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Topic: 9/11 SYNTHETIC TERRORISM<>MADE IN USA
HotRodDeluxe Joined Sun 05/06/12 Posts: 2743	Sat 07/28/12 07:03 PM Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sat 07/28/12 08:01 PM
You sound like a real pro. After spending years analysing texts of one form or another, my extensive observations have produced these findings. For example, your post introduces the use of ad hominem techniques (see step 3).

AndyBgood Joined Thu 12/25/08 Posts: 12437	Sat 07/28/12 10:40 PM
You sound like a real pro. After spending years analysing texts of one form or another, my extensive observations have produced these findings. For example, your post introduces the use of ad hominem techniques (see step 3). I get a load of that on Yahoo and I then go for Ad hominum to the next level. I believe in civil debate and people like to take it to the mat like this is a political debate which usually degenerates into, "Your a stinky head," and "Your a mean doody pants." Here you have to treat ad hominum more graciously but even I have had my failings. Sad no one is perfect but I do love the comedy when a valid point is cast and no appropriate counter point can be returned. What sometimes comes back is one or two line quips or my favorite three line insult. The one liner insults are the best though. Shows how adult adults can be!

s1owhand Joined Fri 05/18/07 Posts: 29437	Sun 07/29/12 03:42 AM
Facts that support Conspiracy Theory: 0. Facts supporting Al-Qaeda responsibility: All available data. Al-Qaeda wins.

Leigh2154 Joined Sun 10/02/11 Posts: 16479	Sun 07/29/12 03:56 AM
You sound like a real pro. After spending years analysing texts of one form or another, my extensive observations have produced these findings. For example, your post introduces the use of ad hominem techniques (see step 3). Smart people get all the defamation, it's not fair!...

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Sun 07/29/12 04:06 AM Edited by Optomistic69 on Sun 07/29/12 04:06 AM
The official 9/11 account has by now taken on all the characteristics of a myth. In the minds of many, credulousness in regard to the myth has taken on the overtones of religious sanctity. It has taken root deeply in the dark places of the American mind. The myth is a sensitive subject, hedged round with powerful reaction formations and fearful taboos. Challenge these and the subject will often respond with irrational anger and indignation. Nevertheless, the fact remains: the official version has never been proved. It is an unproven assertion, and in the end a myth.

HotRodDeluxe Joined Sun 05/06/12 Posts: 2743	Sun 07/29/12 04:32 AM
The official 9/11 account has by now taken on all the characteristics of a myth. In the minds of many. A mixture of steps 2 & 6 credulousness in regard to the myth has taken on the overtones of religious sanctity. See above (introduction of hyperbole) It has taken root deeply in the dark places of the American mind. The myth is a sensitive subject, hedged round with powerful reaction formations and fearful taboos. More hyperbole. Note: Flowery language designed to evoke fear of an implied evil. Challenge these and the subject will often respond with irrational anger and indignation. Possibly owing to the illogical nature of the challenge (see step 6). Nevertheless, the fact remains: the official version has never been proved. Note: use of logical fallacy It is an unproven assertion, and in the end a myth. Again, a logical fallacy and an illogical conclusion utilising specious causality.

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Sun 07/29/12 04:42 AM
The dominant oligarchies of the United States and several other countries committed a serious error when they decided to accept the crude conspiracy theory peddled by the Bush regime concerning 9/11.

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Sun 07/29/12 04:48 AM
The dominant oligarchies of the United States and several other countries committed a serious error when they decided to accept the crude conspiracy theory peddled by the Bush regime concerning 9/11. Die Katze Laesst Das Mausen Nicht!

HotRodDeluxe Joined Sun 05/06/12 Posts: 2743	Sun 07/29/12 04:49 AM
The dominant oligarchies of the United States and several other countries committed a serious error when they decided to accept the crude conspiracy theory peddled by the Bush regime concerning 9/11. Yes, they should have gone with Judy Woods, it would have been far more entertaining.

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Sun 07/29/12 04:51 AM
The dominant oligarchies of the United States and several other countries committed a serious error when they decided to accept the crude conspiracy theory peddled by the Bush regime concerning 9/11. Yes, they should have gone with Judy Woods, it would have been far more entertaining. the "DUSTIFYING" Lady?

HotRodDeluxe Joined Sun 05/06/12 Posts: 2743	Sun 07/29/12 04:54 AM
The dominant oligarchies of the United States and several other countries committed a serious error when they decided to accept the crude conspiracy theory peddled by the Bush regime concerning 9/11. Yes, they should have gone with Judy Woods, it would have been far more entertaining. the "DUSTIFYING" Lady? Yep. Wasn't she the one with the ray gun?

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Sun 07/29/12 05:01 AM
We cannot be entirely certain that the truth about 9/11 will ever become generally accepted by the masses, but if such revelations should ever occur, they will now destroy far more than the 9/11 myth. The dismantling of the myth in favor of an account at least closer to reality will have the most profound institutional implications

HotRodDeluxe Joined Sun 05/06/12 Posts: 2743	Sun 07/29/12 05:12 AM
We cannot be entirely certain that the truth about 9/11 will ever become generally accepted by the masses, but if such revelations should ever occur, they will now destroy far more than the 9/11 myth. The dismantling of the myth in favor of an account at least closer to reality will have the most profound institutional implications So, which of the many 'truths' in circulation do you think will find favour with the audience?

InvictusV Joined Sun 11/23/08 Posts: 5282	Sun 07/29/12 05:51 AM Edited by InvictusV on Sun 07/29/12 05:51 AM
The dominant oligarchies of the United States and several other countries committed a serious error when they decided to accept the crude conspiracy theory peddled by the Bush regime concerning 9/11. Doesn't say much for your euro intel agencies does it? duped by a dummy.. who blew up the trains in London? The CIA? MI5 or MI6 couldn't figure that out I suppose or did they just go along with it because they had so much to gain?

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Sun 07/29/12 06:41 AM
http://mingle2.com/topic/show/332710 From my perspective of being engaged in the world around me, be it through the younger adults my kids age or the people I have grown up with or people I have worked with for twenty years, 90% of us find the official version of 911 to be an absurd fraud and those who buy into it rubes or shrills. then make up your mind how it was done,instead changing the Method every Tuesday! We have seen very little from the Truthers besides Insults and Namecalling! I am not privy to national security details nor do I need to be to understand that nothing penetrates the air space over Washington without being challenged. Bad Cessna pilots cannot fly jumbo jets and navigate to a target and hit 3 out of 4 times. Modern steel framed buildings do not collapse straight down due to fires, never have and never will again unless rigged with explosives. I do not know the who's or why's but being raised to love and protect freedom, I know 911 was used to take all that away and turn this country into a turnkey police state. The real issues at hand are the freedoms we lost because of 911. right,you ain't! Turn the Transponder off in one off those Planes,and they will be invisible! Besides,the Military does not follow Civilian Craft on Radar! What Personal Freedom have you lost on account of 9/11? Personal Freedom! have you heard about radar? Norad maybe? I gota go Mr. Conrad but lets just hope if another country ever decides to attack Washington they leave their transponders on eh? yep I have heard about Radar! And that is exactly the Issue! Today's Airliners are identified by their Transponder Signatures! Turn it off,and the Airliner disappears from Airtraffic-Control! What Personal Freedom have you lost on account of 9/11? Personal Freedom! Why is this chit so hard for some to grasp??? The other day the back boxes came up as further proof of a CT....I didn't know a thing about how they are constructed so I learned!!!...No way could they come out of WTC without major damage in spite of the design specifications..... How about the one that crashed in Shanksville or the Pentagon?

Leigh2154 Joined Sun 10/02/11 Posts: 16479	Sun 07/29/12 07:50 AM
http://mingle2.com/topic/show/332710 From my perspective of being engaged in the world around me, be it through the younger adults my kids age or the people I have grown up with or people I have worked with for twenty years, 90% of us find the official version of 911 to be an absurd fraud and those who buy into it rubes or shrills. then make up your mind how it was done,instead changing the Method every Tuesday! We have seen very little from the Truthers besides Insults and Namecalling! I am not privy to national security details nor do I need to be to understand that nothing penetrates the air space over Washington without being challenged. Bad Cessna pilots cannot fly jumbo jets and navigate to a target and hit 3 out of 4 times. Modern steel framed buildings do not collapse straight down due to fires, never have and never will again unless rigged with explosives. I do not know the who's or why's but being raised to love and protect freedom, I know 911 was used to take all that away and turn this country into a turnkey police state. The real issues at hand are the freedoms we lost because of 911. right,you ain't! Turn the Transponder off in one off those Planes,and they will be invisible! Besides,the Military does not follow Civilian Craft on Radar! What Personal Freedom have you lost on account of 9/11? Personal Freedom! have you heard about radar? Norad maybe? I gota go Mr. Conrad but lets just hope if another country ever decides to attack Washington they leave their transponders on eh? yep I have heard about Radar! And that is exactly the Issue! Today's Airliners are identified by their Transponder Signatures! Turn it off,and the Airliner disappears from Airtraffic-Control! What Personal Freedom have you lost on account of 9/11? Personal Freedom! Why is this chit so hard for some to grasp??? The other day the back boxes came up as further proof of a CT....I didn't know a thing about how they are constructed so I learned!!!...No way could they come out of WTC without major damage in spite of the design specifications..... How about the one that crashed in Shanksville or the Pentagon? What about them?

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Sun 07/29/12 07:59 AM
http://mingle2.com/topic/show/332710 From my perspective of being engaged in the world around me, be it through the younger adults my kids age or the people I have grown up with or people I have worked with for twenty years, 90% of us find the official version of 911 to be an absurd fraud and those who buy into it rubes or shrills. then make up your mind how it was done,instead changing the Method every Tuesday! We have seen very little from the Truthers besides Insults and Namecalling! I am not privy to national security details nor do I need to be to understand that nothing penetrates the air space over Washington without being challenged. Bad Cessna pilots cannot fly jumbo jets and navigate to a target and hit 3 out of 4 times. Modern steel framed buildings do not collapse straight down due to fires, never have and never will again unless rigged with explosives. I do not know the who's or why's but being raised to love and protect freedom, I know 911 was used to take all that away and turn this country into a turnkey police state. The real issues at hand are the freedoms we lost because of 911. right,you ain't! Turn the Transponder off in one off those Planes,and they will be invisible! Besides,the Military does not follow Civilian Craft on Radar! What Personal Freedom have you lost on account of 9/11? Personal Freedom! have you heard about radar? Norad maybe? I gota go Mr. Conrad but lets just hope if another country ever decides to attack Washington they leave their transponders on eh? yep I have heard about Radar! And that is exactly the Issue! Today's Airliners are identified by their Transponder Signatures! Turn it off,and the Airliner disappears from Airtraffic-Control! What Personal Freedom have you lost on account of 9/11? Personal Freedom! Why is this chit so hard for some to grasp??? The other day the back boxes came up as further proof of a CT....I didn't know a thing about how they are constructed so I learned!!!...No way could they come out of WTC without major damage in spite of the design specifications..... How about the one that crashed in Shanksville or the Pentagon? What about them? according to your "theory" it was the massive impacts and falling buildings that destroyed the black boxes on the planes that hit the twin towers. Do you not remember what you wrote? Its is conveniently quoted above if you forgot. four crashes four lost black boxes, how convenient and how unprecedented.

Leigh2154 Joined Sun 10/02/11 Posts: 16479	Sun 07/29/12 08:08 AM
http://mingle2.com/topic/show/332710 From my perspective of being engaged in the world around me, be it through the younger adults my kids age or the people I have grown up with or people I have worked with for twenty years, 90% of us find the official version of 911 to be an absurd fraud and those who buy into it rubes or shrills. then make up your mind how it was done,instead changing the Method every Tuesday! We have seen very little from the Truthers besides Insults and Namecalling! I am not privy to national security details nor do I need to be to understand that nothing penetrates the air space over Washington without being challenged. Bad Cessna pilots cannot fly jumbo jets and navigate to a target and hit 3 out of 4 times. Modern steel framed buildings do not collapse straight down due to fires, never have and never will again unless rigged with explosives. I do not know the who's or why's but being raised to love and protect freedom, I know 911 was used to take all that away and turn this country into a turnkey police state. The real issues at hand are the freedoms we lost because of 911. right,you ain't! Turn the Transponder off in one off those Planes,and they will be invisible! Besides,the Military does not follow Civilian Craft on Radar! What Personal Freedom have you lost on account of 9/11? Personal Freedom! have you heard about radar? Norad maybe? I gota go Mr. Conrad but lets just hope if another country ever decides to attack Washington they leave their transponders on eh? yep I have heard about Radar! And that is exactly the Issue! Today's Airliners are identified by their Transponder Signatures! Turn it off,and the Airliner disappears from Airtraffic-Control! What Personal Freedom have you lost on account of 9/11? Personal Freedom! Why is this chit so hard for some to grasp??? The other day the back boxes came up as further proof of a CT....I didn't know a thing about how they are constructed so I learned!!!...No way could they come out of WTC without major damage in spite of the design specifications..... How about the one that crashed in Shanksville or the Pentagon? What about them? according to your "theory" it was the massive impacts and falling buildings that destroyed the black boxes on the planes that hit the twin towers. Do you not remember what you wrote? Its is conveniently quoted above if you forgot. four crashes four lost black boxes, how convenient and how unprecedented. Of course I remember what I wrote, I wasn't the one knocking back beers this weekend while sitting by a by a fire at a cabin no more than 5 minutes from my home.... Don't understand why you would have a problem with my post...Is it my sentence structure?

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Sun 07/29/12 08:16 AM
http://mingle2.com/topic/show/332710 From my perspective of being engaged in the world around me, be it through the younger adults my kids age or the people I have grown up with or people I have worked with for twenty years, 90% of us find the official version of 911 to be an absurd fraud and those who buy into it rubes or shrills. then make up your mind how it was done,instead changing the Method every Tuesday! We have seen very little from the Truthers besides Insults and Namecalling! I am not privy to national security details nor do I need to be to understand that nothing penetrates the air space over Washington without being challenged. Bad Cessna pilots cannot fly jumbo jets and navigate to a target and hit 3 out of 4 times. Modern steel framed buildings do not collapse straight down due to fires, never have and never will again unless rigged with explosives. I do not know the who's or why's but being raised to love and protect freedom, I know 911 was used to take all that away and turn this country into a turnkey police state. The real issues at hand are the freedoms we lost because of 911. right,you ain't! Turn the Transponder off in one off those Planes,and they will be invisible! Besides,the Military does not follow Civilian Craft on Radar! What Personal Freedom have you lost on account of 9/11? Personal Freedom! have you heard about radar? Norad maybe? I gota go Mr. Conrad but lets just hope if another country ever decides to attack Washington they leave their transponders on eh? yep I have heard about Radar! And that is exactly the Issue! Today's Airliners are identified by their Transponder Signatures! Turn it off,and the Airliner disappears from Airtraffic-Control! What Personal Freedom have you lost on account of 9/11? Personal Freedom! Why is this chit so hard for some to grasp??? The other day the back boxes came up as further proof of a CT....I didn't know a thing about how they are constructed so I learned!!!...No way could they come out of WTC without major damage in spite of the design specifications..... How about the one that crashed in Shanksville or the Pentagon? What about them? according to your "theory" it was the massive impacts and falling buildings that destroyed the black boxes on the planes that hit the twin towers. Do you not remember what you wrote? Its is conveniently quoted above if you forgot. four crashes four lost black boxes, how convenient and how unprecedented. Of course I remember what I wrote, I wasn't the one knocking back beers this weekend while sitting by a by a fire at a cabin no more than 5 minutes from my home.... Don't understand why you would have a problem with my post...Is it my sentence structure? According to your post and mocking tone (see above) we just don't get it. You "studied" and claimed there was now way the black boxes could come away from the WTC crash site without damage. (maybe so). I asked about Shanksville and the Pentagon crashes. What is your "Theory" of those missing black boxes? Both those crashes seemed to be typical and tons of debris did not crush them. My theory is they were hidden from the public for whatever reason.

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Sun 07/29/12 08:34 AM
On a lighter note lost in all the madness of the cabin weekend my son purchased a 2011 ford Mustang convertible I had to co-sign Friday. I urged him not to buy due to insurance and practicality but gave in due to the fact he is 18 and working a mans job and three weeks from being in the Union. If it ties him to his work I am thinking its well spent. Could be far worse things to spend money on. I also met my buddies GF who is Jewish and simply a gem. So kind and caring. I was impressed. We did find out she has never slept out doors and she was horrified that we tossed rib bones in the woods to bring in the racoons.