding aviators:

Mohammed Atta: “His attention span was zero.”
http://www.willthomas.net/911/911_Commission_Hearing.htm

Khalid Al-Mihdhar: “We didn’t kick him out, but he didn’t live up to our standards.”
http://100777.com/node/237

Marwan Al-Shehhi: “He was dropped because of his limited English and incompetence at the controls.”
http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/9-11/9-11_hijackers_still_alive.htm

Salem Al-Hazmi: “We advised him to quit after two lessons.”
http://www.willthomas.net/Books_Videos/911_Investigations_Stand_Down.htm

Hani Hanjour: “His English was horrible, and his mechanical skills were even worse. It was like he had hardly even ever driven a car. I’m still to this day amazed that he could have flown into the Pentagon. He could not fly at all.”
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hanjour.html

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 07/30/12 02:06 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Mon 07/30/12 02:16 AM




There is one thing that everybody can agree with and that is...911 was not done by a handful of Islamic
fanatics.”
Certainly not by fanatics who could not fly a Cessna.

My personal theory is they had some rubes set up used drone technology to fly the planes and the reason no "black box" information was released is that the pilots would be screaming how they had no control of the planes.

One does not have to be a card carrying member of the foil hate brigade to have serious doubts about the fact that after both towers had been hit by hijacked planes the airspace over Washington was undefended.

At best it was criminal negligence.


and who says they couldn't fly a CESSNA?
Actually the ones flying the Planes had enough Simulator-Time to fly them!
Didn't need to Take Off or Land the Things which actually are the hardest things in Flying!
Just their flight instructors Mr
Conrad.

n fact, here’s what their flight instructors had to say about the aptitude of these budding aviators:

Mohammed Atta: “His attention span was zero.”
http://www.willthomas.net/911/911_Commission_Hearing.htm

Khalid Al-Mihdhar: “We didn’t kick him out, but he didn’t live up to our standards.”
http://100777.com/node/237

Marwan Al-Shehhi: “He was dropped because of his limited English and incompetence at the controls.”
http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/9-11/9-11_hijackers_still_alive.htm

Salem Al-Hazmi: “We advised him to quit after two lessons.”
http://www.willthomas.net/Books_Videos/911_Investigations_Stand_Down.htm

Hani Hanjour: “His English was horrible, and his mechanical skills were even worse. It was like he had hardly even ever driven a car. I’m still to this day amazed that he could have flown into the Pentagon. He could not fly at all.”
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hanjour.html
Like those Sites!laugh

How much skills do you need to fly a Plane that practically flies itself through GPS?
You Guys reaching bad now!
laugh
You all really need to do some Research,instead of relying on those CT-Sites,then accusing those that do Research at all Sources,except CT-Sites ,of wearing those ALU-Caps of yours!
Besides,I am not the one seeing a Conspiracy behind every-day Occurrences!

s1owhand's photo
Mon 07/30/12 02:12 AM
laugh

1. There were numerous eyewitness accounts and videos of the hijackers
and evidence of their flight and terrorism training.

2. Everybody watched them fly the planes into the WTC towers. It was
also recorded on video.

3. There were no ties between the radical Islamic terrorists and the
US Govt or any Govt except for Al-Qaeda being run by Bin Laden who
ultimately and gleefully took credit for the attacks.

laugh

All credible investigations have found that there was a direct money
trail and operational guidance of Al-Qaeda behind the attacks.

Only a few deluded ideologues and conspiracy theorists claim there
were other unverifiable elements involved but everybody dismisses the
conspiracy claims as nonsense and for good reason.

laugh

Optomistic69's photo
Mon 07/30/12 05:46 AM


Osama is Dead...


True, proving?


Next.




If you want to be pedantic about these things you should have seen that the post was past tense and I was answering in the present.bigsmile

Just Saying......Your normal meticulous attention to detail is slacking:smile:

Do you believe the official 911 story?

A simple Yes or No Question