lol you have a very cute personality :).

I try to be nice sometimes. Thanks.

You missed her point completely. At a certain point a parent has to let go of a child and let them make of their life what they will make of it with the tools given to them. But apparently your God doesn't or isn't willing to do that because it doesn't allow for that.

On top that, even if you don't masturbate, in guys at least you will eventually have what is called "wet dreams" or nocturnal emissions, to release the excess sperm building up. Unless you wanna say that's bad too.

One way or the other our bodies were designed in such a way that a release like this would be required. Like it or not that is the facts.

Yep, that's what I meant but I think it went way over his head.

I think in short, God's "will" is that we love, and make of our lives what we want to in short. Everything has a purpose and a meaning for it's existence in the universe. There are no coincidences nor mistakes.

Here's my take on it. In my personal experience, if you try to stop doing something because others around you are pushing you not to do it, whether they be parents, friends or in your view God, you are doomed to fail. Reason being, you are not doing it because you actually want to, but rather because you feel you have no choice. The feelings will not go away, nor will your desire to act on them. Inevitably you WILL falter for this reason, leading to guilt and shame for having done it but being unable to stop. It's a vicious cycle.

I know, I went through this for YEARS with regards to sex and masturbation. I always feared God's wrath for lust, dying in sin, etc etc etc. I would try and try and try to ignore the urges when they came up, but I never did I would fail every time I tried. I was still FOCUSING on the desire, because I still wanted it. The desire to change was not of my own will, but was because of what I perceived would happen if I did not.

It was only when I left religion entirely and realized God was not gonna smite me if I chose to beat off to be blunt about it, that all that guilt and shame I had went away. I realized my urges were ok, they were normal and healthy. Now how I use them may not always be the best, but the difference now is, I have the CHOICE to make for myself as to what I want to do with them at a given time. There is no pressure put on me one way or the other. If I want to act I am free to do that, and if I don't I am free to do that too. There are no eternal consequences riding on the choice.

That fact makes all the difference in changing or not. If someone wants to change, they will do it on their own when they are ready, and if they decide they don't they won't. Forcing a change won't do any good, but this in essence is what religion does here particularly with regards to sex, and it's why it fails.

People need to know they have choices, be them good, bad or somewhere in the middle, not just be told they can't do something no matter what. That won't do a bit of good except make them think about what they aren't supposed to do all the more.