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a bonus at christmas, a cake on your birthday, a health care plan, these are some of the things the business owner can give to employees. the success of the business is still the effort the business owner puts in to keep PRODUCTIVE employees around in some cases the employee is giving an option to buy into the business, and i guarantee i guarantee that when an employee puts money in, the success of the business matters more (bulldog double guarantee - patent pending) it was the CEO/Owner and like I said, the customers see the EMPLOYEES and deal with the EMPLOYEES< the funding is not the only factor to SUCCESS this is true and good employees also are contributing to the success of an owners business... the success is due to the owner knowing which employees are productive and which are not the good employees you believe to be contributing to the success of the business are there because the OWNER chooses to continue employing them. the bad employees are found and terminated by the OWNER. an employee can choose not to perform at the standard set by the OWNER, and will most likely be terminated by the OWNER. thus the business is successful due to the OWNER's efforts to keep it that way after the OWNER started the business The employer of a larger company has to be careful about firing "special" people or the ACLU will file suits and could put the Employer out of business and all the other ordinary workers out of jobs. |
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no you are wrong. who pays the builders, contractors, grant writers, road maintenance, etc,, and once they have been paid, they dont put an effort into MAINTAINING unless they are paid again in some cases, the business can sell to people who are not local. and in some cases they don't sell locally at all try to start a business before you open your mouth. see how many people "contribute" and Im not sure which villages you are used to, but I have known MANY business that the neighborhood has supported BECAUSE they have become a part of the family and because of not just the products but often time the EMPLOYEES service,,,,,,,,, this has nothing to do with the start up. and many local businesses have had to close because the only people patronizing were locals with little expendable income starting up does not equal SUCCEEDING money changes hands, so what the owner doesnt MAINTAIN unless he is continuing to turn profit either,, that has nothing to do with the point that noone SNEEZES out success by THEMSELF,,,, why does boycotting have an impact? Because of patrons stop SUPPORTING the services and products the business cant SUCCEED. and their 'support' is not always tied to how great a product or service is,, some people may not get supported because the community doesnt like THEM PERSONALLY and likewise, if the ommunity does like the person/people involved, they patronize and help make the business 'successful'  You can't be serious.....We're talking about successful business and how the left is undermining INDIVIDUAL achievement to push their social agendas...It's insane...
perception is subjective I see it as not 'undermining' individual achievement, but rather aknowledging how achievement is not obtained in a vaccuum without others,,,, Perception!!!!!...This is not about perception, it's about SPOKEN WORDS, spoken and recorded for posterity, spoken by a lame President.....It's about FACTS, not perception.... how one interprets the message of words is always perception the FACTS are just the quote,, the paraphrase or opinion about what they imply,, is perception |
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FACTS/SPOKEN WORDS
"There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own. Nobody! You build a factory out there, good for you, but I want to be clear. You moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for...You hired workers that the rest of us paid to educate." PERCEPTION This is what she is really saying...PEOPLE WHO RUN BUSINESS ARE BENEFITING FROM THINGS PAID FOR BY OTHER PEOPLE! Like these same people didn't pay or aren't paying taxes |
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a bonus at christmas, a cake on your birthday, a health care plan, these are some of the things the business owner can give to employees. the success of the business is still the effort the business owner puts in to keep PRODUCTIVE employees around in some cases the employee is giving an option to buy into the business, and i guarantee i guarantee that when an employee puts money in, the success of the business matters more (bulldog double guarantee - patent pending) it was the CEO/Owner and like I said, the customers see the EMPLOYEES and deal with the EMPLOYEES< the funding is not the only factor to SUCCESS this is true and good employees also are contributing to the success of an owners business... the success is due to the owner knowing which employees are productive and which are not the good employees you believe to be contributing to the success of the business are there because the OWNER chooses to continue employing them. the bad employees are found and terminated by the OWNER. an employee can choose not to perform at the standard set by the OWNER, and will most likely be terminated by the OWNER. thus the business is successful due to the OWNER's efforts to keep it that way after the OWNER started the business I dont understand why the presence of choice makes the reality of joint effort any more 'mythical' If I have a life threatening illness, and I CHOOSE the right specialist, who works on me only because he is going to get paid, and I improve and recover can I then say that recovery was all because of ME, because I had to make the right choices for it to happen? and without paying that doctor he would not have done the 'job' that assisted my recovery? You don't understand because you don't understand business...Your analogies aren't even analogies.... |
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Edited by
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a bonus at christmas, a cake on your birthday, a health care plan, these are some of the things the business owner can give to employees. the success of the business is still the effort the business owner puts in to keep PRODUCTIVE employees around in some cases the employee is giving an option to buy into the business, and i guarantee i guarantee that when an employee puts money in, the success of the business matters more (bulldog double guarantee - patent pending) it was the CEO/Owner and like I said, the customers see the EMPLOYEES and deal with the EMPLOYEES< the funding is not the only factor to SUCCESS this is true and good employees also are contributing to the success of an owners business... the success is due to the owner knowing which employees are productive and which are not the good employees you believe to be contributing to the success of the business are there because the OWNER chooses to continue employing them. the bad employees are found and terminated by the OWNER. an employee can choose not to perform at the standard set by the OWNER, and will most likely be terminated by the OWNER. thus the business is successful due to the OWNER's efforts to keep it that way after the OWNER started the business I dont understand why the presence of choice makes the reality of joint effort any more 'mythical' If I have a life threatening illness, and I CHOOSE the right specialist, who works on me only because he is going to get paid, and I improve and recover can I then say that recovery was all because of ME, because I had to make the right choices for it to happen? and without paying that doctor he would not have done the 'job' that assisted my recovery? You don't understand because you don't understand business...Your analogies aren't even analogies.... because they dont line up with an opinion, doesnt make them any less of an analogy,,, let me apply it to an easier and more popular bit of sensationalism when seal 6 took out bin laden,, how many people said that the president shouldnt take credit? by the logic that him making the CHOICES should equate to him having DONE IT,,,then he would surely be entirely and solely to be given blame/credit for that moment...right? but no, even then, I said and he has said, that he didnt do it ALONE,, I always repeat a president does little ALONE Because he must work with congress yet people love to point fingers at one person, and apparently to give all credit to one person too,, I just think that is intellectually dishonest,,,and will continue to disagree with that line of reasoning,,, |
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no you are wrong. who pays the builders, contractors, grant writers, road maintenance, etc,, and once they have been paid, they dont put an effort into MAINTAINING unless they are paid again in some cases, the business can sell to people who are not local. and in some cases they don't sell locally at all try to start a business before you open your mouth. see how many people "contribute" and Im not sure which villages you are used to, but I have known MANY business that the neighborhood has supported BECAUSE they have become a part of the family and because of not just the products but often time the EMPLOYEES service,,,,,,,,, this has nothing to do with the start up. and many local businesses have had to close because the only people patronizing were locals with little expendable income starting up does not equal SUCCEEDING money changes hands, so what the owner doesnt MAINTAIN unless he is continuing to turn profit either,, that has nothing to do with the point that noone SNEEZES out success by THEMSELF,,,, why does boycotting have an impact? Because of patrons stop SUPPORTING the services and products the business cant SUCCEED. and their 'support' is not always tied to how great a product or service is,, some people may not get supported because the community doesnt like THEM PERSONALLY and likewise, if the ommunity does like the person/people involved, they patronize and help make the business 'successful' You can't be serious.....We're talking about successful business and how the left is undermining INDIVIDUAL achievement to push their social agendas...It's insane...
perception is subjective I see it as not 'undermining' individual achievement, but rather aknowledging how achievement is not obtained in a vaccuum without others,,,, Perception!!!!!...This is not about perception, it's about SPOKEN WORDS, spoken and recorded for posterity, spoken by a lame President.....It's about FACTS, not perception.... how one interprets the message of words is always perception the FACTS are just the quote,, the paraphrase or opinion about what they imply,, is perception His message was not interpretive, nor was the Harvard professor's when she mimicked him... |
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a bonus at christmas, a cake on your birthday, a health care plan, these are some of the things the business owner can give to employees. the success of the business is still the effort the business owner puts in to keep PRODUCTIVE employees around in some cases the employee is giving an option to buy into the business, and i guarantee i guarantee that when an employee puts money in, the success of the business matters more (bulldog double guarantee - patent pending) it was the CEO/Owner and like I said, the customers see the EMPLOYEES and deal with the EMPLOYEES< the funding is not the only factor to SUCCESS this is true and good employees also are contributing to the success of an owners business... the success is due to the owner knowing which employees are productive and which are not the good employees you believe to be contributing to the success of the business are there because the OWNER chooses to continue employing them. the bad employees are found and terminated by the OWNER. an employee can choose not to perform at the standard set by the OWNER, and will most likely be terminated by the OWNER. thus the business is successful due to the OWNER's efforts to keep it that way after the OWNER started the business I dont understand why the presence of choice makes the reality of joint effort any more 'mythical' If I have a life threatening illness, and I CHOOSE the right specialist, who works on me only because he is going to get paid, and I improve and recover can I then say that recovery was all because of ME, because I had to make the right choices for it to happen? and without paying that doctor he would not have done the 'job' that assisted my recovery? You don't understand because you don't understand business...Your analogies aren't even analogies.... because they dont line up with an opinion, doesnt make them any less of an analogy,,, No because they do not apply.....not in any way.... |
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Perception!!!!!...This is not about perception, it's about SPOKEN WORDS, spoken and recorded for posterity, spoken by a lame President.....It's about FACTS, not perception.... Hussein must have been trying to speak without his telepromptersssss. How many he got for backups? The jackwad reminds me of a bumper sticker. Liken to Bill Clinton. 'Why doesn't somebody give him a BJ so we can just impeach him? |
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I dont understand why the presence of choice makes the reality of joint effort any more 'mythical' If I have a life threatening illness, and I CHOOSE the right specialist, who works on me only because he is going to get paid, and I improve and recover can I then say that recovery was all because of ME, because I had to make the right choices for it to happen? the two are unrelated, and neither instance is a joint effort. if you took a business class, i have serious concerns about the teacher a business is the sole effort of the owner. he funds every aspect of the effort from the ground up, and keeps funding it. if the business works, then he is responsible to keep it working. the success of the business is credited to him if you are sick, your decision to seek treatment or not is your responsibility. no one will force treatment on you. the treatment you choose may or may not be effective in a cure for what ails you. your body's response to the treatment will not be credited to anyone (unless there was some traumatic event that emergency treatment was needed, than one could say that an individual or individuals were responsible for saving your life) |
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FACTS/SPOKEN WORDS "There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own. Nobody! You build a factory out there, good for you, but I want to be clear. You moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for...You hired workers that the rest of us paid to educate." PERCEPTION This is what she is really saying...PEOPLE WHO RUN BUSINESS ARE BENEFITING FROM THINGS PAID FOR BY OTHER PEOPLE! Like these same people didn't pay or aren't paying taxes You want to try and justify rhetoric and spin with more spin...
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Perception!!!!!...This is not about perception, it's about SPOKEN WORDS, spoken and recorded for posterity, spoken by a lame President.....It's about FACTS, not perception.... Hussein must have been trying to speak without his telepromptersssss. How many he got for backups? The jackwad reminds me of a bumper sticker. Liken to Bill Clinton. 'Why doesn't somebody give him a BJ so we can just impeach him? Why do we need a BJ?? ..just pick from the list he's creating.... 
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msharmony
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Thu 07/19/12 07:51 PM
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 I dont understand why the presence of choice makes the reality of joint effort any more 'mythical' If I have a life threatening illness, and I CHOOSE the right specialist, who works on me only because he is going to get paid, and I improve and recover can I then say that recovery was all because of ME, because I had to make the right choices for it to happen? the two are unrelated, and neither instance is a joint effort. if you took a business class, i have serious concerns about the teacher a business is the sole effort of the owner. he funds every aspect of the effort from the ground up, and keeps funding it. if the business works, then he is responsible to keep it working. the success of the business is credited to him if you are sick, your decision to seek treatment or not is your responsibility. no one will force treatment on you. the treatment you choose may or may not be effective in a cure for what ails you. your body's response to the treatment will not be credited to anyone (unless there was some traumatic event that emergency treatment was needed, than one could say that an individual or individuals were responsible for saving your life) ok, I guess thats why all businesses are 'sole proprietorships' and we have no partnerships, or corporations and all owners are hands on making the decisions about hiring , expenses,, etc,,, they dont hire managers, or accountants, etc,,, yeah, you are right, I must write my business professor and tell him to ditch those books they were using ]
successful businesses are successful because ONE person takes on all the work , research, and effort, and funding to make them that way,,, ,,boy, that will be a much shorter BA course,,,thanx |
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your use of the word "all" makes your argument void. try again
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your use of the word "all" makes your argument void. try again as does your use of the word 'every' and 'sole' in a business is the sole effort of the owner. he funds every aspect of the effort from the ground up, and keeps funding it. if the business when you try again, I will 
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I dont understand why the presence of choice makes the reality of joint effort any more 'mythical' If I have a life threatening illness, and I CHOOSE the right specialist, who works on me only because he is going to get paid, and I improve and recover can I then say that recovery was all because of ME, because I had to make the right choices for it to happen? the two are unrelated, and neither instance is a joint effort. if you took a business class, i have serious concerns about the teacher a business is the sole effort of the owner. he funds every aspect of the effort from the ground up, and keeps funding it. if the business works, then he is responsible to keep it working. the success of the business is credited to him if you are sick, your decision to seek treatment or not is your responsibility. no one will force treatment on you. the treatment you choose may or may not be effective in a cure for what ails you. your body's response to the treatment will not be credited to anyone (unless there was some traumatic event that emergency treatment was needed, than one could say that an individual or individuals were responsible for saving your life) ok, I guess thats why all businesses are 'sole proprietorships' and we have no partnerships, or corporations and all owners are hands on making the decisions about hiring , expenses,, etc,,, they dont hire managers, or accountants, etc,,, yeah, you are right, I must write my business professor and tell him to ditch those books they were using ]
successful businesses are successful because ONE person takes on all the work , research, and effort, and funding to make them that way,,, ,,boy, that will be a much shorter BA course,,,thanx Oh and PS...I am a business major...that's not where you learn....  That's where you get the piece of paper you need to go out, get hired, and create your own opportunity to learn about how business works....
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I dont understand why the presence of choice makes the reality of joint effort any more 'mythical' If I have a life threatening illness, and I CHOOSE the right specialist, who works on me only because he is going to get paid, and I improve and recover can I then say that recovery was all because of ME, because I had to make the right choices for it to happen? the two are unrelated, and neither instance is a joint effort. if you took a business class, i have serious concerns about the teacher a business is the sole effort of the owner. he funds every aspect of the effort from the ground up, and keeps funding it. if the business works, then he is responsible to keep it working. the success of the business is credited to him if you are sick, your decision to seek treatment or not is your responsibility. no one will force treatment on you. the treatment you choose may or may not be effective in a cure for what ails you. your body's response to the treatment will not be credited to anyone (unless there was some traumatic event that emergency treatment was needed, than one could say that an individual or individuals were responsible for saving your life) ok, I guess thats why all businesses are 'sole proprietorships' and we have no partnerships, or corporations and all owners are hands on making the decisions about hiring , expenses,, etc,,, they dont hire managers, or accountants, etc,,, yeah, you are right, I must write my business professor and tell him to ditch those books they were using ]
successful businesses are successful because ONE person takes on all the work , research, and effort, and funding to make them that way,,, ,,boy, that will be a much shorter BA course,,,thanx Oh and PS...I am a business major...that's not where you learn.... That's where you get the piece of paper you need to go out, get hired, and create your own opportunity to learn about how business works....
no kidding,,, so am I , and I agree, experience along with READING goes a long way,,, |
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I dont understand why the presence of choice makes the reality of joint effort any more 'mythical' If I have a life threatening illness, and I CHOOSE the right specialist, who works on me only because he is going to get paid, and I improve and recover can I then say that recovery was all because of ME, because I had to make the right choices for it to happen? the two are unrelated, and neither instance is a joint effort. if you took a business class, i have serious concerns about the teacher a business is the sole effort of the owner. he funds every aspect of the effort from the ground up, and keeps funding it. if the business works, then he is responsible to keep it working. the success of the business is credited to him if you are sick, your decision to seek treatment or not is your responsibility. no one will force treatment on you. the treatment you choose may or may not be effective in a cure for what ails you. your body's response to the treatment will not be credited to anyone (unless there was some traumatic event that emergency treatment was needed, than one could say that an individual or individuals were responsible for saving your life) ok, I guess thats why all businesses are 'sole proprietorships' and we have no partnerships, or corporations and all owners are hands on making the decisions about hiring , expenses,, etc,,, they dont hire managers, or accountants, etc,,, yeah, you are right, I must write my business professor and tell him to ditch those books they were using ]
successful businesses are successful because ONE person takes on all the work , research, and effort, and funding to make them that way,,, ,,boy, that will be a much shorter BA course,,,thanx Oh and PS...I am a business major...that's not where you learn.... That's where you get the piece of paper you need to go out, get hired, and create your own opportunity to learn about how business works....
no kidding,,, so am I , and I agree, experience along with READING goes a long way,,, Not really...
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show me ANY business that is not the sole effort of the owner, or ANY business that every aspect of said business is not funded by the owner.
the only business that might fit in could be a franchise. there the business owner is betting on the success of an already established business. yet even then the franchise owner is responsible for funding (much more due to payment for the franchise), he may catch a small break on advertising and word of mouth. still i see the franchise owner responsible for the success or downfall of his business in all, your statement "there is nothing mythical about the reality that it takes a VILLAGE, ,not just to raise a child, but to raise up a BUSINESS without the village,, you just will have a building that you have to lose or sell,,," doesn't hold water |
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I dont understand why the presence of choice makes the reality of joint effort any more 'mythical' If I have a life threatening illness, and I CHOOSE the right specialist, who works on me only because he is going to get paid, and I improve and recover can I then say that recovery was all because of ME, because I had to make the right choices for it to happen? the two are unrelated, and neither instance is a joint effort. if you took a business class, i have serious concerns about the teacher a business is the sole effort of the owner. he funds every aspect of the effort from the ground up, and keeps funding it. if the business works, then he is responsible to keep it working. the success of the business is credited to him if you are sick, your decision to seek treatment or not is your responsibility. no one will force treatment on you. the treatment you choose may or may not be effective in a cure for what ails you. your body's response to the treatment will not be credited to anyone (unless there was some traumatic event that emergency treatment was needed, than one could say that an individual or individuals were responsible for saving your life) ok, I guess thats why all businesses are 'sole proprietorships' and we have no partnerships, or corporations and all owners are hands on making the decisions about hiring , expenses,, etc,,, they dont hire managers, or accountants, etc,,, yeah, you are right, I must write my business professor and tell him to ditch those books they were using ]
successful businesses are successful because ONE person takes on all the work , research, and effort, and funding to make them that way,,, ,,boy, that will be a much shorter BA course,,,thanx Oh and PS...I am a business major...that's not where you learn.... That's where you get the piece of paper you need to go out, get hired, and create your own opportunity to learn about how business works....
no kidding,,, so am I , and I agree, experience along with READING goes a long way,,, Not really...
lol,, not really? so which part doesnt help, experience,, or reading? I always thought we were much more limited in what we can learn from personal 'experiences' and books expand our knowledge beyond what we may be in a position to 'experience' but perhaps, in line with the 'only one' line of logic, others feel only ONE of the above (Reading, experience) Are significant to progress and success.... |
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show me ANY business that is not the sole effort of the owner, or ANY business that every aspect of said business is not funded by the owner. the only business that might fit in could be a franchise. there the business owner is betting on the success of an already established business. yet even then the franchise owner is responsible for funding (much more due to payment for the franchise), he may catch a small break on advertising and word of mouth. still i see the franchise owner responsible for the success or downfall of his business in all, your statement "there is nothing mythical about the reality that it takes a VILLAGE, ,not just to raise a child, but to raise up a BUSINESS without the village,, you just will have a building that you have to lose or sell,,," doesn't hold water I am tiring of the topic research partnerships, corporations, and public trading,,,, funding in a sole proprietorship may come EXCLUSIVELY from one person, in any other business though, it comes from more than one source,,,, |
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