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Leigh2154
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![]() ![]() I dont understand why the presence of choice makes the reality of joint effort any more 'mythical' If I have a life threatening illness, and I CHOOSE the right specialist, who works on me only because he is going to get paid, and I improve and recover can I then say that recovery was all because of ME, because I had to make the right choices for it to happen? the two are unrelated, and neither instance is a joint effort. if you took a business class, i have serious concerns about the teacher a business is the sole effort of the owner. he funds every aspect of the effort from the ground up, and keeps funding it. if the business works, then he is responsible to keep it working. the success of the business is credited to him if you are sick, your decision to seek treatment or not is your responsibility. no one will force treatment on you. the treatment you choose may or may not be effective in a cure for what ails you. your body's response to the treatment will not be credited to anyone (unless there was some traumatic event that emergency treatment was needed, than one could say that an individual or individuals were responsible for saving your life) ok, I guess thats why all businesses are 'sole proprietorships' and we have no partnerships, or corporations and all owners are hands on making the decisions about hiring , expenses,, etc,,, they dont hire managers, or accountants, etc,,, yeah, you are right, I must write my business professor and tell him to ditch those books they were using ] ![]() ![]() successful businesses are successful because ONE person takes on all the work , research, and effort, and funding to make them that way,,, ,,boy, that will be a much shorter BA course,,,thanx Oh and PS...I am a business major...that's not where you learn.... ![]() no kidding,,, so am I , and I agree, experience along with READING goes a long way,,, Not really... ![]() lol,, not really? so which part doesnt help, experience,, or reading? I always thought we were much more limited in what we can learn from personal 'experiences' and books expand our knowledge beyond what we may be in a position to 'experience' but perhaps, in line with the 'only one' line of logic, others feel only ONE of the above (Reading, experience) Are significant to progress and success.... Just the fact that you can ask these kind of questions and make these comments tells me there is no point in trying to discuss business with you,,, |
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"America's leading small business association has slammed Barack Obama for showing 'an utter lack of understanding' of the country's entrepreneurs when he told them: 'If you've got a business - you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.'
In a hard-hitting statement to Mail Online, the National Federation of Independent Businesses (NFIB) president Dan Danne said: 'What a disappointment to hear President Obama's revealing comments challenging the significance of America's entrepreneurs. Mr Danne added: 'His unfortunate remarks over the weekend show an utter lack of understanding and appreciation for the people who take a huge personal risk and work endless hours to start a business and create jobs.'" AND: 'Every day millions of people put their lives, savings, houses and families on the line and work 20 hours a day just to grab their small slice of the American dream. Where is the collective when all of this is going on? And if the collective is really responsible for success, how come everyone isn’t successful?" AND FINALLY: [Obama's] unfortunate remarks over the weekend show an utter lack of understanding and appreciation for the people who take a huge personal risk and work endless hours to start a business and create jobs.' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2174160/Obama-says-wealthy-ARENT-responsible-success.html |
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Excerpt from "What Successful Business Have In Common" "Work/life balance. Successful business owners understand that every person has just 1,440 minutes in any given day and how they spend this time directly impacts how effective they'll be in growing their businesses. Smart entrepreneurs successfully integrate their social lives into their business lives: The client who purchases a product today gets invited to the lakeside cabin the next weekend. Clients become friends, and co-workers become like family. These entrepreneurs build their lives around their business, and it's almost impossible to distinguish between their social lives and their business lives." http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/83764 |
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Poll: President Obama, Romney Now in Dead Heat
Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:55 PM CDT Updated: Jul 19, 2012 3:43 PM CDT Forty-seven percent of registered voters nationwide who lean towards a candidate back Romney, while 46 percent support the president. Four percent are undecided. The 1 percentage point difference is within the survey's three-point margin of error. Romney leads by eight points among men; the president leads by five points among women. The president's supporters are more likely to strongly back their candidate. Fifty-two percent strongly favor Obama, while just 29 percent of Romney voters strongly back the presumptive Republican nominee. More than one in three Romney voters say they are supporting Romney primarily because they dislike Obama. Only eight percent of Obama supporters say their support for the president is tied to their dislike of Romney. Republicans are more enthusiastic than Democrats when it comes to voting in this election, though just one in three registered voters overall are more enthusiastic than they were in the past. Roughly half of Republicans say they are more enthusiastic compared to past elections - up from 36 percent in March - while just 27 percent of Democrats say the same. One in five registered voters with a candidate choice said they still might change their mind. The percentage of those willing to switch was essentially the same for both candidates. Forty-five percent of registered voters say they are paying close attention to the campaign, and another 38 percent say they are paying some attention. Seventeen percent say they are paying little or no attention. Fifty-four percent of registered voters cite the economy and jobs as "extremely" important in their presidential vote, more than any other issue. Here Romney has the edge: 49 percent of registered voters say he would do a better job handling the economy and jobs, while 41 percent cite Obama. Romney is also seen as better on the federal budget deficit (50 percent to 36 percent), taxes (47 percent to 42 percent) and illegal immigration (46 percent to 38 percent). Obama as seen as better on foreign policy (47 percent to 40 percent) and social issues (48 percent to 37 percent). Views of the candidates on health care and terrorism were split. Thirty-eight percent of registered voters say Obama cares a lot about their needs and problems, compared to 25 percent who say the same of Romney. Registered voters were slightly more likely to say that Obama says what he believes (45 percent) than to say that Romney says what he believes (37 percent). Only 28 percent believe Obama has fulfilled his promise to deliver positive change for the country. Fifty-eight percent say he has not delivered change, while 7 percent say he has delivered change that has been bad for the country. Obama's overall approval rating stands at 44 percent, with 46 percent disapproving. His approval rating on the economy is just 39 percent - 55 percent disapprove - and his approval rating on foreign policy is 41 percent. His approval rating on the economy has dropped five points since April. Both candidates have net unfavorable ratings. Forty-eight percent of registered voters view the president unfavorably, while 36 percent view him favorably. Romney is viewed unfavorably by 36 percent and favorably by 32 percent. Nearly one in three say they do not yet have an opinion about the presumptive Republican nominee. Seven in 10 Americans say the economy is in bad shape. While 24 percent say it is getting better - down from 33 percent in April - 30 percent say it is getting worse. That marks the highest percentage who say the economy is getting worse since December. Two in five Americans say they are very concerned someone in their household will lose their job. For more information, go to http://cbsn.ws/LXVBtM I can't wait to see what Obama latest insult to the American people does to his ratings...... Slip sliding away.... ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Is Romney going to repeal Husseins decision to grant amnesty and deport the Illegals?
If so, is he willing to put that in a legally binding contract? |
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Is Romney going to repeal Husseins decision to grant amnesty and deport the Illegals? If so, is he willing to put that in a legally binding contract? Don't know what Romney will or won't do if he is elected Will...I am voting the lesser of two evils this year...What other choice is there?? ![]() ![]() Mornin hotsey totsey!!! ![]() |
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Is Romney going to repeal Husseins decision to grant amnesty and deport the Illegals? If so, is he willing to put that in a legally binding contract? Don't know what Romney will or won't do if he is elected Will...I am voting the lesser of two evils this year...What other choice is there?? ![]() ![]() Mornin hotsey totsey!!! ![]() Back atcha luscious! ![]() |
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Edited by
mg1959
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Fri 07/20/12 08:46 AM
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Not to get too into this but just curious. How many of you have owned, started or run a business? I'm not looking at this from the political side. I am only saying this because both sides that I am seeing here makes sense from their own point of view.
If you have been an employee looking at the biz picture it is completely different (opposite many times) from being an employer looking at it. There are 3 fundamental parts to any business if it were broken down to people. 1 the dreamer 2 the bast**d (bean counter, T crosser, devils advocate check point) 3 the doer It's very hard for any business to survive without having these 3 parts in balance and it's very rare for these 3 parts to be the same person. I don't know if this helps but my life is 24/7 business. Even when I spend time on mingle it is because I have something cooking that I am waiting on or I need a brain break. At the same time even though I have parts of #2 and #3 I'm the dreamer and it wouldn't take long for my biz to spiral into nonexistence wouldn't the two other parts being as fully dedicated as me. The other part to biz is the dating and consummating parts. Without the client I am done and without me being able to date the client to make the date into a marriage I am done. I think you guys are probably talking about political agendas that have a lot deeper roots than what I'm talking about but since this was biz I thought I would lend a voice of reality from a biz guy in here. continue on, play fair, and don't kill each other |
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Not to get too into this but just curious. How many of you have owned, started or run a business? I'm not looking at this from the political side. I am only saying this because both sides that I am seeing here makes sense from their own point of view. If you have been an employee looking at the biz picture it is completely different (opposite many times) from being an employer looking at it. There are 3 fundamental parts to any business if it were broken down to people. 1 the dreamer 2 the bast**d (bean counter, T crosser, devils advocate check point) 3 the doer It's very hard for any business to survive without having these 3 parts in balance and it's very rare for these 3 parts to be the same person. I don't know if this helps but my life is 24/7 business. Even when I spend time on mingle it is because I have something cooking that I am waiting on or I need a brain break. At the same time even though I have parts of #2 and #3 I'm the dreamer and it wouldn't take long for my biz to spiral into nonexistence wouldn't the two other parts being as fully dedicated as me. The other part to biz is the dating and consummating parts. Without the client I am done and without me being able to date the client to make the date into a marriage I am done. I think you guys are probably talking about political agendas that have a lot deeper roots than what I'm talking about but since this was biz I thought I would lend a voice of reality from a biz guy in here. continue on, play fair, and don't kill each other Hi MG...In early 1980's my ex husband and I started a commercial and industrial sandblasting and painting business...I was working as a field supervisor in the same type of business and my ex was a union Iron worker...Both of us were making excellent income, both of us had top of the line company benefits including perks like company cars....We put it all on the line to start our own company...We worked our azzes off 24/7, we made bucketloads of money...We shared that money with our crews who we worked side by side with...We never got greedy, we never got lazy.....The rewards we reaped from our sacrifice set us both up with the start of a secure retirement......The 8 years we ran our business cost us plenty, both emotionally and physically....I can honestly say that the ONLY reason the business was successful was because we both put in 150% effort 100% of the time....When we divorced in 1989, I sold my interest to him, he ultimately sold the company to his son...The point I am making here is the company lives on today and continues to feed the economy..... ![]() |
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I didn't know if my input helped at all in the thread but thought I would offer it. I also have not really been following the election stuff either so I wasn't sure where all of the conversation was coming from. I should probably be more into some of it but holy smokes batman this every 2 years lets change the country stuff wears this poor little brain out. I ran sound for Bush in his VP days in the south and got my ears fried by all the BS that was floating around in the sound bus. None of it probably had anything to do with what Bush was for but the buzz of these guys that talk the DC talk sure are all over the place and most of the time extremely one sided for the sake of their election and not policy itself it seemed to me. The political world is in a bubble all on it's own and I wonder how DC and the common man connect at all sometimes.
Saying this, I pledge I will vote for manO come november. |
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I didn't know if my input helped at all in the thread but thought I would offer it. I also have not really been following the election stuff either so I wasn't sure where all of the conversation was coming from. I should probably be more into some of it but holy smokes batman this every 2 years lets change the country stuff wears this poor little brain out. I ran sound for Bush in his VP days in the south and got my ears fried by all the BS that was floating around in the sound bus. None of it probably had anything to do with what Bush was for but the buzz of these guys that talk the DC talk sure are all over the place and most of the time extremely one sided for the sake of their election and not policy itself it seemed to me. The political world is in a bubble all on it's own and I wonder how DC and the common man connect at all sometimes. Saying this, I pledge I will vote for manO come november. Please DON"T Michael...I will not weed Michelle's veggie garden.... ![]() |
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I assure you Im thinking and Im referring to the topic of 'success',, plenty of businesses 'start up' but far fewer succeed well start up, and success are credited to the business owner, and they should be. i have never seen a customer (or a group of customers) take credit for opening a business for a business owner, and take credit for keeping it successful for him I have been employed before where we were regularly commended for helping keep the business SUCCESSFUL unless one only measures effort and contribution by 'dollar' signs,,,, but we can agree to disagree You just don't get it....not even close... ![]() Good employees are incredibly important, though. And if the Employer is not keeping up with making sure their employees are doing well, the employees will turn the customers away from the business. No customers = no successful business. |
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I assure you Im thinking and Im referring to the topic of 'success',, plenty of businesses 'start up' but far fewer succeed well start up, and success are credited to the business owner, and they should be. i have never seen a customer (or a group of customers) take credit for opening a business for a business owner, and take credit for keeping it successful for him I have been employed before where we were regularly commended for helping keep the business SUCCESSFUL unless one only measures effort and contribution by 'dollar' signs,,,, but we can agree to disagree You just don't get it....not even close... ![]() Good employees are incredibly important, though. And if the Employer is not keeping up with making sure their employees are doing well, the employees will turn the customers away from the business. No customers = no successful business. This my beauty is exactly right!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Wait a second!! I "invest in the infrastructure and education by paying taxes, so should I not be considered a "shareholder" in these businesses? I WANT my earnings on heir profets!!!!!!
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Wait a second!! I "invest in the infrastructure and education by paying taxes, so should I not be considered a "shareholder" in these businesses? I WANT my earnings on heir profets!!!!!! Well then I guess you'll have vote Obama....: ![]() ![]() |
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A couple of letters about the presidents latest insult....
‘If I had only known’ Having started a number of high-tech companies over the past two decades, I was shocked recently to find that I had been doing it all wrong. I had always followed the path of working 80-hour weeks, driving junker cars, giving up vacations, being away from home and family, sitting in cramped airplane seats, paying millions of dollars in corporate taxes each year, paying attorneys to deal with frivolous lawsuits, taking enormous risk by putting my house and other personal possessions up for collateral with the bank to get the money needed to make payroll, and hiring the best and brightest staff I could find to make the company a success. However, I was truly enlightened by our president (who has never worked in the private sector — let alone started any form of business and taken the associated personal risk). According to Obama, all I and other entrepreneurs needed to do was have the government use tax money to build a few bridges and roads. We then all stand around and hold hands in a circle as we watch an innovative new company spontaneously appear before our eyes. Based upon his unparalleled business acumen, I assume that his concept of entrepreneurship will allow me (like him) to be exempt from any laws that I prefer to ignore, and that I will also get specially outfitted 747 aircraft for monthly vacations (two per family, so as not to inconvenience our spouse by having to leave at the same time). Gosh, If I had only known there was an easier way to start a business. David Gardner, Colorado Springs... Now, it's personal. Our naïf of a president has again insulted every American who has worked hard and attained some measure of success. President Barack Obama last week again belittled business owners, diminishing their industry, dismissing their perseverance and deriding their ingenuity. Yes, this is very personal. "If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help," Obama said at a Virginia campaign event. "There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges." Of course somebody helped us. In my case, it wasn't a community organizer. David Johnson worked hard to buy the food Dorothy Johnson prepared for me and my brothers. Ralph Sims, my maternal grandfather, helped me get a job in construction, hefting shovels to dig ditches in 100-degree heat. The federal government didn't lift a single shovel. Gladys Sims pinched pennies and counted quarters so she and my mother could stock my pantry on trips to Cookeville, where I was the first in our family to attend a university. My irascible uncle, Arley Johnson, hired me to work summers servicing swimming pools so I could pay my own way at Tennessee Technological University. Norma Blair, my high school English teacher, taught me to write. Julia Householder, my history teacher, challenged me to think. Bill Williams, my science teacher, took me to the University of Tennessee, where I first set foot on a college campus. Chick Graning, my high school football coach, later hired me to coach college football before recommending me for my first job in financial services. Of course many more helped, but not one did it for the money. Not one was part of some grand plan by a Harvard graduate who can barely mask his Marxism. They did it for love. Obama's biggest insult was to business owners. "If you've got a business — you didn't build that," Obama said. "Somebody else made that happen." Is he nuts? Seriously. Is our president insane? Or just stupid? Is this why we've never seen his college transcripts? Would they reveal his ignorance in its totality? I've worked with business people for more than a quarter of a century now. Want to know why hiring is slow? The people who took the risk, worked their behinds off and built something from nothing feel belittled by this president. He hates them, and they don't trust him. Obama speaks of "paying it forward." Well, my family did. Those teachers did. Now many, many, many of us are paying it forward to our kids, to our churches, to our communities. And this president has the audacity to equate taxation with family, friends and community? He insults us all and the American Dream. And about those roads, Mr. President, my family and I worked hard to make the damn money, to pay our share of the damn taxes to build those damn roads. Sorry. But now, it's personal. Greg Johnson, Knoxville.... |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Sat 07/21/12 09:05 AM
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the roads arent built by ONE persons taxes, its a community
and not everyone has the PERSONAL help, from a teacher, or a friend, or a business person,,, but everyone NEEDS Some help sometimes ,,,there is nothing insulting about those truths... unless people choose to feel insulted pretend the word 'alone' was at the end of the sentence and be done with it already if you did it, you didnt do it ALONE (meaning with NO help, regardless of where the help came from) success doesnt happen in a vacuum, it takes the right products and services, the right management, the right patrons, the right employees and doesnt happen with the mere and singular effort of ONE person |
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the roads arent built by ONE persons taxes, its a community and not everyone has the PERSONAL help, from a teacher, or a friend, or a business person,,, but everyone NEEDS Some help sometimes ,,,there is nothing insulting about those truths... unless people choose to feel insulted pretend the word 'alone' was at the end of the sentence and be done with it already if you did it, you didnt do it ALONE (meaning with NO help, regardless of where the help came from) success doesnt happen in a vacuum, it takes the right products and services, the right management, the right patrons, the right employees and doesnt happen with the mere and singular effort of ONE person Before any of the things you list can matter, it takes the right INDIVIDUAL....If this were not true, everyone who wanted optimum income and financial security would simply start their own "successful" company ...You couldn't be more wrong about who is responsible for the success or failure of a business ... |
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the roads arent built by ONE persons taxes, its a community and not everyone has the PERSONAL help, from a teacher, or a friend, or a business person,,, but everyone NEEDS Some help sometimes ,,,there is nothing insulting about those truths... unless people choose to feel insulted pretend the word 'alone' was at the end of the sentence and be done with it already if you did it, you didnt do it ALONE (meaning with NO help, regardless of where the help came from) success doesnt happen in a vacuum, it takes the right products and services, the right management, the right patrons, the right employees and doesnt happen with the mere and singular effort of ONE person Before any of the things you list can matter, it takes the right INDIVIDUAL....If this were not true, everyone who wanted optimum income and financial security would simply start their own "successful" company ...You couldn't be more wrong about who is responsible for the success or failure of a business ... it STARTS somewhere,, everything does, but that does not mean it always ENDS the same place THAT Requires a number of other things to happen and the right PEOPLE to make it happen |
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the roads arent built by ONE persons taxes, its a community and not everyone has the PERSONAL help, from a teacher, or a friend, or a business person,,, but everyone NEEDS Some help sometimes ,,,there is nothing insulting about those truths... unless people choose to feel insulted pretend the word 'alone' was at the end of the sentence and be done with it already if you did it, you didnt do it ALONE (meaning with NO help, regardless of where the help came from) success doesnt happen in a vacuum, it takes the right products and services, the right management, the right patrons, the right employees and doesnt happen with the mere and singular effort of ONE person Before any of the things you list can matter, it takes the right INDIVIDUAL....If this were not true, everyone who wanted optimum income and financial security would simply start their own "successful" company ...You couldn't be more wrong about who is responsible for the success or failure of a business ... it STARTS somewhere,, everything does, but that does not mean it always ENDS the same place THAT Requires a number of other things to happen and the right PEOPLE to make it happen But the person who claims ownership of that business has ultimate control of the day to day running, whether successful or not, it falls to the owner or president if it's a corporation...I am beginning to see why you give Obama so much rope....The buck always stops somewhere...If you don't believe me, ask Oprah..... |
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