lol, whole lotta fluff and nothing to back it up again.

At least jb responded by posting her evidence to refute my challenge. All you got is idle chatter and no courage to post your answers to my questions....

predictable, actually...

You're getting treacherously close to telling another what a ritual means to them... careful with that.

The term "sacrifice" is loaded. Whether or not their is killing for the purpose of sacrifice matters. To call all killing of prey animals "sacrifice" is suspect. A sacrifice for the purpose of appeasing God, assumes that God would be appeased by such a thing.

We eat animals.

look a couple posts up lol. already explained my fouled comment about the sacrifice.

Hello mr. pot, I'm mr. kettle.

What's that? You missed my prediction way back on page 10?


Let me know when you have something to offer Mr. Schizophrenic.

Who are you right now, pot or kettle?

We were all originally intended to be "herbivores; that is to say "vegetarians".

I am not responding to your post.

Rather to your Avatar.

Interesting thing about ancient names for God.

When you stand it up.

It is the symbol of a human.

Is it not.

More than one way to preserve 'made in the Image of'...

Is there not?

Question: "What is the meaning and importance of the

Last Supper?"




Answer: The Last Supper is recorded in the Synoptic Gospels (Matthew

26:17-30; Mark 14:12-26; Luke 22:7-30). It was both a Passover meal

and the last meal Jesus had with His apostles before His arrest and

subsequent crucifixion. One of the important moments of the Last

Supper is Jesus’ command to remember what He was about to do on

behalf of all mankind: shed His blood on the cross thereby paying

the debt of our sins (Luke 22:19).




In addition to predicting His suffering and death for the kingdom of

God (Luke 22:15-16), Jesus also foretold Peter’s denial of Him

(Luke 22:34) and Judas Iscariot’s betrayal (Matthew 26:21-24).




The Passover feast was an especially holy event for the Jewish

people in that it remembered the time when God spared them from the

plague of physical death in Egypt (Exodus 11:1-13:16). During this

last meal with His apostles, Jesus took two symbols associated with

Passover and imbued them with new meaning as a way to remember His

sacrifice, which saves us from spiritual death: “And He took a cup,

and when He had given thanks He said, ‘Take this, and divide it

among yourselves. For I tell you that from now on I will not drink

of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes.’ And He

took bread, and when He had given thanks, He broke it and gave it

to them, saying, ‘This is My body, which is given for you. Do this

in remembrance of Me.’ And likewise the cup after they had eaten,

saying, ‘This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in

My blood’” (Luke 22:17-20).




Also during the Last Supper, Jesus taught the principle of

servanthood as He washed His disciples’ feet: “Let the greatest

among you become as the youngest, and the leader as one who serves.

For who is the greater, one who reclines at table or one who

serves? Is it not the one who reclines at the table? But I am among

you as the one who serves” (Luke 22:26-27).




The Last Supper is commemorated today in the Lord’s Supper (1

Corinthians 11:23-33). The Bible teaches us that Jesus’ death is

linked to the offering of the Passover sacrifice. John notes that

Jesus' death resembles the Passover sacrifice in that His bones

were not broken (John 19:36; Exodus 12:46). The Apostle Paul echoed

this: “For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed” (1

Corinthians 5:7). Typically, the Passover meal was a family

celebration. However, at the Last Supper, the apostles were alone

with Jesus (Luke 22:14), which suggests that this particular meal

has specific meaning for the church, of which the apostles were the

foundation (Ephesians 2:20). While this meal had implications for

the Jews, it was designed for the church as well. The Last Supper

was rooted in the Old Covenant as it heralded the New.




In comparing the crucifixion of Jesus to the Passover, we can

readily see the REDEMPTIVE nature of Christ’s death. As with the

original Passover sacrifice in the Old Testament, CHRIST'S DEATH

ATONES FOR THE SINS of His people, HIS BLOOD PURIFIES and CLEANSES

and RESCUES us from death. Today, the Lord’s Supper is a time when

believers reflect upon Christ’s perfect sacrifice and know that

through our faith in receiving Him, we will dine with Him forever.


(Revelation 3:20).

gotquestions.org

Yup, very poetic if you ask me.

Here's the explanation that was deleted from one of my posts:
I like the alternative translation for the Name revealed to Moses...


As appears in the OnlineInterlinear version: Exodus 3:13
http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/OTpdf/exo3.pdf

אֶהְיֶה = I AM THAT I AM OR I SHALL BECOME WHO I AM BECOMING



And as is usually found for the name of God.
יהוה = YHWH = God, the Lord, Jehovah, Yahweh

Hebrew-English traslation
http://translation.babylon.com/hebrew/to-english/


YHWH spelled vertically instead of right-left

י Yod (yode)
ה He (hey)
ו Vav (vahv)
ה He (hey)

Below are some Exerts taken from the website Jeannie

shared esrlier.

( EXCELLENT WEBSITE, JEANNIE !!! BIBLICALLY CORRECT TOO!!! )


.....................................................................


Jesus Christ has done what could not be done by the law (10:1), all

the sacrifices--including the Day of Atonement--(10:1, 2, 3, 4, 5,

6, 8), or the levitical priesthood (10:11). His sacrifice has

permanently (10:10, 12, 14) cleansed our consciences (10:2, cf.

10:22), done the will of God (10:7, 9, 10), taken away sins

(10:12), perfected those who are sanctified (10:13), abolished the

old (10:1, 9), established a new covenant (10:1, 16), written God's

law on our hearts and in our minds (10:16), brought forgiveness of

sins (10:17, 18), and put an end to sacrifices (10:18).




http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/info/hebrews-larm.html

yes and the symbol is two fold when 'standing vertically'.

It represents the standing man (to the one eye)...

and the Expectant Mother (to the other).

yet to both it is Mankind.

Indeed is the word powerfull.

it contains all the aspects of God.

The Father, the Mother, the Child...

In a single word.

Would not the eye that sees either one or the other totally miss the power behind the word?


I for one never even considered that it was male or female.

Is it not said?

If you but close one eye and open the other...

and having done so when both eyes are open again the world becomes a most amazing place.

Creative:

Yes we do,(eat animals) and so apparently do the gods.

What I post is of course my own opinion or idea. I don't tell people what to believe.

Primitive mankind, ages ago, encountering an advanced race of beings would most probably view them as gods. Or primitive mankind encountering aliens, or extraterrestrials from the sky, (called Elohim in the Bible) would have probably viewed them as gods.

Some of these "advanced" race of beings may have viewed primitive humans as nothing more than animals. Some of them may have even eaten these primitive humans.

I don't believe in gods walking the earth. And yet primitive humans tell many tales of them, made many sacrifices to them. Were they simply insane and delusional, or did they mistake an advanced race of beings (or flesh eating aliens) for gods?

I see no warrant for most religious beliefs that I've become aware of. That is not to say that I deny the possibility of a creator, only that possibility alone does not satisfy my own personal standard of what something takes to be true.

Your "personal standard" has no effect as to whether something is true or not or even what it takes for something to be true. It's only effect is that of your abilty to recognise and/or acknowledge truth.

That goes for you too Peter.

I never claimed otherwise, so what's your point?

My point is that you should preach to yourself.

You italicized your in your post (to Creative) as if to imply that his ability to recognise and/or acknowledge truth is questionable. You also put personal standard in quotations, mocking his use of the term.

It seems clear that you believe your ability to recognize and/or acknowledge truth is superior to everyone else. You attitude does show.

Not everyone is going to believe as you do. Perhaps should get rid of the chip on your shoulder and just get over it.

Are you serious?

I advocate that everyone should read these things and make up their own mind. I tell people to NOT believe everything they've been told. I do NOT belittle another's logic nor attempt to attack another's intelligence. I offer EVERYONE the same right to judge for themselves. creative asked me how I knew if I judged correctly? It doesn't matter as he didn't make a judgement to compare to mine... I really do not care what anyone thinks about my "thought processes".

I can respect someone who brings to the conversation a little decorum and intellectual honesty, whether I agree with them or not. It's those who make claims and refuse to back them up that are the ones who don't have what it takes...

I don't have to know what is true to apply logic. I can apply logic to possibilties without the need to have spectacular evidence. We're dealing with something written almost 2000 years ago, I wasn't there to witness it. It is much easier to show what is false so that is what I do. There are plenty of rumors about the Bible that are simply not true, "eternal damnation" is one of them. Anyone who can read can check.

Just be aware that if I challenge something, I am most certainly sure of my position. That "chip" is confidence. If you want it gone, you'll have to prove me wrong, not speculate about it, else it won't be going anywhere.


Don't hate me because I'm right, hate me because I'm an azzhole... << Me