All Iran has to do to avoid conflict with the rest of the world is to give up on having their own centrifuges to enrich nuclear material to bomb grade.

They have been offered multiple times pre-enriched material as well
as having others re-process for them both much easier and cleaner than
pursing the work themselves. But they clearly want to have the ability
to enrich to bomb grade despite having signed international agreements
that they would not do this.

And they lie and conceal their nuclear bombmaking activities.

All they have to do is stop their nuclear bomb making activities.
If they continue to insist on trying to develop nuclear weapons then
they will certainly be stopped by force. They have known this all
along. I don't feel sorry for them. They have made their own choices.
I do feel sorry for the innocent citizens of Iran who have to live
under the thumb of their idiotic theocratic militant Islamic rulers.



Anyway this is what it will look like - Osiraq.

And they will admit it. Most don't want war, they enlist (or at least try) out of a sense of duty, pride, patriotism, and don't preach war out of respect for those who do make the cut!

They honor them!

There is no more draft....all volunteer..... you wish to serve or you don't!

Nobody in their right mind wants war unless they have nothing to lose, or a war is declared for national defense....then the draft is reinstated!

I never said I want war but I do realize it is needed. The hippie peace and love mentality has got to go. People want us dead because we are the "Great Satan" no matter what we do they will think that. If we pull our military bases out of the Middle East that will do NOTHING to help us and only hurt us. They will still want us dead and will still plan attacks against the US and US interists. The thought of all this Kumbyya $hit is nice but it's not reality and it's a dangerous thought process and the people who push that agenda are just as dangerous to the US as AQ or the Taliban.

Meh. Every government lies.

Its kinda like this, you have a refrigerator with food, soda, beer etc. would you like it if the guy across the street brought his family over and barged into your house and started helping themselves to what you have all the while telling you what you can and cannot do. Would you like that? You be pretty pissed off at the guy and his family across the street I bet.

Sorta like the US in Iraq?

Nah. Nobody is taking anyone's beers.



It is more like this. Your neighbor says that if you give him gasoline
for his tractor and fertilizer for his fields that he promises he will
never use them for making bombs and molotov cocktails to throw at you
and your friends.

However, after charitably giving them a truckload of gasoline and
a truckload of fertilizer, they mysteriously do not go into the
tractor or onto the fields. Instead, several groups of terrorists
bomb your restaurants and marketplace and brag about how they got
the gasoline and fertilizer from said neighbor!

Furthermore, there is undeniable evidence like photos which show
them taking the gasoline and ammonia fertilizer into a new building
they made and underground and making molotov cocktails and building
ammonia bombs.

Now, you tell them that if they don't stop building the bombs and
prove to everyone that they are not going to restart by having
verifiable inspections that you will be forced to destroy their
bomb making operation. But they refuse. So eventually everybody
gets together and destroys the bomb factory.

Here is the reality..

You have a very unstable government in Iraq that is being tested by the Sunni minority at the behest of the Saudis.

You have a rise of the Islamic parties in Turkey that will no doubt start chaos in the Kurdish part of Iraq.

Egypt will be ruled by Islamists and they will be no friend to anyone.

Assad is on the brink of being dragged down the streets of Damascus.

Saudi Arabia and UAE are buying more military weaponry than anyone ever has at one time..

Jordan is a mess. Yemen is the wild west..Pakistan is on the brink of collapse..

Iran is killing members of the opposition on a daily basis and is no position to do anything but pray they don't all get dragged down the middle of a Tehran street.

All we have to do is sit back, watch and allow them to sort themselves out..

If there is one thing on this earth that can unite these people it is another attack by a western power in this region..

If you moved in on my family with guns and bombs, I and my family would fight you too! If you tried to kill us because you declare a war on our beliefs, we'd fight you. If you keep us from getting items we need to survive (sanctions), we'd fight you!

Your're right about something needing to be done.....WE NEED TO GET THE FLOCK OUT OF THE M E!