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Fri 07/22/11 12:24 PM
The alleged "war on terror" is propaganda.

Before that it was "The war on drugs." Also propaganda.

Did the "war on drugs" give us the license to invade the homes of suspected drug dealers and kill them?

Nope.


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Fri 07/22/11 12:33 PM
The following is a list of attacks which have been allegedly carried out by Al-Qaeda.


The important word in this statement is "allegedly."

Propaganda.

Every time anyone attacks anyone it is blamed on the mythical alleged terrorist network of Al-Qaeda.

Al-Qaeda is an imaginary enemy just like the war on drugs was an imaginary enemy.

By the way, who won that war? Nobody. Drugs are more rampant than ever.

This mythical "war on terror" against the mythical "Al-Qaeda" will be milked to death until the hate campaign against Islam becomes another Holocaust.

People are being brainwashed into being anti-Islamic just like Hitler brain washed people to be anti-Semitic. Compare the two. They are the same Method of operation.

When are you going to stop letting them tell you who you are supposed to hate? When are you going to stop believing their lies?

Wake up people.




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Fri 07/22/11 12:44 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Fri 07/22/11 12:45 PM


Although I don't believe in assassinations as a positive form of anything. I would prefer then to the supposed "military actions" we are involved in now.

They should have done this for Hitler, Saddam etc... since we are capable.

It would have saved millions of lives, innocent lives of women and children. It would have saved peoples property and keepsakes.

So although I don't approve of assassinations, they prove more effective then war.


It is not appropriate in this context to distinguish between killing
the head of your opposing military force and the killing of any
other officer or soldier.

It is war. If you can take out the highest ranking officers then it
is the best strategy to do so as early in the conflict as possible
and disrupt planning and tactics of the opposing forces.

So - it is not assassination. This is a misnomer.

Otherwise this is quite correct. More lives could have been saved
by a better military strategy and better execution.




War is not "appropriate" so that is an odd word to use in defense of warring strategy.

Jeinnie as for Iraq, I agree, it was an illegal action that was misrepresented meaning it was a war crime essentially.

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Fri 07/22/11 12:48 PM

The alleged "war on terror" is propaganda.

Before that it was "The war on drugs." Also propaganda.

Did the "war on drugs" give us the license to invade the homes of suspected drug dealers and kill them?

Nope.





actually, yes,,lol

several americans have lost their lives in their homes to armed police officers there to 'bring in' a suspect,,,

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Fri 07/22/11 12:50 PM
Assignation is not "appropriate."

Having a conscience is apparently not appropriate.

Saying that what they did was WRONG, ILLEGAL AND IMMORAL is apparently not appropriate.


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Fri 07/22/11 12:52 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 07/22/11 12:53 PM


The alleged "war on terror" is propaganda.

Before that it was "The war on drugs." Also propaganda.

Did the "war on drugs" give us the license to invade the homes of suspected drug dealers and kill them?

Nope.





actually, yes,,lol

several americans have lost their lives in their homes to armed police officers there to 'bring in' a suspect,,,


I'm sure they still had to have probable cause to break into their house.

But NO, is does not give them licence to break into a home of a suspected drug dealer... without probable cause and kill him.
They at least have to have a warrant.

That they did it illegally and lied, is another matter.


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Fri 07/22/11 12:53 PM
live by the sword, die by the sword

if OSama believed in a life for a life, which he often said he did, than he died as he lived and that is just,,,,

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Fri 07/22/11 12:57 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 07/22/11 12:58 PM

live by the sword, die by the sword

if OSama believed in a life for a life, which he often said he did, than he died as he lived and that is just,,,,


The manner in which they assassinated him was illegal, whether you feel it was "just" or "Godly" karma or not.

Osama was a spiritual leader of his faith. He fought the war against drugs by burning opium fields. This cut into the world currency, and pissed off some powerful drug dealers, as drugs and guns are currency in this world. Powerful people did not like what he was doing.

Most of the demand for those drugs comes from America. Americans want their drugs. The CIA financed their black ops by drug dealing and gun sales.








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Fri 07/22/11 12:58 PM


live by the sword, die by the sword

if OSama believed in a life for a life, which he often said he did, than he died as he lived and that is just,,,,


The manner in which they assassinated him was illegal, whether you feel it was "just" or "Godly" karma or not.

Osama was a spiritual leader of his faith. He fought the war against drugs by burning opium fields. This cut into the world currency, and pissed of some powerful drug dealers, as drugs and guns are currency in this world. Powerful people did not like what he was doing.

Most of the demand for those drugs comes from America. Americans want their drugs.









even still, if Pakistan has not sought legal repurcussion, I suppose all is well,,,



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Fri 07/22/11 01:03 PM



live by the sword, die by the sword

if OSama believed in a life for a life, which he often said he did, than he died as he lived and that is just,,,,


The manner in which they assassinated him was illegal, whether you feel it was "just" or "Godly" karma or not.

Osama was a spiritual leader of his faith. He fought the war against drugs by burning opium fields. This cut into the world currency, and pissed of some powerful drug dealers, as drugs and guns are currency in this world. Powerful people did not like what he was doing.

Most of the demand for those drugs comes from America. Americans want their drugs.









even still, if Pakistan has not sought legal repurcussion, I suppose all is well,,,





Pakistan is not powerful enough to seek legal repercussions. Threats, bribery, mysterious deaths go on all the time behind the scenes.

All is well?
Yes of course it is.......
Karma always comes back around eventually.


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Fri 07/22/11 01:05 PM




live by the sword, die by the sword

if OSama believed in a life for a life, which he often said he did, than he died as he lived and that is just,,,,


The manner in which they assassinated him was illegal, whether you feel it was "just" or "Godly" karma or not.

Osama was a spiritual leader of his faith. He fought the war against drugs by burning opium fields. This cut into the world currency, and pissed of some powerful drug dealers, as drugs and guns are currency in this world. Powerful people did not like what he was doing.

Most of the demand for those drugs comes from America. Americans want their drugs.









even still, if Pakistan has not sought legal repurcussion, I suppose all is well,,,





Pakistan is not powerful enough to seek legal repercussions. Threats, bribery, mysterious deaths go on all the time behind the scenes.

All is well?
Yes of course it is.......
Karma always comes back around eventually.




on this we agree

it is why I think OSama is dead

and why the Pakistans arent making too much of a fuss because a deep investigation would shine light on their complicity and perhaps participatin in abetting terrorists,,,,

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Fri 07/22/11 01:54 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 07/22/11 02:02 PM





live by the sword, die by the sword

if OSama believed in a life for a life, which he often said he did, than he died as he lived and that is just,,,,


The manner in which they assassinated him was illegal, whether you feel it was "just" or "Godly" karma or not.

Osama was a spiritual leader of his faith. He fought the war against drugs by burning opium fields. This cut into the world currency, and pissed of some powerful drug dealers, as drugs and guns are currency in this world. Powerful people did not like what he was doing.

Most of the demand for those drugs comes from America. Americans want their drugs.









even still, if Pakistan has not sought legal repurcussion, I suppose all is well,,,





Pakistan is not powerful enough to seek legal repercussions. Threats, bribery, mysterious deaths go on all the time behind the scenes.

All is well?
Yes of course it is.......
Karma always comes back around eventually.




on this we agree

it is why I think OSama is dead

and why the Pakistans arent making too much of a fuss because a deep investigation would shine light on their complicity and perhaps participatin in abetting terrorists,,,,


Let me tell you about that. Pakistan is Israel's target. Israel is not so innocent as they pretend to be. They are always stirring up trouble with their neighbors. "Someone" trains terrorists, and those terrorists kill people and then Pakistan (or whoever) is accused and blamed. This kind of stuff goes on all the time to give governments an excuse to bomb and invade another country or to start another war.

This happened in Old Mexico and two "terrorists" who were caught bombing a building turned out to be Israeli Mossad. Their freedom was purchased (bribed) and only a small amount of media coverage was released. The rest of it was hushed up. Their plot (whatever it was) was foiled. The incident was hushed up.

When a trained group puts on hoods and commits acts of terrorism, there is no telling who they are working for. They are paid to do a job. They work for money.

Back to Pakistan: Any resistance they muster against their unfriendly neighbor Israel will be labeled "terrorism." And what does that do for them? It means open season on invading, bombing and assassinating any one of them.

I blame the world bank and the Illuminati. They start wars so they can globalize the world, steal all the wealth, put everyone in debt.

They pay for wars, they train terrorists on both sides. They lend money and sell guns to both sides of all conflicts.

It just business to them.






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Fri 07/22/11 02:02 PM






live by the sword, die by the sword

if OSama believed in a life for a life, which he often said he did, than he died as he lived and that is just,,,,


The manner in which they assassinated him was illegal, whether you feel it was "just" or "Godly" karma or not.

Osama was a spiritual leader of his faith. He fought the war against drugs by burning opium fields. This cut into the world currency, and pissed of some powerful drug dealers, as drugs and guns are currency in this world. Powerful people did not like what he was doing.

Most of the demand for those drugs comes from America. Americans want their drugs.









even still, if Pakistan has not sought legal repurcussion, I suppose all is well,,,





Pakistan is not powerful enough to seek legal repercussions. Threats, bribery, mysterious deaths go on all the time behind the scenes.

All is well?
Yes of course it is.......
Karma always comes back around eventually.




on this we agree

it is why I think OSama is dead

and why the Pakistans arent making too much of a fuss because a deep investigation would shine light on their complicity and perhaps participatin in abetting terrorists,,,,


Let me tell you about that. Pakistan is Israel's target. Israel is not so innocent as they pretend to be. They are always stirring up trouble with their neighbors. "Someone" trains terrorists, and those terrorists kill people and then Pakistan (or whoever) is accused and blamed. This kind of stuff goes on all the time to give governments an excuse to bomb and invade another country or to start another war.

This happened in Old Mexico and two "terrorists" who were caught bombing a building turned out to be Israeli Mossad. Their freedom was purchased (bribed) and only a small amount of media coverage was released. The rest of it was hushed up. Their plot (whatever it was) was foiled. The incident was hushed up.

When a trained group puts on hoods and commits acts of terrorism, there is no telling who they are working for. They are paid to do a job. They work for money.

Back to Pakistan: Any resistance they muster against their unfriendly neighbor Israel will be labeled "terrorism." And what does that do for them? It means open season on invading, bombing and assassinating any one of them.







ok. Pakistan and Israel arent friendly.

I still think an investigation would show that Pakistan was complicit and possibly participating in harboring a terrorist fugitive,,,,



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Fri 07/22/11 02:05 PM
Its hard to know what goes on in the world. There are so many lies and so much propaganda.

I still feel that I can tell right action from wrong action.

I don't soft soap wrong actions like assassinations to ease my conscience. I am an American. I want America to be the good guys.

I'm not seeing that.

Its very sad.


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Fri 07/22/11 02:11 PM

Its hard to know what goes on in the world. There are so many lies and so much propaganda.

I still feel that I can tell right action from wrong action.

I don't soft soap wrong actions like assassinations to ease my conscience. I am an American. I want America to be the good guys.

I'm not seeing that.

Its very sad.





I understand that an I believe you are sincere in your belief and it comes from a good place. I am also sincere, and I come from a good place.


We can agree to disagree.

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Fri 07/22/11 02:13 PM


Its hard to know what goes on in the world. There are so many lies and so much propaganda.

I still feel that I can tell right action from wrong action.

I don't soft soap wrong actions like assassinations to ease my conscience. I am an American. I want America to be the good guys.

I'm not seeing that.

Its very sad.





I understand that an I believe you are sincere in your belief and it comes from a good place. I am also sincere, and I come from a good place.


We can agree to disagree.


So you are saying that you support and condone the policy of political assassination? I just want to get this strait.


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Fri 07/22/11 02:24 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 07/22/11 02:30 PM
Actually I'm not sure if it was in the Bible or not, but the suggestion that I have always lived by in being able to tell good from evil, or the good guy from the bad guys is to "know them by their deeds."

The line between the good guys and the bad guys has been getting more obscure, even in the "Death wish" movies it started out with John Kersy only shooting people who were actively engaged in committing a violent crime to the last few movies where he just shot anyone he thought deserved it.

In the movie "Tombstone" Wyatt Earp chased down and shot anyone wearing a red bandanna. It was basically all out war. But even in those two movie examples, neither of the heroes in the story invaded their enemy's home in the dead of night armed to the teeth and murdered everyone in the house.

So, even in the movies they had lines they would not cross. (and still be considered the "good guys.")

Truth is indeed stranger than fiction.

So are we still "The Good guys?"

Or shall we resign ourselves to the realization that Jessie Pinkman had in the series "Breaking Bad" that we are the bad guys now?






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Fri 07/22/11 02:43 PM
Edited by JOHNN111 on Fri 07/22/11 02:44 PM
I don't know JeannieBean, Osama Bin CrabFood was not a player in world politics He led a life of war (Soviets then U.S.A) I don't think it's fair to label him a "political target"? as much as a sewer rat?

He had his reasons for hating the Russians... -They invaded Afghanistan
He had his reasons for hating America... -Blind support for Israel

He was a thug with LOTS and LOTS of money. A stateless actor rejected by his homeland, Yemen and the Saudis. Sheltered only by "turn coat" Pakistan.

He got exactly what he deserved.... And to be honest, So did the Pakistanis

So far, I don't see any seal teams going into Libya to take out Quadaffi. It's not as common as you think or maybe more common than I think when we include Israeli assassinations? Cheers

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Fri 07/22/11 02:47 PM

I don't know JeannieBean, Osama Bin CrabFood was not a player in world politics He led a life of war (Soviets then U.S.A) I don't think it's fair to label him a "political target"? as much as a sewer rat?

He had his reasons for hating the Russians... -They invaded Afghanistan
He had his reasons for hating America... -Blind support for Israel

He was a thug with LOTS and LOTS of money. A stateless actor rejected by his homeland, Yemen and the Saudis. Sheltered only by "turn coat" Pakistan.

He got exactly what he deserved.... And to be honest, So did the Pakistanis

So far, I don't see any seal teams going into Libya to take out Quadaffi. It's not as common as you think or maybe more common than I think when we include Israeli assassinations? Cheers


Crabfood...lol

You know if only it was this cut and dried.

I am not a big conspiracy theorist but I do know that we utilized Osama when we wanted to. Same with Saddam.

Dirty hands, dirty hands....

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Fri 07/22/11 02:47 PM


"We knew nothing" from Pakistan. Precision targeting of high ranking enemy during a armed conflict is not assassination, it is military action.


wrong... obama broke several laws here - murder, invading a foreign country, airspace laws... what if a country came into the US and did the same thing without our governments knowledge? and then brag to the world about it? The obama lies have gotten out of hand and brainwashed you people... now you can't even tell when laws are broken...



Tsk tsk

Misquotes, selective quotes are used enough to spread crap. What I said was:

With a token "We knew nothing" from Pakistan. Precision targeting of high ranking enemy during a armed conflict is not assassination, it is military action.


Pakistan was aware of what was happening and of US operations within their borders regarding counter-terror operations. Pakistan has not complain too loudly about the operation because they knew it was coming and aided.