Topic: The Cost of Israel to Americans
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Thu 12/01/11 01:53 PM



Israel is believed to possess the largest and most sophisticated arsenal outside of the five declared nuclear powers. Israel has never admitted possessing nuclear weapons, but abundant information is available showing that the capability exists.

http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Israel/Isrhist.html

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/

http://www.wisconsinproject.org/countries/israel/nuke.html

Today, Israel is the world's sixth most powerful nuclear state, with a stockpile of more than 100 nuclear weapons and with the components and ability to build atomic, neutron and hydrogen bombs. Israel's nuclear program began and still operates under tight secrecy, but in the 1980s a series of revelations showed the crucial role played by foreign suppliers.


If that is true, and it is a big IF - Israel's never had intentions to world domination as has Islamic states including Iran and I can back that up. Radical Islam as I have said many times is the greatest threat to world peace.



It is not a big If.

I am 99.99% certain that Israel is well equipped with nuclear weapons. I see no reason to suspect otherwise.

Not all Islam is "radical." But if they had nuclear weapons, they would probably use them given that they are fighting with Israel and are massively out gunned and out maneuvered.

I think all of the crazy zealots who are following an Abrahamic religion would like to "take over the world" and convert everyone to their beliefs. They have been doing it for hundreds of years.

The core of all world conflict always seems to be grounded in religion and the mythical Bible, including the silly idea that Jews are God's chosen people.

I just don't believe any of the Bible has any truth to it whatsoever.






Pakistan has Nukes and it is about as unstable as they come!Turkey has access to about seventyfive Nukes from NATO,and Turkey is quickly sliding into the Islamist Morass!

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Thu 12/01/11 01:58 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 12/01/11 02:02 PM
Israel is widely believed to possess weapons of mass destruction, and to be one of four nuclear-armed countries not recognized as a Nuclear Weapons State by the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).

.[1] The US Congress Office of Technology Assessment has recorded Israel as a country generally reported as having undeclared chemical warfare capabilities, and an offensive biological warfare program.

[2] Officially Israel neither confirms nor denies possessing nuclear weapons.

(But one of the things they do best is LIE)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

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Thu 12/01/11 02:02 PM



Israel is believed to possess the largest and most sophisticated arsenal outside of the five declared nuclear powers. Israel has never admitted possessing nuclear weapons, but abundant information is available showing that the capability exists.

http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Israel/Isrhist.html

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/

http://www.wisconsinproject.org/countries/israel/nuke.html

Today, Israel is the world's sixth most powerful nuclear state, with a stockpile of more than 100 nuclear weapons and with the components and ability to build atomic, neutron and hydrogen bombs. Israel's nuclear program began and still operates under tight secrecy, but in the 1980s a series of revelations showed the crucial role played by foreign suppliers.


If that is true, and it is a big IF - Israel's never had intentions to world domination as has Islamic states including Iran and I can back that up. Radical Islam as I have said many times is the greatest threat to world peace.



It is not a big If.

I am 99.99% certain that Israel is well equipped with nuclear weapons. I see no reason to suspect otherwise.

Not all Islam is "radical." But if they had nuclear weapons, they would probably use them given that they are fighting with Israel and are massively out gunned and out maneuvered.

I think all of the crazy zealots who are following an Abrahamic religion would like to "take over the world" and convert everyone to their beliefs. They have been doing it for hundreds of years.

The core of all world conflict always seems to be grounded in religion and the mythical Bible, including the silly idea that Jews are God's chosen people.

I just don't believe any of the Bible has any truth to it whatsoever.








Believe me Israel does NOT want to take over the world. The fact that you think that and taken into account your previous posts makes mme think you worry unnecessarily to put it mildly. Whether you yourself believe in the Bible is neither here nor there with me. Plenty don't believe. But your views on Israel are totally misguided.

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Thu 12/01/11 02:03 PM




Israel is believed to possess the largest and most sophisticated arsenal outside of the five declared nuclear powers. Israel has never admitted possessing nuclear weapons, but abundant information is available showing that the capability exists.

http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Israel/Isrhist.html

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/

http://www.wisconsinproject.org/countries/israel/nuke.html

Today, Israel is the world's sixth most powerful nuclear state, with a stockpile of more than 100 nuclear weapons and with the components and ability to build atomic, neutron and hydrogen bombs. Israel's nuclear program began and still operates under tight secrecy, but in the 1980s a series of revelations showed the crucial role played by foreign suppliers.


If that is true, and it is a big IF - Israel's never had intentions to world domination as has Islamic states including Iran and I can back that up. Radical Islam as I have said many times is the greatest threat to world peace.



It is not a big If.

I am 99.99% certain that Israel is well equipped with nuclear weapons. I see no reason to suspect otherwise.

Not all Islam is "radical." But if they had nuclear weapons, they would probably use them given that they are fighting with Israel and are massively out gunned and out maneuvered.

I think all of the crazy zealots who are following an Abrahamic religion would like to "take over the world" and convert everyone to their beliefs. They have been doing it for hundreds of years.

The core of all world conflict always seems to be grounded in religion and the mythical Bible, including the silly idea that Jews are God's chosen people.

I just don't believe any of the Bible has any truth to it whatsoever.






Pakistan has Nukes and it is about as unstable as they come!Turkey has access to about seventyfive Nukes from NATO,and Turkey is quickly sliding into the Islamist Morass!


Well if you think they have Nukes, then it is silly to say that Israel does not have them.


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Thu 12/01/11 02:05 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 12/01/11 02:08 PM




Israel is believed to possess the largest and most sophisticated arsenal outside of the five declared nuclear powers. Israel has never admitted possessing nuclear weapons, but abundant information is available showing that the capability exists.

http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Israel/Isrhist.html

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/

http://www.wisconsinproject.org/countries/israel/nuke.html

Today, Israel is the world's sixth most powerful nuclear state, with a stockpile of more than 100 nuclear weapons and with the components and ability to build atomic, neutron and hydrogen bombs. Israel's nuclear program began and still operates under tight secrecy, but in the 1980s a series of revelations showed the crucial role played by foreign suppliers.


If that is true, and it is a big IF - Israel's never had intentions to world domination as has Islamic states including Iran and I can back that up. Radical Islam as I have said many times is the greatest threat to world peace.



It is not a big If.

I am 99.99% certain that Israel is well equipped with nuclear weapons. I see no reason to suspect otherwise.

Not all Islam is "radical." But if they had nuclear weapons, they would probably use them given that they are fighting with Israel and are massively out gunned and out maneuvered.

I think all of the crazy zealots who are following an Abrahamic religion would like to "take over the world" and convert everyone to their beliefs. They have been doing it for hundreds of years.

The core of all world conflict always seems to be grounded in religion and the mythical Bible, including the silly idea that Jews are God's chosen people.

I just don't believe any of the Bible has any truth to it whatsoever.








Believe me Israel does NOT want to take over the world. The fact that you think that and taken into account your previous posts makes mme think you worry unnecessarily to put it mildly. Whether you yourself believe in the Bible is neither here nor there with me. Plenty don't believe. But your views on Israel are totally misguided.


I'm not worried for myself. I'm 62 years old and I will probably be dead by the time the New World Order is in total control.

I do believe in reincarnation, but I'm not coming back this time. laugh laugh

Its not just Israel. It is THE BRITISH, and the CROWN.

It is THE COMPANY.

There is a plan for a one world government. The powerful Elite of the world are just working out the details.


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Thu 12/01/11 02:17 PM

S1owhand,

I have told you that I appose political movement called Zionism and that Zionism does NOT represent all Jews and yet you continue to completely ignore these statements and just rattle off a bunch of canned Zionist propaganda.

You have argued that "Jews" are not a "race" and yet now you are lumping all Jews together as a race and comparing them to Blacks.

Everyone knows that there are Jews with completely different genetic and ethnic backgrounds and they even discriminate against each other. Guess what? They even kill each other!!

They are no different than anyone else. No surprize. There are both good and evil Jews.

There are clearly anti-Zionist religious Jews and you refuse to listen or acknowledge that fact. There are even Jewish citizens living in Israel who are aware that their leadership and their government is corrupt, even evil. Jews for Jesus in Israel are treated as second class citizens.

It is stupid to attempt to portray all Jews as good or bad, but that is what you are trying to suggest by lumping them all together.

Jews, like anyone else, are individuals. Some good, some bad just like the rest of us. I would hate the world to judge all Americans because of our own corrupt leaders.

Jews are decent good people and and yet there are vicious Zionists criminals who claim to be Jews and they are the worst enemy of the Jews because they try to claim that they are "innocent poor persecuted Jews" who are only defending themselves and only occupying Israel because they need a "safe haven" to live. Yet their "safe" place is surrounded by their enemies which they have created themselves by their own aggressive violent actions of conquest and war.

And they have people like you who continue to aid them in blurring the distinction between a corrupt criminal Zionist movement and all other Jewish people of the world. You are not doing the Jewish people any favors.

Millions of Jews live in America and people are not out there trying to kill them. Yet the Jews in Israel are screaming and crying that everyone around them wants to annihilate them.

I am through reading or responding to your posts. You are close to accusing me of being anti-Semitic and nothing could be further from the truth.


About the the Jews in America...here is a recent exchange in which
a woman from the Muslim Student Association at the University of
California says explicitly that she agrees with the head of
Hezbollah - Narallah - that she wishes all Jews including American
Jews would move to Israel so that they could all be easily
exterminated without having to hunt them down from all over the
world.

This is a very recent comment. Yes, the Jews here in the US as well
as Jews everywhere - religious or not so religious have a very real
reason to be concerned whether they are Zionists or not!

This was May of 2010 http://youtu.be/8fSvyv0urTE

Your views are clearly antisemitic! You believe in the false
Protocols of the Elders of Zion (one of the worst antisemitic
works ever published and used as propaganda by the Nazis).

This document blames all sorts of societal ills on a fake Jewish
conspiracy theory which was proven to be stolen from fictional
tales almost 100 years ago! It is the epitome of antisemitism!

laugh

End of that story.

Not surprising at all that you are also anti-Zionist and try to
deny the historical, religious and cultural ties of the Jews to
their ancient homeland in light of your obviously antisemitic
views.

I just point it out so that others who may not be as familiar
with the truth do not get suckered into this disgusting lie which
was used as justification of the Third Reich to murder millions
of innocent people.

Optomistic69's photo
Thu 12/01/11 02:19 PM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Thu 12/01/11 02:21 PM





Israel is believed to possess the largest and most sophisticated arsenal outside of the five declared nuclear powers. Israel has never admitted possessing nuclear weapons, but abundant information is available showing that the capability exists.

http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Israel/Isrhist.html

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/

http://www.wisconsinproject.org/countries/israel/nuke.html

Today, Israel is the world's sixth most powerful nuclear state, with a stockpile of more than 100 nuclear weapons and with the components and ability to build atomic, neutron and hydrogen bombs. Israel's nuclear program began and still operates under tight secrecy, but in the 1980s a series of revelations showed the crucial role played by foreign suppliers.


If that is true, and it is a big IF - Israel's never had intentions to world domination as has Islamic states including Iran and I can back that up. Radical Islam as I have said many times is the greatest threat to world peace.



It is not a big If.

I am 99.99% certain that Israel is well equipped with nuclear weapons. I see no reason to suspect otherwise.

Not all Islam is "radical." But if they had nuclear weapons, they would probably use them given that they are fighting with Israel and are massively out gunned and out maneuvered.

I think all of the crazy zealots who are following an Abrahamic religion would like to "take over the world" and convert everyone to their beliefs. They have been doing it for hundreds of years.

The core of all world conflict always seems to be grounded in religion and the mythical Bible, including the silly idea that Jews are God's chosen people.

I just don't believe any of the Bible has any truth to it whatsoever.








Believe me Israel does NOT want to take over the world. The fact that you think that and taken into account your previous posts makes mme think you worry unnecessarily to put it mildly. Whether you yourself believe in the Bible is neither here nor there with me. Plenty don't believe. But your views on Israel are totally misguided.


I'm not worried for myself. I'm 62 years old and I will probably be dead by the time the New World Order is in total control.

I do believe in reincarnation, but I'm not coming back this time. laugh laugh

Its not just Israel. It is THE BRITISH, and the CROWN.

It is THE COMPANY.

There is a plan for a one world government. The powerful Elite of the world are just working out the details.





Not too sure about your timescale re NWO

Wesley Clarke said America was going to take out seven countries in five years...that was in 2007.

Iran was the last country to taken out.?????

Britian has withdrawn its embassy staff from Tehran????

You could be around for another 30 years.

I am coming back as a womandrinker

In my rush to Edit I somehow viewed Conrads Profileoops

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Thu 12/01/11 02:23 PM
Same old story. ohwell noway asleep asleep asleep asleep asleep


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Thu 12/01/11 02:26 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 12/01/11 02:30 PM






Israel is believed to possess the largest and most sophisticated arsenal outside of the five declared nuclear powers. Israel has never admitted possessing nuclear weapons, but abundant information is available showing that the capability exists.

http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Israel/Isrhist.html

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/

http://www.wisconsinproject.org/countries/israel/nuke.html

Today, Israel is the world's sixth most powerful nuclear state, with a stockpile of more than 100 nuclear weapons and with the components and ability to build atomic, neutron and hydrogen bombs. Israel's nuclear program began and still operates under tight secrecy, but in the 1980s a series of revelations showed the crucial role played by foreign suppliers.


If that is true, and it is a big IF - Israel's never had intentions to world domination as has Islamic states including Iran and I can back that up. Radical Islam as I have said many times is the greatest threat to world peace.



It is not a big If.

I am 99.99% certain that Israel is well equipped with nuclear weapons. I see no reason to suspect otherwise.

Not all Islam is "radical." But if they had nuclear weapons, they would probably use them given that they are fighting with Israel and are massively out gunned and out maneuvered.

I think all of the crazy zealots who are following an Abrahamic religion would like to "take over the world" and convert everyone to their beliefs. They have been doing it for hundreds of years.

The core of all world conflict always seems to be grounded in religion and the mythical Bible, including the silly idea that Jews are God's chosen people.

I just don't believe any of the Bible has any truth to it whatsoever.








Believe me Israel does NOT want to take over the world. The fact that you think that and taken into account your previous posts makes mme think you worry unnecessarily to put it mildly. Whether you yourself believe in the Bible is neither here nor there with me. Plenty don't believe. But your views on Israel are totally misguided.


I'm not worried for myself. I'm 62 years old and I will probably be dead by the time the New World Order is in total control.

I do believe in reincarnation, but I'm not coming back this time. laugh laugh

Its not just Israel. It is THE BRITISH, and the CROWN.

It is THE COMPANY.

There is a plan for a one world government. The powerful Elite of the world are just working out the details.





Not too sure about your timescale re NWO

Wesley Clarke said America was going to take out seven countries in five years...that was in 2007.

Iran was the last country to taken out.?????

Britian has withdrawn its embassy staff from Tehran????

You could be around for another 30 years.

I am coming back as a womandrinker

In my rush to Edit I somehow viewed Conrads Profileoops



I'm not coming back.

Globalization may be a reality before we know it.

In a strange way I can understand the desire for a one world government. I just hope the new king of the world is a wise and kind ruler.

But I have my doubts.

And if you look at the mural on the wall at the Denver Airport, its pretty scary.


http://web.mac.com/len15/WAR_on_We_The_People/Denver_Airport_Murals_Explained.html




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Thu 12/01/11 02:35 PM



Its not just Israel. It is THE BRITISH, and the CROWN.

It is THE COMPANY.

There is a plan for a one world government. The powerful Elite of the world are just working out the details.




this is off topic but I couldn't help notice this comment ... JB, you are seriously worried about Britain?? And more than that you're scared of the British royalty??? Have you seen the British royalty????

I personally have nothing against the royal family, british people are sentimental that way and they do help out with the tourist industry but believe me world domination is NOT something on their or our agenda.

Britain tried world domination once, it didn't work out too well for us... didn't work out so well for most f the world either ... sorry world.

back to topic

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Thu 12/01/11 02:49 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 12/01/11 02:52 PM




Its not just Israel. It is THE BRITISH, and the CROWN.

It is THE COMPANY.

There is a plan for a one world government. The powerful Elite of the world are just working out the details.




this is off topic but I couldn't help notice this comment ... JB, you are seriously worried about Britain?? And more than that you're scared of the British royalty??? Have you seen the British royalty????

I personally have nothing against the royal family, british people are sentimental that way and they do help out with the tourist industry but believe me world domination is NOT something on their or our agenda.

Britain tried world domination once, it didn't work out too well for us... didn't work out so well for most f the world either ... sorry world.

back to topic


I am not worried about the British people or the Jewish people or the Muslim people.

The people are NOT the problem.

It is the few Elite who have and control all of the money who are the problem.

Start with the Rothschild empire.

Its not the "governments" or the "people" who are the problem.

It is not the politicians or the dictators. It is the people who pull their strings.

It is the filthy rich criminal element.

Its not even the corporations.

Its THE COMPANY.

The COMPANY is not even a legal entity. It is outside all entities, outside all corporations, and outside all governments.

It is above the laws.

It exists.











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Fri 12/02/11 03:30 AM
Edited by s1owhand on Fri 12/02/11 03:31 AM





Its not just Israel. It is THE BRITISH, and the CROWN.

It is THE COMPANY.

There is a plan for a one world government. The powerful Elite of the world are just working out the details.




this is off topic but I couldn't help notice this comment ... JB, you are seriously worried about Britain?? And more than that you're scared of the British royalty??? Have you seen the British royalty????

I personally have nothing against the royal family, british people are sentimental that way and they do help out with the tourist industry but believe me world domination is NOT something on their or our agenda.

Britain tried world domination once, it didn't work out too well for us... didn't work out so well for most f the world either ... sorry world.

back to topic


I am not worried about the British people or the Jewish people or the Muslim people.

The people are NOT the problem.

It is the few Elite who have and control all of the money who are the problem.

Start with the Rothschild empire.

Its not the "governments" or the "people" who are the problem.

It is not the politicians or the dictators. It is the people who pull their strings.

It is the filthy rich criminal element.

Its not even the corporations.

Its THE COMPANY.

The COMPANY is not even a legal entity. It is outside all entities, outside all corporations, and outside all governments.

It is above the laws.

It exists.


OK we understand paranoia about the wealthy elite. Just as long
as you acknowledge this has nothing to do with Zionism, Israel or
the Jews.

laugh

For example, if you are worried about rich people and their
excessive influence then here is the list of the wealthiest people
in the world and they aren't Zionists, Israelis, Rothschilds or
Jews. You should be more concerned by Sheiks and American
industrialists in that case. But you seem to be more preoccupied
with what you call Zionists in Israel who are not on the list.

Forbes List of World's Richest People

Rank Name Net Worth Age Source Citizenship
1 Carlos Slim Helu $74 B 71 telecom Mexico
2 Bill Gates $56 B 56 Microsoft United States
3 Warren Buffett $50 B 81 Berkshire Hathaway United States
4 Bernard Arnault $41 B 62 LVMH France
5 Larry Ellison $39.5 B 67 Oracle United States
6 Lakshmi Mittal $31.1 B 61 Steel India
7 Amancio Ortega $31 B 75 Zara Spain
8 Eike Batista $30 B 55 mining, oil Brazil
9 Mukesh Ambani $27 B 54 oil & gas India
10 Christy Walton $26.5 B 56 Walmart United States

etc.

http://www.forbes.com/wealth/billionaires


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Fri 12/02/11 03:38 AM





Its not just Israel. It is THE BRITISH, and the CROWN.

It is THE COMPANY.

There is a plan for a one world government. The powerful Elite of the world are just working out the details.




this is off topic but I couldn't help notice this comment ... JB, you are seriously worried about Britain?? And more than that you're scared of the British royalty??? Have you seen the British royalty????

I personally have nothing against the royal family, british people are sentimental that way and they do help out with the tourist industry but believe me world domination is NOT something on their or our agenda.

Britain tried world domination once, it didn't work out too well for us... didn't work out so well for most f the world either ... sorry world.

back to topic


I am not worried about the British people or the Jewish people or the Muslim people.

The people are NOT the problem.

It is the few Elite who have and control all of the money who are the problem.

Start with the Rothschild empire.

Its not the "governments" or the "people" who are the problem.

It is not the politicians or the dictators. It is the people who pull their strings.

It is the filthy rich criminal element.

Its not even the corporations.

Its THE COMPANY.

The COMPANY is not even a legal entity. It is outside all entities, outside all corporations, and outside all governments.

It is above the laws.

It exists.











WHERE?

s1owhand's photo
Fri 12/02/11 03:45 AM
Edited by s1owhand on Fri 12/02/11 03:47 AM
In the mind of the paranoid is the obvious answer.

laugh

But if you are talking geography from the list of the top ten...

Mexico, US, France, India, Spain and Brazil apparently
but mostly US, Mexico and India

laugh

whoa

Optomistic69's photo
Fri 12/02/11 03:49 AM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Fri 12/02/11 03:56 AM
All Around you

A loose affiliation of millionaires and billionaires...Baby


Questioning the Questioner

Question the Powers that Rule you


s1owhand's photo
Fri 12/02/11 04:00 AM

All Around you

A loose affiliation of millionaires and billionaires...Baby


Questioning the Questioner

Question the Powers that Rule you


laugh

But obviously Carlos Slim, Gates and Buffett are the top dawgs!
Not Zionists, Israelis or all the Juice!

laugh

WOOF!

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 12/02/11 04:07 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Fri 12/02/11 04:11 AM

All Around you

A loose affiliation of millionaires and billionaires...Baby


Questioning the Questioner

Question the Powers that Rule you


Prove it!

Funny how the tone changes!

Now everyone who has a hundred Bucks more than me is most likely in that loose Conspiracy!noway huh scared shocked

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Fri 12/02/11 04:23 AM

Our uniquely massive support for Israel has cost trillions of dollars and multitudes of lives. It has diminished our moral standing in the world, lessened our domestic freedoms, and exposed us to unnecessary and growing peril.

The majority of Americans – as well as our diplomatic and military experts – oppose this unique relationship. Yet, the lobby for Israel continues to foment policies that are disastrous for our nation and tragic for the region.

If we are to have Middle East policies that serve the national interest, that represent the highest values of our founders and our citizens, and that work to sustain a nation of honor, decency, security, and prosperity, then it is essential that all Americans become active and informed. Below are the facts:



American taxpayers give Israel over $8 million per day


(See report from Congressional Research Service of the Library of Congress):


This to a nation, at its peak, of 7.4 million people – smaller than New Jersey. Israel has received more American money than any other nation on earth. It is more than we give to all the starving countries of Africa put together.

From 1950-53 Israel’s financial influx from the U.S. was one billion dollars; Israel at that time had 1.6 million inhabitants

In the past ten years, American taxpayers have given Israel approximately $200,000 per family of five.

This costs us even more:

US aid to Israel is given in a lump sum at the beginning of the fiscal year.
Since the US is operating at a deficit, this means that we borrow the money, give it to Israel, and then pay interest on it long after it is gone.

Israel, on the other hand, makes interest from it. Congress has mandated that Israel’s aid be immediately deposited to an interest bearing account with the Federal Reserve Bank.


UNEMPLOYED FOR UNEMPLOYMENT CHECKS
Additional financial costs: $3 trillion

About $1.5 billion to Egypt and $843 million to Jordan is dispensed annually under arrangements made to induce these countries’ friendly relations with Israel.
Billions of dollars have been lost to U.S. manufacturers because of the Arab boycott engendered by Israeli actions.
Enormous and continuing costs to U.S. consumers of petroleum, which surged to such heights that it set off a world-wide recession during the Arab oil boycott imposed in reaction to U.S. support of Israel in the 1973 war.
There are a multitude of such costs.

A report by an economist commissioned by the Army War College in 2003 to analyze the situation in full found that the total cost to Americans over Israel’s 60+ years has been $3 trillion.

Americans have a higher unemployment rate than Israel and 10 million families are reportedly sliding into foreclosure; yet Americans continue to give tax money to Israel.


US CASKETS RETURNING FROM IRAQ
On top of this are the costs of the Iraq war: hundreds of thousands of lives & over $3 trillion

The costs of the the Iraq war, which was promoted by Israel partisans, are almost incalculable and are still growing.

The war added trillions of dollars to the federal debt, and this doesn’t include future health care and disability payments for veterans.

Economists report that the global financial crisis was due, at least in part, to the Iraq war.

The same parties are pushing for a similar attack on Iran.

The Lobby for Israel overrules US experts


U.S. policies in the Middle East rarely reflect U.S. interests and values.

Instead, over the objections of a multitude of State Department and Pentagon analysts, they are largely driven by a variety of factors:

1. Special-interest lobbying. Fortune Magazine rates one of the many lobby organizations working on behalf of Israel, AIPAC, as the second most powerful lobby in Washington. Many analysts consider the pro-Israel interest group the most powerful lobby in our nation.


Senator William J. Fulbright aimed to bring a little more knowledge, a little more reason, and a little more compassion into world affairs and thereby increase the chance that nations will learn at last to live in peace and friendship — (wiki)
By the late 1960s Senator William Fulbright found that U.S. aid to Israel was being secretly funneled back to lobbyists in the U.S., who would use it to lobby for still more U.S. money to Israel.

The U.S. justice department and other agencies have often attempted to enforce U.S. laws

2. Israel partisans in the U.S. government and media: The efforts of a growing number of individuals with close ties to Israel (some are neoconservatives, others are neoliberals) who often hold key positions in U.S. administrations, the State Department, Pentagon, and media.

The US Ambassador to Israel stated that all US Middle East policies are predicated on their effect on Israel. This is a highly inappropriate practice and one that is replicated in no other region. US policies should be based on American interests and priorities, not those of a foreign nation.

3. Campaigns by pro-Israel funders to engender Islamophobia: to create fear and hatred of Muslims, a highly diverse population of 1.5 billion people whose faith is one of the three Abrahamic religions and who worship the same God as Christians and Jews.

4. Israeli-centric news reporting by the U.S. media consistently misportrays the current situation and the history of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

5. Hollywood movies and television shows, which often play a significant role in shaping attitudes and beliefs. These shows, frequently produced by individuals with ties to Israel, depict Arabs and Muslims almost always negatively, Jews and Israelis almost never negatively, and Christians both positively and negatively.

[Interestingly, the oil and weapons industries are not responsible for our relationship with Israel. In fact, at times these industries have lobbied against U.S. support for Israel, which undermines their ability to do business in the region.]


Jonathan Pollard -- Israel granted Pollard citizenship in 1995, while publicly denying, until 1998, that he was an Israeli spy. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has voiced particularly strong support for Pollard, visiting the convicted spy in prison in 2002.
Israel promotes its own interests, which is the right of any nation.
However, this is done at the expense of Americans who fund it.


There is considerable evidence that Israel is not the close ally many Americans believe it to be:

The GAO has reported that Israel conducts the most intense spying operation against the U.S. of any of our presumed allies.
Intelligence experts consider Jonathan Pollard the most damaging spy in US history. For years Israel denied any connection to Pollard; now it actively lobbies for his release.
Israeli forces have killed and injured numerous Americans. Rarely, if ever, have there been significant consequences.
Israel has stolen U.S. technology, and passed it on to other nations, some of them U.S. adversaries.
The Israeli attack on the USS Liberty
In 1967 Israeli forces attacked a U.S. Navy ship, the USS Liberty, killing or injuring over 200 American servicemen.

An independent commission in 2003 by extraordinarily high-ranking U.S. military officers and officials found that

Israel had commited an act of war against the United States,

the US President had recalled rescue aircraft, and that

the President had ordered a cover-up on the incident.

These statements, recorded in the Congressional Record, were not reported by U.S. news media.

Israeli ethnic expansionism has caused regional misery, instability, and continual conflict.

Israeli aggression (Israel initiated all of its wars except one) and its violations of international law, human rights conventions, and UN resolutions, have created enormous hostility against it throughout the world.

The US, as Israel’s number one funder, is increasingly imperiled by hostility created by Israeli actions.

Israel’s possession of nuclear weapons poses considerable danger both to the region itself and far beyond.

it has refused to sign the nuclear proliferation treaty and the British American Security Information Council has found that in Israel “nuclear weapons are being assigned roles that go well beyond deterrence.”

While US intelligence agencies have so far found no indication that Iran is developing nuclear weapons, Israel’s possession of these weapons, combined with its history of aggression, create a compelling motivation for other nations in the region to acquire them for deterrence.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/11/23/the-cost-of-israel-to-americans/

yep,throwing your Friends under the Bus sure helps!

Will Israel be the next one to be thrown under the Bus?

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Fri 12/02/11 09:31 AM


All Around you

A loose affiliation of millionaires and billionaires...Baby


Questioning the Questioner

Question the Powers that Rule you


Prove it!

Funny how the tone changes!

Now everyone who has a hundred Bucks more than me is most likely in that loose Conspiracy!noway huh scared shocked



Consider yourself lucky you have been warned.

When you ruffle their feathers, you will see them go into action.laugh laugh

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Fri 12/02/11 09:33 AM

Israel is widely believed to possess weapons of mass destruction, and to be one of four nuclear-armed countries not recognized as a Nuclear Weapons State by the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).

.[1] The US Congress Office of Technology Assessment has recorded Israel as a country generally reported as having undeclared chemical warfare capabilities, and an offensive biological warfare program.

[2] Officially Israel neither confirms nor denies possessing nuclear weapons.

(But one of the things they do best is LIE)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction


LOL.... everyone knows they have nukes, and they never denied it... where do you get your messed up information at? ihatejews.com?
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