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Edited by
missyfissy
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Thu 09/08/11 07:14 PM
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If you don't accept evolution why is that? Also, if you do, especially for a Christian how does that coincide with original sin (considering there would be no need for Adam and Eve)? Also that would dismantle the need for Jesus to die on the cross. Thanks for the responses to come. Because there has never been concrete proof of it. That's why Darwin's "theory" is just called theory. Besides, if we have evolved, why are there still flies around? I don't think I'll live long enough for them to turn into apes. |
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If y'all are so smart why??!! Did we Stop evoving.. Because we never started in the first place. There are many areas in which I believe the octupus, the dolphin, and even many animals may actually be smarter than humans. |
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If y'all are so smart why??!! Did we Stop evoving.. Because we never started in the first place. There are many areas in which I believe the octupus, the dolphin, and even many animals may actually be smarter than humans. Yeh, the octopus is amazing. |
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If y'all are so smart why??!! Did we Stop evoving.. Because we never started in the first place. There are many areas in which I believe the octupus, the dolphin, and even many animals may actually be smarter than humans. Rarely does someone argue against evolution, while also demonstrating an understanding of it. |
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If y'all are so smart why??!! Did we Stop evoving.. Because we never started in the first place. There are many areas in which I believe the octupus, the dolphin, and even many animals may actually be smarter than humans. Rarely does someone argue against evolution, while also demonstrating an understanding of it. I think that could be said about ANYTHING. |
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Edited by
mykesorrel
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Fri 09/09/11 08:04 AM
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when people say it is "just a theory" that alone tells me they don't know about evolution or a scientific theory. I find it even more ironic considering these are the same people who believe a man in the sky is intervening everything and have zero evidence. I feel if you're going to be a skeptic about evolution, be a skeptic about everything.
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Edited by
massagetrade
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Fri 09/09/11 08:58 AM
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when people say it is "just a theory" that alone tells me they don't know about evolution or a scientific theory. Seriously. Rarely does someone argue against evolution, while also demonstrating an understanding of it. I think that could be said about ANYTHING. Umm... interesting. I would agree that most argument against something is done with some degree of ignorance, because most discourse of any kind seems to occur with some degree of ignorance. As a society, we don't have the sense to limit our opinionated approach to discussions and arguments of topics we understand. Evolution is different than many topics, though. So many religious people are so heavily invested in 'disbelieving' evolution, and there is an entire, large, community of people telling each other lies about the nature of the theory of evolution. I've seen a lot of debate on a lot of topics - in which we find both well informed people, and ignorant people, on both sides. But its just so rare to see a well-informed person argue against evolution. The vast majority of anti-evolution comments made on this board immediately reveal that the speaker doesn't really understand evolution... and yet they feel qualified to make sweeping criticisms of it. |
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Edited by
metalwing
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Fri 09/09/11 09:41 AM
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when people say it is "just a theory" that alone tells me they don't know about evolution or a scientific theory. Seriously. Rarely does someone argue against evolution, while also demonstrating an understanding of it. I think that could be said about ANYTHING. Umm... interesting. I would agree that most argument against something is done with some degree of ignorance, because most discourse of any kind seems to occur with some degree of ignorance. As a society, we don't have the sense to limit our opinionated approach to discussions and arguments of topics we understand. Evolution is different than many topics, though. So many religious people are so heavily invested in 'disbelieving' evolution, and there is an entire, large, community of people telling each other lies about the nature of the theory of evolution. I've seen a lot of debate on a lot of topics - in which we find both well informed people, and ignorant people, on both sides. But its just so rare to see a well-informed person argue against evolution. The vast majority of anti-evolution comments made on this board immediately reveal that the speaker doesn't really understand evolution... and yet they feel qualified to make sweeping criticisms of it. Perhaps you are looking at evolution from the wrong perspective? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc78_YkOXm8&NR=1 The 23 million year interval! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4C4HZvAf5I&feature=related |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Fri 09/09/11 12:30 PM
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"Negative experiences will repeat for as long as they remain useful to you." ~David Wilcox.
That means the same as the saying "Those who don't learn from history are bound to repeat it." If you don't learn from your mistakes, you will keep making the same mistake over and over. I've experienced this many times. |
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when people say it is "just a theory" that alone tells me they don't know about evolution or a scientific theory. Seriously. Rarely does someone argue against evolution, while also demonstrating an understanding of it. I think that could be said about ANYTHING. Umm... interesting. I would agree that most argument against something is done with some degree of ignorance, because most discourse of any kind seems to occur with some degree of ignorance. As a society, we don't have the sense to limit our opinionated approach to discussions and arguments of topics we understand. Evolution is different than many topics, though. So many religious people are so heavily invested in 'disbelieving' evolution, and there is an entire, large, community of people telling each other lies about the nature of the theory of evolution. I've seen a lot of debate on a lot of topics - in which we find both well informed people, and ignorant people, on both sides. But its just so rare to see a well-informed person argue against evolution. The vast majority of anti-evolution comments made on this board immediately reveal that the speaker doesn't really understand evolution... and yet they feel qualified to make sweeping criticisms of it. Perhaps you are looking at evolution from the wrong perspective? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc78_YkOXm8&NR=1 The 23 million year interval! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4C4HZvAf5I&feature=related I can't watch youtube on this computer. Are those some of those rare examples of informed people arguing against evolution? I've seen it, but always against some narrow interpretation of the theory of evolution... never against the basic idea that we are descended from other primates. |
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when people say it is "just a theory" that alone tells me they don't know about evolution or a scientific theory. Seriously. Rarely does someone argue against evolution, while also demonstrating an understanding of it. I think that could be said about ANYTHING. Umm... interesting. I would agree that most argument against something is done with some degree of ignorance, because most discourse of any kind seems to occur with some degree of ignorance. As a society, we don't have the sense to limit our opinionated approach to discussions and arguments of topics we understand. Evolution is different than many topics, though. So many religious people are so heavily invested in 'disbelieving' evolution, and there is an entire, large, community of people telling each other lies about the nature of the theory of evolution. I've seen a lot of debate on a lot of topics - in which we find both well informed people, and ignorant people, on both sides. But its just so rare to see a well-informed person argue against evolution. The vast majority of anti-evolution comments made on this board immediately reveal that the speaker doesn't really understand evolution... and yet they feel qualified to make sweeping criticisms of it. Perhaps you are looking at evolution from the wrong perspective? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc78_YkOXm8&NR=1 The 23 million year interval! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4C4HZvAf5I&feature=related I can't watch youtube on this computer. Are those some of those rare examples of informed people arguing against evolution? I've seen it, but always against some narrow interpretation of the theory of evolution... never against the basic idea that we are descended from other primates. I was able to pull up the titles, not the videos... I'm guessing that was a joke? |
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when people say it is "just a theory" that alone tells me they don't know about evolution or a scientific theory. Seriously. Rarely does someone argue against evolution, while also demonstrating an understanding of it. I think that could be said about ANYTHING. Umm... interesting. I would agree that most argument against something is done with some degree of ignorance, because most discourse of any kind seems to occur with some degree of ignorance. As a society, we don't have the sense to limit our opinionated approach to discussions and arguments of topics we understand. Evolution is different than many topics, though. So many religious people are so heavily invested in 'disbelieving' evolution, and there is an entire, large, community of people telling each other lies about the nature of the theory of evolution. I've seen a lot of debate on a lot of topics - in which we find both well informed people, and ignorant people, on both sides. But its just so rare to see a well-informed person argue against evolution. The vast majority of anti-evolution comments made on this board immediately reveal that the speaker doesn't really understand evolution... and yet they feel qualified to make sweeping criticisms of it. Perhaps you are looking at evolution from the wrong perspective? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc78_YkOXm8&NR=1 The 23 million year interval! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4C4HZvAf5I&feature=related I can't watch youtube on this computer. Are those some of those rare examples of informed people arguing against evolution? I've seen it, but always against some narrow interpretation of the theory of evolution... never against the basic idea that we are descended from other primates. I was able to pull up the titles, not the videos... I'm guessing that was a joke? Would I do that? 
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when people say it is "just a theory" that alone tells me they don't know about evolution or a scientific theory. Seriously. Rarely does someone argue against evolution, while also demonstrating an understanding of it. I think that could be said about ANYTHING. Umm... interesting. I would agree that most argument against something is done with some degree of ignorance, because most discourse of any kind seems to occur with some degree of ignorance. As a society, we don't have the sense to limit our opinionated approach to discussions and arguments of topics we understand. Evolution is different than many topics, though. So many religious people are so heavily invested in 'disbelieving' evolution, and there is an entire, large, community of people telling each other lies about the nature of the theory of evolution. I've seen a lot of debate on a lot of topics - in which we find both well informed people, and ignorant people, on both sides. But its just so rare to see a well-informed person argue against evolution. The vast majority of anti-evolution comments made on this board immediately reveal that the speaker doesn't really understand evolution... and yet they feel qualified to make sweeping criticisms of it. Perhaps you are looking at evolution from the wrong perspective? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc78_YkOXm8&NR=1 The 23 million year interval! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4C4HZvAf5I&feature=related I can't watch youtube on this computer. Are those some of those rare examples of informed people arguing against evolution? I've seen it, but always against some narrow interpretation of the theory of evolution... never against the basic idea that we are descended from other primates. I was able to pull up the titles, not the videos... I'm guessing that was a joke? Would I do that? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc78_YkOXm8&NR=1 OMG that was so painful to watch. my head hurts from hearing so much ******** in such a short time. If people want to believe in fairies or leprechauns or magical beings, that's one thing... but to completely abuse scientific ideas and terms they way they do in that video... its a testament to the failure of science education that so many people 'liked' that video. |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc78_YkOXm8&NR=1 OMG that was so painful to watch. my head hurts from hearing so much ******** in such a short time. If people want to believe in fairies or leprechauns or magical beings, that's one thing... but to completely abuse scientific ideas and terms they way they do in that video... its a testament to the failure of science education that so many people 'liked' that video. Wait, so this guy is like a celebrity? And has a following? I thought he was just a wing nut giving a speech with friends who do awesome video editing. I guess that makes sense. We're always having charismatic nonsense-preachers who bubble up through the capitalist 'inspirational speaker' industry and achieve notoriety with their books and sermons and what-have-you. |
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Edited by
mykesorrel
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Fri 09/09/11 05:15 PM
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Mass check this out, what i found very interesting is the guy who is catholic i believe, accepts evolution wholeheartedly, but i warn you, your ears may bleed of such nonsense:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2f_CZsXbyk |
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I totally believe in evolution, but not from an atheist position.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc78_YkOXm8&NR=1 OMG that was so painful to watch. my head hurts from hearing so much ******** in such a short time. If people want to believe in fairies or leprechauns or magical beings, that's one thing... but to completely abuse scientific ideas and terms they way they do in that video... its a testament to the failure of science education that so many people 'liked' that video. Wait, so this guy is like a celebrity? And has a following? I thought he was just a wing nut giving a speech with friends who do awesome video editing. I guess that makes sense. We're always having charismatic nonsense-preachers who bubble up through the capitalist 'inspirational speaker' industry and achieve notoriety with their books and sermons and what-have-you. You mentioned ignorance as a reason but you left out greed. |
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I totally believe in evolution, but not from an atheist position. Atheist position? |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc78_YkOXm8&NR=1 OMG that was so painful to watch. my head hurts from hearing so much ******** in such a short time. If people want to believe in fairies or leprechauns or magical beings, that's one thing... but to completely abuse scientific ideas and terms they way they do in that video... its a testament to the failure of science education that so many people 'liked' that video. Wait, so this guy is like a celebrity? And has a following? I thought he was just a wing nut giving a speech with friends who do awesome video editing. I guess that makes sense. We're always having charismatic nonsense-preachers who bubble up through the capitalist 'inspirational speaker' industry and achieve notoriety with their books and sermons and what-have-you. I was actually surprised you didn't have more to say about him earlier in the thread. This is the guy who said a beam of energy could change a chicken egg into a duck, etc. The second video I posted is even "better". This dude is a source of information that (apparently) many people believe. It was sourced on this thread. |
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