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Topic: Do You Have The Right To Believe
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Mon 02/27/12 09:55 AM

Cowboy is right in the sense that "God" is NOT A NAME.

"Dad" is not a name either. Is it a "title?" Its not really that either. But it is NOT a name.

"God" and "god" is a term used to refer to a position. It is like a description. "Dad" is the position of a specific person who is a Father and the term used in the place of a proper name when it it capitalized. "dad" is a term used to refer to anyone who is a father.

A god is a supreme or superior being, perhaps with supernatural powers.

"God" capitalized denotes a particular being who is a supreme or superior being with supernatural powers. The term "God" is being used in place of a proper name. (Like "Dad.")

But Cowboy is right. It is not a name, it is more like a term describing the person or entity's authority or power.

So Cowboy is speaking about the term "God." He is not speaking about the individual or being the term actually represents. He is defining the term.

The god of the Bible has been tagged with many names. "God" is not one of them.



drinker

So what is a title? Something like "President" or "Captain" or "Baroness" or "Queen"


Exactly. "God" is not his name. It is a title moreorless, can't think of a word better to use then "title". That is why when Jesus was on the cross he didn't just say "God, God, why hast thou forsaken me". He said "MY GOD, MY GOD,...."

Jesus referred to his father on the cross as "My God" showing his father's superiority to him. And is why he didn't just say "father, father, why hast thou forsaken me"

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Mon 02/27/12 10:00 AM


Cowboy is right in the sense that "God" is NOT A NAME.

"Dad" is not a name either. Is it a "title?" Its not really that either. But it is NOT a name.

"God" and "god" is a term used to refer to a position. It is like a description. "Dad" is the position of a specific person who is a Father and the term used in the place of a proper name when it it capitalized. "dad" is a term used to refer to anyone who is a father.

A god is a supreme or superior being, perhaps with supernatural powers.

"God" capitalized denotes a particular being who is a supreme or superior being with supernatural powers. The term "God" is being used in place of a proper name. (Like "Dad.")

But Cowboy is right. It is not a name, it is more like a term describing the person or entity's authority or power.

So Cowboy is speaking about the term "God." He is not speaking about the individual or being the term actually represents. He is defining the term.

The god of the Bible has been tagged with many names. "God" is not one of them.



drinker

So what is a title? Something like "President" or "Captain" or "Baroness" or "Queen"


Exactly. "God" is not his name. It is a title moreorless, can't think of a word better to use then "title". That is why when Jesus was on the cross he didn't just say "God, God, why hast thou forsaken me". He said "MY GOD, MY GOD,...."

Jesus referred to his father on the cross as "My God" showing his father's superiority to him. And is why he didn't just say "father, father, why hast thou forsaken me"


Its not a title because like "Dad" you are either a dad or you are not a dad. It cannot be like a title that is bestowed upon you like "president."

A title can be given, assigned or taken away. But if you are a god, you are always a god. If you are a dad, you are always a dad.


CowboyGH's photo
Mon 02/27/12 10:24 AM



Cowboy is right in the sense that "God" is NOT A NAME.

"Dad" is not a name either. Is it a "title?" Its not really that either. But it is NOT a name.

"God" and "god" is a term used to refer to a position. It is like a description. "Dad" is the position of a specific person who is a Father and the term used in the place of a proper name when it it capitalized. "dad" is a term used to refer to anyone who is a father.

A god is a supreme or superior being, perhaps with supernatural powers.

"God" capitalized denotes a particular being who is a supreme or superior being with supernatural powers. The term "God" is being used in place of a proper name. (Like "Dad.")

But Cowboy is right. It is not a name, it is more like a term describing the person or entity's authority or power.

So Cowboy is speaking about the term "God." He is not speaking about the individual or being the term actually represents. He is defining the term.

The god of the Bible has been tagged with many names. "God" is not one of them.



drinker

So what is a title? Something like "President" or "Captain" or "Baroness" or "Queen"


Exactly. "God" is not his name. It is a title moreorless, can't think of a word better to use then "title". That is why when Jesus was on the cross he didn't just say "God, God, why hast thou forsaken me". He said "MY GOD, MY GOD,...."

Jesus referred to his father on the cross as "My God" showing his father's superiority to him. And is why he didn't just say "father, father, why hast thou forsaken me"


Its not a title because like "Dad" you are either a dad or you are not a dad. It cannot be like a title that is bestowed upon you like "president."

A title can be given, assigned or taken away. But if you are a god, you are always a god. If you are a dad, you are always a dad.




Yeah true, just again couldn't think of a better word for it lol.

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Mon 02/27/12 11:06 AM



Funches ,
as I know the holly books are just books written by different ppl in different times and interpreted in different ways.



according to believers these holy books were "inspired by God"....but unfortunetly trying to get an exact meaning as to what "inspired from God" is from a believer would in itself require a miracle

"inspired by God" could mean anything from God whispering the words in their ear to possessing their bodies and using their hands to write the content...


Thanks Funches ,
You accepted my idea that books are ‘inspired by God’ but written and interpreted by different ppl .

About ‘God inspired ‘ can answer only who claim that . Erm…. Dan Brown also or Paulo Coelho as well






Each book is a moral codes and very precious of each religion but
they are just books ..



but they are book of Faith...somehow Faith magically change regular books into super books



That’s the right and privilege of each religion or belief .. That is according to the choice of members to follow , worship, keep , change etc. them



...I'll reveal how this is accomplish if someone ever reveal what Faith actually is


Faith and religion .. that is both side of one process …
If one of them miss the process is impossible or going like fake one .




God doesn't need books to reveal and display his power or existence



generally God use lightning bolts to carve out his words in stone as he done with Moses...but trying to reproduce those stone tablets so that each believer or motel room has one seems a daunting task...and think about Jehovah Witnesses having to carry those stone tablets to people homes that they wake up early in the morning.....this is why believers thought it best to put the stone tablets into paperback format,



Funches ,
Since ppl start to write /pictograms , signs , typing machines , computers etc. / they try to write the best story ever . According the times they live that script , book and whatever there became as popular as they succeed to get ppl’s attention by saying something very interesting , wise , useful , solving their problems etc. .
Ancient ppl tried to explain the world according their knowledge and experience …They created book in which they gathered moral laws and rules according their society and its need
Thousand years they were the only official books by which church ruled the politics, culture and even economics of countries , finding the golden alibi and reason : God said
Today ppl follow these holy books by tradition .. not because they are strictly believers in all stories …
God doesn’t need church , pope , preachers ,books etc . to display his power .




So how do you know that God order ppl to kill ppl ?



because within one of these holy books God tells a believer name Abraham to kill his only son Isaac as a burnt offering


As you see not God but ppl /church, synagogue, mosque / according their needs order ppl to kill ppl …

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Mon 02/27/12 11:27 AM

Cowboy is right in the sense that "God" is NOT A NAME.

"Dad" is not a name either. Is it a "title?" Its not really that either. But it is NOT a name.

"God" and "god" is a term used to refer to a position. It is like a description. "Dad" is the position of a specific person who is a Father and the term used in the place of a proper name when it it capitalized. "dad" is a term used to refer to anyone who is a father.

A god is a supreme or superior being, perhaps with supernatural powers.

"God" capitalized denotes a particular being who is a supreme or superior being with supernatural powers. The term "God" is being used in place of a proper name. (Like "Dad.")

But Cowboy is right. It is not a name, it is more like a term describing the person or entity's authority or power.

So Cowboy is speaking about the term "God." He is not speaking about the individual or being the term actually represents. He is defining the term.

The god of the Bible has been tagged with many names. "God" is not one of them.



drinker

So what is a title? Something like "President" or "Captain" or "Baroness" or "Queen"


human or aliens that are not omnipotent can only become God through identity theft ....you can steal God's I.D. card, but you can't steal his powers

this is why a true God would have nor need any other name but God


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Mon 02/27/12 11:29 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 02/27/12 11:30 AM
Funches, "God" is not a name. Duh!

Nobody is omnipotent.

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Mon 02/27/12 11:41 AM

As you see not God but ppl /church, synagogue, mosque / according their needs order ppl to kill ppl …


chocolina....believers have Faith that the voices that they hear which are telling them to kill is the voice of God

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Mon 02/27/12 11:45 AM

Funches, "God" is not a name. Duh!

Nobody is omnipotent.


and that's why humans aren't Gods ...you have to be omnipotent to be a God...it's a union thing

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Mon 02/27/12 11:48 AM


Funches, "God" is not a name. Duh!

Nobody is omnipotent.


and that's why humans aren't Gods ...you have to be omnipotent to be a God...it's a union thing


That assumes that a god is omnipotent. The Bible proves that a god is not omnipotent in its many stories.

Gods are not omnipotent.

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Mon 02/27/12 11:57 AM



Funches, "God" is not a name. Duh!

Nobody is omnipotent.


and that's why humans aren't Gods ...you have to be omnipotent to be a God...it's a union thing


That assumes that a god is omnipotent. The Bible proves that a god is not omnipotent in its many stories.

Gods are not omnipotent.


the bible proves that Gods that create are only capable of creating imperfection which is why a perfect or true God would have no need to create...anything

CowboyGH's photo
Mon 02/27/12 12:08 PM




Funches, "God" is not a name. Duh!

Nobody is omnipotent.


and that's why humans aren't Gods ...you have to be omnipotent to be a God...it's a union thing


That assumes that a god is omnipotent. The Bible proves that a god is not omnipotent in its many stories.

Gods are not omnipotent.


the bible proves that Gods that create are only capable of creating imperfection which is why a perfect or true God would have no need to create...anything


Nothing God created is imperfect.

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Mon 02/27/12 12:11 PM





Funches, "God" is not a name. Duh!

Nobody is omnipotent.


and that's why humans aren't Gods ...you have to be omnipotent to be a God...it's a union thing


That assumes that a god is omnipotent. The Bible proves that a god is not omnipotent in its many stories.

Gods are not omnipotent.


the bible proves that Gods that create are only capable of creating imperfection which is why a perfect or true God would have no need to create...anything


Nothing God created is imperfect.


the bible said that God grieved....so Cowboy....do you grieve when things are perfect?

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Mon 02/27/12 12:13 PM





Funches, "God" is not a name. Duh!

Nobody is omnipotent.


and that's why humans aren't Gods ...you have to be omnipotent to be a God...it's a union thing


That assumes that a god is omnipotent. The Bible proves that a god is not omnipotent in its many stories.

Gods are not omnipotent.


the bible proves that Gods that create are only capable of creating imperfection which is why a perfect or true God would have no need to create...anything


Nothing God created is imperfect.



Then I am perfect.

CowboyGH's photo
Mon 02/27/12 12:13 PM






Funches, "God" is not a name. Duh!

Nobody is omnipotent.


and that's why humans aren't Gods ...you have to be omnipotent to be a God...it's a union thing


That assumes that a god is omnipotent. The Bible proves that a god is not omnipotent in its many stories.

Gods are not omnipotent.


the bible proves that Gods that create are only capable of creating imperfection which is why a perfect or true God would have no need to create...anything


Nothing God created is imperfect.


the bible said that God grieved....so Cowboy....do you grieve when things are perfect?


God greived at those people's actions. God did not create those people's actions.

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Mon 02/27/12 12:17 PM






Funches, "God" is not a name. Duh!

Nobody is omnipotent.


and that's why humans aren't Gods ...you have to be omnipotent to be a God...it's a union thing


That assumes that a god is omnipotent. The Bible proves that a god is not omnipotent in its many stories.

Gods are not omnipotent.


the bible proves that Gods that create are only capable of creating imperfection which is why a perfect or true God would have no need to create...anything


Nothing God created is imperfect.



Then I am perfect.



so God created you?...I thought you were God? ....

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Mon 02/27/12 12:19 PM

God greived at those people's actions. God did not create those people's actions.


doesn't matter why God grieved...it's the fact that he did grieve....normal humans nor Gods grieve at perfection..

CowboyGH's photo
Mon 02/27/12 12:20 PM







Funches, "God" is not a name. Duh!

Nobody is omnipotent.


and that's why humans aren't Gods ...you have to be omnipotent to be a God...it's a union thing


That assumes that a god is omnipotent. The Bible proves that a god is not omnipotent in its many stories.

Gods are not omnipotent.


the bible proves that Gods that create are only capable of creating imperfection which is why a perfect or true God would have no need to create...anything


Nothing God created is imperfect.



Then I am perfect.



so God created you?...I thought you were God? ....


She is perfect. That does not mean her or any specific person's actions or thoughts are perfect, for those are created by the person and their will. But as in just her in exacts, she is made perfectly.

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Mon 02/27/12 12:22 PM


God greived at those people's actions. God did not create those people's actions.


doesn't matter why God grieved...it's the fact that he did grieve....normal humans nor Gods grieve at perfection..


God did not greive at his creation. He seen his creation to be good. He greived at the creations actions, which are not perfect. Again, we create our actions, not God. When we create actions that go against God, it makes him greive. But again, HIS creation is perfect.

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Mon 02/27/12 12:23 PM








Funches, "God" is not a name. Duh!

Nobody is omnipotent.


and that's why humans aren't Gods ...you have to be omnipotent to be a God...it's a union thing


That assumes that a god is omnipotent. The Bible proves that a god is not omnipotent in its many stories.

Gods are not omnipotent.


the bible proves that Gods that create are only capable of creating imperfection which is why a perfect or true God would have no need to create...anything


Nothing God created is imperfect.



Then I am perfect.



so God created you?...I thought you were God? ....


She is perfect. That does not mean her or any specific person's actions or thoughts are perfect, for those are created by the person and their will. But as in just her in exacts, she is made perfectly.


her thoughts not being perfect is a reflection that she was created with an imperfect brain

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Mon 02/27/12 12:25 PM



God greived at those people's actions. God did not create those people's actions.


doesn't matter why God grieved...it's the fact that he did grieve....normal humans nor Gods grieve at perfection..


God did not greive at his creation. He seen his creation to be good. He greived at the creations actions, which are not perfect. Again, we create our actions, not God. When we create actions that go against God, it makes him greive. But again, HIS creation is perfect.


again doesn't matter why God grieved...if he was perfect then he wouldn't have grieved at all ...this is why I asked do you grieve when you done something perfect .....so do you? ..it's a simple yes or no question

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