Topic: What is love?
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Thu 07/05/12 09:24 AM

May we discuss the love we have for our children in this thread?


Absolutely.

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Thu 07/05/12 09:27 AM

You said earlier words have meanings. I gave you the definition of feeling. Can you show me where it says temporary, meaning any feeling must be temporary?


It's implicit in the definition, just as my examples proved.

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Thu 07/05/12 09:35 AM
I hear people talking about falling in and out of love. If love were real and it's really what people say it is, then wouldn't it be permanent?

It think people are built to form relationships that last a few years (long enough to raise the kids to an age when they can take care of most of their needs) and then split up and find another partner. This way mixes up the genes more effectively.

So, love may be real, but it doesn't last.

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Thu 07/05/12 09:41 AM

I hear people talking about falling in and out of love. If love were real and it's really what people say it is, then wouldn't it be permanent?

It think people are built to form relationships that last a few years (long enough to raise the kids to an age when they can take care of most of their needs) and then split up and find another partner. This way mixes up the genes more effectively.

So, love may be real, but it doesn't last.


In my experience, love is both real and lasts.

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Thu 07/05/12 09:41 AM

I hear people talking about falling in and out of love. If love were real and it's really what people say it is, then wouldn't it be permanent?

It think people are built to form relationships that last a few years (long enough to raise the kids to an age when they can take care of most of their needs) and then split up and find another partner. This way mixes up the genes more effectively.

So, love may be real, but it doesn't last.


For some, it is permanent. For others, it isn't. People are different.

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Thu 07/05/12 10:32 AM


If you touch a hot stove your hand might not be burning the rest of your life ,but the memory of that burn will stay with you.


If you are infatuated with someone, that feeling will fade, but the memory will stay with you.

Thanks for the help, but I think I've made my point fairly clear.

You have made your point alright, but I doubt if its the one you think you have.

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Thu 07/05/12 11:09 AM

May we discuss the love we have for our children in this thread?


Back on topic, yes, absolutely.

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Thu 07/05/12 05:07 PM
Man I love me some Haddaway.

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Thu 07/05/12 07:21 PM
Enough with the personal attacks back and forth. Please get back to the topic at hand.

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Thu 07/05/12 08:27 PM
Edited by kike22277 on Thu 07/05/12 08:51 PM
IN MY CONFUSE STATE I CAN HONESTLY SAY ABOUT MOST OF THE COMMENTS ARE RIGHT AND WRONG.IT IS ALL PERSPECTIVE AND STATE OF MIND WHEN IT COMES TO THE MOST IMPORTANT SUBJECT OF OUR LIVES,'WHAT IS LOVE?'
YES WE CAN USE VARIOUS DICTIONARIES,ENCYCLOPEDIAS AND THE QUOTES OF GREAT PHILOSOPHERS,MIX WITH A LITTLE OF OUR OWN PHILOSOPHY TO JUSTIFY THE END.YES,I'LL DEFINE LOVE IN ORDER TO MAKE SOUND IN A WAY THAT I WANT IT TO FEEL(EMOTION);I'LL DEFINE LOVE IN A WAY THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH EMOTION TO PROVE THAT IS AN ACT(WORK[IT IS A GOOD QUESTION TO ASK THE MOTHERS WHO HAD ABORTED OR ABOUT TO ABORT THEIR BABIES,WHAT IS LOVE BASED ON THEIR BETTER JUDGEMENT]).
LOVE AS TO DO WITH HONOR AND HONOR IS SOMETHING THAT WE TEACH.AND IF THERE IS NOT A SENSE OF EMOTION THEN HOW ARE WE SUPPOSE TO FEEL,WHETHER BAD OR GOOD,TO DO THE HONORABLE THING?NOW WHO IN THESE WORLD KNOWS WHAT IS HONORABLE AND WHAT IS DISHONORABLE? NOT ME! BUT BASED ON OUR PERSFECTIVES AND COMMENTS AND THE WAY OUR WORLD IS IN A STATE OF GETTING BETTER FOR OUR FUTURE,IT IS EVIDENT THAT WE ARE TEACHING LOVE EVERYWHERE,OUR OWN KIND OF LOVE.THIS IS MY PERSPECTIVE.BY THE WAY,I'M NOT RIGHTHEOUS AT ALL,BUT I KNOW OF ONE THAT IS AND HE TEACHES ME HOW TO SHOW THAT LOVE IN EMOTION AND WORK.I DON'T HAVE TO LIKE IT OR LOVE IT BUT I HAVE TO DO IT.THAT IS LOVE ISN'T IT.SHALOM!


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Thu 07/05/12 08:58 PM
bigsmile: IF I MAY SAY THAT FEELINGS ARE ONLY TEMPORARY TIL THE DAY WE DIE.

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Thu 07/05/12 09:25 PM
Man I loved those ribs! Tonight we used a different smoke enhancer and the ribs came out great I thought. Don't get me wrong, I loved the ribs last week but these were something special as well. I also loved the cheese potatoes and think that maybe they added to the love that I have for the new rib recipe. I love going to Famous Daves for ribs but tweaking them yourself is a lot of fun and you can't say to Dave (even though you love his ribs) that you want to go back and tweak on his ribs for only your table. That would be a selfish type of love I feel, and maybe inappropriate. Maybe not even love at all but more self gratifying lust.

Can I share something with you guys? It's kinda personal. I'm thinking later on tonight I might even sneak into the frig and get some more ribs. I know you might call me a pig, but I'm sure because you love me this is something you can over look.

Man I loved that corn on the cob....

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Thu 07/05/12 09:34 PM
Well, sir....I FEEL like saying that on any given day, I LOVE ice cream.

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Thu 07/05/12 09:36 PM

So...if you experience a taste or smell, it's permanent? When you touch a hot stove, your hand is burning for the rest of your life? You are going to have to think a bit more deeply if you want to keep up.


No but the imprint upon your psyche is permanent.

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Thu 07/05/12 09:49 PM
Edited by tautologic on Thu 07/05/12 09:51 PM

First of all, I'm impressed you referenced Maslow.

Why?


Because I would venture the majority on here have no clue as to Maslow and psychology in general.


That said, I do think that you have to learn how to hate or be angry. They are learned responses to stimuli and/or experience. You aren't born hating.

We aren't born hating, but we are born with the capacity and inclination to hate. Hate is just as natural to the human experience as any other emotion. It's an evolutionary survival tactic and is one of the reasons why we exist today as a species.


Hate is most definitely NOT a survival tactic. It serves no purpose or benefit to the human condition.


You aren't born loving either. When you think of newborns their instinct is what attatches them to their mothers. All of the senses are engaged to create that bond. From there, the love is taught, grown. So in a way, love is a sixth sense.

Our senses (of which we have far more than 5) allow us to sense the world around us. I don't understand how love could be considered a sense.


To sense means to precieve, receive and process stimuli. Love stimulates our entire body emotionally and physically.



Yes we all show love differently; and we love various people in our lives differently. But love in itself is a concept that is static.


How so?


Because regardless of who or to what level we express or feel a love towards someone, the concepts it holds are things like safety, comfort, loyalty, trust, survival, etc. When these qualities do not exist for us anymore towards the other person, we no longer love them or at the very least not love them as we once did.

Even when you think of someone you no longer feel present love for, you can think back to when you DID love them and remember how it felt and what it meant to you at the time. The imprint it leaves on you never leaves.

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Thu 07/05/12 10:14 PM

Well, sir....I FEEL like saying that on any given day, I LOVE ice cream.


When I'm not around a good Ice cream shop I can still usually go for a DQ Peanut Buster Parfait.

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Thu 07/05/12 10:15 PM


Well, sir....I FEEL like saying that on any given day, I LOVE ice cream.


When I'm not around a good Ice cream shop I can still usually go for a DQ Peanut Buster Parfait.

A DQ Banana split for me!! YUMMY!!:banana:

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Thu 07/05/12 10:20 PM

Hate is most definitely NOT a survival tactic. It serves no purpose or benefit to the human condition.



Absolutely it is! Hate was the guiding force that led us to protect ourselves from war and disease, not to mention protect our gene pool or enlarge it. To early humans, outsiders brought war, disease and contaminated the gene pool. It was xenophobia and hate that allowed humanity to florish. Once numerous large populations existed, societies formed and tried to do away with hate and xenophobia, but guess what? Our DNA is often more powerful than peer pressure or monitary gain. So we still have hate and we still have fear. The wise man uses his innate distrust for outsiders to guide him and keep him wary of strangers, but this distrust, fear and hate must be tempered with experience and understanding to prevent social faux pas.

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Thu 07/05/12 10:21 PM
Sounds like we have a DQ intellectual summit in the making.

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Thu 07/05/12 11:38 PM
Love: The will to ensure the survival of your genes over those of someone else.