I have always heard woman saying how they want a nice guy who will love them the way they are and bla bla bla. I just don't get it. For example a guy cooks, cleans, works, pays bills, washes cloths, takes care of kids, wants to spend all his time with her, even takes care of he kids from other baby daddis, fixes her car, etc etc etc. On top of that he is decent looking, good in bed, and affectionate. What the H more could a woman ask for?

Man, that's just SO hypothetical..

Think the main thing that MOST women want is for a man to be who he is.

ya know that is so true but its hard to find someone like that now a days

This might sound shallow and self-serving, but I think what a female really wants in a guy is the one who can put up with her lady craziness and still cuddle with her when she goes bonkers. Also, a guy that doesn't stomp on top of every last one of her pet peeves whatever those may be, but my only real experience with women is with the mentally disturbed ones...so...maybe not the best resource.

first I doubt that man exists and if he does he's complaining about it all the time, I am sure (whine whine "I do this" "I do that" guilt trip manipulate and whine)

I do not want a man to do anything but spend time getting to know me as a person, figure out what stuff we can do together that really is fun, and grow together in intimacy....if our housekeeping styles are not compatible he keeps his own place.... ideally I'd find someone who's as big a neat freak as I am

thank you

and sexy

I dunno bout the other women here. But I can break it down for you on what I want...
I don't want someone who does everything to please me. I don't want a man to assume that his doing the dishes, washing clothes, cleaning, taking care of kids, ect. is going to make me happy. I want a man who doesn't follow those stupid cliches... Like just because I'm a girl, I have 15 trillion pairs of shoes, like to shop and could start my own cosmetics store with all the make up I have lying around. A guy, for me, is perfect when he can deal with me at my best and worst. Someone who is in touch with himself enough to be okay with being sensitive when I need it, or being a complete A-hole when I'm being a b-word. And personally, I don't want to spend all of my time with my significant other. I like my alone time. And contrary to popular belief, I hate it when guys clean house... Maybe that's cause I like doing it one way and guys, in general, don't do it that way. In the end, a guy has to be willing to fight with me a good long fight to be together, and deal with my crazy quirkiness as I deal with his. I don't need the world from a guy, I just need to know he's willing, like me, to put the effort into it.

You need to read "No More Mr Nice Guy". Women raise men to act that way. Women often say that is the kind of man they want. But the brain and the hormones disagree. Women are typically attracted to dominant men. Not necessarily men who dominate them, but dominate the world around them. Take charge and seem to be fearless. Stand up for themselves and demand their just dues. Basically, a woman can get a door mat for $10 at Walmart, why would she settle for dating or marrying one?

In another thread, weren't you just saying that you wanted a woman to keep a clean house for you? So while she's doing that, you're still cleaning and cooking and washing clothes? Uh huh...

What are their "just dues?"

It should be self explanatory. A guys night out every now and then. A back massage when he's had a stressful day. A romantic evening every now and then that he doesn't have to plan. You know, all the stuff that a woman wants, but nice guys rarely ask for and rarely (or never) get.

If it were self explanatory, I wouldn't have had to ask.

If you're not getting what you want, you should start speaking up more, rather than complaining that you're not getting it. It might work better that way, as women can't read minds. Try it out.

why assume women want men in the first place.
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I said it should be self explanatory, because "just dues" is a fairly common phrase. It means "What you have earned/deserve".



Now you are just being boorish. I'm not in a relationship and when I choose to get into one, I will communicate my wants and needs. I clearly wasn't complaining, I was explaining to you what I meant by "just dues".

I had to ask, as I didn't know what you thought you have earned or deserved.

And this is the part I was talking about: but nice guys rarely ask for and rarely (or never) get.

To me, that sounds like you're not getting what you want. If you are, awesome.

gppd point I want MAN not MEN

one is enough trouble

I don't think that was quite the point she was making.

ugh here we go again. reading with woman eyes again. That other post was me speaking in general, maybe you should read it again for what it says in plan english instead of turning things around or skipping every other word.

I believe that a major impediment to communication between men and women is that women speak with and listen for subtext, while men are direct and expect directness.