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Mr. Conrad I am very well read and history is one of my favorite subjects I wonder why you even bother commenting at all your so far off target so often. The thing with Mr Con is ....nobody is as well read as he is so their viewpoint has no place in his mind. He is the master of put down but no solutions to problems....  |
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can you say FLAT?
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Mr. Conrad I am very well read and history is one of my favorite subjects I wonder why you even bother commenting at all your so far off target so often. The thing with Mr Con is ....nobody is as well read as he is so their viewpoint has no place in his mind. He is the master of put down but no solutions to problems....  Actually it just peeves me when People make statement that show they haven' an inkling what they talk about! Talking about the US being like the Soviet-Union under Stalin proves it! We are talking about Iran here... What is your solution?? Whatever is necessary,regardless how much the Progressives howl! And the answer to my Question??? |
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Mr. Conrad I am very well read and history is one of my favorite subjects I wonder why you even bother commenting at all your so far off target so often. The thing with Mr Con is ....nobody is as well read as he is so their viewpoint has no place in his mind. He is the master of put down but no solutions to problems.... Actually it just peeves me when People make statement that show they haven' an inkling what they talk about! Talking about the US being like the Soviet-Union under Stalin proves it! We are talking about Iran here... What is your solution?? Whatever is necessary,regardless how much the Progressives howl! And the answer to my Question???
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Flat,Flat,Flat!
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Flat,Flat,Flat! Take your time Con... Research some more and get back to me... |
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Edited by
s1owhand
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Wed 01/18/12 03:14 PM
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Is it fair for us to say who can and can't have nuclear weapons? And why? When we came out with this we didn't know it would come to this. I say stay out of there business. We could blow them away in a heart beat we have nothing to worry about. Unless all this bs is just for there oil. It is not only fair it is the only responsible thing to do. You do not permit terrorist groups or their supporters - those who are actively trying to kill as many innocent civilians as possible to get nuclear weapons. If you can help it. This is the issue. This is why it is the policy of so many countries is that Iranian development of nuclear weapons is unacceptable. If we learned anything from WWII it is to take threats of genocide and terrorism seriously. And we do. Iran can stop it simply by ceasing activities which could be used to develop nuclear weapons - otherwise many around the world including the US, our allies and most Arabic countries int the Middle East will likely destroy this capability by force before it can be used to kill large numbers of innocent people. If peaceful pressure fails as it has been failing then the military option will soon be the only option left. Simple really.  |
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Edited by
Bestinshow
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Wed 01/18/12 03:18 PM
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"Under the 1968 Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), Iran has the legal right to produce nuclear power for peaceful purposes. The United Nations International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) has found no evidence that Iran is developing a nuclear weapons program. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta recently said on CBS that Iran is not currently trying to build a nuclear weapon."
This is like watching lemmings jump off a cliff http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/01/18 |
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Just posted this on another thread and decided to post it here for those that advocate war.
Also I am still waiting on Cons answer.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntt3wy-L8Ok&feature=related |
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Is it fair for us to say who can and can't have nuclear weapons? And why? When we came out with this we didn't know it would come to this. I say stay out of there business. We could blow them away in a heart beat we have nothing to worry about. Unless all this bs is just for there oil. It is not only fair it is the only responsible thing to do. You do not permit terrorist groups or their supporters - those who are actively trying to kill as many innocent civilians as possible to get nuclear weapons. If you can help it. This is the issue. This is why it is the policy of so many countries is that Iranian development of nuclear weapons is unacceptable. If we learned anything from WWII it is to take threats of genocide and terrorism seriously. And we do. Iran can stop it simply by ceasing activities which could be used to develop nuclear weapons - otherwise many around the world including the US, our allies and most Arabic countries int the Middle East will likely destroy this capability by force before it can be used to kill large numbers of innocent people. If peaceful pressure fails as it has been failing then the military option will soon be the only option left. Simple really. |
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If we do anything in Iran it will only be limited targeting of their nuclear facilities to destroy them. There will likely be few if any boots on the ground and no need for troops to be deployed there for any length of time or for any significant duty. Only a rube can think Iran wont retaliate and not many are convinced after the debacle in Iraq that Iran is doing anything its not supposed to. I think cooler heads will prevail because an attack on Iran will have huge economic consequences and create far more suffering. Havent we all suffered enough with all these wars and we have gained NOTHING! Except make fools of ourselves, our country and its people. Oh and the one percenters got a little richer. Nothing happened when Israel knocked out the reactor in Iraq and in Syria. Iran wont do crap because they are pathetic and weak. Thats seems to be the result of all this bluster. Nothing good has come from any of these wars nothing good at all, well unless your a one percenter. United States is sitting on so much Oil,they could tell all those Mullahs,Sheiks etc to go and suck Oil and pound Sand! It staggers the Imagination why the USofA isn't drilling their Own Oil! 
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Edited by
carold
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Wed 01/18/12 03:40 PM
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Maybe if we didnt stick our noses in other countries and topple elected governments as in the case in Iran and the Shaw they wouldnt hate us so much. Or maybe if we didnt send drones to spy on them or invade other countries for BS they wouldnt hate us so much. Or the grandest of them all if maybe we didnt allow Israel to build and stockpile nuclear weapons we wouldnt look so totaly absurd in the eyes of the rest of the world. Are we a nation that abides by treaties or just a big bully nation ? If a person is objective it seems we will play nice with any dictator or form of government as long as they respect our economic interests, that is the interests of the 1%. If you do not well you will not be able to do anything right and our lousy corperate media will lead the charge to demonize said government and rile up we stupid americans for yet another unjust war. |
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Under the 1968 Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), Iran has the legal right to produce nuclear power for peaceful purposes. Iran is in violation of the NPT because they are not developing nuclear power for peaceful purposes. They do not need centrifuge cascades for that. Iran does not need to enrich particularly to higher bomb grade concentrations and they don't need the energy either. Iran has secretly while lying to the IAEA worked to develop nuclear arms technology and this is why they are in violation as documented by the IAEA last November. =-=-=-= On Nov. 10, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) issued a report charging Iran with violating its obligations under the nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty. In particular, the IAEA said that Tehran had been conducting experiments with imported nuclear material without informing the agency. The report also revealed that Iran had carried out a variety of clandestine nuclear activities for more than two decades. In doing so, it had deceived the agency on numerous occasions by concealing facilities and providing the IAEA with incomplete and false information. A discussion of the IAEA’s revelations follows. http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2003_12/IAEAreport 
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Under the 1968 Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), Iran has the legal right to produce nuclear power for peaceful purposes. Iran is in violation of the NPT because they are not developing nuclear power for peaceful purposes. They do not need centrifuge cascades for that. Iran does not need to enrich particularly to higher bomb grade concentrations and they don't need the energy either. Iran has secretly while lying to the IAEA worked to develop nuclear arms technology and this is why they are in violation as documented by the IAEA last November. =-=-=-= On Nov. 10, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) issued a report charging Iran with violating its obligations under the nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty. In particular, the IAEA said that Tehran had been conducting experiments with imported nuclear material without informing the agency. The report also revealed that Iran had carried out a variety of clandestine nuclear activities for more than two decades. In doing so, it had deceived the agency on numerous occasions by concealing facilities and providing the IAEA with incomplete and false information. A discussion of the IAEA’s revelations follows. http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2003_12/IAEAreport Iran will never do anything with it because 45% of their revenue comes from the sale of oil. ' If I were president of Iran and saw what the US did to Iraq a one time ally I would be negligent in not being able to defend my people from such horror. Lets hope sanity prevails |
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Edited by
s1owhand
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Wed 01/18/12 05:23 PM
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Under the 1968 Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), Iran has the legal right to produce nuclear power for peaceful purposes. Iran is in violation of the NPT because they are not developing nuclear power for peaceful purposes. They do not need centrifuge cascades for that. Iran does not need to enrich particularly to higher bomb grade concentrations and they don't need the energy either. Iran has secretly while lying to the IAEA worked to develop nuclear arms technology and this is why they are in violation as documented by the IAEA last November. =-=-=-= On Nov. 10, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) issued a report charging Iran with violating its obligations under the nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty. In particular, the IAEA said that Tehran had been conducting experiments with imported nuclear material without informing the agency. The report also revealed that Iran had carried out a variety of clandestine nuclear activities for more than two decades. In doing so, it had deceived the agency on numerous occasions by concealing facilities and providing the IAEA with incomplete and false information. A discussion of the IAEA’s revelations follows. http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2003_12/IAEAreport Iran will never do anything with it because 45% of their revenue comes from the sale of oil. ' If I were president of Iran and saw what the US did to Iraq a one time ally I would be negligent in not being able to defend my people from such horror. Lets hope sanity prevails http://www.cfr.org/iran/state-sponsors-iran/p9362#p2 In March 2006, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said, "Iran has been the country that has been in many ways a kind of central banker for terrorism in important regions like Lebanon through Hezbollah in the Middle East, in the Palestinian Territories, and we have deep concerns about what Iran is doing in the south of Iraq." For these reasons, in October 2007 the United States added Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) to its list of foreign terrorist organizations, and has continued to link economic sanctions to alleged support for militants. In June 2010, the UN Security Council approved a fourth round of sanctions, expanding on its list of targeted Iranian entities--including members of the IRGC. Former U.S. Director of National Intelligence Michael McConnell told CFR.org in June 2007 there is "overwhelming evidence" that Iran supports terrorists in Iraq and "compelling" evidence that it does the same in Afghanistan. Iran has repeatedly denied involvement in attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan, though in October 2008, a top Iranian military commander did acknowledge Iran supplies weapons to "liberation armies" (AP) in the Middle East. Western intelligence officials insist Iran's malfeasance is widespread. According to the State Department's 2010 Country Reports on Terrorism, the IRGC, and more specifically the elite Quds Force, remains Iran's "primary mechanism for cultivating and supporting terrorists abroad." An unclassified Defense Department report on Iran's military power (PDF) from April 2010 made similar claims. And according to declassified intelligence reports released by the Combating Terrorism Center at West Point in October 2008, Iranian support to militants in Iraq has included "paramilitary training, weapons, and equipment" (PDF). Similar meddling is believed to be ongoing in Afghanistan. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen, speaking with journalists in March 2010 in Kabul, said Iran was supplying weapons to fighters in southern Afghanistan. The U.S. government first listed Iran as a terrorist sponsor in January 1984. Among Iran's alleged activities have been the following: - Observers say Iran had prior knowledge of Hezbollah attacks, such as the 1988 kidnapping and murder of Colonel William Higgins, a U.S. Marine involved in a UN observer mission in Lebanon, and the 1992 and 1994 bombings of Jewish cultural institutions in Argentina. - Iran still has a price on the head of the Indian-born British novelist Salman Rushdie for what Iranian leaders call blasphemous writings about Islam in his 1989 novel The Satanic Verses. - U.S. officials say Iran supported the group behind the 1996 truck bombing of Khobar Towers, a U.S. military residence in Saudi Arabia, which killed nineteen U.S. servicemen. - Military officials say numerous attacks since 2001 on U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan, and coalition forces in Iraq, have been attributed to Iranian-made weapons. - A set of classified documents leaked by the website WikiLeaks.org in July 2010 reports extensive collaboration between Iran and the Taliban, Afghan warlords, and al-Qaeda, but all the claims have not been corroborated (Guardian). - Iran has also been blamed for attacks in Balochistan in Pakistan. - In April 2011, the United States and the European Union accused the Quds Force of providing equipment and support to help the Syrian regime suppress revolts in Syria. - In October 2011, Washington accused the Quds Force of plotting to assassinate the Saudi ambassador (NYT) to the United States, and plotting to bomb the Israeli Embassy in Washington and the Saudi and Israeli Embassies in Argentina. |
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Lets say the US military bombs the facilities cause everyone in the world knows the US will be the ones doing it.After the dust settles and the dead bodies if any remain are removed.Who is gonna go in Iran to be sure the US got it all and there isn't anymore facilities?US recon and land troops?Of course you're gonna have support from other countries when they know they aren't the ones that are gonna do the bombing. I'mpretty sure Israel will be the one to do it. They have done it in the past in multiple countries. |
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Is it fair for us to say who can and can't have nuclear weapons? And why? When we came out with this we didn't know it would come to this. I say stay out of there business. We could blow them away in a heart beat we have nothing to worry about. Unless all this bs is just for there oil. It is not only fair it is the only responsible thing to do. You do not permit terrorist groups or their supporters - those who are actively trying to kill as many innocent civilians as possible to get nuclear weapons. If you can help it. This is the issue. This is why it is the policy of so many countries is that Iranian development of nuclear weapons is unacceptable. If we learned anything from WWII it is to take threats of genocide and terrorism seriously. And we do. Iran can stop it simply by ceasing activities which could be used to develop nuclear weapons - otherwise many around the world including the US, our allies and most Arabic countries int the Middle East will likely destroy this capability by force before it can be used to kill large numbers of innocent people. If peaceful pressure fails as it has been failing then the military option will soon be the only option left. Simple really. But Iran is run by a terrorist group and is one of the largest sponsors of terrorism in the world. |
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Keep the personal posts off of the forums. Keep the debate on the topic and NOT the poster.
Kim |
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Is it fair for us to say who can and can't have nuclear weapons? And why? When we came out with this we didn't know it would come to this. I say stay out of there business. We could blow them away in a heart beat we have nothing to worry about. Unless all this bs is just for there oil. It is not only fair it is the only responsible thing to do. You do not permit terrorist groups or their supporters - those who are actively trying to kill as many innocent civilians as possible to get nuclear weapons. If you can help it. This is the issue. This is why it is the policy of so many countries is that Iranian development of nuclear weapons is unacceptable. If we learned anything from WWII it is to take threats of genocide and terrorism seriously. And we do. Iran can stop it simply by ceasing activities which could be used to develop nuclear weapons - otherwise many around the world including the US, our allies and most Arabic countries int the Middle East will likely destroy this capability by force before it can be used to kill large numbers of innocent people. If peaceful pressure fails as it has been failing then the military option will soon be the only option left. Simple really. But Iran is run by a terrorist group and is one of the largest sponsors of terrorism in the world. By whose definition? |
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Is it fair for us to say who can and can't have nuclear weapons? And why? When we came out with this we didn't know it would come to this. I say stay out of there business. We could blow them away in a heart beat we have nothing to worry about. Unless all this bs is just for there oil. It is not only fair it is the only responsible thing to do. You do not permit terrorist groups or their supporters - those who are actively trying to kill as many innocent civilians as possible to get nuclear weapons. If you can help it. This is the issue. This is why it is the policy of so many countries is that Iranian development of nuclear weapons is unacceptable. If we learned anything from WWII it is to take threats of genocide and terrorism seriously. And we do. Iran can stop it simply by ceasing activities which could be used to develop nuclear weapons - otherwise many around the world including the US, our allies and most Arabic countries int the Middle East will likely destroy this capability by force before it can be used to kill large numbers of innocent people. If peaceful pressure fails as it has been failing then the military option will soon be the only option left. Simple really. But Iran is run by a terrorist group and is one of the largest sponsors of terrorism in the world. By whose definition? The majority the the countries world wide. |
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