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When greed versus greed it is like the proverbial when a unstoppable force meets an immovable object. Its the big bang theory all over again. Its the law of the land what can you do. When greed is the law how do choose which greed has the right of way.
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Of all the problems we are facing today they want to pick on a plant? A PLANT! I heard a rumor that Obama was being blackmailed, which is not a surprise. He should just come out of the closet if he is gay. Wouldn't that be awesome? A flaming gay homosexual black president. COME OUT OF THE CLOSET OBAMA!! JEannie I dont think they are picking on the plant, they are picking on ILLEGAL (for profit, dispersed near schools,,etc) sale of the plant There should be no laws against a plant at all. Its just a plant. God put it on the earth for a reason. How can a plant or the possession of a plant, or the sale of a plant be illegal? It is not a drug. It should NOT be illegal. It should not be "legalized and controlled" either. Its just a plant. |
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Obama Medical Marijuana Policies Now Worse Than Bush: DPA Despite the Obama Administration's promise to respect state law and leave medical marijuana patients alone, its attack on patients and providers operating legally under state law is rapidly escalating. ........ The Treasury Department is now forcing banks in Colorado to close accounts of medical marijuana businesses operating legally under state law. ........ The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) now says it will not recognize legitimate business expenses of dispensaries and is requiring owners to pay taxes required of no other businesses; the result will be closure of the most well regulated dispensaries, and the loss of millions of dollars in tax revenue for local governments -- not exactly a wise move during the middle of the greatest economic crisis since the Great Depression. And the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) last week ruled that state-sanctioned medical marijuana patients cannot legally possess firearms. .......... "Barack Obasma is betraying promises made when he ran for president and turning his back on the sensible policies announced during his first year in office," Nadelmann said. "Instead of encouraging state and locals authorities to regulate medical marijuana distribution in the interests of public safety and health, his administration seems determined to re-criminalize as much as possible. "It all adds up to bad policy, bad politics and bad faith," Nadelmann said. -------------------------------------------------------------------- now more lies and deceit to get your votes stop electing democrats and republicans they are the two worst terrorist groups our constitution faces |
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Sen. Obama has publicly promised to end the federal raids on state medical marijuana patients and their caregivers. Sen. Obama also voted against an amendment in the U.S. Senate that was intended to undermine state medical marijuana laws. ......... On July 21, 2007 at a town hall meeting in Manchester, New Hampshire, a GSMM staffer asked Sen. Obama if he would end the raids. Sen. Obama replied: "The Justice Department going after sick individuals using this as a palliative instead of going after serious criminals makes no sense." .......... On August 21, during a campaign event in Nashua, New Hampshire, Sen. Obama was asked by GSMM volunteer and seriously ill Nashua resident Scott Turner if he would end the federal raids on medical marijuana patients like him. Sen. Obama replied: "I would not have the Justice Department prosecuting and raiding medical marijuana users. It's not a good use of our resources. http://granitestaters.com/candidates/barack_obama.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ so much for those campaign renderings |
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Of all the problems we are facing today they want to pick on a plant? A PLANT! I heard a rumor that Obama was being blackmailed, which is not a surprise. He should just come out of the closet if he is gay. Wouldn't that be awesome? A flaming gay homosexual black president. COME OUT OF THE CLOSET OBAMA!! JEannie I dont think they are picking on the plant, they are picking on ILLEGAL (for profit, dispersed near schools,,etc) sale of the plant There should be no laws against a plant at all. Its just a plant. God put it on the earth for a reason. How can a plant or the possession of a plant, or the sale of a plant be illegal? It is not a drug. It should NOT be illegal. It should not be "legalized and controlled" either. Its just a plant. there are other candidates besides democrat or republicans running? |
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Of all the problems we are facing today they want to pick on a plant? A PLANT! I heard a rumor that Obama was being blackmailed, which is not a surprise. He should just come out of the closet if he is gay. Wouldn't that be awesome? A flaming gay homosexual black president. COME OUT OF THE CLOSET OBAMA!! JEannie I dont think they are picking on the plant, they are picking on ILLEGAL (for profit, dispersed near schools,,etc) sale of the plant There should be no laws against a plant at all. Its just a plant. God put it on the earth for a reason. How can a plant or the possession of a plant, or the sale of a plant be illegal? It is not a drug. It should NOT be illegal. It should not be "legalized and controlled" either. Its just a plant. there are other candidates besides democrat or republicans running? |
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That's really the entire problem with the political system, we are pushed into one of two political boxes. And no matter who "wins" nothing changes. They get what they want either way. As long as we keep going along with it, we won't get any positive change.
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This is very true
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Sen. Obama has publicly promised to end the federal raids on state medical marijuana patients and their caregivers. Sen. Obama also voted against an amendment in the U.S. Senate that was intended to undermine state medical marijuana laws. ......... On July 21, 2007 at a town hall meeting in Manchester, New Hampshire, a GSMM staffer asked Sen. Obama if he would end the raids. Sen. Obama replied: "The Justice Department going after sick individuals using this as a palliative instead of going after serious criminals makes no sense." .......... On August 21, during a campaign event in Nashua, New Hampshire, Sen. Obama was asked by GSMM volunteer and seriously ill Nashua resident Scott Turner if he would end the federal raids on medical marijuana patients like him. Sen. Obama replied: "I would not have the Justice Department prosecuting and raiding medical marijuana users. It's not a good use of our resources. http://granitestaters.com/candidates/barack_obama.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ so much for those campaign renderings This doesn't have anything to do with Obama as usual. The shops have to follow the state and local laws to stay open and if they do not the feds will close them or raid them. These dispensaries did not follow the laws. |
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Edited by
Kleisto
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Sat 10/08/11 09:10 PM
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Quite frankly when the laws are a joke, they don't deserve to be followed IMO. I know you're probably just gonna laugh at it. But let's face fact, the government basically uses terrorizing tactics to get what they want.
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Sen. Obama has publicly promised to end the federal raids on state medical marijuana patients and their caregivers. Sen. Obama also voted against an amendment in the U.S. Senate that was intended to undermine state medical marijuana laws. ......... On July 21, 2007 at a town hall meeting in Manchester, New Hampshire, a GSMM staffer asked Sen. Obama if he would end the raids. Sen. Obama replied: "The Justice Department going after sick individuals using this as a palliative instead of going after serious criminals makes no sense." .......... On August 21, during a campaign event in Nashua, New Hampshire, Sen. Obama was asked by GSMM volunteer and seriously ill Nashua resident Scott Turner if he would end the federal raids on medical marijuana patients like him. Sen. Obama replied: "I would not have the Justice Department prosecuting and raiding medical marijuana users. It's not a good use of our resources. http://granitestaters.com/candidates/barack_obama.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ so much for those campaign renderings people are confusing issues 'dispensaries' are places where people SELL to the sick,, its not the sick themself they arent going after sick people who use medical marijuana, they are going after the dispensaries that may or may not be distributing them in accordance with the laws and regulations... |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Sat 10/08/11 11:14 PM
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That's really the entire problem with the political system, we are pushed into one of two political boxes. And no matter who "wins" nothing changes. They get what they want either way. As long as we keep going along with it, we won't get any positive change. I really think that no matter how many 'boxes' people were in, they would still act and vote the same we could have a dozen boxes and the problems and issues wouldnt change nor how people voted on them I register one box or another, but that box alone does not dictate to me who I will or can vote for,, I vote for whomever I choose... |
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It is still stupid to have such laws. They do not make such laws for drug stores or even liquor stores. By making such laws they are depriving the sick of a safe medication.
No one has ever died from smoking pot. Yet I see deformed babies, and people dying from prescription drug reactions all the time. It is a plant! A natural plant. It is not even a drug. There should be no laws about it one way or another. Do you see any laws about poison ivy? And yet that plant is poison. How about mandrake? That plant can kill a person. I don't see any laws against growing that plant. |
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I understand the concern based on its prevalent misuse or abuse,,and I also understand, medically, cutting back on operations that are strictly concerned with profit and not HEALTH at all...
as the laws are, I believe patients are permitted to grow and smoke their OWN,,the issues are just with the non patient/business owners who are dispensing to patients and possibly others,,,, |
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Edited by
Kleisto
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Sat 10/08/11 11:51 PM
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I understand the concern based on its prevalent misuse or abuse,,and I also understand, medically, cutting back on operations that are strictly concerned with profit and not HEALTH at all... Number one, it should NOT be the state's responsibility to take care of us. We need to go back to personal responsibility, what happens to you, you are responsible for be it or good bad. By banning or regulating things like this, you allow them to take said responsibility away from you. I'd much rather live in a society where I had the freedom to make choices with regards to what goes into or what doesn't go into my body, not a society where I have none. This is where we are heading, if not where we already are at now, the more we let government into our lives. Number two by the medical definition, we should be cutting back on the operations of the major drug companies then, cause they whether you wanna think they care or not, are NOT about health, and basically entirely about profit. Don't see them slowing down or being held back much though do you? So until they actually practice what they preach to that end, they are hypocrites. They are looking at the proverbial log in our eye, while still having one in theirs. If that were to change I might take that second point more seriously, but as long it is the same, they will not get any respect from me. |
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I understand the concern based on its prevalent misuse or abuse,,and I also understand, medically, cutting back on operations that are strictly concerned with profit and not HEALTH at all... Number one, it should NOT be the state's responsibility to take care of us. We need to go back to personal responsibility, what happens to you, you are responsible for be it or good bad. By banning or regulating things like this, you allow them to take said responsibility away from you. I'd much rather live in a society where I had the freedom to make choices with regards to what goes into or what doesn't go into my body, not a society where I have none. This is where we are heading, if not where we already are at now, the more we let government into our lives. Number two by the medical definition, we should be cutting back on the operations of the major drug companies then, cause they whether you wanna think they care or not, are NOT about health, and basically entirely about profit. Don't see them slowing down or being held back much though do you? So until they actually practice what they preach to that end, they are hypocrites. They are looking at the proverbial log in our eye, while still having one in theirs. If that were to change I might take that second point more seriously, but as long it is the same, they will not get any respect from me. I disagree, government is of the people BY the people and FOR the people in other words we are government and they represent us and our interests sometimes what WE do to 'ourself' has enough potential to harmfully affect others that just leaving us to our 'own' consequences is not reality,, the consequences are not just OUR OWN when we endanger others,,, I understand the reasons behind prohibition of certain substances as 'casual drugs' , I also believe more criminals are made from prohibition in many situations I dont know if raising prohibition on alcohol actually decreased crime, or just VIOLENT and INTENTIONAL crime,,,perhaps we will never know,, but I wont flaw the government for wanting the same safety in our environments as they have in theirs,,, |
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I understand the concern based on its prevalent misuse or abuse,,and I also understand, medically, cutting back on operations that are strictly concerned with profit and not HEALTH at all... Number one, it should NOT be the state's responsibility to take care of us. We need to go back to personal responsibility, what happens to you, you are responsible for be it or good bad. By banning or regulating things like this, you allow them to take said responsibility away from you. I'd much rather live in a society where I had the freedom to make choices with regards to what goes into or what doesn't go into my body, not a society where I have none. This is where we are heading, if not where we already are at now, the more we let government into our lives. Number two by the medical definition, we should be cutting back on the operations of the major drug companies then, cause they whether you wanna think they care or not, are NOT about health, and basically entirely about profit. Don't see them slowing down or being held back much though do you? So until they actually practice what they preach to that end, they are hypocrites. They are looking at the proverbial log in our eye, while still having one in theirs. If that were to change I might take that second point more seriously, but as long it is the same, they will not get any respect from me. I disagree, government is of the people BY the people and FOR the people in other words we are government and they represent us and our interests sometimes what WE do to 'ourself' has enough potential to harmfully affect others that just leaving us to our 'own' consequences is not reality,, the consequences are not just OUR OWN when we endanger others,,, I understand the reasons behind prohibition of certain substances as 'casual drugs' , I also believe more criminals are made from prohibition in many situations I dont know if raising prohibition on alcohol actually decreased crime, or just VIOLENT and INTENTIONAL crime,,,perhaps we will never know,, but I wont flaw the government for wanting the same safety in our environments as they have in theirs,,, Firstly, they are SUPPOSED to serve our interests. Keyword SUPPOSED, but as it is now they really don't. You can disagree with that all you want, but it will not change the fact that we do not have the voice that we believe that we have. Number two, while sure that sounds good, much of what they pass has very little to do with the consequences and everything to do with controlling us, see all the regulations on raw dairy as an example of that. They will always always use supposed consequences to get what they want. Happens all the time, they wish to scare us enough to where we'll give in to their demands out of fear. More often then not, it works, see the war on terror. Lastly, they really do not have our safety at heart, if they did things would not be in the mess they are. If they truly cared about safety, we wouldn't have all the junk that passes for food in our food, big corporations wouldn't get a pass to do almost anything they want with no consequences, etc etc. Their actions and their words don't match, period. |
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I disagree, government is of the people BY the people and FOR the people
in other words we are government and they represent us and our interests If only that were always true. Sometimes its not, sometimes it is. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Sun 10/09/11 12:13 AM
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But I will have to say that in this country we are pampered a lot more than people who live in the third world.
We should also count our blessings. And we should also learn to take responsibility for ourselves and not scream and cry for the government to do something. You would probably find a lot more to complain about if you lived in a different country. I see a lot of great government programs helping people here that you will not find in other countries. |
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Problem is that can go the other way too, to where it makes people depend on them also and unable to function without them. I think that's part of their purpose honestly. That way when the gravy train runs out and it will, people won't know what to do. Then the state will step in and dictate further. So it's win/win, control them now, and later both.
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