Topic: Poverty
jessejames2's photo
Thu 05/09/13 12:25 PM
I'm not the one pumping out kids eight at a time without any way to support them like some women are able to do.

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Thu 05/09/13 12:29 PM

I'm not the one pumping out kids eight at a time without any way to support them like some women are able to do.


lol...very good point!!!


although I can see the Butthurts coming....snickers

Cutiepieforyou's photo
Thu 05/09/13 12:37 PM
I try to give to my local food bank when I can. There are lot of people out of work who need help with the basics right now. Some of them have families.

msharmony's photo
Thu 05/09/13 02:08 PM

I try to give to my local food bank when I can. There are lot of people out of work who need help with the basics right now. Some of them have families.


flowerforyou

I give to places like good will or dessert industries , clothes and things we dont use anymore

I also give to people sometimes who are on the street. I know they could be a fraud, but they could actually be in temporary need as well and I know jobs dont grow on trees, its only a few bucks cut out of my own budget that I may have only been using for some fast food or some other junk I dont half need as much as they need,,,,,

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Thu 05/09/13 02:09 PM


I try to give to my local food bank when I can. There are lot of people out of work who need help with the basics right now. Some of them have families.


flowerforyou

I give to places like good will or dessert industries , clothes and things we dont use anymore

I also give to people sometimes who are on the street. I know they could be a fraud, but they could actually be in temporary need as well and I know jobs dont grow on trees, its only a few bucks cut out of my own budget that I may have only been using for some fast food or some other junk I dont half need as much as they need,,,,,


drinker me too:)

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Sat 05/11/13 03:57 PM
Edited by alleoops on Sat 05/11/13 04:12 PM
I bought a couple of homeless guys breakfast and coffee at Mcd's the other day. I too wish that I could do more.

I always try to carry a few extra bucks for such times.

vquest's photo
Sun 05/12/13 09:37 PM
If you have faith in the Lord read the bible stories of the meal and oil that never runs out, or how to get water from a rock? Turning water into wine? Ravens bringing food? It's not the question of poverty but where is you're faith?

Momoiro_Usagi_7's photo
Sun 05/12/13 09:56 PM

Am I the only Mingle2 member who is concerned about people trapped in poverty?

How can you not respond to people living in these condition?





I wonder if the Christians here know and understand just what the Bible says about poverty.

(The hyperlink goes to an essay about the topic.)

Psalm 72:12 - For he will deliver the needy who cry out, the afflicted who have no-one to help.

Psalm 72:13 - He will take pity on the weak and the needy and save the needy from death.

Psalm 68:10 - Your people settled in it, and from your bounty, O God, you provided for the poor.

Psalm 107:41 - But he lifted the needy out of their affliction and increased their families like flocks.

Psalm 69:33 - The Lord hears the needy and does not despise his captive people.

Psalm 102:17 - He will respond to the prayer of the destitute; he will not despise their plea.

Psalm 132:15 - I will bless her with abundant provisions; her poor will I satisfy with food.

Psalm 113:7 - He raises the poor from the dust and lifts the needy from the ash heap;

Jeremiah 20:13 - Sing to the Lord! Give praise to the Lord! He rescues the life of the needy from the hands of the wicked.

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Sun 05/12/13 10:00 PM
What makes me really mad is people who take advantage of others' generosity. We had a problem in the Springs for awhile of people posing as homeless who really weren't, and were getting all kinds of things every day.
I give to a few organizations here in town that I know do great things, like the Angel Food Ministry. flowerforyou

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Sun 05/12/13 10:21 PM

What makes me really mad is people who take advantage of others' generosity. We had a problem in the Springs for awhile of people posing as homeless who really weren't, and were getting all kinds of things every day.
I give to a few organizations here in town that I know do great things, like the Angel Food Ministry. flowerforyou


Yep, kinda got to go with your gut these days with the homeless.

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Sun 05/12/13 10:31 PM

What makes me really mad is people who take advantage of others' generosity. We had a problem in the Springs for awhile of people posing as homeless who really weren't, and were getting all kinds of things every day.
I give to a few organizations here in town that I know do great things, like the Angel Food Ministry. flowerforyou

I don't know if it's to stir up emotion or what...I do know this everyone is suffer in one way or another...It's heart that knows where give, when to give and how much! I follow the spirit within. To me that's all that matters! We can't everyone only the ones that lie in your path. if I can best believe it I will.Guilt is never a reason to give ...telling this to myself everyday actually *smiles* but if I can make someone smile STOP tears in their track when someone is pain...I'm happy! There's always someone out that messes it up for someone else! So I let my heart lead me it hasn't been wrong yet! I know what you mean though!

DillonM86's photo
Tue 05/14/13 12:50 AM
Sure I care about poverty, but I need to get myself out of debt before i can worry about anyone else. What I really can't stand tho is these celebrities trying to get our money to end world hunger. If all of today's celebrities pitched in just 20% of their paycheck, we could practically eliminate world hunger within the next year or 2. Stupid fake *** celebrities

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Wed 05/22/13 05:34 AM
true. but in my opinion help is need to get everyone on the same level of equality...even though there is poverty in local areas in the western world, it does not match that of 3rd world...
and why should any group of people be more privlaged to charity help than others because of geographical, ethnical or religious diversities???

one should start at the bottom and work their way up in order to feel the full effect of change!

Conrad_73's photo
Wed 05/22/13 05:38 AM

true. but in my opinion help is need to get everyone on the same level of equality...even though there is poverty in local areas in the western world, it does not match that of 3rd world...
and why should any group of people be more privlaged to charity help than others because of geographical, ethnical or religious diversities???

one should start at the bottom and work their way up in order to feel the full effect of change!
that is exactly NOT possible for some,and there is nothing wrong to give them some help!

LovahBwoi's photo
Wed 05/22/13 05:42 AM


QUOTE: " itd not really about that you are the only one concerned about it, you are the only one taking the initiation to get people 'aware' of the fact what is happening in certain places certain parts of the world.

but really you posting it on this site, using money for internet electricity and sitting in your home wasteing time on this. does not really help the cause either my friend.

if you wanna do somethign about poverty sell all your items and move to the third world and live there to make a change, sending money and food and complaining that others are 'shut-eyed' about the fact is pretty hypocritical.
its like having an unfinished plate of food and arguing that eating it is better than throwing it since people half around the world are starving!

you wanna help, you gotta be there in their form, live their life dont belive what they say on the news its all rigged so everyone looks better than the other they are accusing. there is so much more out there than what meets the eye!
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lovahbwoi
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Wed 03/07/12 02:26 AM
i recon it all comes from self intrests and greed throughout history!
if the aspect MONEY would havve been cancelled formt his world than the word poverty would totally change!
im waiting for the day the world turns on itself and we all have to start from scratch agian with no electricty and computers that is when the ipoverized people will survive and the rich and spoilled will no longer know how to continue thier so long defined life in perfection!


Many places within the 'third and fourth worlds' have basically resorted to the age old barter system for food and even shelter that can be traded especially by crafts people that can make things for the rents or even 'purchase of living quarters in many places in several African and Arabic areas around the Gulf of Aden where poverty is totally ignored by the so called self-styled 'saviors of
Islam', the Saudis and their billions. Most of the endemic poverty areas all happen to be of the wrong religious persuasion not being Sunny or the Saudi Wahabi fanatics( like those Saudis that flew the jets into the Twin Towers).
Having spent some years all over Africa the only consistent efforts by any of the Europeans has come from mostly the French and their military who also provide the basic safeguards for stability for several countries. Unfortunately, as the quoted post above implies, the local politics are sometimes and in most places a severe 'dis-service' to the people of many countries who care only about how much they can embezzle for the Swiss bank accounts. Perhaps one significant step the Swiss could take as they have for the American Govt. in notifying them of suspected income tax evaders that have accounts there, would be to freeze the bank accounts of the dictators until they are out of power. To take the moneys and other riches held in secret bank vaults for later return to a bona-fide govt. The major powers at the UN could back a UN mandated notice of freeze and confiscation and nullify any attempts for any dictator or their cronies to get those moneys back. This was brought up many years ago to certain UN officials in the security services but despite a very positive attitude to doing it, the Secretary General's staff at the UN quickly blocked that ideas from ever being brought up for debate...one can only try.
The English have a very negative attitude toward the impoverished in the third world; it has always struck me as if they are still locked into a 19th century mannerism of looking down their proverbial noses at them. Even countries that became independent from England kept not only the basic forms of British govt. but also kept that attitude. In one former colonial military, we had passed through a very badly poverty hit area with crop failure, drought and terrorists attacks. We stopped outside one village and within an hour some of the women with babies came toward out camp, stopped about 50 meters from us and just knelt to await for someone in command to ask them what they wanted...after 2 hours of waiting in the nearly 40 Celsius heat, I had enough and gathered up water cans and took it out to them, came back, took up a collection of our rations and went back to give it to them amidst other soldiers saying I was going go get into trouble for this. They were right. I was actually charged with possible association with terrorists...
The entire matter was later dropped by our Commandant upon return from patrol several days later. We had some former Portuguese officers with us as well as French and they were all appalled at the British attitudes of refusing to help the people that they were ostensibly defending, as many spoke out in favour of my actions. After the charges were dropped, somehow, I was still fined about fifty dollars 'for administrative costs'...Afterwards, our patrols took a lot of extra rations and handed them out as we went through villages.
In Tchad, with the French, we always had food trucks with us to give the poor and usually near starving villagers living on the rims of the encroaching sands of the Sahara that would ruin all their crops. The Brits could never understand that...to simply be humane in an inhumane world is always welcome and desperately needed. My apologies for the length of this . It just struck an old nerve.


Didn't read a word of that....,too many words.

I did see Saudi in there a few times...but...per capital...they are right next to the Swiss as far as wealth.

Matters naught.....you might read the posts above you before laying out that Tolstoy epic on us.



its the truth though! this is how people have evolved though the years and their cultures and that so called long letter - that is the way one helps poverty by disobeying orders of the system which forces us to watch with tied hands!
why defend the same people you are starving? another buisness plan?

level the plane, put yourself in a equal position, as you could never walk in their shoes!

LovahBwoi's photo
Wed 05/22/13 05:50 AM


true. but in my opinion help is need to get everyone on the same level of equality...even though there is poverty in local areas in the western world, it does not match that of 3rd world...
and why should any group of people be more privlaged to charity help than others because of geographical, ethnical or religious diversities???

one should start at the bottom and work their way up in order to feel the full effect of change!
that is exactly NOT possible for some,and there is nothing wrong to give them some help!


am not saying to help every single individual...cuz even the rich people need help!
they need some serious personality-check!!!
i am sayign if you want to make a differnece start at the bottom!
and moeny itself will not solve the problem permanently!
Wisdom is the key, educate them, guide them, and when they can stadn ont heir own than leave them and am sure they will be mroe than greatfull!
i have seen both the positive and the negative sides of helping out other people!!!

if ther could only be a way to get rid of self-intrest adn greed, than i am sure elp is in so muc less of a need!

Dodo_David's photo
Wed 05/22/13 07:43 AM
Folks, as I said earlier, I regret starting this thread.
At the time that I started it, I was under the influence of prescription medication that was causing me to have bad mood swings. Upon realizing my mistake, I voluntarily suspended myself from Mingle2 until my medication was corrected.

Besides, my essay about poverty is written for a Christian audience. So, the specifics of that essay are not appropriate for this particular forum. I will reserve discussions particular to the Christian faith for the "Christian singles" forum.

Anyway, it is not my job to tell others how to respond to poverty.

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Wed 05/22/13 12:38 PM

Folks, as I said earlier, I regret starting this thread.
At the time that I started it, I was under the influence of prescription medication that was causing me to have bad mood swings. Upon realizing my mistake, I voluntarily suspended myself from Mingle2 until my medication was corrected.

Besides, my essay about poverty is written for a Christian audience. So, the specifics of that essay are not appropriate for this particular forum. I will reserve discussions particular to the Christian faith for the "Christian singles" forum.

Anyway, it is not my job to tell others how to respond to poverty.


Hi D D

It may be hard for you (because you started the thread) to see how it is developing, but again I would like to say that it is turning into a good well balanced thread. Nothing to feel weird about my friend. I don't think people are focused on the beginning (I wasn't) but more on how it has, and needs to be, developed.

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Wed 05/22/13 12:45 PM



true. but in my opinion help is need to get everyone on the same level of equality...even though there is poverty in local areas in the western world, it does not match that of 3rd world...
and why should any group of people be more privlaged to charity help than others because of geographical, ethnical or religious diversities???

one should start at the bottom and work their way up in order to feel the full effect of change!
that is exactly NOT possible for some,and there is nothing wrong to give them some help!


am not saying to help every single individual...cuz even the rich people need help!
they need some serious personality-check!!!
i am sayign if you want to make a differnece start at the bottom!
and moeny itself will not solve the problem permanently!
Wisdom is the key, educate them, guide them, and when they can stadn ont heir own than leave them and am sure they will be mroe than greatfull!
i have seen both the positive and the negative sides of helping out other people!!!

if ther could only be a way to get rid of self-intrest adn greed, than i am sure elp is in so muc less of a need!


Thanks for your posts! It's very important to hear this part of the equation. There have been many times I have stood in "mission fields" (for lack of better words) a thought how much would this change the average self hoarder. If we spend more time building others we would add to our own worth.

jessejames2's photo
Sun 05/26/13 10:14 PM
corn for fuel and cows.

how aboot that!


grain surplus in poor areas....nowhere to store it! rots.

how aboot that!


poisoned fish in lakes.

how aboot that!


nobody plants gardens anymore.

how aboot that!


aw hell i could go forever