Topic: Science and Faith Allies...not Enemies
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Tue 02/21/12 09:15 PM

Cowboy, don't waste your energy.

It's not worth it.

Let him think what he wants, he will anyway.


It's just entertaining lol. Funches is quite funny, he amuses me lol.

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Tue 02/21/12 09:21 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Tue 02/21/12 09:38 PM
What is really quite worrisome and so very very sad is.....

YOU Cowboy , are the one offering "Twisted "Words of

scripture on here...

and no one but God alone ,is able to help you see this.


:heart:

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Tue 02/21/12 09:24 PM


Do you actually read what you post to?

"Two of all flesh" is 1 male and 1 female of every species.


jeez...they were referring to animals ...the Jews had 12 tribes all of the same species ...

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Tue 02/21/12 09:27 PM

What is really quite worrisome is and so very very sad is.....

YOU Cowboy , are the one offering "Twisted "Words of

scripture on here...

and no one but God alone ,is able to help you see this.


:heart:


You say this, you say I'm always wrong, you say lots of foul things about me. But why bear false witness on another? For it can only be seen as "false" for you RARELY show me where I am wrong, only state that I am. But don't show vere(s) that state the contrary to me. Yes you have again a couple times, not say I'm perfect. But for the majority, you don't.

And to tell you the truth, sorry if this comes off a little blatant, but I couldn't care less if you THINK I am wrong or not. You just plainly stating that I am wrong doesn't matter to me, at that point and time it is purely an opinion, opinions are like butt holes. We all have one, but most of them stink. So unless you have some veres that state me being in the wrong, I ask that you please keep quiet, for what you say is meaningless unless it can be shown to be true.

Sorry if this comes across a bit ruthless. Just this has been irritating the far out of me for a long time now. I keep quiet most the time, but it's gone on long enough.

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Tue 02/21/12 09:30 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Tue 02/21/12 09:37 PM
Cowboy..Funches is right about 8 people being on

the Ark...it is right there in scriptures.....the website YOU

are referring to , is just misinterpreting Gods Word....


animals have emotions..they have souls too, btw...just not

spirits like humans do..but they have souls..go study God's

Word like Ruth also suggested..before further posting on here.

It gets tiring seeing you aways posting your foolishness on here.ohwell


ps...and please don't say I don't help...I have shown you

scriptures over and over and over and over..and it just goes right

over your head.

I have tried..there is only so much I can do.....

plus...it is not my job to study the Word for you ..it is your

job to study the Word, to get to knOw what the Word is REALLY

saying, instead of posting JUST your version on here all the time.










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Tue 02/21/12 09:35 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Tue 02/21/12 09:36 PM

Cowboy..Funches is right about 8 people being on

the ark...it is right there in scriptures.....the website YOU

are referring to , is just misinterpreting Gods Word....

aninals have emotions..they have souls too, btw...just not

spirits like humans do..but they have souls..go study God's

Word like Ruth also suggested..before further posting on here.

It gets tiring seeing you aways posting your foolishness on here.ohwell






And it gets tiresome, you posting your accusations.

The ONLY place "The breath of life" is referred is speaking of people. Not animals, not aliens, not anything other then people.


Genesis 2:7


7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.


So in the topic at hand, when it is said


Genesis 7:15


15And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life.


Or if you can show me where "breath of life" is in reference to animals.

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Tue 02/21/12 09:38 PM

Or if you can show me where "breath of life" is in reference to animals.


yes animals do not breathe, they are born holding their breath and they all eventually die from lack of oxygen

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Tue 02/21/12 09:42 PM


Or if you can show me where "breath of life" is in reference to animals.


yes animals do not breathe, they are born holding their breath and they all eventually die from lack of oxygen


Instead of trying to belittle anything, why do you not answer the question and or request. If it can not be done, then it still stands that "breath of life" is only in reference to a person(s). And nobody said anything about specifically anyone "breathing" or not. The breath of life is breathed into us by God, not us outward.

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Tue 02/21/12 09:42 PM
ALLLLLLLLL creatures breathe!!!!!!!

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Tue 02/21/12 09:44 PM

ALLLLLLLLL creatures breathe!!!!!!!


Yes all creatures breath.

But God did not breath the breath of life into all creations. Only to man. Unless of course you can show me a verse(s) that state God breathing the breath of life into specifically an animal.

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Tue 02/21/12 09:45 PM



Or if you can show me where "breath of life" is in reference to animals.


yes animals do not breathe, they are born holding their breath and they all eventually die from lack of oxygen


Instead of trying to belittle anything, why do you not answer the question and or request. If it can not be done, then it still stands that "breath of life" is only in reference to a person(s). And nobody said anything about specifically anyone "breathing" or not. The breath of life is breathed into us by God, not us outward.


because the question is an example of you being dense and holding up the debate...

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Tue 02/21/12 09:47 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Tue 02/21/12 09:48 PM


ALLLLLLLLL creatures breathe!!!!!!!


Yes all creatures breath.

But God did not breath the breath of life into all creations. Only to man. Unless of course you can show me a verse(s) that state God breathing the breath of life into specifically an animal.


Yes, God ONLY breathed into the NOSTRILS of

MAN...BUT God still created ALLLLL living things to BREATHE!!!

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Tue 02/21/12 09:53 PM



ALLLLLLLLL creatures breathe!!!!!!!


Yes all creatures breath.

But God did not breath the breath of life into all creations. Only to man. Unless of course you can show me a verse(s) that state God breathing the breath of life into specifically an animal.


Yes, God ONLY breathed into the NOSTRILS of

MAN...BUT God still created ALLLLL living things to BREATHE!!!


Never said he didn't... think there has been some missunderstanding on your side MorningSong.

Nothing was even remotly mentioned about animals, man, or anything else breathing. God breathed the breath of life into Adam. Man is the ONLY thing he breathed the breath of life into. We're not talking about a physical life. We're talking about a spiritual life.

This body is dead without my spirit but my soul is not dead without this body. This body has only a temporary life.

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Tue 02/21/12 10:00 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Tue 02/21/12 10:03 PM
Genesis 7:6-23
New American Standard Bible (NASB)

6 Now Noah was six hundred years old when the flood of water [a]came upon the earth. 7 Then Noah and his sons and his wife and his sons’ wives with him entered the ark because of the water of the flood. 8 Of clean animals and animals that are not clean and birds and everything that creeps on the ground, 9 there went into the ark to Noah by twos, male and female, as God had commanded Noah. 10 It came about after the seven days, that the water of the flood [c]came upon the earth. 11 In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on the same day all the fountains of the great deep burst open, and the [d]floodgates of the sky were opened. 12 The rain [e]fell upon the earth for forty days and forty nights.



13 On the very same day Noah and Shem and Ham and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah’s wife and the three wives of his sons with them, entered the ark, 14 they and every beast after its kind, and all the cattle after [f]their kind, and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth after its kind, and every bird after its kind, [g]all sorts of birds. 15 So they went into the ark to Noah, by twos of all flesh in which was the breath of life. 16 Those that entered, male and female of all flesh, entered as God had commanded him; and the LORD closed it behind him.



17 Then the flood [h]came upon the earth for forty days, and the water increased and lifted up the ark, so that it rose above the earth. 18 The water prevailed and increased greatly upon the earth, and the ark floated on the [j]surface of the water. 19 The water prevailed more and more upon the earth, so that all the high mountains [k]everywhere under the heavens were covered. 20 The water prevailed fifteen [l]cubits higher, and the mountains were covered. 21 All flesh that [m]moved on the earth perished, birds and cattle and beasts and every swarming thing that swarms upon the earth, and all mankind; 22 of all that was on the dry land, all in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, died. 23 Thus He blotted out [n]every living thing that was upon the face of the land, from man to animals to creeping things and to birds of the [o]sky, and they were blotted out from the earth; and only Noah was left, together with those that were with him in the ark.




NOTICE....ONLY 8 PEOPLE MENTIONED......

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Tue 02/21/12 10:03 PM

Genesis 7:6-23
New American Standard Bible (NASB)

6 Now Noah was six hundred years old when the flood of water [a]came upon the earth. 7 Then Noah and his sons and his wife and his sons’ wives with him entered the ark because of the water of the flood. 8 Of clean animals and animals that are not clean and birds and everything that creeps on the ground, 9 there went into the ark to Noah by twos, male and female, as God had commanded Noah. 10 It came about after the seven days, that the water of the flood [c]came upon the earth. 11 In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on the same day all the fountains of the great deep burst open, and the [d]floodgates of the sky were opened. 12 The rain [e]fell upon the earth for forty days and forty nights.



13 On the very same day Noah and Shem and Ham and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah’s wife and the three wives of his sons with them, entered the ark, 14 they and every beast after its kind, and all the cattle after [f]their kind, and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth after its kind, and every bird after its kind, [g]all sorts of birds. 15 So they went into the ark to Noah, by twos of all flesh in which was the breath of life. 16 Those that entered, male and female of all flesh, entered as God had commanded him; and the LORD closed it behind him.



17 Then the flood [h]came upon the earth for forty days, and the water increased and lifted up the ark, so that it rose above the earth. 18 The water prevailed and increased greatly upon the earth, and the ark floated on the [j]surface of the water. 19 The water prevailed more and more upon the earth, so that all the high mountains [k]everywhere under the heavens were covered. 20 The water prevailed fifteen [l]cubits higher, and the mountains were covered. 21 All flesh that [m]moved on the earth perished, birds and cattle and beasts and every swarming thing that swarms upon the earth, and all mankind; 22 of all that was on the dry land, all in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, died. 23 Thus He blotted out [n]every living thing that was upon the face of the land, from man to animals to creeping things and to birds of the [o]sky, and they were blotted out from the earth; and only Noah was left, together with those that were with him in the ark.








Genesis 7:15


15And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life.


Please find me a verse where it states aniamls of having the breath of life, or any connection between the two. The ONLY time "The reath of life" is in referrence is with man. But it is late tonight MorningSong, I will have to call it quits after this post. Good night my dear friend.

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Tue 02/21/12 10:06 PM
Goodnite to you too ,Cowboy.....


Love You Too , My Friend.


:heart::heart::heart:

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Wed 02/22/12 12:44 AM
For Cowboy:

17 And behold, I Myself am bringing floodwaters on the earth, TO DESTROY FROM UNDER HEAVEN ALL FLESH IN WHICH IS THE BREATH OF LIFE; everything that is on the earth shall die.

18 But I will establish My covenant with you; and you shall go into the ark—YOU,YOUR SONS,YOUR WIFE ,AND YOUR SONS' WIVES WITH YOU .


7 Then the Lord said to Noah, “Come into the ark, YOU AND ALL YOUR HOUSEHOLD, because I have seen that you are righteous before Me in this generation.

7 So ,NOAH ,WITH HIS SONS,HIS WIFE, AND HIS SONS' WIVES, went into the ark because of the waters of the flood



13 On the very same day NOAH AND NOAH'S SONS,SHEM,HAM, AND JAPHETH, AND NOAH'S WIFE, AND THE THREE WIVES OF HIS SONS' WITH THEM, ENTERED THE ARK—

14 they and every beast after its kind, all cattle after their kind, every creeping thing that creeps on the earth after its kind, and every bird after its kind, every bird of every sort. 15 And they went into the ark to Noah, two by two, OF ALL FLESH IN WHICH IS THE BREATH OF LIFE..

16 So THOSE THAT ENTERED,MALE AND FEMALE OF ALL FLESH , went in as God had commanded him; and the Lord shut him in.


21 And all flesh died that moved on the earth: birds and cattle and beasts and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth, and every man. 22

ALL IN WHOSE NOSTRILS WAS THE BREATH OF THE SPIRIT OF LIFE, all that was on the dry land, died. 23 So He destroyed all living things which were on the face of the ground: both man and cattle, creeping thing and bird of the air. They were destroyed from the earth.

Only Noah and those who were with him in the ark remained alive. 24 And the waters prevailed on the earth one hundred and fifty days.



15 Then God spoke to Noah, saying, 16 “Go out of the ark, YOU AND YOUR WIFE,AND YOUR SONS AND YOUR SONS' WIVES WITH YOU.

17 Bring out with you every living thing of all flesh that is with you: birds and cattle and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth, so that they may abound on the earth, and be fruitful and multiply on the earth.” 1

8 So NOAH WENT OUT,AND HIS SONS AND HIS WIFE AND HIS SONS' WIVES WITH HIM .


....................


Cowboy.....Notice how the breath of life is mentioned more than

once, and applies to all living things.....

also notice how the same 8 people are only mentioned... no

other people ever mentioned but them....


:heart::heart::heart:

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Wed 02/22/12 05:12 AM


God CREATED ONE MAN...ADAM.

God made Woman (Eve )...from the rib(side of Adam).


Afterwards, all things were maDe to REPRODUCE AFTER ITS OWN KIND.


After Adam and Eve,

all the rest of Mankind is FORMED in the womb, thru

REPRODUCTION...



NOT created .....but FORMED....




:heart::heart::heart:


If we all came from one man and one woman, that would be breaking God's laws about brothers sleeping with sisters and dad's sleeping with daughters, ect.



The mossaic law said that there could no longer be close relations ...but that law was given much much later,and therfore was not even in affect in adam and eve's time yet....

adam and eve were a very pure bloodline..no genetic dna problems could occur in such a pure bloodline yet...

but God gave the law to moses later, to not have close relations with close relatives such as a sister,brother, etc.

In the beginning it was not considered a sin, Cowboy.....
:heart:

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Wed 02/22/12 05:33 AM

adam and eve were a very pure bloodline..no genetic dna problems could occur in such a pure bloodline yet...


wouldn't Cain murdering his only brother Abel without justification imply a genetic defect?




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Wed 02/22/12 07:25 AM

For Cowboy:

17 And behold, I Myself am bringing floodwaters on the earth, TO DESTROY FROM UNDER HEAVEN ALL FLESH IN WHICH IS THE BREATH OF LIFE; everything that is on the earth shall die.

18 But I will establish My covenant with you; and you shall go into the ark—YOU,YOUR SONS,YOUR WIFE ,AND YOUR SONS' WIVES WITH YOU .


7 Then the Lord said to Noah, “Come into the ark, YOU AND ALL YOUR HOUSEHOLD, because I have seen that you are righteous before Me in this generation.

7 So ,NOAH ,WITH HIS SONS,HIS WIFE, AND HIS SONS' WIVES, went into the ark because of the waters of the flood



13 On the very same day NOAH AND NOAH'S SONS,SHEM,HAM, AND JAPHETH, AND NOAH'S WIFE, AND THE THREE WIVES OF HIS SONS' WITH THEM, ENTERED THE ARK—

14 they and every beast after its kind, all cattle after their kind, every creeping thing that creeps on the earth after its kind, and every bird after its kind, every bird of every sort. 15 And they went into the ark to Noah, two by two, OF ALL FLESH IN WHICH IS THE BREATH OF LIFE..

16 So THOSE THAT ENTERED,MALE AND FEMALE OF ALL FLESH , went in as God had commanded him; and the Lord shut him in.


21 And all flesh died that moved on the earth: birds and cattle and beasts and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth, and every man. 22

ALL IN WHOSE NOSTRILS WAS THE BREATH OF THE SPIRIT OF LIFE, all that was on the dry land, died. 23 So He destroyed all living things which were on the face of the ground: both man and cattle, creeping thing and bird of the air. They were destroyed from the earth.

Only Noah and those who were with him in the ark remained alive. 24 And the waters prevailed on the earth one hundred and fifty days.



15 Then God spoke to Noah, saying, 16 “Go out of the ark, YOU AND YOUR WIFE,AND YOUR SONS AND YOUR SONS' WIVES WITH YOU.

17 Bring out with you every living thing of all flesh that is with you: birds and cattle and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth, so that they may abound on the earth, and be fruitful and multiply on the earth.” 1

8 So NOAH WENT OUT,AND HIS SONS AND HIS WIFE AND HIS SONS' WIVES WITH HIM .


....................


Cowboy.....Notice how the breath of life is mentioned more than

once, and applies to all living things.....

also notice how the same 8 people are only mentioned... no

other people ever mentioned but them....


:heart::heart::heart:


Yes breath of life is mentioned here as well. I didn't say ALL the people that lived upon the Earth was on the Ark. That would have kind of beat the purpose of the flood.


17 Bring out with you every living thing of all flesh that is with you: birds and cattle and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth, so that they may abound on the earth, and be fruitful and multiply on the earth


Even this doesn't exclude other people other then Noah and his family.


Genesis 8:17


17Bring forth with thee every living thing that is with thee, of all flesh, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth; that they may breed abundantly in the earth, and be fruitful, and multiply upon the earth.


People would be included in "of all flesh". Because you know very well this is summarizing the different groups of "beings" on the ark, not naming them off specifically.