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there is nothing mythical about the reality that it takes a VILLAGE, ,not just to raise a child, but to raise up a BUSINESS without the village,, you just will have a building that you have to lose or sell,,, WTF? a business man (or woman) puts in 100% of the effort. the "village" either patronizes the business or they don't. they have no interest in the welfare of the business, only the product/service the business provides. if the product/service becomes undesirable, the village doesn't band together to make sure the business survives, they patronize another business wrong, the employees dont put effort in? are you serious? the builders, contractors, grant writers, road maintenance, etc,, dont put an effort into MAINTAINING And BUILDING That business? ,,yes a VILLAGE makes a business successful or not and Im not sure which villages you are used to, but I have known MANY business that the neighborhood has supported BECAUSE they have become a part of the family and because of not just the products but often time the EMPLOYEES service,,,,,,,,, You are dead wrong .....The success or failure of a business is the SOLE responsibility of the person who started it....It all flows from that one persons determination, acumen, their ability to hire and train competent employees, make payroll, handle successfully every single aspect of day to day running of the business by picking the "right" people, knowing how and when and to whom to delegate!!! .....It all flows from one original source...Village my azz!!....Starting a new business is a 27/7 RESPONSIBILITY that falls SOLELY on the business owner... 
yep, and sobering up STARTS With getting a sponsor and putting in the work but that doesnt mean the sponsor did it alone for you and healing from an accident , STARTS With the right doctor, and following up with proper care, but that doesnt mean the doctor DID it all for you either,,,, |
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Retrospect
Tis a beautiful thing innit? 
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there is nothing mythical about the reality that it takes a VILLAGE, ,not just to raise a child, but to raise up a BUSINESS without the village,, you just will have a building that you have to lose or sell,,, WTF? a business man (or woman) puts in 100% of the effort. the "village" either patronizes the business or they don't. they have no interest in the welfare of the business, only the product/service the business provides. if the product/service becomes undesirable, the village doesn't band together to make sure the business survives, they patronize another business wrong, the employees dont put effort in? are you serious? the builders, contractors, grant writers, road maintenance, etc,, dont put an effort into MAINTAINING And BUILDING That business? ,,yes a VILLAGE makes a business successful or not and Im not sure which villages you are used to, but I have known MANY business that the neighborhood has supported BECAUSE they have become a part of the family and because of not just the products but often time the EMPLOYEES service,,,,,,,,, You are dead wrong .....The success or failure of a business is the SOLE responsibility of the person who started it....It all flows from that one persons determination, acumen, their ability to hire and train competent employees, make payroll, handle successfully every single aspect of day to day running of the business by picking the "right" people, knowing how and when and to whom to delegate!!! .....It all flows from one original source...Village my azz!!....Starting a new business is a 27/7 RESPONSIBILITY that falls SOLELY on the business owner...
we seem to keep exchanging 'starting ' a business with having a 'successful' business most business that are 'started' do not succeed those that do succeed have something more than just an OWNER putting in the responsibility, if that was all it took all the ones who start would succeed,,,, |
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no you are wrong. who pays the builders, contractors, grant writers, road maintenance, etc,, and once they have been paid, they dont put an effort into MAINTAINING unless they are paid again in some cases, the business can sell to people who are not local. and in some cases they don't sell locally at all try to start a business before you open your mouth. see how many people "contribute" and Im not sure which villages you are used to, but I have known MANY business that the neighborhood has supported BECAUSE they have become a part of the family and because of not just the products but often time the EMPLOYEES service,,,,,,,,, this has nothing to do with the start up. and many local businesses have had to close because the only people patronizing were locals with little expendable income starting up does not equal SUCCEEDING money changes hands, so what the owner doesnt MAINTAIN unless he is continuing to turn profit either,, that has nothing to do with the point that noone SNEEZES out success by THEMSELF,,,, why does boycotting have an impact? Because of patrons stop SUPPORTING the services and products the business cant SUCCEED. and their 'support' is not always tied to how great a product or service is,, some people may not get supported because the community doesnt like THEM PERSONALLY and likewise, if the ommunity does like the person/people involved, they patronize and help make the business 'successful'  You can't be serious.....We're talking about successful business and how the left is undermining INDIVIDUAL achievement to push their social agendas...It's insane...
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no you are wrong. who pays the builders, contractors, grant writers, road maintenance, etc,, and once they have been paid, they dont put an effort into MAINTAINING unless they are paid again in some cases, the business can sell to people who are not local. and in some cases they don't sell locally at all try to start a business before you open your mouth. see how many people "contribute" and Im not sure which villages you are used to, but I have known MANY business that the neighborhood has supported BECAUSE they have become a part of the family and because of not just the products but often time the EMPLOYEES service,,,,,,,,, this has nothing to do with the start up. and many local businesses have had to close because the only people patronizing were locals with little expendable income starting up does not equal SUCCEEDING money changes hands, so what the owner doesnt MAINTAIN unless he is continuing to turn profit either,, that has nothing to do with the point that noone SNEEZES out success by THEMSELF,,,, why does boycotting have an impact? Because of patrons stop SUPPORTING the services and products the business cant SUCCEED. and their 'support' is not always tied to how great a product or service is,, some people may not get supported because the community doesnt like THEM PERSONALLY and likewise, if the ommunity does like the person/people involved, they patronize and help make the business 'successful' You can't be serious.....We're talking about successful business and how the left is undermining INDIVIDUAL achievement to push their social agendas...It's insane...
perception is subjective I see it as not 'undermining' individual achievement, but rather aknowledging how achievement is not obtained in a vaccuum without others,,,, |
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starting up does not equal SUCCEEDING money changes hands, so whatyour argument hinges on the fact that money is changing hands the owner doesnt MAINTAIN unless he is continuing to turn profit either,, that has nothing to do with the point that noone SNEEZES out success by THEMSELF,,,,unless the business has investors who are working there, the business hinges on the one person who is putting up the time, effort and the money why does boycotting have an impact? Because of patrons stop SUPPORTING the services and products the business cant SUCCEED. and their 'support' is not always tied to how great a product or service is,, some people may not get supported because the community doesnt like THEM PERSONALLY and likewise, if the ommunity does like the person/people involved, they patronize and help make the business 'successful' you have some idea of a business once it's going, but lack knowledge in what it takes to get there if you take some time to think before you post, you won't have to edit your posts as much. making your posts easier to respond to I assure you Im thinking and Im referring to the topic of 'success',, plenty of businesses 'start up' but far fewer succeed Well I beg to differ....enough have succeeded to support how many welfare recipients....how many social programs...how many roads, how many bridges, how many schools.... 
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Obummer is wrong. I built the roads through my taxes.
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starting up does not equal SUCCEEDING money changes hands, so whatyour argument hinges on the fact that money is changing hands the owner doesnt MAINTAIN unless he is continuing to turn profit either,, that has nothing to do with the point that noone SNEEZES out success by THEMSELF,,,,unless the business has investors who are working there, the business hinges on the one person who is putting up the time, effort and the money why does boycotting have an impact? Because of patrons stop SUPPORTING the services and products the business cant SUCCEED. and their 'support' is not always tied to how great a product or service is,, some people may not get supported because the community doesnt like THEM PERSONALLY and likewise, if the ommunity does like the person/people involved, they patronize and help make the business 'successful' you have some idea of a business once it's going, but lack knowledge in what it takes to get there if you take some time to think before you post, you won't have to edit your posts as much. making your posts easier to respond to I assure you Im thinking and Im referring to the topic of 'success',, plenty of businesses 'start up' but far fewer succeed Well I beg to differ....enough have succeeded to support how many welfare recipients....how many social programs...how many roads, how many bridges, how many schools....
success is not accomplished in a vaccuum,,,we will just agree to differ,,, |
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starting up does not equal SUCCEEDING money changes hands, so whatyour argument hinges on the fact that money is changing hands the owner doesnt MAINTAIN unless he is continuing to turn profit either,, that has nothing to do with the point that noone SNEEZES out success by THEMSELF,,,,unless the business has investors who are working there, the business hinges on the one person who is putting up the time, effort and the money why does boycotting have an impact? Because of patrons stop SUPPORTING the services and products the business cant SUCCEED. and their 'support' is not always tied to how great a product or service is,, some people may not get supported because the community doesnt like THEM PERSONALLY and likewise, if the ommunity does like the person/people involved, they patronize and help make the business 'successful' you have some idea of a business once it's going, but lack knowledge in what it takes to get there if you take some time to think before you post, you won't have to edit your posts as much. making your posts easier to respond to I assure you Im thinking and Im referring to the topic of 'success',, plenty of businesses 'start up' but far fewer succeed Well I beg to differ....enough have succeeded to support how many welfare recipients....how many social programs...how many roads, how many bridges, how many schools....
success is not accomplished in a vaccuum,,,we will just agree to differ,,, |
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Obummer is wrong. I built the roads through my taxes. you helped to FUND the roads with milions of others,,and then others physically BUILT them, and others still laid the plans for them,,,, |
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Edited by
esebulldog
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I have been employed before where we were regularly commended for helping keep the business SUCCESSFUL commended by who? could it have been by the business owner, or on his command via the business manager he controls unless one only measures effort and contribution by 'dollar' signs,,,, a bonus at christmas, a cake on your birthday, a health care plan, these are some of the things the business owner can give to employees. the success of the business is still the effort the business owner puts in to keep PRODUCTIVE employees around in some cases the employee is given an option to buy into the business, and i guarantee i guarantee that when an employee puts money in, the success of the business matters more (bulldog double guarantee - patent pending) |
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I have been employed before where we were regularly commended for helping keep the business SUCCESSFUL commended by who? could it have been by the business owner, or on his command via the business manager he controls unless one only measures effort and contribution by 'dollar' signs,,,, a bonus at christmas, a cake on your birthday, a health care plan, these are some of the things the business owner can give to employees. the success of the business is still the effort the business owner puts in to keep PRODUCTIVE employees around in some cases the employee is giving an option to buy into the business, and i guarantee i guarantee that when an employee puts money in, the success of the business matters more (bulldog double guarantee - patent pending) it was the CEO/Owner and like I said, the customers see the EMPLOYEES and deal with the EMPLOYEES< the funding is not the only factor to SUCCESS and good employees also are contributing to the success of an owners business... |
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I assure you Im thinking and Im referring to the topic of 'success',, plenty of businesses 'start up' but far fewer succeed well start up, and success are credited to the business owner, and they should be. i have never seen a customer (or a group of customers) take credit for opening a business for a business owner, and take credit for keeping it successful for him I have been employed before where we were regularly commended for helping keep the business SUCCESSFUL unless one only measures effort and contribution by 'dollar' signs,,,, but we can agree to disagree You just don't get it....not even close...  Employees do not determine the success or failure of a business UNLESS those in control (owners) allow it....It's not a hard concept, it just goes against Obama rhetoric so you have to reach for excuses.....
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Thu 07/19/12 07:21 PM
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I assure you Im thinking and Im referring to the topic of 'success',, plenty of businesses 'start up' but far fewer succeed well start up, and success are credited to the business owner, and they should be. i have never seen a customer (or a group of customers) take credit for opening a business for a business owner, and take credit for keeping it successful for him I have been employed before where we were regularly commended for helping keep the business SUCCESSFUL unless one only measures effort and contribution by 'dollar' signs,,,, but we can agree to disagree You just don't get it....not even close... Employees do not determine the success or failure of a business UNLESS those in control (owners) allow it....It's not a hard concept, it just goes against Obama rhetoric so you have to reach for excuses.....
no, I have actually been raised to believe in the 'village' principle which OBama has apparently been raised to believe too neither of us need to base that belief off of each other I dont know how the employees could NOT affect the success of a business, but Im done trying to understand that type of logic,,,, except I believe it is held by those who measure everything in dollar signs,, including 'contribution' and effort |
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I assure you Im thinking and Im referring to the topic of 'success',, plenty of businesses 'start up' but far fewer succeed well start up, and success are credited to the business owner, and they should be. i have never seen a customer (or a group of customers) take credit for opening a business for a business owner, and take credit for keeping it successful for him I have been employed before where we were regularly commended for helping keep the business SUCCESSFUL unless one only measures effort and contribution by 'dollar' signs,,,, but we can agree to disagree You just don't get it....not even close... Employees do not determine the success or failure of a business UNLESS those in control (owners) allow it....It's not a hard concept, it just goes against Obama rhetoric so you have to reach for excuses.....
no, I have actually been raised to believe in the 'village' principle which OBama has apparently been raised to believe too neither of us need to base that belief off of each other I dont know how the employees could NOT affect the success of a business, but Im done trying to understand that type of logic,,,, except I believe it is held by those who measure everything in dollar signs,, including 'contribution' and effort The reason you don't know is because you don't understand business...Not trying to sound rude, but it is not something you can read a few articles about and think you know.....It has NOTHING TO DO WITH GREED Harmony, nothing... |
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Obummer is wrong. I built the roads through my taxes. 
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I assure you Im thinking and Im referring to the topic of 'success',, plenty of businesses 'start up' but far fewer succeed well start up, and success are credited to the business owner, and they should be. i have never seen a customer (or a group of customers) take credit for opening a business for a business owner, and take credit for keeping it successful for him I have been employed before where we were regularly commended for helping keep the business SUCCESSFUL unless one only measures effort and contribution by 'dollar' signs,,,, but we can agree to disagree You just don't get it....not even close... Employees do not determine the success or failure of a business UNLESS those in control (owners) allow it....It's not a hard concept, it just goes against Obama rhetoric so you have to reach for excuses.....
no, I have actually been raised to believe in the 'village' principle which OBama has apparently been raised to believe too neither of us need to base that belief off of each other I dont know how the employees could NOT affect the success of a business, but Im done trying to understand that type of logic,,,, except I believe it is held by those who measure everything in dollar signs,, including 'contribution' and effort The reason you don't know is because you don't understand business...Not trying to sound rude, but it is not something you can read a few articles about and think you know.....It has NOTHING TO DO WITH GREED Harmony, nothing... why would one assume I dont understand business? how much should one know to understand the different elements that lead to success and to understand there is more than one element? Im pretty sure in business classes , we covered several different things that are important to the 'success' of a business and we didnt have just a single chapter about 'owners',,,, |
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a bonus at christmas, a cake on your birthday, a health care plan, these are some of the things the business owner can give to employees. the success of the business is still the effort the business owner puts in to keep PRODUCTIVE employees around in some cases the employee is giving an option to buy into the business, and i guarantee i guarantee that when an employee puts money in, the success of the business matters more (bulldog double guarantee - patent pending) it was the CEO/Owner and like I said, the customers see the EMPLOYEES and deal with the EMPLOYEES< the funding is not the only factor to SUCCESS this is true and good employees also are contributing to the success of an owners business... the success is due to the owner knowing which employees are productive and which are not the good employees you believe to be contributing to the success of the business are there because the OWNER chooses to continue employing them. the bad employees are found and terminated by the OWNER. an employee can choose not to perform at the standard set by the OWNER, and will most likely be terminated by the OWNER. thus the business is successful due to the OWNER's efforts to keep it that way after the OWNER started the business |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 07/19/12 07:35 PM
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a bonus at christmas, a cake on your birthday, a health care plan, these are some of the things the business owner can give to employees. the success of the business is still the effort the business owner puts in to keep PRODUCTIVE employees around in some cases the employee is giving an option to buy into the business, and i guarantee i guarantee that when an employee puts money in, the success of the business matters more (bulldog double guarantee - patent pending) it was the CEO/Owner and like I said, the customers see the EMPLOYEES and deal with the EMPLOYEES< the funding is not the only factor to SUCCESS this is true and good employees also are contributing to the success of an owners business... the success is due to the owner knowing which employees are productive and which are not the good employees you believe to be contributing to the success of the business are there because the OWNER chooses to continue employing them. the bad employees are found and terminated by the OWNER. an employee can choose not to perform at the standard set by the OWNER, and will most likely be terminated by the OWNER. thus the business is successful due to the OWNER's efforts to keep it that way after the OWNER started the business I dont understand why the presence of choice makes the reality of joint effort any more 'mythical' If I have a life threatening illness, and I CHOOSE the right specialist, who works on me only because he is going to get paid, and I improve and recover can I then say that recovery was all because of ME, because I had to make the right choices for it to happen? and without paying that doctor he would not have done the 'job' that assisted my recovery? |
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no you are wrong. who pays the builders, contractors, grant writers, road maintenance, etc,, and once they have been paid, they dont put an effort into MAINTAINING unless they are paid again in some cases, the business can sell to people who are not local. and in some cases they don't sell locally at all try to start a business before you open your mouth. see how many people "contribute" and Im not sure which villages you are used to, but I have known MANY business that the neighborhood has supported BECAUSE they have become a part of the family and because of not just the products but often time the EMPLOYEES service,,,,,,,,, this has nothing to do with the start up. and many local businesses have had to close because the only people patronizing were locals with little expendable income starting up does not equal SUCCEEDING money changes hands, so what the owner doesnt MAINTAIN unless he is continuing to turn profit either,, that has nothing to do with the point that noone SNEEZES out success by THEMSELF,,,, why does boycotting have an impact? Because of patrons stop SUPPORTING the services and products the business cant SUCCEED. and their 'support' is not always tied to how great a product or service is,, some people may not get supported because the community doesnt like THEM PERSONALLY and likewise, if the ommunity does like the person/people involved, they patronize and help make the business 'successful' You can't be serious.....We're talking about successful business and how the left is undermining INDIVIDUAL achievement to push their social agendas...It's insane...
perception is subjective I see it as not 'undermining' individual achievement, but rather aknowledging how achievement is not obtained in a vaccuum without others,,,, Perception!!!!!...This is not about perception, it's about SPOKEN WORDS, spoken and recorded for posterity, spoken by a lame President.....It's about FACTS, not perception.... |
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