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Topic: medical-marijuana outlets to close in 45 days
msharmony's photo
Sun 10/09/11 12:46 AM

But I will have to say that in this country we are pampered a lot more than people who live in the third world.

We should also count our blessings. And we should also learn to take responsibility for ourselves and not scream and cry for the government to do something.

You would probably find a lot more to complain about if you lived in a different country.

I see a lot of great government programs helping people here that you will not find in other countries.









with this I agree. No system is perfect, and greed puts alot of bumps in ours, but I still believe in the basic foundation of it and just hope we can strain the greed out a bit better...

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Sun 10/09/11 10:23 AM

Problem is that can go the other way too, to where it makes people depend on them also and unable to function without them. I think that's part of their purpose honestly. That way when the gravy train runs out and it will, people won't know what to do. Then the state will step in and dictate further. So it's win/win, control them now, and later both.


Yes that is a huge problem.

People need to strive to be more independent. Hard to do in this society.

You can't even buy a loaf of bread if the electricity is down more than 20 minutes.

adj4u's photo
Sun 10/09/11 10:50 AM
Edited by adj4u on Sun 10/09/11 10:51 AM



Sen. Obama has publicly promised to end the federal raids on state medical marijuana patients and their caregivers. Sen. Obama also voted against an amendment in the U.S. Senate that was intended to undermine state medical marijuana laws.


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On July 21, 2007 at a town hall meeting in Manchester, New Hampshire, a GSMM staffer asked Sen. Obama if he would end the raids. Sen. Obama replied: "The Justice Department going after sick individuals using this as a palliative instead of going after serious criminals makes no sense."

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On August 21, during a campaign event in Nashua, New Hampshire, Sen. Obama was asked by GSMM volunteer and seriously ill Nashua resident Scott Turner if he would end the federal raids on medical marijuana patients like him. Sen. Obama replied: "I would not have the Justice Department prosecuting and raiding medical marijuana users. It's not a good use of our resources.

http://granitestaters.com/candidates/barack_obama.html

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so much for those campaign renderings



This doesn't have anything to do with Obama as usual.

The shops have to follow the state and local laws to stay open and if they do not the feds will close them or raid them.

These dispensaries did not follow the laws.



what part of

The Treasury Department is now forcing banks in Colorado to close accounts of medical marijuana businesses operating legally under state law.

has to do with illegality of outlets it says operating legally under state law.

and obama is in charge of the justice department so yes it is obama the only investigations he has no control over are those involving him or his friends or family

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Sun 10/09/11 11:33 AM
Your money is not safe in the bank.

I've had companies keep my debit card number, and share it with their "affiliates" and then use it to sign me up for their stupid monthly programs without my consent.

I've had scammers lie and trick my mother into giving them her bank account number. Nobody can catch these scammers. You can't trace their phone numbers, the FBI is not interested, the phone company can't do anything except change your phone number.

I had to change two of my mom's bank account numbers, her phone number and pay to have it unlisted to protect her money in the bank.

If the grid goes down, the bank can't give you your money. If a scammer sends an fake electronic check through your bank it goes through automatically. They don't even look twice at it.

Money is no longer safe in your bank.

I only keep a minimum amount of money in one bank to pay some bills. I closed my other accounts.

The government can close your accounts. Fake judgments with forged papers can take all your money from your bank.

People used to put money in the bank for safe keeping. It's NOT SAFE.


adj4u's photo
Sun 10/09/11 05:58 PM



Jeanniebean i agree 100% and keep very little in the fed reserve system

i have seen too many accounts of people i know frozen just on the say so of someone making false accusations....then when unfrozen finally not even as much as an apoligy nor a name of where the accusations came from

so much for the right too face your accuser

adj4u's photo
Sun 10/09/11 06:04 PM
Edited by adj4u on Sun 10/09/11 06:07 PM




Sen. Obama has publicly promised to end the federal raids on state medical marijuana patients and their caregivers. Sen. Obama also voted against an amendment in the U.S. Senate that was intended to undermine state medical marijuana laws.


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On July 21, 2007 at a town hall meeting in Manchester, New Hampshire, a GSMM staffer asked Sen. Obama if he would end the raids. Sen. Obama replied: "The Justice Department going after sick individuals using this as a palliative instead of going after serious criminals makes no sense."

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On August 21, during a campaign event in Nashua, New Hampshire, Sen. Obama was asked by GSMM volunteer and seriously ill Nashua resident Scott Turner if he would end the federal raids on medical marijuana patients like him. Sen. Obama replied: "I would not have the Justice Department prosecuting and raiding medical marijuana users. It's not a good use of our resources.

http://granitestaters.com/candidates/barack_obama.html

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so much for those campaign renderings



This doesn't have anything to do with Obama as usual.

The shops have to follow the state and local laws to stay open and if they do not the feds will close them or raid them.

These dispensaries did not follow the laws.



what part of

The Treasury Department is now forcing banks in Colorado to close accounts of medical marijuana businesses operating legally under state law.

has to do with illegality of outlets it says operating legally under state law.

and obama is in charge of the justice department so yes it is obama the only investigations he has no control over are those involving him or his friends or family


original associated press post

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Original post: The Obama administration has ordered all medical-marijuana dispensaries in California to shut down within 45 days or they will be prosecuted and have their property confiscated for violating federal drugs laws, the Associated Press reports.

Even licensed outlets operating under the 1996 voter-approved medical-marijuana law are subject to the federal crackdown.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/10/feds-order-all-calif-medical-marijuana-outlets-to-close/1

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what part of.......

Obama administration has ordered all medical-marijuana dispensaries in California to shut down within 45 days...

says only the ones breaking state law

Even licensed outlets operating under the 1996 voter-approved medical-marijuana law are subject to the federal crackdown.

so much for only ones breaking state law


ALL IS ALL and OBAMA IS IN CHARGE

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/09/11 07:11 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 10/09/11 07:12 PM
interesting trivia

1. The president's closest advisors work with him in the Executive Office


2. The president is not the general of the Executive office with individuals who unfailingly obey his orders. The departments of the Executive office are meant to provide the president with speedy and simple responses to questions asked to it.

3. Top officials in the executive branch, generally referred to as “the administration,” are appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate

4. The President uses his Executive Office agencies to supervise their budgets, their legislative requests to Congress, and the regulations they make and enforce.


Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/executive-government#ixzz1aLCJbiOK

Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/executive-government#ixzz1aLC80MQM


so does this mean congress isnt very good at 'vetting' either?

Ladylid2012's photo
Mon 10/10/11 05:26 PM
This is a step backwards and VERY dissapointing!!!!

I sure hope Oregon isn't next!

adj4u's photo
Mon 10/24/11 02:28 PM

interesting trivia

1. The president's closest advisors work with him in the Executive Office


2. The president is not the general of the Executive office with individuals who unfailingly obey his orders. The departments of the Executive office are meant to provide the president with speedy and simple responses to questions asked to it.

3. Top officials in the executive branch, generally referred to as “the administration,” are appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate

4. The President uses his Executive Office agencies to supervise their budgets, their legislative requests to Congress, and the regulations they make and enforce.


Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/executive-government#ixzz1aLCJbiOK

Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/executive-government#ixzz1aLC80MQM


so does this mean congress isnt very good at 'vetting' either?



so are you saying it is someone he appointed and not him

does he not have control enough of his appointees to stop them

can he not fire them or ask for their resignation

yes it is obama either by his actions or his inactions

fakey's photo
Tue 10/25/11 06:00 AM
The Western 'democracies' wont even let its own people evoke an agreed upon cultural change on a localized level that is within the boundaries of their laws.
Egyptians overthrew their repressive leaders via techno and social media means realativly peacefully. Be inspired.
We all sit back and whine about it rather be proactive. Brain washed apathy! What can you do? Someone else will do something about it while i watch more brainwashing TV. How far would you go to stand up? You wont, brain washed fear of consequence! I might get jailed...lose my income...thus my brainwashed materialistic world would crumble.
I loath the direction my western government is taking me but I've been brainwashed to be selfish and put my own needs first so i'll help the cause.......one day.

If you did show some spine and fought back what would you be(a) a freedom fighter or (b) a terrorist threat to home land security?
Neither......you'd be incarcerated!

no photo
Tue 10/25/11 11:29 AM
Wait.... does anyone on mingle think this is 'a good thing'?

I'm definitely not a fan of pot, and I'd love to see fewer people smoking weed - but I find this federal action offensive.

willing2's photo
Tue 10/25/11 07:05 PM
This is actually kind of funny.Seems Oblowme is selective about Federal Laws he deems worthy of enforcement.

Most all Californians know and the Libs always use the line, Federal Law trumps State Law.

As with weed, States need the right to enforce their own laws.

If a state wants to push weed, great.

If a State wants to deport Illegals, they should be left to do it.

Don't you libs agree?

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Tue 10/25/11 10:22 PM

If a state wants to push weed, great.
If a State wants to deport Illegals, they should be left to do it.

Don't you ... agree?


Yes and no.

As far as deporting illegals - sometimes libs try to make what is actually a straightforward issue of enforcing existing laws into a dramatic 'humans rights' issue. Sometimes they are right to do so, but usually they are reacting to their perception of racism.

In extreme cases of obvious violations of human rights, I think its okay for the federal government to step in - but deporting illegals isn't always a human rights issue.

I also think the feds should be able to step in and investigate police misconduct - I don't trust local authorities to police their own, nor even the state government.



adj4u's photo
Thu 10/27/11 01:14 PM

This is actually kind of funny.Seems Oblowme is selective about Federal Laws he deems worthy of enforcement.

Most all Californians know and the Libs always use the line, Federal Law trumps State Law.

As with weed, States need the right to enforce their own laws.

If a state wants to push weed, great.

If a State wants to deport Illegals, they should be left to do it.

Don't you libs agree?


Most all Californians know and the Libs always use the line, Federal Law trumps State Law.

the problem is that is an inaccurate statement--legally--the constitution is supposed to trump all laws and the constitution says-----
""""Amendment 10 - Powers of the States and People. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."""""

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

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where in the federal or even state constitution does it say the fed or state govt can control what anybody puts in their body thus it should be the decision of the individual


teadipper's photo
Fri 10/28/11 08:59 AM
Everybody assumes that this is weed weed for smoking or ingesting. If you actually know people who have medical marijuana cards there is much more to it than that. I used to massage a Vietnam vet who had MD. He had marijuana paste and cream called ground owl which is a bunch of different whipped oils and a little dab of marijuana but it's actually a carrier for using the marijuana paste which is like wasabi looking. You take the tiniest dab of marijuana paste and then work it in with the ground owl. The sad thing is this is only available at these shops. It works better than anything you have ever tried. I would massage him for up to 3 hours and knock this guy with PTSD out cold and I can tell you it does work and I feel it should be available to nurses and such who work all day with their hands because I could give a 3 hour massage which only a small portion had to do with the marijuana paste and have ZERO pain in my hands afterwards. Not so much as a cramp. The tragic part about this is your can score weed weed at Joe's next door. You cannot just score marijuana paste concentrate or ground owl. That is really the tragedy is product like that are not available to those in pain.

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