true. they are big on preventive laws but usually consistent

My sentiments exactly. This makes me very sad.

Me2, Id fight for your rights to believe, and wear whatever symbols you want!

State/City and it was policy. They did allow a Christmas tree since it comes from a non religious tradition before Christianity but no baby Jesus or any stuff like that.

On the holidays we have a display at our court house here that has all religions that want to display displayed. Even if you made up a religion and wanted to display there you could. The fight is going to come and end it all when a satanistic religion decides it wants to display there. That will be the day it all ends because people cannot be fair to what they see as evil. Which is the reason religion is private and should be kept there.

Ditto.

I work for local city government. I have for most of my adult life. At different times I have worn a pentacle pendant, a crucifix, various Saint images, etc. And, I am very much in the public eye as I reguarly go out and do presentations to the public for the city. My employer has never had a problem with it. They've never mentioned it at all. Nor have any of the citizens who see me on TV and in person in public places discussing city business. It was never an issue. No one really gave a rats azz about it. Nor did I care about others wearing Star of David, Thor hammers or whatever else they wore.

What State and city? And, when was this that there was a written policy stating you could not wear religious jewelry?

on this we agree, its all out war against 'christian' expression while everyone else is free to express who they 'feel' they are,,,,

Why is this so surprising it's europe christianity is dying,islam and atheism is rising.

We had a system here that combined State and City employees, they have since done away with it but we were under both jurisdictions.

And I don't remember seeing one cross as jewelry. Recognizable religious insignia probably makes a big difference here too. I knew some Wiccans at work who wore their talismans and stuff and had no issues because they were perceived as homedic health aids or something like that.

Spoiled Christians feel "persecuted" because they have been over stepping boundaries for a long time here. So they will have to feel that way until the proper balance is reached in this country.

http://www.eeoc.gov/policy/docs/qanda_religion.html

Based on this, an employer cannot arbitrarily make a policy forbidding religious jewelry. So, Dragoness, I am really curious as to this policy you worked under.

Okay, so you are saying that in Denver, Colorado there is a written policy for government employees stating that they cannot wear religious jewelry or display any religious item on their desk?

I think that makes them in direct violation of Title 7. Perhaps I should get a job there so I can sue them and retire early.

It was part of our agreement to employment, EEOC only battles if there was no agreement between employer and employee about issues. Religious organization do the same. You cannot work in one religious organization outwardly expressing and proselyting another religion and keep your job.

If someone on your job would file a complaint of your outward expression of religion, you would find that chances are it would become a rule that you couldn't wear it either. A judge would rule that no religious expression is more just and fair in the government. Of course................ that is unless you live down south and then they are so far behind the times in this area and other areas like race relations, it might be allowed.

So, everyone who worked for the government in Denver, Colorado made an agreement never to wear anything that was of religious significance to them? Jews, Muslims, Christians, Pagans? They all agreed to this? This is fascinating. I'm going to have to more research on this.

According to Title 7, other employees complaining about my expressions of religion is not enough to pass a rule forbidding it.

http://www.adl.org/religious_freedom/resource_kit/religion_workplace.asp

According the Anti-Defamation League, employers cannot forbid the wearing of religious jewelry or have appearance rules that violate one's religious beliefs without there being a good reason such as safety.

I found nothing on Denver, Colorado government employees having such a rule. So, unless you can show me some proof of your statement that Denver, Colorado employees were forbidden from such expressions of their religion, I'm going to have to say I don't believe you. I am certainly open to seeing evidence to the contrary.

I agree! I'm Christian but if a pagan wanted to wear a pentagrams, I will respect their right to. It does hurt me any.

If someone is butt hurt by a piece of jewelry, then go home and cry in your pillow. There is no crying in baseball!

I would sooooooo pimp a Thor's hammer!

Its not really about Christians, it is a tribal Us Vs Them, we are good they are bad mentality.

It exists independent of affiliation and sadly prevents open and honest discussion far too often.

now this seems to contradict itself



then



but then all rules are supposed to be equal for all???



which is what the first post I quote was doing as well...they just weren't Christian



So if someone filed a complaint on the pagan symbol...then they wouldn't be allowed to wear it anymore...let's keep it fair and equal


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/billofrights#amendmenti

If some pagen wants to get naked ... I'm all for it!!!!

you would no matter what belief they have. You just want to see them naked