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Roberta, it was a coincidence--nothing more, nothing less!
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Roberta, it was a coincidence--nothing more, nothing less! Bless you! 
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There are no coincidences and no accidents. Everything happens from cause and frequency.
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There are no coincidences and no accidents. Everything happens from cause and frequency. |
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There are no coincidences and no accidents. Everything happens from cause and frequency.  
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There are no coincidences and no accidents. Everything happens from cause and frequency. And I trust my Mother--she gives me guidance. She says that your experience was a coincidence. |
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There are no coincidences and no accidents. Everything happens from cause and frequency. I agree! I'm very happy for your experience, Roberta.
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Edited by
Gwendolyn2009
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Thu 09/08/11 09:54 PM
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There are no coincidences and no accidents. Everything happens from cause and frequency. Reactions to actions and consequences for actions--I will agree with that. However, this means that a miracle is not a miracle but a reaction in a line of actions. It is amazing what people will consider a "miracle." More logical people stand back and say, "Hmm . . . I bet it is because . . ." My mother found a dime while walking and put it in her pocket. When she got home and changed clothes, the dime had disappeared. She was standing in the kitchen and heard "kaching" on the kitchen floor--she looked down to see her dime. She insisted that it was a miracle and that god gave her dime back to her. I suggested that maybe she had a hole in her pocket and the dime stuck to her skin or slid down inside her sock. Nope, it was a miracle. |
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There are no coincidences and no accidents. Everything happens from cause and frequency. Reactions to actions and consequences for actions--I will agree with that. However, this means that a miracle is not a miracle but a reaction in a line of actions. It is amazing what people will consider a "miracle." More logical people stand back and say, "Hmm . . . I bet it is because . . ." My mother found a dime while walking and put it in her pocket. When she got home and changed clothes, the dime had disappeared. She was standing in the kitchen and heard "kaching" on the kitchen floor--she looked down to see her dime. She insisted that it was a miracle and that god gave her dime back to her. I suggested that maybe she had a hole in her pocket and the dime stuck to her skin or slid down inside her sock. Nope, it was a miracle. that situation seems much more reasonable(considering she already HAD the dime at some point), than miraculous Robertas, seems much more random and more fitting of what I consider 'miraculous' |
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Roberta had a "once in a lifetime experience where she sees the world differently". In human experience, we have come to define such moments as miracles. Some say miracles don't exist. Some say miracles are magic. It's all in the definition.
Billions of years ago, the theory goes, a planet the size of Mars smashed into Earth at just the right speed and angle to splash off a huge chunk which formed the Moon. The Moon stabilized the orbit of the Earth which in turn led to a stable climate for life to exist as we see it. Any scientist will tell you that the odds against something like that happening are enormous, in fact, too enormous to calculate. Only Roberta knows what happened to Roberta. If she says it is a miracle, only she knows the true context of what she means. She is the only expert! 
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Edited by
luv2roknroll
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Fri 09/09/11 06:26 AM
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There are no coincidences and no accidents. Everything happens from cause and frequency. And I trust my Mother--she gives me guidance. She says that your experience was a coincidence. And as I stated before, I am not the kind of person who says,"Hey, that fly landed on my arm, because God wanted to give me a sign of his existance". My testimonies are much more substantial then that! But as ive also said before,"everyone has the freedom to believe whatever he or she wants to have faith in", and if your religion works for you, im happy for you. I know mine works for me. Thats a problem, I do see with Cowboy and Abra here.They need to just "live and let live" more, and stop trying so hard to change each others beliefs, cause thats not going to happen. And I suspect since Cowboy is so kind, and caring, that hes afraid that if he doesnt convert Abra, before Abra passes, he will not be saved, and be given eternal life in Heaven. To Cowboy and Abra: If you both believe you are safe in your beliefs, and have an entirely different interpretation of the bible, so be it, and continue believing the way you want to. Both of you have that right.And neither of you is right or wrong! Quit trying to change each other, and AGREE TO DISAGREE!Than you can come here and praise Jesus, instead of arguing about him. Unless you both REALLY think one of you is gonna change the other, or you enjoy it. I personally would not waste my time or energy talking to someone who sees ONE WAY and ONE WAY ONLY, with no room for any other explanation. Thats a losing battle, and one that will go on forever, because when it comes to religion, people stand by their beliefs, VERY FIRMLY! So give that a try, ok? AGREE TO DISAGREE, with no disrespect for each others beliefs, believe what you will, and talk about something more fruitful, that is, unless you enjoy this neverending battle. If thats the case, carry on, carry on. You are free to do what you want in these forums, im not the boss, merely making a suggestion, that I hope you both will "at least" consider. God bless all
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There are no coincidences and no accidents. Everything happens from cause and frequency. I agree! I'm very happy for your experience, Roberta. Bless you, Ruth!
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Edited by
luv2roknroll
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Fri 09/09/11 06:33 AM
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There are no coincidences and no accidents. Everything happens from cause and frequency. Reactions to actions and consequences for actions--I will agree with that. However, this means that a miracle is not a miracle but a reaction in a line of actions. It is amazing what people will consider a "miracle." More logical people stand back and say, "Hmm . . . I bet it is because . . ." My mother found a dime while walking and put it in her pocket. When she got home and changed clothes, the dime had disappeared. She was standing in the kitchen and heard "kaching" on the kitchen floor--she looked down to see her dime. She insisted that it was a miracle and that god gave her dime back to her. I suggested that maybe she had a hole in her pocket and the dime stuck to her skin or slid down inside her sock. Nope, it was a miracle. Bless you
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There are no coincidences and no accidents. Everything happens from cause and frequency. Reactions to actions and consequences for actions--I will agree with that. However, this means that a miracle is not a miracle but a reaction in a line of actions. It is amazing what people will consider a "miracle." More logical people stand back and say, "Hmm . . . I bet it is because . . ." My mother found a dime while walking and put it in her pocket. When she got home and changed clothes, the dime had disappeared. She was standing in the kitchen and heard "kaching" on the kitchen floor--she looked down to see her dime. She insisted that it was a miracle and that god gave her dime back to her. I suggested that maybe she had a hole in her pocket and the dime stuck to her skin or slid down inside her sock. Nope, it was a miracle. that situation seems much more reasonable(considering she already HAD the dime at some point), than miraculous Robertas, seems much more random and more fitting of what I consider 'miraculous' Bless you
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Edited by
luv2roknroll
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Fri 09/09/11 06:56 AM
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Roberta had a "once in a lifetime experience where she sees the world differently". In human experience, we have come to define such moments as miracles. Some say miracles don't exist. Some say miracles are magic. It's all in the definition. Billions of years ago, the theory goes, a planet the size of Mars smashed into Earth at just the right speed and angle to splash off a huge chunk which formed the Moon. The Moon stabilized the orbit of the Earth which in turn led to a stable climate for life to exist as we see it. Any scientist will tell you that the odds against something like that happening are enormous, in fact, too enormous to calculate. Only Roberta knows what happened to Roberta. If she says it is a miracle, only she knows the true context of what she means. She is the only expert! It was MY miracle indeed, and I will enjoy thinking about it, until the next one comes. Like I said before,I have ALOT of testimony, so this is just one more experience to add to them. And I dont know why, but I just HAD to share it! Maybe because God wanted me to share it, so I would come to these forms, and at least try to restore some praise in here, and rid this forum of some of the arguing. But I wont try to change anyone, and I respect everyones right to believe what they want to believe, and this is an open forum. I can only believe that some of you like this way of expressing yourself, I personally would rather see you shake, hands, accept eachothers beliefs, even if you think them wrong, and AGREE TO DISAGREE! Than we can sing here.......... Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound,  That saved a wretch like me. I once was lost but now am found, Was blind, but now I see. T'was Grace that taught my heart to fear. And Grace, my fears relieved. How precious did that Grace appear The hour I first believed. Through many dangers, toils and snares I have already come; 'Tis Grace that brought me safe thus far and Grace will lead me home. The Lord has promised good to me. His word my hope secures. He will my shield and portion be, As long as life endures. Yea, when this flesh and heart shall fail, And mortal life shall cease, I shall possess within the veil, A life of joy and peace. When we've been here ten thousand years Bright shining as the sun. We've no less days to sing God's praise Than when we've first begun. Amen! Now we should all sing a song that symbolizes Abras beliefs, or the beliefs of Gwendolyn, or others. Then we can all share each others glory! And isnt that what the purpose, of just about ANY religion really is? Loving, caring, worshiping, praising, believing, caring, sharing, faith, and joy, for ALL of us? God bless
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Thats a problem, I do see with Cowboy and Abra here.They need to just "live and let live" more, and stop trying so hard to change each others beliefs, cause thats not going to happen. And I suspect since Cowboy is so kind, and caring, that hes afraid that if he doesnt convert Abra, before Abra passes, he will not be saved, and be given eternal life in Heaven. To Cowboy and Abra: If you both believe you are safe in your beliefs, and have an entirely different interpretation of the bible, so be it, and continue believing the way you want to. Both of you have that right.And neither of you is right or wrong! Quit trying to change each other, and AGREE TO DISAGREE!Than you can come here and praise Jesus, instead of arguing about him. Unless you both REALLY think one of you is gonna change the other, or you enjoy it. I personally would not waste my time or energy talking to someone who sees ONE WAY and ONE WAY ONLY, with no room for any other explanation. Thats a losing battle, and one that will go on forever, because when it comes to religion, people stand by their beliefs, VERY FIRMLY! Ahhhh....words of wisdom. Of course, they will not be heeded, but it is refreshing to hear them.  |
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Edited by
luv2roknroll
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Fri 09/09/11 07:02 AM
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Thats a problem, I do see with Cowboy and Abra here.They need to just "live and let live" more, and stop trying so hard to change each others beliefs, cause thats not going to happen. And I suspect since Cowboy is so kind, and caring, that hes afraid that if he doesnt convert Abra, before Abra passes, he will not be saved, and be given eternal life in Heaven. To Cowboy and Abra: If you both believe you are safe in your beliefs, and have an entirely different interpretation of the bible, so be it, and continue believing the way you want to. Both of you have that right.And neither of you is right or wrong! Quit trying to change each other, and AGREE TO DISAGREE!Than you can come here and praise Jesus, instead of arguing about him. Unless you both REALLY think one of you is gonna change the other, or you enjoy it. I personally would not waste my time or energy talking to someone who sees ONE WAY and ONE WAY ONLY, with no room for any other explanation. Thats a losing battle, and one that will go on forever, because when it comes to religion, people stand by their beliefs, VERY FIRMLY! Ahhhh....words of wisdom. Of course, they will not be heeded, but it is refreshing to hear them. Im like a child. I see things more clearly because I have not learned prejudice, and this child never will! |
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Thats a problem, I do see with Cowboy and Abra here.They need to just "live and let live" more, and stop trying so hard to change each others beliefs, cause thats not going to happen. And I suspect since Cowboy is so kind, and caring, that hes afraid that if he doesnt convert Abra, before Abra passes, he will not be saved, and be given eternal life in Heaven. To Cowboy and Abra: If you both believe you are safe in your beliefs, and have an entirely different interpretation of the bible, so be it, and continue believing the way you want to. Both of you have that right.And neither of you is right or wrong! Quit trying to change each other, and AGREE TO DISAGREE!Than you can come here and praise Jesus, instead of arguing about him. Unless you both REALLY think one of you is gonna change the other, or you enjoy it. I personally would not waste my time or energy talking to someone who sees ONE WAY and ONE WAY ONLY, with no room for any other explanation. Thats a losing battle, and one that will go on forever, because when it comes to religion, people stand by their beliefs, VERY FIRMLY! Ahhhh....words of wisdom. Of course, they will not be heeded, but it is refreshing to hear them. Im like a child. I see things more clearly because I have not learned prejudice, and this child never will! Amen luv, praise the lord!! |
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Thats a problem, I do see with Cowboy and Abra here.They need to just "live and let live" more, and stop trying so hard to change each others beliefs, cause thats not going to happen. And I suspect since Cowboy is so kind, and caring, that hes afraid that if he doesnt convert Abra, before Abra passes, he will not be saved, and be given eternal life in Heaven. To Cowboy and Abra: If you both believe you are safe in your beliefs, and have an entirely different interpretation of the bible, so be it, and continue believing the way you want to. Both of you have that right.And neither of you is right or wrong! Quit trying to change each other, and AGREE TO DISAGREE!Than you can come here and praise Jesus, instead of arguing about him. Unless you both REALLY think one of you is gonna change the other, or you enjoy it. I personally would not waste my time or energy talking to someone who sees ONE WAY and ONE WAY ONLY, with no room for any other explanation. Thats a losing battle, and one that will go on forever, because when it comes to religion, people stand by their beliefs, VERY FIRMLY! Ahhhh....words of wisdom. Of course, they will not be heeded, but it is refreshing to hear them. Im like a child. I see things more clearly because I have not learned prejudice, and this child never will! Amen luv, praise the lord!!
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Edited by
luv2roknroll
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Fri 09/09/11 04:42 PM
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Here we go again. MORE TESTIMONY TODAY!
 Today I was making a tribute thread for someone, that included several pictures by a certain artist. Right in the middle of it, someone posted some words, that had NOTHING to do with the subject matter. I emailed them and politely asked them if they could change the post, to suit the subject matter, because the thread was like a gift. They told me no problem, and changed the words they had written. Heres the good part, when I went back to the thread to see what they had done, they had posted THE EXACT SAME PICTURE, that I had uploaded to my computer, but had forgot to post in the tribute! And there were 100's of photos by the artist, (I sent him to Google) that he could have picked! Him and I had not talked about the tribute thread, the artist, or anything pertaining to the artist, until I emailed him, and told him only to please, post something having to do with the artist. Nothing that would have given him any inclination, of what to post in place of his words! He could of used a quote, a picture of the artist, a picture by the artist, some facts about the art or the artist, ANYTHING! I specified nothing,I only asked, that it was related in some way, with the thread content. May I add, that I am a perfectionist!!!So much so, that I have even been called "Anally retentive" because of it. I read my threads over,and over, checking punctuation, or spelling, usually twice before I post them, and once after, to check for any possible mistakes. How I missed posting that picture, is NOT AT ALL SOMETHING I WOULD EVER DO! I check, and recheck, and recheck my work! ALWAYS. If I dont have the time to do it that way, I dont do it, at all! When I went back over the thread, the first time, I felt like something wasent quite right, but I couldnt put my finger on it. What had happened is, I had saved the image to my computer, but failed to upload it to my "Photobucket", so when I posted the pictures, I did in fact, post all of the artists pictures, that were in my Photobucket! Then he changes his post for me, that said something about, "beautiful woman", and he changes it to THAT EXACT picture, that I had somehow, not uploaded to my "Photobucket" account! And im tellen ya, I take all measures possible, to make no mistakes, on everything. I was always told,"any job worth doing, is worth doing right", and I live that way! I am a perfectionist, and if something isnt EXACTLY perfect, that ive done, I beat myself up over it!  Notice my thread here: with all my checking and rechecking, I STILL have to edit it, maybe just for a comma, or a period!  Once again, I believe my father was watching over me with care, and knew how upset I would be, for not having that picture in my gift thread, and would be unable to add it later.So he did it for me, through my friend!Remember, his post was inside my tribute thread, so I had already ended the tribute, and couldnt add more pictures, at that point. Thank you Jesus, for correcting my mistake before it was too late. I love you soooooooooooo much!You are always there, watching over me, this I know, and will never dispute. I have too much testimony, and faith in you, my caring father! Praise Jesus, praise the Lord! Now what? |
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