I ALWAYS open doors for ladies, that way I can see them from behind!!!

Mikey!! Perv.

As long as you don't smack them in the behind...you are okay...

Otherwise you might get a live one like me, you slaps you solidly across the face!!

Wait a minute...you consider the foreplay, don't you?? NEVERMIND. LOL.

I am more the "bite into the butt cheek and drag me a few laps around the coffee table" kinda guy.

That is a good one. And I have gotten busted on that one before. Its so true. I have seen it in the work place; Group settings and When I was courting someone. A lot of my early jobs required a strong back and a weak mind. You get the job. You get the position. You get the woman. And then I would cop the attitude. Either, I ain't your slave; I ain't your mother and I ain't your biotch. But, of course, all three of these is expected of the mate. Some have referred to this as the double standard. Which can be like a contradiction in terms if you wouldn't ask anybody else to do what you wouldn't do.

Male and female roles have changed so much in such a short period of time so I can understand your frustration. But, I don't know any women who don't appreciate flowers, door holding and other such displays. I know I appreciate them and enjoy a man who takes the time to do them.

But after she would become my slave I would get upset for her being so clingy and getting into my personal space. After she would become my mother I would get upset and tell her that she wasn't my mother. And after she would become my biotch I would lose interest in her.

I think that is why I like the barter with friends so much easier. Maybe its because I am just a religious capitalist at heart.

Either that or just an imperialist pig. I am not sure if there is really a difference.

well I see a good deal of it. maybe I am just lucky, but most men I encounter are gentlemen - even if a bit awkward about it sometimes

The more it becomes a conditional response the more natural it can seem. With some of the elderly women I encounter it is not a problem. One of our CNA supervisors when I was talking to her about restraints because I used to work in nursing home that had them told me that we were not allowed to use restraints because the residents had the right to fall down. Instead we use alarms and we are supposed to rush to the resident when they go off. Of course, the alarms drive them crazy and they ask me to turn them off. So, I have gotten to the point of asking them, "Would you rather fall down or would like help in walking?" The conditional response of those that can remember or are afraid of falling don't have hang ups on me assisting them. The response of the men is quite different, usually. They tell me they don't need any help but don't get upset if I catch them before they fall.

Very well said.

I do love a gentleman

I think holding open doors is just being polite. As for flowers; I really don't care for them but will thank someone for them; however the guy knows I really don't appreciate them which makes me feel bad. My experience has been that when I got flowers was when a guy screwed up which was his way of apologizing without the words. I would rather he man up and apoligize for what he did than buy me a flowers. If I am having a problem with a man; flowers aren't going to fix it. JMO

Chivalry is dead, argghhh. I remember holding the door for a man, for the nth times. tsk tsk, what a total turn off. lols.

As parents we must constantly educate and remind younger generations especially, our sons the best trait of being a gentleman. Setting a good example is the ideal way to start.

I don't think chilvary is that big of a deal but manners and being polite is the example we should be setting for both sons and daughters.

You guys aren't immune to the changing world, I hear you have these things called chavs.....

It's a turn off to hold a door for a man? And here I just thought it was being polite.

Yep, I thought the same thing when I open a door for a man; just being polite.

I buy myself flowers, but certainly do appreciate a little old-fashioned chivalry - doors, etc!