when people try to disprove bigotry by alluding to exceptions they have made to befriend some individuals within the group they are bigoted against?


or when people try to prove bigotry by alluding to discussions about race relations or bigotry?




I knew once, a person who hated another race(or at least STRONGLY looked down upon), they met someone of that race who also hated that race, and once they became a couple (lust and common ground can conquer mountains), the former constantly alluded to the latter as proof they werent racist

even though, the latter was a perfect and constant way for them to VALIDATE their racism (After all, if even a member of the hated group can see what I see I must be right,,,,)

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someone from politics forum keeps popping up in my head.

mine too,,,,

I think I get, and agree with the point of your message.

bigotry exploited in ignorant irony or That's what I call a Love/Hate Relationship...

I just give everybody enough rope to hang themselves. Some do and some don't, makes no difference as to what "group" they are in.

I don't know who you are talking about, but I'm fairly certain this thread violates rule #2.





If other users can identify the user you are posting about, then you are definitely violating rule #2.

oh you kiss ***.

No, no username is given, so it's not a violation, since it could be anyone.

The first time anyone has called me that. Ask some of the moderators how much *** kissing I do.

There wasn't enough text to describe who it was though. Besides, she was simply stating that she was thinking of someone, that's not an insult or anything.

Just saying...

It's up to the moderators / admins to decide, I was just giving my 2 cents.

I just don't see how it can be viewed as a TOS violation. The OP isn't attacking, belittling, or degrading either.

to the topic,,,all i can say is...
i`ve heard so much shi* spoken about so many races of people, by so many other races of people,,,,all i can do is walk away and stay away. i can`t make windows into people`s minds to know if they are truly bigoted or not (regardless of ties w/others). but i can tell a loving, decent person from a jacka**, and i form relationships accordingly.

oh boy will this race issue end?! having problems with a person has nothing to do his race, will people see people as good or bad and not of race or colour, so many races are mixing together and producing beautiful kids at the end of the day it all comes down to love. nothing beats that

i don`t think the race issue will end,, it`s too ingrained, into too many. some can see people as they are, and some will remain brainwashed. love, love and brotherhood is wonderful. beautiful kids? yes, lovely. we must learn to view the plain as beautiful, as well.

true love means embracing all good souls, regardless of looks.

This reminds me of my time in rehab. The common ground for Delbert and me was poetry. Delbert was this little black guy and formed a bond. Delbert broke the ice for me by calling me Hoss. He said I reminded him of Dan Blocker from "Bonanza". I called him Buckwheat because he reminded me of Billie Thomas from the "Lil Rascals". After that we were Hoss and Buckwheat. And we got along great till Anita came into the picture. We were both infatuated with her. Her father was white and her mother was black. Buckwheat was crazy about her but she knew that we were both interested in her. She didn't want to hurt Buckwheat's feelings so she took me for a ride in her car. I was glad to be with her and was wondering why she did at first. By her actions of cat calling and whistling at every woman on the street I knew why she dissed us both as far potential dates. As I slid further down in the seat embarrassed as hell she just laughed her head off. She confided in me that she just couldn't tell Delbert because it would break his heart. She didn't think that he would understand but then it was the three of as friends from then on.

I hold two very strong opinions about race issues and bigotry:

1. It is completely stupid and unfounded by logic.
2. Bigotry is easy to accept and to make one's own via its dead-easy selection process. I.e. it is a no-brainer to tell a white person from a black person. This is tragic, actually.
3. Bigotry has roots in evolutionary pscyhology that supports the practice of racism. It is antiquated now, but many times bigotry aided survival of parts of humanity.
4. In today's world we are supposed to know that racism is cruel, it is unfair, it is not founded on any rational selection process.
5. In today's world we are supposed to be mature enough to sluff off the temptation of racism, yet it takes superhuman efforts on the part of every individual.

6. Not pertaining only to racism, but to a lot of other things as well, it is now clear that humans are capable to talk themeselves into believing the logically and physically impossible, or at least logically not sound. Examples of it include not only racism, but also issues in politics, religion, and social concepts and socializing. We, humans, are very ready to accept illogical and unreasonable political aqendas and religious myths, when our emotional minds tell us to do so. Racism is one such area of human thought.

In my own personal world, it has been a long, very hard struggle to un-bias myself, and I don't think I am anywhere near the finish line. If one even exists in the first place.

Believe me, I would be a much happier man if I could ignore the fact that races exist. Everyone would be happier. My heart aches when I hear names like Rose Park and Muhammad Ali. Yet, I do look at black pleople AUTOMATICALLY differently. I don't think it's nurture in me; until 19 years of age, I never saw a Black man. It is so automatic, that I daresay racism is built into every human.

I know with my logical, cognitive mind, how wrong I am, and most of my life since 19 I've been trying to overcome my own bigotry. I must say I do have advanced, and I do have much more acceptance for blacks, but I still need to progress a long way to get to nearer my goal.

I absolutely beleive that each person is capable of convincing himself to accept that bigotry is wrong. Women are better at it, because they have more compassion -- but bang, there is the bigotry in compassion, because compassion is usually reserved for lower forms of life, like little children, the sick, the cold and suffering animals.

South Park, the tv series, had two very serious episodes devoted to racism, and both were right on.

1. A black kid tells his friend, the white kid, "you don't get it" and during the whole episode the liberal-minded white kid keeps telling the black kid, "I never got it, but NOW I get it" when a new situation crops up, but the black kid always replies, "you just don't get it." At the end of the show the white kid says to the black kid, "I get it now. I can't get it, can I? It is impossible for a white person to get it, what the black person lives through." This illustrates the incredible suffering due to bias the black people experience.

2. The town flag where the tv series plays in Colorado, shows four white happy man around a hangman's pole, and a black man hanging. The black person in town wants to change the flag. The town divides to two factions: pro-change and pro-tradition. The school kids have to debate it, and the best friends of the black man (he is a chef in the school's cafertia) surprisingly side with the pro-traditionals. The black chef is beside himself. His best friends are betraying him!

Then it turns out that the kiddos actually overlooked the fact that the hanged man was black --- he was just a man for the kids --- and the hangers, the posse, were all white, to the kids they were just men too.


We are a very, very, very, long way away from seeing the world in that way. If I were a religious man, I'd pray day in and day out that the day will come soon when we won't see the race in the races.
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