Topic: 9/11 SYNTHETIC TERRORISM<>MADE IN USA
HotRodDeluxe's photo
Mon 07/30/12 05:46 PM






I love Mingle2, it's like visiting another planet.

rofl


Well you are a Southern Hemisphericrofl


Yes, it would seem that our distance helps us maintain our perspective.


We are equidistant from each otherbigsmile


Yes, but you missed my point. Most of the topics discussed here occur within the Northern Hemisphere.


Lots of people seem to be missing your point.laugh laugh laugh


I can't help it if they have comprehension problems.

HotRodDeluxe's photo
Mon 07/30/12 05:59 PM

Another critical view of the 9/11 story came from Dr. Johannes B. Koeppl, a former
official in the German Defense Ministry, and an advisor to the former NATO General
Secretary, Manfred Woerner. Koeppl told Mike Ruppert: “The interests behind the Bush
administration, such as the CFR, the Trilateral Commission – founded by Brzezinski for
David Rockefeller – and the Bilderberger group, have prepared for and are now moving
to implement open world dictatorship within the next five years. They are not fighting
against terrorists. They are fighting against citizens.” (From the Wilderness, November 6,
2001)




Well, his prediction didn't happen so he's a credible source? Please post links to your sources, it's just a courtesy.

no photo
Tue 07/31/12 10:19 AM


Another critical view of the 9/11 story came from Dr. Johannes B. Koeppl, a former
official in the German Defense Ministry, and an advisor to the former NATO General
Secretary, Manfred Woerner. Koeppl told Mike Ruppert: “The interests behind the Bush
administration, such as the CFR, the Trilateral Commission – founded by Brzezinski for
David Rockefeller – and the Bilderberger group, have prepared for and are now moving
to implement open world dictatorship within the next five years. They are not fighting
against terrorists. They are fighting against citizens.” (From the Wilderness, November 6,
2001)




Well, his prediction didn't happen so he's a credible source? Please post links to your sources, it's just a courtesy.


If you are talking about the prediction that they want world dictatorship within "the next five years" then they are just behind schedule.

The Banking cabal are still working on that. laugh laugh

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 07/31/12 10:28 AM



Another critical view of the 9/11 story came from Dr. Johannes B. Koeppl, a former
official in the German Defense Ministry, and an advisor to the former NATO General
Secretary, Manfred Woerner. Koeppl told Mike Ruppert: “The interests behind the Bush
administration, such as the CFR, the Trilateral Commission – founded by Brzezinski for
David Rockefeller – and the Bilderberger group, have prepared for and are now moving
to implement open world dictatorship within the next five years. They are not fighting
against terrorists. They are fighting against citizens.” (From the Wilderness, November 6,
2001)




Well, his prediction didn't happen so he's a credible source? Please post links to your sources, it's just a courtesy.


If you are talking about the prediction that they want world dictatorship within "the next five years" then they are just behind schedule.

The Banking cabal are still working on that. laugh laugh
Damn Inefficient Cabalists!
Moron Illuminati!:laughing:

no photo
Tue 07/31/12 10:36 AM




Another critical view of the 9/11 story came from Dr. Johannes B. Koeppl, a former
official in the German Defense Ministry, and an advisor to the former NATO General
Secretary, Manfred Woerner. Koeppl told Mike Ruppert: “The interests behind the Bush
administration, such as the CFR, the Trilateral Commission – founded by Brzezinski for
David Rockefeller – and the Bilderberger group, have prepared for and are now moving
to implement open world dictatorship within the next five years. They are not fighting
against terrorists. They are fighting against citizens.” (From the Wilderness, November 6,
2001)




Well, his prediction didn't happen so he's a credible source? Please post links to your sources, it's just a courtesy.


If you are talking about the prediction that they want world dictatorship within "the next five years" then they are just behind schedule.

The Banking cabal are still working on that. laugh laugh
Damn Inefficient Cabalists!
Moron Illuminati!:laughing:


Idleness, messing up the time schedule again...:tongue:

Optomistic69's photo
Tue 07/31/12 10:45 AM


Its not worth arguing about anymore.

There are not very many people left who believe the official account of 9/11.

We may never know what really happened exactly.




Lete have a seaweed bath :angel:



Conrad_73's photo
Tue 07/31/12 10:47 AM





Another critical view of the 9/11 story came from Dr. Johannes B. Koeppl, a former
official in the German Defense Ministry, and an advisor to the former NATO General
Secretary, Manfred Woerner. Koeppl told Mike Ruppert: “The interests behind the Bush
administration, such as the CFR, the Trilateral Commission – founded by Brzezinski for
David Rockefeller – and the Bilderberger group, have prepared for and are now moving
to implement open world dictatorship within the next five years. They are not fighting
against terrorists. They are fighting against citizens.” (From the Wilderness, November 6,
2001)




Well, his prediction didn't happen so he's a credible source? Please post links to your sources, it's just a courtesy.


If you are talking about the prediction that they want world dictatorship within "the next five years" then they are just behind schedule.

The Banking cabal are still working on that. laugh laugh
Damn Inefficient Cabalists!
Moron Illuminati!:laughing:


Idleness, messing up the time schedule again...:tongue:
think think think That's it!
That is what is gumming up the works!:laughing:

no photo
Tue 07/31/12 10:56 AM




Another critical view of the 9/11 story came from Dr. Johannes B. Koeppl, a former
official in the German Defense Ministry, and an advisor to the former NATO General
Secretary, Manfred Woerner. Koeppl told Mike Ruppert: “The interests behind the Bush
administration, such as the CFR, the Trilateral Commission – founded by Brzezinski for
David Rockefeller – and the Bilderberger group, have prepared for and are now moving
to implement open world dictatorship within the next five years. They are not fighting
against terrorists. They are fighting against citizens.” (From the Wilderness, November 6,
2001)




Well, his prediction didn't happen so he's a credible source? Please post links to your sources, it's just a courtesy.


If you are talking about the prediction that they want world dictatorship within "the next five years" then they are just behind schedule.

The Banking cabal are still working on that. laugh laugh
Damn Inefficient Cabalists!
Moron Illuminati!:laughing:


Yep, they lack imagination. They do the same old things over and over. They are so predictable.


Conrad_73's photo
Tue 07/31/12 11:05 AM





Another critical view of the 9/11 story came from Dr. Johannes B. Koeppl, a former
official in the German Defense Ministry, and an advisor to the former NATO General
Secretary, Manfred Woerner. Koeppl told Mike Ruppert: “The interests behind the Bush
administration, such as the CFR, the Trilateral Commission – founded by Brzezinski for
David Rockefeller – and the Bilderberger group, have prepared for and are now moving
to implement open world dictatorship within the next five years. They are not fighting
against terrorists. They are fighting against citizens.” (From the Wilderness, November 6,
2001)




Well, his prediction didn't happen so he's a credible source? Please post links to your sources, it's just a courtesy.


If you are talking about the prediction that they want world dictatorship within "the next five years" then they are just behind schedule.

The Banking cabal are still working on that. laugh laugh
Damn Inefficient Cabalists!
Moron Illuminati!:laughing:


Yep, they lack imagination. They do the same old things over and over. They are so predictable.


yet you credit them with some of the most Diabolical and Intricate Conspiracies in History?:laughing:

no photo
Tue 07/31/12 11:18 AM






Another critical view of the 9/11 story came from Dr. Johannes B. Koeppl, a former
official in the German Defense Ministry, and an advisor to the former NATO General
Secretary, Manfred Woerner. Koeppl told Mike Ruppert: “The interests behind the Bush
administration, such as the CFR, the Trilateral Commission – founded by Brzezinski for
David Rockefeller – and the Bilderberger group, have prepared for and are now moving
to implement open world dictatorship within the next five years. They are not fighting
against terrorists. They are fighting against citizens.” (From the Wilderness, November 6,
2001)




Well, his prediction didn't happen so he's a credible source? Please post links to your sources, it's just a courtesy.


If you are talking about the prediction that they want world dictatorship within "the next five years" then they are just behind schedule.

The Banking cabal are still working on that. laugh laugh
Damn Inefficient Cabalists!
Moron Illuminati!:laughing:


Yep, they lack imagination. They do the same old things over and over. They are so predictable.


yet you credit them with some of the most Diabolical and Intricate Conspiracies in History?:laughing:



Diabolical, yes. Imaginative, NO. They repeat the same M.O. over and over and over. They have instructions and they follow them to the letter.

They have no creativity or imagination.

Bestinshow's photo
Tue 07/31/12 03:13 PM






There is one thing that everybody can agree with and that is...911 was not done by a handful of Islamic
fanatics.”
Certainly not by fanatics who could not fly a Cessna.

My personal theory is they had some rubes set up used drone technology to fly the planes and the reason no "black box" information was released is that the pilots would be screaming how they had no control of the planes.

One does not have to be a card carrying member of the foil hate brigade to have serious doubts about the fact that after both towers had been hit by hijacked planes the airspace over Washington was undefended.

At best it was criminal negligence.


and who says they couldn't fly a CESSNA?
Actually the ones flying the Planes had enough Simulator-Time to fly them!
Didn't need to Take Off or Land the Things which actually are the hardest things in Flying!
Just their flight instructors Mr
Conrad.

n fact, here’s what their flight instructors had to say about the aptitude of these budding aviators:

Mohammed Atta: “His attention span was zero.”
http://www.willthomas.net/911/911_Commission_Hearing.htm

Khalid Al-Mihdhar: “We didn’t kick him out, but he didn’t live up to our standards.”
http://100777.com/node/237

Marwan Al-Shehhi: “He was dropped because of his limited English and incompetence at the controls.”
http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/9-11/9-11_hijackers_still_alive.htm

Salem Al-Hazmi: “We advised him to quit after two lessons.”
http://www.willthomas.net/Books_Videos/911_Investigations_Stand_Down.htm

Hani Hanjour: “His English was horrible, and his mechanical skills were even worse. It was like he had hardly even ever driven a car. I’m still to this day amazed that he could have flown into the Pentagon. He could not fly at all.”
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hanjour.html
Like those Sites!laugh

How much skills do you need to fly a Plane that practically flies itself through GPS?
You Guys reaching bad now!
laugh
You all really need to do some Research,instead of relying on those CT-Sites,then accusing those that do Research at all Sources,except CT-Sites ,of wearing those ALU-Caps of yours!
Besides,I am not the one seeing a Conspiracy behind every-day Occurrences!
So Mr Conrad, let me see if I understand you.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Your saying a jumbo jet is easier to fly than a Cessna trainer?
Still wondering:wink:

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 07/31/12 03:21 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Tue 07/31/12 03:29 PM







There is one thing that everybody can agree with and that is...911 was not done by a handful of Islamic
fanatics.”
Certainly not by fanatics who could not fly a Cessna.

My personal theory is they had some rubes set up used drone technology to fly the planes and the reason no "black box" information was released is that the pilots would be screaming how they had no control of the planes.

One does not have to be a card carrying member of the foil hate brigade to have serious doubts about the fact that after both towers had been hit by hijacked planes the airspace over Washington was undefended.

At best it was criminal negligence.


and who says they couldn't fly a CESSNA?
Actually the ones flying the Planes had enough Simulator-Time to fly them!
Didn't need to Take Off or Land the Things which actually are the hardest things in Flying!
Just their flight instructors Mr
Conrad.

n fact, here’s what their flight instructors had to say about the aptitude of these budding aviators:

Mohammed Atta: “His attention span was zero.”
http://www.willthomas.net/911/911_Commission_Hearing.htm

Khalid Al-Mihdhar: “We didn’t kick him out, but he didn’t live up to our standards.”
http://100777.com/node/237

Marwan Al-Shehhi: “He was dropped because of his limited English and incompetence at the controls.”
http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/9-11/9-11_hijackers_still_alive.htm

Salem Al-Hazmi: “We advised him to quit after two lessons.”
http://www.willthomas.net/Books_Videos/911_Investigations_Stand_Down.htm

Hani Hanjour: “His English was horrible, and his mechanical skills were even worse. It was like he had hardly even ever driven a car. I’m still to this day amazed that he could have flown into the Pentagon. He could not fly at all.”
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hanjour.html
Like those Sites!laugh

How much skills do you need to fly a Plane that practically flies itself through GPS?
You Guys reaching bad now!
laugh
You all really need to do some Research,instead of relying on those CT-Sites,then accusing those that do Research at all Sources,except CT-Sites ,of wearing those ALU-Caps of yours!
Besides,I am not the one seeing a Conspiracy behind every-day Occurrences!
So Mr Conrad, let me see if I understand you.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Your saying a jumbo jet is easier to fly than a Cessna trainer?
Still wondering:wink:
you bet!
More Bells and Whistles to help!
Besides,they were no Jumbo-Jets!
Friend of mine,Pilot and Instructor on Flight-Simulators had this to say!
Even a Blithering Idiot can learn how to handle one of those Planes in the Simulator,and then use it on the Real Thing!
Even a BLITHERING IDIOT!
You must forgive his choice of words,but he is British!laugh
In his Words any of those Hijackers were quite capable of flying those Planes to their "Destination"!
Since most of it was done on GPS with Automatic Pilot!


BTW,that Guy is training People to fly the Airbus A380!

Bestinshow's photo
Tue 07/31/12 04:09 PM
Edited by Bestinshow on Tue 07/31/12 04:37 PM








There is one thing that everybody can agree with and that is...911 was not done by a handful of Islamic
fanatics.”
Certainly not by fanatics who could not fly a Cessna.

My personal theory is they had some rubes set up used drone technology to fly the planes and the reason no "black box" information was released is that the pilots would be screaming how they had no control of the planes.

One does not have to be a card carrying member of the foil hate brigade to have serious doubts about the fact that after both towers had been hit by hijacked planes the airspace over Washington was undefended.

At best it was criminal negligence.


and who says they couldn't fly a CESSNA?
Actually the ones flying the Planes had enough Simulator-Time to fly them!
Didn't need to Take Off or Land the Things which actually are the hardest things in Flying!
Just their flight instructors Mr
Conrad.

n fact, here’s what their flight instructors had to say about the aptitude of these budding aviators:

Mohammed Atta: “His attention span was zero.”
http://www.willthomas.net/911/911_Commission_Hearing.htm

Khalid Al-Mihdhar: “We didn’t kick him out, but he didn’t live up to our standards.”
http://100777.com/node/237

Marwan Al-Shehhi: “He was dropped because of his limited English and incompetence at the controls.”
http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/9-11/9-11_hijackers_still_alive.htm

Salem Al-Hazmi: “We advised him to quit after two lessons.”
http://www.willthomas.net/Books_Videos/911_Investigations_Stand_Down.htm

Hani Hanjour: “His English was horrible, and his mechanical skills were even worse. It was like he had hardly even ever driven a car. I’m still to this day amazed that he could have flown into the Pentagon. He could not fly at all.”
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hanjour.html
Like those Sites!laugh

How much skills do you need to fly a Plane that practically flies itself through GPS?
You Guys reaching bad now!
laugh
You all really need to do some Research,instead of relying on those CT-Sites,then accusing those that do Research at all Sources,except CT-Sites ,of wearing those ALU-Caps of yours!
Besides,I am not the one seeing a Conspiracy behind every-day Occurrences!
So Mr Conrad, let me see if I understand you.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Your saying a jumbo jet is easier to fly than a Cessna trainer?
Still wondering:wink:
you bet!
More Bells and Whistles to help!
Besides,they were no Jumbo-Jets!
Friend of mine,Pilot and Instructor on Flight-Simulators had this to say!
Even a Blithering Idiot can learn how to handle one of those Planes in the Simulator,and then use it on the Real Thing!
Even a BLITHERING IDIOT!
You must forgive his choice of words,but he is British!laugh
In his Words any of those Hijackers were quite capable of flying those Planes to their "Destination"!
Since most of it was done on GPS with Automatic Pilot!


BTW,that Guy is training People to fly the Airbus A380!
I have a war in Iraq to sell both of youlaugh rofl

Any how I know nothing about your so called pilot friend I am however familiar with this group who have signed affidavits for a pending trial (if it ever see's the light of day.


Pilots For 9/11 Truth Sign Affidavit In Lawsuit Brought By Pentagon Survivor

07/15/2009 - (Pilotsfor911truth.org) April Gallop, a survivor of the Pentagon Attack on September 11, 2001, is now suing Cheney, Rumsfeld, Myers and other officials for their possible role in the attack and failure to evacuate the Pentagon. The lawsuit cites Flight Data Recorder Analysis. Pilots For 9/11 Truth have been called upon to sign our names and professional reputations to the analysis which will be presented before a judge in a court of law.

Several individuals who make excuse for the govt story such as Glenn Beck, some who refuse to put their names and faces to their claims such as those who spend their days and nights obsessed with us, and those who endlessly attempt to smear anyone who questions 9/11 (albeit poorly), constantly complain we will never take our concerns to court. They have once again been proven wrong.

To read pdf copies of the affidavit's being filed please visit -

http://www.centerfor911justice.org/news/index.html

or Download directly here. (right click and save target as..)

For full complaint filed by April Gallop, and discussion, please visit http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index.php?showtopic=15787

Pilots For 9/11 Truth is an organization of aviation professionals from around the globe. The organization has analyzed Flight Data provided by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB). The data does not support the government story. See http://pilotsfor911truth.org/pressrelease for a summary of Pentagon Analysis. The NTSB/FBI refuse to comment. Pilots For 9/11 Truth Core member list continues to grow.

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/core.html for full member list.

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/join to join.

An affidavit (play /ˌæfɨˈdeɪvɨt/ A-fə-DAY-vət) is a written sworn statement of fact voluntarily made by an affiant or deponent under an oath or affirmation administered by a person authorized to do so by law. Such statement is witnessed as to the authenticity of the affiant's signature by a taker of oaths, such as a notary public or commissioner of oaths. The name is Medieval Latin for he has declared upon oath. An affidavit is a type of verified statement or showing, or in other words, it contains a verification, meaning it is under oath or penalty of perjury, and this serves as evidence to its veracity and is required for court proceedings.

To obtain a declaration on a legal document, such as an application for voter registration, that the information provided by the applicant is truthful to the best of the applicant's knowledge. If, after signing such a declaration, the information is found to be deliberately untrue with the intent to deceive, the applicant may face perjury charges.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affidavit

HotRodDeluxe's photo
Tue 07/31/12 05:12 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Tue 07/31/12 05:12 PM
I have a war in Iraq to sell both of you


The war in Iraq had nothing to do with 911 and everything to do with Saddam's failure to comply with UN resolutions.

Bestinshow's photo
Tue 07/31/12 05:36 PM

I have a war in Iraq to sell both of you


The war in Iraq had nothing to do with 911 and everything to do with Saddam's failure to comply with UN resolutions.
laugh

Do you think the American people would have cared enough to steal the oil if we hadn't been hit with 911?

Did we ever find WMDS?

What a rotten country this is.

Bestinshow's photo
Tue 07/31/12 06:05 PM
October 07, 2002

President Bush outlined his case against the regime of Saddam Hussein and called on the Iraqi leader to disarm in a speech to the American people Monday night. Here is a transcript of his speech:

Thank you for that very gracious and warm Cincinnati welcome. I'm honored to be here tonight. I appreciate you all coming



The threat comes from Iraq. It arises directly from the Iraqi regime's own actions, its history of aggression and its drive toward an arsenal of terror.

Eleven years ago, as a condition for ending the Persian Gulf War, the Iraqi regime was required to destroy its weapons of mass destruction, to cease all development of such weapons and to stop all support for terrorist groups.

The Iraqi regime has violated all of those obligations. It possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons. It has given shelter and support to terrorism and practices terror against its own people.

The entire world has witnessed Iraq's 11-year history of defiance, deception, and bad faith.

We also must never forget the most vivid events of recent history. On September 11, 2001, America felt its vulnerability -- even to threats that gather on the other side of the earth. We resolved then, and we are resolved today, to confront every threat, from any source, that could bring sudden terror and suffering to America.
http://articles.cnn.com/2002-10-07/politics/bush.transcript_1_weapons-terrorism-and-practices-terror-murderous-tyrant?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS

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Tue 07/31/12 06:54 PM

I have a war in Iraq to sell both of you


The war in Iraq had nothing to do with 911 and everything to do with Saddam's failure to comply with UN resolutions.


That is a bald faced propaganda lie.
Saddam was willing to cooperate completely.

Dick Cheney did not want to hear that. He wanted an excuse to go in there and take over the place.

This comes from inside CIA asset sources.

We have been lied to.

HotRodDeluxe's photo
Tue 07/31/12 07:00 PM


I have a war in Iraq to sell both of you


The war in Iraq had nothing to do with 911 and everything to do with Saddam's failure to comply with UN resolutions.
laugh

Do you think the American people would have cared enough to steal the oil if we hadn't been hit with 911?

Did we ever find WMDS?

What a rotten country this is.


Well, your hatred of your own country appears to be created by a naive perception of world events.

HotRodDeluxe's photo
Tue 07/31/12 07:02 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Tue 07/31/12 07:17 PM


I have a war in Iraq to sell both of you


The war in Iraq had nothing to do with 911 and everything to do with Saddam's failure to comply with UN resolutions.


That is a bald faced propaganda lie.
Saddam was willing to cooperate completely.

Dick Cheney did not want to hear that. He wanted an excuse to go in there and take over the place.

This comes from inside CIA asset sources.

We have been lied to.


Sorry, but that is a bald-faced propaganda lie. Please revise the news events of the period to refresh your memeory. Whatever Cheney said from a specious source is immaterial as it was a UN matter.

no photo
Tue 07/31/12 07:42 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 07/31/12 07:44 PM



I have a war in Iraq to sell both of you


The war in Iraq had nothing to do with 911 and everything to do with Saddam's failure to comply with UN resolutions.


That is a bald faced propaganda lie.
Saddam was willing to cooperate completely.

Dick Cheney did not want to hear that. He wanted an excuse to go in there and take over the place.

This comes from inside CIA asset sources.

We have been lied to.


Sorry, but that is a bald-faced propaganda lie. Please revise the news events of the period to refresh your memeory. Whatever Cheney said from a specious source is immaterial as it was a UN matter.


I only speak what I believe to be the truth.

What you have stated is propaganda.

My opinion.

The United States was determined to invade Iraq. Nothing was going to stop them. They would tell any lie, to accomplish that.