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Why bother...what we want does not matter. It does matter!!! If it does not matter to a man you are involved with, move on to the next guy that it does matter. Same for any guy out there. If what you want, feel or need does not matter to the woman you are with, Move on and let her go. |
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Ok I know it looks like I am overtaking this topic, well I am. LOL.
As for other women, I have no clue what they want. What I want in a man is integrity, honesty, laughter, respect, empathy and an open loving heart. A man that can accept that I would rather fix a broken toaster than wash dishes. A man that accepts that I forgot to fold the clean laundry and finish my term paper. A man that can see me in his worn out team shirt and flannel pants and appreaciate it as much as if I had on garters and high heel stilettos. A man that knows I want to quit ciggarette smoking, yet does not put me down because I did not stop like he did over night. A man that knows what needs to be done around the house and does it. A man that does not mind that I like to use the string trimmer in the yard and not push the mower. A man that will pull his eyes away from the tv to listen to my stupid story about the squirrls running across the porch. Because these are the things that I would do for him. Listen to him tell about the dork he has to work with, make it easier for him to find his missing article of clothing or find his keys. Encourage him. Love him as he is. And go hand in hand to fight all this world throws at us, together as a strong unit. Yet, give him the freedom to follow his dreams. |
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I have always heard woman saying how they want a nice guy who will love them the way they are and bla bla bla. I just don't get it. For example a guy cooks, cleans, works, pays bills, washes cloths, takes care of kids, wants to spend all his time with her, even takes care of he kids from other baby daddis, fixes her car, etc etc etc. On top of that he is decent looking, good in bed, and affectionate. What the H more could a woman ask for? In another thread, weren't you just saying that you wanted a woman to keep a clean house for you? So while she's doing that, you're still cleaning and cooking and washing clothes? Uh huh... ugh here we go again. reading with woman eyes again. That other post was me speaking in general, maybe you should read it again for what it says in plan english instead of turning things around or skipping every other word. Ah, I thought you were speaking for yourself, rather than in general. Sorry, my mistake. Why are woman always so fast to make men seem controling. In any relationship neither party can expect their partner to let them do anything they want. both people are going to have concerns about things and there is going to be things they are going to want them to do and not do. Now "in general" some men might not want their woman going out without them or some woman might feel this same way. Its all about pleaseing your mate. There will be things you have to do that you might not want to do, and things you much give up to make things work. Thats just the way it should work. Work together to make things work, the overall goal is to make things work together, nothing else in the world should ever get in the way of that. Friends, family etc take a back seat to this. I think a lot of people both men and woman have forgotten this today we cannot "make " anyone "seem" controlling,it is what it is- nor can we really control anyone other than our own selves. I will pretty much do as I please unless it somehow could cause harm to my partner or is immoral or illegal - so while I might go somewhere without him - I would not spend his money without his knowledge (and never have to a partner) or get drunk & wreck his stuff. I do agree that the primary relationship is the one you have with your partner and is first before other relationships you have. and that most relationships fail because one partner fails to understand this. My ex seldom spent time with me, and ultimately it did not bode well. but it is what it is - I would prefer someone who wanted to spend time with me rather than someone who felt they were "obligated" -this goes for "giving things up" I am not sacrificing to have a partner - if we love each other we are not giving anything up - we are gaining. I do not see that as a sacrifice, but I'm just weird, I guess |
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A million dollars, Twizzlers, and somebody who doesn't want to change her but she'll usually settle for the last two. most times you have to change a little in time to make things work, refusing to change anything about your life but still want to share it with someone else is just crazy it's a matter of degree and the kind of change - maybe this is why statisically the more a couple has in common the better the chance of success - we aren't all meant to be statistics tho 
and tead may be speaking about inner change - one might be willing to move or change a schedule, even hair color - but not who I am on the inside |
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I have always heard woman saying how they want a nice guy who will love them the way they are and bla bla bla. I just don't get it. For example a guy cooks, cleans, works, pays bills, washes cloths, takes care of kids, wants to spend all his time with her, even takes care of he kids from other baby daddis, fixes her car, etc etc etc. On top of that he is decent looking, good in bed, and affectionate. What the H more could a woman ask for? In another thread, weren't you just saying that you wanted a woman to keep a clean house for you? So while she's doing that, you're still cleaning and cooking and washing clothes? Uh huh... ugh here we go again. reading with woman eyes again. That other post was me speaking in general, maybe you should read it again for what it says in plan english instead of turning things around or skipping every other word. Ah, I thought you were speaking for yourself, rather than in general. Sorry, my mistake. Why are woman always so fast to make men seem controling. In any relationship neither party can expect their partner to let them do anything they want. both people are going to have concerns about things and there is going to be things they are going to want them to do and not do. Now "in general" some men might not want their woman going out without them or some woman might feel this same way. Its all about pleaseing your mate. There will be things you have to do that you might not want to do, and things you much give up to make things work. Thats just the way it should work. Work together to make things work, the overall goal is to make things work together, nothing else in the world should ever get in the way of that. Friends, family etc take a back seat to this. I think a lot of people both men and woman have forgotten this today we cannot "make " anyone "seem" controlling,it is what it is- nor can we really control anyone other than our own selves. I will pretty much do as I please unless it somehow could cause harm to my partner or is immoral or illegal - so while I might go somewhere without him - I would not spend his money without his knowledge (and never have to a partner) or get drunk & wreck his stuff. I do agree that the primary relationship is the one you have with your partner and is first before other relationships you have. and that most relationships fail because one partner fails to understand this. My ex seldom spent time with me, and ultimately it did not bode well. but it is what it is - I would prefer someone who wanted to spend time with me rather than someone who felt they were "obligated" -this goes for "giving things up" I am not sacrificing to have a partner - if we love each other we are not giving anything up - we are gaining. I do not see that as a sacrifice, but I'm just weird, I guess - I'd be leery of a man who felt he was "sacrificing" to be with me...ummmmmmm, no thanks |
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Can i just say that men really have no idea how we are supposed to act. Are we supposed to be nice and supportive? Controling alph males? bad boys? What? Who knows. Mean are simple and we can only be one way or the other. We are not like women who can change channels with moods. We are who we are day in and day out. I think u should avoid such generalizations if u wish to be taken seriously, and this is not the first one. you are also not in a position to tell anyone what to do (get a job) or wrong from right (accept alimony or not) facts are still that financially divorce has a far greater negative financial impact on a woman in most cases- tho it usually hurts the man as well (one household is cheaper than 2) but it often throws women into poverty - especially if they stayed at home as home makers and mothers and did not have a paying career. It's the typing pool at $8/hr....after many years of hard work she DESERVES a supplement to that kind of income so she can live a decent life - and some financial renumeration for all of the cooking, cleaning, driving, gardening....most men do not realize how much women do until the woman leaves and he doesn;t know where the toilet paper is kept...pathetic |
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Can i just say that men really have no idea how we are supposed to act. Are we supposed to be nice and supportive? Controling alph males? bad boys? What? Who knows. Mean are simple and we can only be one way or the other. We are not like women who can change channels with moods. We are who we are day in and day out. I think u should avoid such generalizations if u wish to be taken seriously, and this is not the first one. you are also not in a position to tell anyone what to do (get a job) or wrong from right (accept alimony or not) facts are still that financially divorce has a far greater negative financial impact on a woman in most cases- tho it usually hurts the man as well (one household is cheaper than 2) but it often throws women into poverty - especially if they stayed at home as home makers and mothers and did not have a paying career. It's the typing pool at $8/hr....after many years of hard work she DESERVES a supplement to that kind of income so she can live a decent life - and some financial renumeration for all of the cooking, cleaning, driving, gardening....most men do not realize how much women do until the woman leaves and he doesn;t know where the toilet paper is kept...pathetic lol your funny, i see it like this once the person with the money leaves no one is entittled to any of it for any reason. Thats like having your cake and eat it too. If as you say "woman are thrown into poverty" they deserve to be there. Men are the ones who end up getting screwed today, woman leave take the house, the car, etc and for the honor or having everything we have working for taken away we get to pay her almost half out income. I don't understand why any man is his right mind would ever get married or put her name on anything. Its crazy. |
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It seems that this thread has descended into man-hating and woman-hating. Sad really, but to be expected.
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It seems that this thread has descended into man-hating and woman-hating. Sad really, but to be expected. The only hating I really see is coming from civic. He's already told us he's incredibly angry, though. |
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I have always heard woman saying how they want a nice guy who will love them the way they are and bla bla bla. I just don't get it. For example a guy cooks, cleans, works, pays bills, washes cloths, takes care of kids, wants to spend all his time with her, even takes care of he kids from other baby daddis, fixes her car, etc etc etc. On top of that he is decent looking, good in bed, and affectionate. What the H more could a woman ask for? Hmmm, I've seen these type a lot, and they are the ones who choose beauty over brains and sensitivity in women. Women who look like models, but treat their men like punk azz bi*ches. Any woman in her right mind who has a good man as you described above would not ask for anything more. If you're a "nice guy" with a woman who doesn't appreciate you then you are a punk azz bi*ch. |
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why assume women want men in the first place. o.O Cause the majority of us do, at least one man. Men are awesome, and I don't care what any woman says there are things they can do that we can't and vise versa. We need each other. |
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I want a compasionate loving husband that wouldevote his love2me and never betray or hurt me in any way.
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I have always heard woman saying how they want a nice guy who will love them the way they are and bla bla bla. I just don't get it. For example a guy cooks, cleans, works, pays bills, washes cloths, takes care of kids, wants to spend all his time with her, even takes care of he kids from other baby daddis, fixes her car, etc etc etc. On top of that he is decent looking, good in bed, and affectionate. What the H more could a woman ask for? You need to read "No More Mr Nice Guy". Women raise men to act that way. Women often say that is the kind of man they want. But the brain and the hormones disagree. Women are typically attracted to dominant men. Not necessarily men who dominate them, but dominate the world around them. Take charge and seem to be fearless. Stand up for themselves and demand their just dues. Basically, a woman can get a door mat for $10 at Walmart, why would she settle for dating or marrying one? |
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I have always heard woman saying how they want a nice guy who will love them the way they are and bla bla bla. I just don't get it. For example a guy cooks, cleans, works, pays bills, washes cloths, takes care of kids, wants to spend all his time with her, even takes care of he kids from other baby daddis, fixes her car, etc etc etc. On top of that he is decent looking, good in bed, and affectionate. What the H more could a woman ask for? You need to read "No More Mr Nice Guy". Women raise men to act that way. Women often say that is the kind of man they want. But the brain and the hormones disagree. Women are typically attracted to dominant men. Not necessarily men who dominate them, but dominate the world around them. Take charge and seem to be fearless. Stand up for themselves and demand their just dues. Basically, a woman can get a door mat for $10 at Walmart, why would she settle for dating or marrying one? |
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I know I am a loud mouth but I really do not like the concept of men being sought after as utilitarian objects or a means to an end. I think that is insulting. Every man is so much more than that if you get to know him. They have so much more to offer in intrinsic value. Yes, the whole manly man protector provider package can be attractive but it is shallow and does not endure time and sorrow. It does not pass the test of time into old age. There had better be some other reasons why you love that man and find him personally as a human being unique and attractive. Whether it be his creativity or his humanity or his great integrity or if you are lucky all three.
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I have 15 trillion pairs of shoes, like to shop and could start my own cosmetics store with all the make up I have lying around. That is written on your FACE. |
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Cause the majority of us do, at least one man. Men are awesome, and I don't care what any woman says there are things they can do that we can't and vise versa. We need each other. but not all. what can men do that women can't? impregnate. what can women do that men can't? get pregnant. or am i missing something else? |
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Cause the majority of us do, at least one man. Men are awesome, and I don't care what any woman says there are things they can do that we can't and vise versa. We need each other. but not all. what can men do that women can't? impregnate. what can women do that men can't? get pregnant. or am i missing something else? That is cold. See this is why my ex husband and I are still good friends and he is paranoid of women who want the little empire that I built with him but he trusts me because I did help build it. I would be scared to be a man these days when so many people are so negative. There is something to be said for having masculine energy around. It is different from feminine energy. I am not saying that I can not lift something or work a power tool but that is not the point. There are contributions that come from male thinking that are different from female thinking and equally valuable. Often men have a different perspective on a situation. NOTE: I did not say a better or more rational, etc. I said DIFFERENT. I do value my male friends very much because they will often see a situation differently and present an option, I did not consider previously. I have often been in a situation and did not like my options that seemed obvious as a woman and a male friend would point out there were other options if I detached from the feminine thinking. Often, they are thinking more about me and less about society and looking good and more about my welfare. |
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but not all. what can men do that women can't? impregnate. what can women do that men can't? get pregnant. or am i missing something else? I can prepare a lengthy list for BOTH. |
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I think they want men to know what girls want.
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