You've either missed the point being made, or you've grasped it's brute force and you're ignoring it. Whatever the case may be, I would not dare to call anyone "mistaken about their own feelings". I do not think that feelings can be mistaken. I mean, assuming that they're being experienced, then they're not mistaken. Now, whether or not those feelings are based upon true thought/belief is another matter altogether and personal delusion is not the issue.

That being said, the mistake is in thinking that feelings(the heart/conscience) serve as an adequate criterion for sound judgment. That cannot be the case, for if it were then everyone would be correct in their judgment regarding things, and that can't be right. That is supported by our knowing that different people feel differently about the same things and therefore draw different conclusions. So, either everyone's judgment is sound, which cannot be the case, or we are forced to conclude that at least some people have gotten things wrong.

In summary, if I accept that what you say is true, in other words - if it is the case that the heart/conscience serves as an adequate criterion from which to correctly judge divinity, then it only follows that the folks that sacrifice other people and animals have judged soundly.

Thus, your answer is sorely lacking. It takes more than just heart/conscience in order to determine whether or not something is true, and that includes knowing which verses are divinely inspired.

If you eat fried chicken, or hamburger or any other flesh, and you think sacrifice is "sick and demented" then YOU are sick and demented. An animal was sacrificed so that you can eat that meal.

The sacrifice ritual is acknowledgement of how the animal had to die to feed the people or the gods.

So are you a vegetarian? Or a vegan? Plants are also living things.

When you bow you head and pray to thank God for your meal, what ever it is, you are acknowledging the sacrifice.

When we buy meat in our supermarket, it is nicely prepared. We may not even see the blood that was shed to bring that meal to us. We eat it often without thanking God or thanking the animal who died so that we can live.

The sacrifice ritual is symbolic of this eat or be eaten world. To live in physical bodies we must consume other living things. It happens daily. Go to a meat packing plant and watch as thousands of cows are herded down a fenced path and killed, then cut up within twenty minutes. Go to a chicken processing plant and watch how chickens are killed and packaged.

Sick and demented? Maybe it is. But we continue to eat our chicken and our hamburgers, not thinking about the death and the blood that was shed so we can eat.

That is the world we live in.

I don't think that that is the sort of sacrifice that is being talked about Jb. Sacrifice to appease God, or to atone(make up for) one's sin is the focus.

I realize that, but if you study the history of animal sacrifice, it is all about food.

Even Jesus said that his disciples needed to eat his flesh and drink his blood.

There are countries even today who have a ritual sacrifice of their food and pray to their gods and thank them, then they eat the animal. They don't normally throw it away unless they are symbolically offering it to their gods.

It boils down to the fact that we must kill and eat other living things in order to live.

That's just not the case Jb. There are all kinds of examples of sacrificing the first born son, or of sacrificing a virgin to the volcano god, etc.

It's not all about eating and drinking. The communion ceremony of which you speak is in rememberance of the crucifixion.

Sorry, I have to chuckle and tell you something...


Had you answered that question 12 pages ago and paid attention to my short explanation, you may have known how I arrive at my conclussions...

You don't think so because you don't believe in the reptilian gods of the dark ages who ate children and drank their blood. You don't realize there are people who did believe in them.

When you consider them in the mix it all makes perfect sense.

Also add to that, the Greek Myths of Ancient Crete where young people were sacrificed to the Minotaur. (Was there a Minotaur or just a hideous creepy old man who liked to murder children?) -- or was it just a myth?

Myths of dragons and virgins sacrificed to them also.

Its all about feeding the monster or the god.

I'm not saying that these myths are true. But people believe in gods.

Read David Icke, The Biggest Secret. People believe that too.

Rather sacrificing for food or for spiritual energy as is done in witchcraft, it is all about energy. Food is energy.

Otherwise none of it makes any "logical" sense at all.

If you call that logical.

Doesn't make much sense to me. There are countless religious beliefs that I'm unaware of. I'm sure some are accurately described by your words. Not all are though, that's all I'm sayin'.

What doesn't make any sense at all is a pointless slaughter for no reason. A sacrifice, on the other hand is like a payment. It is a trade off. We sacrifice animals (kill animals) in order to live. We need energy to live.

This world and this universe is all about an exchange of energy and information. Life consumes life.

It is a shame that we must eat a living thing in order to live in this physical world. A sacrifice acknowledges this fact. It acknowledges that we appreciate and are thankful for the life that was taken in order that we can live.

That even resembles what Christianity states over and over. Jesus died so that we may live. The Bible says that Jesus told people that they must eat his flesh and drink his blood to have eternal life. That is symbolic of what a sacrifice is for. It is all symbolism.

It all symbolizes this world where in order to live, some living thing must die.

Show me where it says that (the bolded words above)...

"I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you" (John 6:53)

How about this:

Jesus said to them,

"I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in him.

John 6:53-56

John 6:32-36
New International Version (NIV)

32 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, it is not Moses who has given you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is the bread that comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”

34 “Sir,” they said, “always give us this bread.”

35 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. 36 But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe.



Are you going to argue for a literal interpretation now?

No because I don't care.

You cared enough to post about it yet not enough to support your claims, I get it...



Antagonizing...

Question: "What is the importance of the Lord's supper

/ Christian Communion?"




Answer: A study of the Lord’s Supper is a soul-stirring experience

because of the depth of meaning it contains. It was during the age-

old celebration of the Passover on the eve of His death that Jesus

instituted a significant new fellowship meal that we observe to

this day. It is an integral part of Christian worship. It causes us

to remember our Lord’s death and resurrection and to look for His

glorious return in the future.




The Passover was the most sacred feast of the Jewish religious year.

It commemorated the final plague on Egypt when the firstborn of the

Egyptians died and the Israelites were spared because of the blood

of a lamb that was sprinkled on their doorposts. The lamb was then

roasted and eaten with unleavened bread. God’s command was that

throughout the generations to come the feast would be celebrated.

The story is recorded in Exodus 12.




During the Last Supper—a Passover celebration—Jesus took a loaf of

bread and gave thanks to God. As He broke it and gave it to His

disciples, He said, “’This is my body given for you; do this in

remembrance of me.’ In the same way, after the supper he took the

cup, saying, ‘This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is

poured out for you’” (Luke 22:19-21). He concluded the feast by

singing a hymn (Matthew 26:30), and they went out into the night to

the Mount of Olives. It was there that Jesus was betrayed, as

predicted, by Judas. The following day He was crucified.




The accounts of the Lord’s Supper are found in the Gospels (Matthew

26:26-29; Mark 14:17-25; Luke 22:7-22; and John 13:21-30). The

apostle Paul wrote concerning the Lord’s Supper in 1 Corinthians

11:23-29. Paul includes a statement not found in the

Gospels: “Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of

the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the

body and blood of the Lord. A man ought to examine himself before

he eats of the bread and drinks of the cup. For anyone who eats and

drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks

judgment on himself” (1 Corinthians 11:27-29). We may ask what it

means to partake of the bread and the cup “in an unworthy manner.”



It may mean to disregard the true meaning of the bread and cup and

to forget the tremendous price our Savior paid for our salvation.

Or it may mean to allow the ceremony to become a dead and formal

ritual or to come to the Lord’s Supper with unconfessed sin. In

keeping with Paul’s instruction, we should examine ourselves before

eating the bread and drinking the cup.




He declared that the bread spoke of His body which would be broken.

There was not a broken bone, but His body was so badly tortured

that it was hardly recognizable (Psalm 22:12-17; Isaiah 53:4-7).

The wine spoke of His blood, indicating the terrible death He would

soon experience. He, the perfect Son of God, became the fulfillment

of the countless Old Testament prophecies concerning a Redeemer

(Genesis 3:15; Psalm 22, Isaiah 53). When He said, “Do this in

remembrance of me,” He indicated this was a ceremony that must be

continued in the future. It indicated also that the Passover, which

required the death of a lamb and looked forward to the coming of

the Lamb of God who would take away the sin of the world, was

fulfilled in the Lord’s Supper. The New Covenant replaced the Old

Covenant when Christ, the Passover Lamb (1 Corinthians 5:7), was

sacrificed (Hebrews 8:8-13). The sacrificial system was no longer

needed (Hebrews 9:25-28). The Lord’s Supper/Christian Communion is

a REMEMBRANCE of what Christ did for us and a celebration of what

we receive as a result of His sacrifice.


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Alright smart mouth. Your verses were not numbered the same as the ones I posted anyway.

Also since just about everyone interprets verses however they please and everyone's interpretation is different, I don't see any sense arguing interpretations.

You just want to argue.

I simply posted the verse you requested.

No you didn't. You posted something different and backpedaled.



This is what happens when a person simply believes everything they're told and does not check for themself.