Topic: What is love?
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Thu 07/05/12 11:44 PM


Hate is most definitely NOT a survival tactic. It serves no purpose or benefit to the human condition.



Absolutely it is! Hate was the guiding force that led us to protect ourselves from war and disease, not to mention protect our gene pool or enlarge it. To early humans, outsiders brought war, disease and contaminated the gene pool. It was xenophobia and hate that allowed humanity to florish. Once numerous large populations existed, societies formed and tried to do away with hate and xenophobia, but guess what? Our DNA is often more powerful than peer pressure or monitary gain. So we still have hate and we still have fear. The wise man uses his innate distrust for outsiders to guide him and keep him wary of strangers, but this distrust, fear and hate must be tempered with experience and understanding to prevent social faux pas.


Absolutely. We all make snap judgments based on someone's appearance. Is he part of my tribe? We can't help it because it happens before we have time to think. We often mistrust people based only on their looks or we're drawn in by them.

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Fri 07/06/12 05:53 AM

Actually, in the arrogant mind, the super-ego is dull. Therefore the ego readily expresses itself in a narcissistic way. Freud actually relates this behavioral trait to a diminished fallic response. Either translated as "small penis" or inept sexualality.

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Fri 07/06/12 05:55 AM



Hate is most definitely NOT a survival tactic. It serves no purpose or benefit to the human condition.



Absolutely it is! Hate was the guiding force that led us to protect ourselves from war and disease, not to mention protect our gene pool or enlarge it. To early humans, outsiders brought war, disease and contaminated the gene pool. It was xenophobia and hate that allowed humanity to florish. Once numerous large populations existed, societies formed and tried to do away with hate and xenophobia, but guess what? Our DNA is often more powerful than peer pressure or monitary gain. So we still have hate and we still have fear. The wise man uses his innate distrust for outsiders to guide him and keep him wary of strangers, but this distrust, fear and hate must be tempered with experience and understanding to prevent social faux pas.


Absolutely. We all make snap judgments based on someone's appearance. Is he part of my tribe? We can't help it because it happens before we have time to think. We often mistrust people based only on their looks or we're drawn in by them.


This isn't "hate".

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Fri 07/06/12 06:25 AM

Actually, in the arrogant mind, the super-ego is dull. Therefore the ego readily expresses itself in a narcissistic way. Freud actually relates this behavioral trait to a diminished fallic response. Either translated as "small penis" or inept sexualality.


So much for Freud. laugh My life is ruled by my Super Ego. If you had said that my Id was dulled, you might be onto something. I have a very well developed conscience and moral compass, thank you very much. Although what that has to do with my penis, I have no idea.

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Fri 07/06/12 06:29 AM




Hate is most definitely NOT a survival tactic. It serves no purpose or benefit to the human condition.



Absolutely it is! Hate was the guiding force that led us to protect ourselves from war and disease, not to mention protect our gene pool or enlarge it. To early humans, outsiders brought war, disease and contaminated the gene pool. It was xenophobia and hate that allowed humanity to florish. Once numerous large populations existed, societies formed and tried to do away with hate and xenophobia, but guess what? Our DNA is often more powerful than peer pressure or monitary gain. So we still have hate and we still have fear. The wise man uses his innate distrust for outsiders to guide him and keep him wary of strangers, but this distrust, fear and hate must be tempered with experience and understanding to prevent social faux pas.


Absolutely. We all make snap judgments based on someone's appearance. Is he part of my tribe? We can't help it because it happens before we have time to think. We often mistrust people based only on their looks or we're drawn in by them.


This isn't "hate".


Their description may not be accurate to you but it is their views and opinions of the word which is perfectly exceptable according to how we form meanings of words in modern American English. English is a pretty flexible language.

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Fri 07/06/12 06:34 AM




Hate is most definitely NOT a survival tactic. It serves no purpose or benefit to the human condition.



Absolutely it is! Hate was the guiding force that led us to protect ourselves from war and disease, not to mention protect our gene pool or enlarge it. To early humans, outsiders brought war, disease and contaminated the gene pool. It was xenophobia and hate that allowed humanity to florish. Once numerous large populations existed, societies formed and tried to do away with hate and xenophobia, but guess what? Our DNA is often more powerful than peer pressure or monitary gain. So we still have hate and we still have fear. The wise man uses his innate distrust for outsiders to guide him and keep him wary of strangers, but this distrust, fear and hate must be tempered with experience and understanding to prevent social faux pas.


Absolutely. We all make snap judgments based on someone's appearance. Is he part of my tribe? We can't help it because it happens before we have time to think. We often mistrust people based only on their looks or we're drawn in by them.


This isn't "hate".


Yes, it is. Here is the dictionary definition.


to dislike intensely or passionately; feel extreme aversion for or extreme hostility toward; detest: to hate the enemy; to hate bigotry.

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Fri 07/06/12 06:41 AM


..wow..we started with love and ended with hate..i'd say that about covers it..Where's the love..spock ..:laughing:

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Fri 07/06/12 06:45 AM
Some people (I'm one of them) feel strange about putting love in a box. Yes, the same love I put toward a dessert would be applied to a human. It's the appreciation of all things good and lovely.

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Fri 07/06/12 06:49 AM
That's interesting, because I was actually freeing Love from the box of being a simple emotion or just a feeling and putting it into it's proper place of being a transcendent experience, which is a necessary part of a normal human life.

But you see that as "putting love in a box"?

I feel strange that anyone would equate love for a food to interpersonal love.

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Fri 07/06/12 06:50 AM



..wow..we started with love and ended with hate..i'd say that about covers it..Where's the love..spock ..:laughing:


Welcome to the internet, buckle up, it's going to be a bumpy ride.

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Fri 07/06/12 07:17 AM


Some people (I'm one of them) feel strange about putting love in a box. Yes, the same love I put toward a dessert would be applied to a human. It's the appreciation of all things good and lovely.


That's interesting, because I was actually freeing Love from the box of being a simple emotion or just a feeling and putting it into it's proper place of being a transcendent experience, which is a necessary part of a normal human life.

But you see that as "putting love in a box"?

I feel strange that anyone would equate love for a food to interpersonal love.


Well I'm a strange one. I see the entire human experience as something transcendent. Something very beautiful, and full of love waiting to be plucked from every moment and movement. I use to think of love as being much smaller but the more I studied and felt comfortable with the thought of a creator I began to see things more as a whole and not in firm or rigid lines of seperation. Love took on more of a flow for me. An exchange between all things without limits. I can be a part of their good or a part of their bad. The closer I move toward the good the more I experience love (on all levels).

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Fri 07/06/12 07:46 AM

Well I'm a strange one. I see the entire human experience as something transcendent. Something very beautiful, and full of love waiting to be plucked from every moment and movement. I use to think of love as being much smaller but the more I studied and felt comfortable with the thought of a creator I began to see things more as a whole and not in firm or rigid lines of seperation. Love took on more of a flow for me. An exchange between all things without limits. I can be a part of their good or a part of their bad. The closer I move toward the good the more I experience love (on all levels).


How is that? How can the "entire human experience" exceed all limits? Wouldn't that mean that the limits were expanded and new lines were drawn to mark what is normal? You are basically saying that you go half way to the middle of a lake and claim that is the beach. It makes no sense, because the waters extend all the way to the shore, which is where the beach can be found.

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Fri 07/06/12 07:47 AM
I put love in a box, I keep her in my basement.

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Fri 07/06/12 07:55 AM

I put love in a box, I keep her in my basement.


You put Helena in a box?

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Fri 07/06/12 08:15 AM


Well I'm a strange one. I see the entire human experience as something transcendent. Something very beautiful, and full of love waiting to be plucked from every moment and movement. I use to think of love as being much smaller but the more I studied and felt comfortable with the thought of a creator I began to see things more as a whole and not in firm or rigid lines of seperation. Love took on more of a flow for me. An exchange between all things without limits. I can be a part of their good or a part of their bad. The closer I move toward the good the more I experience love (on all levels).


How is that? How can the "entire human experience" exceed all limits? Wouldn't that mean that the limits were expanded and new lines were drawn to mark what is normal? You are basically saying that you go half way to the middle of a lake and claim that is the beach. It makes no sense, because the waters extend all the way to the shore, which is where the beach can be found.

You aren't strange so much as obvious. Maybe if you stopped trying to seem profound, you would say something with actual value.


I'm starting to think love does mean "Never having to say you're sorry".....How suckie funkie is that....ohwell

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Fri 07/06/12 08:19 AM
For me love does affect your feelings and emotions. BUT I use self control and I wont 'give' my love to someone who is not going in the same direction as me. Is it so hard to understand that love only happens when the circumstances and person suit?

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Fri 07/06/12 08:43 AM
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Fri 07/06/12 08:50 AM

For me love does affect your feelings and emotions. BUT I use self control and I wont 'give' my love to someone who is not going in the same direction as me. Is it so hard to understand that love only happens when the circumstances and person suit?


To whom is this addressed? I agree with you completely. Love is a choice, if you aren't open to love, it's very unlikely you will find it. Love is transcendent. It colors every thought, emotion and feeling you have. It makes your food taste better, colors seem brighter, smells sharper. It improves or perfects every experience in life.

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Fri 07/06/12 09:17 AM


For me love does affect your feelings and emotions. BUT I use self control and I wont 'give' my love to someone who is not going in the same direction as me. Is it so hard to understand that love only happens when the circumstances and person suit?


To whom is this addressed? I agree with you completely. Love is a choice, if you aren't open to love, it's very unlikely you will find it. Love is transcendent. It colors every thought, emotion and feeling you have. It makes your food taste better, colors seem brighter, smells sharper. It improves or perfects every experience in life.


Absolutely, both of you...And Spider, you're last sentence is so true and just reading it makes me feel happy and I know the topic is "What is Love", but because I so agree with your post I feel compelled to point out that when love ends, when someone we love makes a "choice" to stop loving us, negative feelings can be magnified too...Sometimes these negative feelings remain in a magnified state for as long as it takes to "re-train" ourselves to stop loving the person who rejected us... Although I do not believe love has one specific opposite some of the opposite feelings, thoughts, emotions I refer to include ultra sensitivity, anger, hate, hopelessness, spitefullness, arrogance, defiance....I am curious if you agree?....

PS: I don't think my post is off topic and I hope it isn't, but if it is I apologize....






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Fri 07/06/12 09:18 AM


I put love in a box, I keep her in my basement.


You put Helena in a box?


Good film.