Topic: The Cost of Israel to Americans
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Sun 11/27/11 01:40 PM


So with the plain, simple and honest truth of the link below too difficult for Jenniebeen and Optimistic to even watch and therefore understand, (and Bestinslow not able to even view the link) it is no wonder you both take the view you do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYJd5pT1T78&list=HL1322428228&feature=mh_lolz





I live in reality, I welcome you here.


Me too. Thank you for finally accepting the truth about Israel. At long last.

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Sun 11/27/11 01:47 PM



So with the plain, simple and honest truth of the link below too difficult for Jenniebeen and Optimistic to even watch and therefore understand, (and Bestinslow not able to even view the link) it is no wonder you both take the view you do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYJd5pT1T78&list=HL1322428228&feature=mh_lolz





I live in reality, I welcome you here.


Me too. Thank you for finally accepting the truth about Israel. At long last.
My dear first you would have to do some historical research it would take many layers, then you would actualy have to get facts that are not striclty from a zionist news source, there is a reasone that Israel has had more UN condemnations than any other country, however the US allways vetos them.

Im realy not even certain if you could begin the journey to intelectual honesty but wish you luck anyhow.
y

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Sun 11/27/11 01:49 PM
The following is a list of United Nations resolutions that concern Israel and bordering states such as Lebanon. The Human Rights Council has passed more resolutions condemning Israel than it has all other states combined.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Nations_resolutions_concerning_Israel

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Sun 11/27/11 01:50 PM




So with the plain, simple and honest truth of the link below too difficult for Jenniebeen and Optimistic to even watch and therefore understand, (and Bestinslow not able to even view the link) it is no wonder you both take the view you do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYJd5pT1T78&list=HL1322428228&feature=mh_lolz





I live in reality, I welcome you here.


Me too. Thank you for finally accepting the truth about Israel. At long last.
My dear first you would have to do some historical research it would take many layers, then you would actualy have to get facts that are not striclty from a zionist news source, there is a reasone that Israel has had more UN condemnations than any other country, however the US allways vetos them.

Im realy not even certain if you could begin the journey to intelectual honesty but wish you luck anyhow.
y


I know far more than you do about the situation and I have full facts from credible sources. Israel is not doing anything against the law and the UN condemnations are because the UN has many Arab states. I thought you would understand that.

Bestinshow's photo
Sun 11/27/11 01:52 PM





So with the plain, simple and honest truth of the link below too difficult for Jenniebeen and Optimistic to even watch and therefore understand, (and Bestinslow not able to even view the link) it is no wonder you both take the view you do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYJd5pT1T78&list=HL1322428228&feature=mh_lolz





I live in reality, I welcome you here.


Me too. Thank you for finally accepting the truth about Israel. At long last.
My dear first you would have to do some historical research it would take many layers, then you would actualy have to get facts that are not striclty from a zionist news source, there is a reasone that Israel has had more UN condemnations than any other country, however the US allways vetos them.

Im realy not even certain if you could begin the journey to intelectual honesty but wish you luck anyhow.
y


I know far more than you do about the situation and I have full facts from credible sources. Israel is not doing anything against the law and the UN condemnations are because the UN has many Arab states. I thought you would understand that.
The following is a list of United Nations resolutions that concern Israel and bordering states such as Lebanon. The Human Rights Council has passed more resolutions condemning Israel than it has all other states combined.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Nations_resolutions_concerning_Israel

More than all the other states COMBINED oh because we have a bakers dozen of Arab states that is absurd.

gota run I have a dinner date and she is cooking.
Enjoy the threads.

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Sun 11/27/11 01:55 PM






So with the plain, simple and honest truth of the link below too difficult for Jenniebeen and Optimistic to even watch and therefore understand, (and Bestinslow not able to even view the link) it is no wonder you both take the view you do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYJd5pT1T78&list=HL1322428228&feature=mh_lolz





I live in reality, I welcome you here.


Me too. Thank you for finally accepting the truth about Israel. At long last.
My dear first you would have to do some historical research it would take many layers, then you would actualy have to get facts that are not striclty from a zionist news source, there is a reasone that Israel has had more UN condemnations than any other country, however the US allways vetos them.

Im realy not even certain if you could begin the journey to intelectual honesty but wish you luck anyhow.
y


I know far more than you do about the situation and I have full facts from credible sources. Israel is not doing anything against the law and the UN condemnations are because the UN has many Arab states. I thought you would understand that.
The following is a list of United Nations resolutions that concern Israel and bordering states such as Lebanon. The Human Rights Council has passed more resolutions condemning Israel than it has all other states combined.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Nations_resolutions_concerning_Israel

More than all the other states COMBINED oh because we have a bakers dozen of Arab states that is absurd.

gota run I have a dinner date and she is cooking.
Enjoy the threads.


The UN resolutions against Israel are nothing viable. Israel does everything as it should.

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Sun 11/27/11 02:36 PM





I try to avoid Zionist Propaganda, I get enough of it on the daily news.

The term Illegitimate State is what the real Anti-Zionists Jews call it.

I think I will take their word for it.



Watch this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYJd5pT1T78



OMG what a bunch of gibberish bull chit.asleep asleep

so boring and so confusing and delivered with a sarcastic boring tone. I could't get through it.







Shame really because it states it all very simply and debunks your posts.

It was the most simple one I could find for you, but if it is too difficult for you to watch there are others that it has informed.




No, nothing debunks my posts. laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Sun 11/27/11 02:40 PM
Israel is not doing anything against the law and the UN condemnations are because the UN has many Arab states. I thought you would understand that.



So that just looks like proof that Israel is persecuting the Arabs.

They are racists.

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Sun 11/27/11 02:48 PM


What war crimes?



Israel's War Crimes

The Israeli airstrikes on the Gaza Strip represent severe and massive violations of international humanitarian law as defined in the Geneva Conventions, both in regard to the obligations of an Occupying Power and in the requirements of the laws of war.

Those violations include:


Collective punishment:

The entire 1.5 million people who live in the crowded Gaza Strip are being punished for the actions of a few militants.


Targeting civilians:

The airstrikes were aimed at civilian areas in one of the most crowded stretches of land in the world, certainly the most densely populated area of the Middle East.


Disproportionate military response:

The airstrikes have not only destroyed every police and security office of Gaza's elected government, but have killed and injured hundreds of civilians; at least one strike reportedly hit groups of students attempting to find transportation home from the university.

Earlier Israeli actions, specifically the complete sealing off of entry and exit to and from the Gaza Strip, have led to severe shortages of medicine and fuel (as well as food), resulting in the inability of ambulances to respond to the injured, the inability of hospitals to adequately provide medicine or necessary equipment for the injured, and the inability of Gaza's besieged doctors and other medical workers to sufficiently treat the victims.

http://www.thenation.com/article/israels-war-crimes

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Sun 11/27/11 02:49 PM



Anytime anyone touches on the truth, or exposes the lies, people start using the over-used and abused term "Conspiracy theorists."

Fact of life is.... their are conspiracies.

Fact of life is.... The media is mostly under Zionist control.

Fact of life is... There is tons of propaganda.

Fact of life is... History is not meant to tell the truth, but to spin in favor of the Elite.

Fact of Life is.... The term anti-Semitic is a racist slur and only used by Zionists and Brainwashed Zionist supporters.

Fact of Life is.... "Jewish" is not a race.


Did you know that half of all US documents are classified? This presents a huge problemb for historians being any seriouse research is handicapped by the fact that half of what you need to know is classified.

So basicly we only know the stuff that sheds a postative light on our crappy government and society.



Yes, the are classified to protect THE GUILTY!!!

THAT IS UNEXCEPTIONABLE!

As an American citizen I want to know what those classified documents say and I want to know why they are classified.

The truth is being kept away from the public.





Government information has several classifications...They are unclassified, sensitive but unclassified, restricted, confidential, secret, and top secret....The classifications are determined with care and diligence by qualified individuals....Access to classified information is restricted and regulated BY LAW....Each classification has different clearance requirements...TOP SECRET government information consists of material that if made public WOULD, not COULD, cause grave danger to national security.....Simple common sense...
Anyone who thinks they are entitled to ALL government information, ALL the time better be willing to give up all their little secrets right up to an including the cellulite on their bottoms because if they get what they want they will be bathing in public as they will have NO right to privacy.....

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Sun 11/27/11 02:52 PM
What war crimes?



Today it was reported that Israel was overjoyed at the fact that the British government has passed legislation "curtailing citizens' rights to seek the arrest of foreign politicians for alleged war crimes."

In 2010, Israel had stopped sending its representatives to Britain for fear that they would be tried for war crimes. The passing of this legislation signals to Israel and the world that Britain is entirely fine with giving war criminals, in the words of Amnesty International, "'a free ticket to escape the law.'"

This legislation signals that Britain is willing ignore the numerous war crimes of Israel, such as those perpetrated in Israel's constant blockade of the Gaza Strip.

The law flies in the face of previous situations where Israel was worried about going to the UK. One such instance was in 2009 when "lawyers representing 16 Palestinians asked a London court to issue an arrest warrant for [Israeli] defense minister, Ehud Barak."

It is quite interesting to note that many Israeli officials were afraid of traveling to the UK because of this. One could reasonably speculate that this is due to the fact that many Israeli officials know they could be prosecuted for war crimes because if one is confident that they didn't commit war crimes or that the charges could easily be proven false, why would they be afraid?

By passing this law, Britain is firmly protecting members of a regime that have committed war crimes.

After the Gaza massacre in 2009, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu stated that he would "never to allow Israeli leaders or soldiers to stand trial on war crimes charges over their actions during last winter’s military offensive in the Gaza Strip," even though there were reports that stated that the Israeli military had committed war crimes.

This has larger ramifications as well. Now any member of a regime that commits war crimes can flee to Britain.

Today the British government has shown just how much it cares about justice, not just for Palestinians, but for the people of the world as a whole.

Britain is now a safe haven for war criminals.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26601

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Sun 11/27/11 02:54 PM




Anytime anyone touches on the truth, or exposes the lies, people start using the over-used and abused term "Conspiracy theorists."

Fact of life is.... their are conspiracies.

Fact of life is.... The media is mostly under Zionist control.

Fact of life is... There is tons of propaganda.

Fact of life is... History is not meant to tell the truth, but to spin in favor of the Elite.

Fact of Life is.... The term anti-Semitic is a racist slur and only used by Zionists and Brainwashed Zionist supporters.

Fact of Life is.... "Jewish" is not a race.


Did you know that half of all US documents are classified? This presents a huge problemb for historians being any seriouse research is handicapped by the fact that half of what you need to know is classified.

So basicly we only know the stuff that sheds a postative light on our crappy government and society.



Yes, the are classified to protect THE GUILTY!!!

THAT IS UNEXCEPTIONABLE!

As an American citizen I want to know what those classified documents say and I want to know why they are classified.

The truth is being kept away from the public.





Government information has several classifications...They are unclassified, sensitive but unclassified, restricted, confidential, secret, and top secret....The classifications are determined with care and diligence by qualified individuals....Access to classified information is restricted and regulated BY LAW....Each classification has different clearance requirements...TOP SECRET government information consists of material that if made public WOULD, not COULD, cause grave danger to national security.....Simple common sense...
Anyone who thinks they are entitled to ALL government information, ALL the time better be willing to give up all their little secrets right up to an including the cellulite on their bottoms because if they get what they want they will be bathing in public as they will have NO right to privacy.....


I would say, "You show me yours and I'll show you mine."

I have nothing to hide.

They do.


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Sun 11/27/11 02:56 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 11/27/11 02:56 PM
There are also a view levels called "above top secret." And information that the President, our commander and Chief, is not cleared to see.

That's pushing the classified B.S a little far if you ask me.


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Sun 11/27/11 03:09 PM





Anytime anyone touches on the truth, or exposes the lies, people start using the over-used and abused term "Conspiracy theorists."

Fact of life is.... their are conspiracies.

Fact of life is.... The media is mostly under Zionist control.

Fact of life is... There is tons of propaganda.

Fact of life is... History is not meant to tell the truth, but to spin in favor of the Elite.

Fact of Life is.... The term anti-Semitic is a racist slur and only used by Zionists and Brainwashed Zionist supporters.

Fact of Life is.... "Jewish" is not a race.


Did you know that half of all US documents are classified? This presents a huge problemb for historians being any seriouse research is handicapped by the fact that half of what you need to know is classified.

So basicly we only know the stuff that sheds a postative light on our crappy government and society.



Yes, the are classified to protect THE GUILTY!!!

THAT IS UNEXCEPTIONABLE!

As an American citizen I want to know what those classified documents say and I want to know why they are classified.

The truth is being kept away from the public.





Government information has several classifications...They are unclassified, sensitive but unclassified, restricted, confidential, secret, and top secret....The classifications are determined with care and diligence by qualified individuals....Access to classified information is restricted and regulated BY LAW....Each classification has different clearance requirements...TOP SECRET government information consists of material that if made public WOULD, not COULD, cause grave danger to national security.....Simple common sense...
Anyone who thinks they are entitled to ALL government information, ALL the time better be willing to give up all their little secrets right up to an including the cellulite on their bottoms because if they get what they want they will be bathing in public as they will have NO right to privacy.....


I would say, "You show me yours and I'll show you mine."

I have nothing to hide.

They do.




Jeannie do you really believe we, all of us the world over, should have access to all government and military information?

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Sun 11/27/11 03:11 PM

There are also a view levels called "above top secret." And information that the President, our commander and Chief, is not cleared to see.

That's pushing the classified B.S a little far if you ask me.




Well how far do you think we as citizens should push transparency ??

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Sun 11/27/11 03:20 PM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Sun 11/27/11 03:38 PM


Britain is now a safe haven for war criminals.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26601


Yes I am afraid Cameron is also on the Payroll of The Zionist Lobby.
CFOI are big contributors to the conservatives..http://www2.cfoi.co.uk/.

Not just confined to the Conservatives.....Blair is also a War Criminal sold his soul for JP Morgan Gold.


The British and USA are one and the same when it Comes to covering Israels back.

The British Created this mess and the Palestinians are paying a heavy price


Senior Conservatives have assured opposition leader Tzipi Livni that a Tory government would change the law that allows magistrates to issue arrest warrants for foreign politicians accused of war crimes.
Shadow business secretary Ken Clarke and shadow attorney general Edward Garnier met her in Israel as part of a party charm offensive.


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Sun 11/27/11 03:23 PM



What war crimes?



Israel's War Crimes

The Israeli airstrikes on the Gaza Strip represent severe and massive violations of international humanitarian law as defined in the Geneva Conventions, both in regard to the obligations of an Occupying Power and in the requirements of the laws of war.

Those violations include:


Collective punishment:

The entire 1.5 million people who live in the crowded Gaza Strip are being punished for the actions of a few militants.


Targeting civilians:

The airstrikes were aimed at civilian areas in one of the most crowded stretches of land in the world, certainly the most densely populated area of the Middle East.


Disproportionate military response:

The airstrikes have not only destroyed every police and security office of Gaza's elected government, but have killed and injured hundreds of civilians; at least one strike reportedly hit groups of students attempting to find transportation home from the university.

Earlier Israeli actions, specifically the complete sealing off of entry and exit to and from the Gaza Strip, have led to severe shortages of medicine and fuel (as well as food), resulting in the inability of ambulances to respond to the injured, the inability of hospitals to adequately provide medicine or necessary equipment for the injured, and the inability of Gaza's besieged doctors and other medical workers to sufficiently treat the victims.

http://www.thenation.com/article/israels-war-crimes



Eventually even the author of the UN Goldstone report which made
these accusations publicly recanted and distanced himself from his
own report! He now agrees that Israel criticism was unjustified
being based largely on unsupported lies about civilian casualties.
War crimes occurred - but only those war crimes carried out by
Hamas against Israel.

Read his mea culpa here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/reconsidering-the-goldstone-report-on-israel-and-war-crimes/2011/04/01/AFg111JC_story.html

Disgraceful.

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Sun 11/27/11 03:25 PM


There are also a view levels called "above top secret." And information that the President, our commander and Chief, is not cleared to see.

That's pushing the classified B.S a little far if you ask me.




Well how far do you think we as citizens should push transparency ??



We should push it as far as possible to expose political corruption and discover the truth.

This is OUR country.

no photo
Sun 11/27/11 03:27 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 11/27/11 03:27 PM




What war crimes?



Israel's War Crimes

The Israeli airstrikes on the Gaza Strip represent severe and massive violations of international humanitarian law as defined in the Geneva Conventions, both in regard to the obligations of an Occupying Power and in the requirements of the laws of war.

Those violations include:


Collective punishment:

The entire 1.5 million people who live in the crowded Gaza Strip are being punished for the actions of a few militants.


Targeting civilians:

The airstrikes were aimed at civilian areas in one of the most crowded stretches of land in the world, certainly the most densely populated area of the Middle East.


Disproportionate military response:

The airstrikes have not only destroyed every police and security office of Gaza's elected government, but have killed and injured hundreds of civilians; at least one strike reportedly hit groups of students attempting to find transportation home from the university.

Earlier Israeli actions, specifically the complete sealing off of entry and exit to and from the Gaza Strip, have led to severe shortages of medicine and fuel (as well as food), resulting in the inability of ambulances to respond to the injured, the inability of hospitals to adequately provide medicine or necessary equipment for the injured, and the inability of Gaza's besieged doctors and other medical workers to sufficiently treat the victims.

http://www.thenation.com/article/israels-war-crimes



Eventually even the author of the UN Goldstone report which made
these accusations publicly recanted and distanced himself from his
own report! He now agrees that Israel criticism was unjustified
being based largely on unsupported lies about civilian casualties.
War crimes occurred - but only those war crimes carried out by
Hamas against Israel.

Read his mea culpa here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/reconsidering-the-goldstone-report-on-israel-and-war-crimes/2011/04/01/AFg111JC_story.html

Disgraceful.



If what you say is true, that is a common theme when people are threatened viciously, or bribed, or blackmailed.

He was probably compromised in some way.


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Sun 11/27/11 03:29 PM



There are also a view levels called "above top secret." And information that the President, our commander and Chief, is not cleared to see.

That's pushing the classified B.S a little far if you ask me.




Well how far do you think we as citizens should push transparency ??



We should push it as far as possible to expose political corruption and discover the truth.

This is OUR country.


Political corruption is exposed all the time....