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Cowboy wrote: He doesn't have the same sense of "righteousness". His sense of righteousness is far greater then anyone could ever imagine having. Well, if his sense of righteous is far greater than my sense of righteousness, then he could never do things that I would consider to be unrighteous. So my point still stands. Moreover, if you are suggesting than God could have a sense of righteousness that is lesser than mine, then you have done two things: 1. You have placed God's sense of righteousness beneath mine. 2. You have guaranteed that I cannot even trust God to be as righteous as me. ~~~~ I realize this is hard for you to comprehend. But if you are going to suggest to me that your God is "righteous" and expect that to have any meaning to me at all, then clearly you are going to have to accept my understanding of what it means to be "righteous". Otherwise, your claim to have a "righteous" God is utterly meaningless to me. You may as well tell me that whatever Satan decides to do is "righteous" because, by definition, that's what YOU mean by "righteousness" when you refer to your God. You claim: His sense of righteousness is far greater then anyone could ever imagine having. Well, this God clearly thought it was "righteous" to command his followers to murder heathens, their wives and BABIES! That far beneath what I can imagine as being "righteous" already. This God clearly thought it was WISE to have his son nailed to a pole so he could forgive people of their sins. Again, that's far beneath what I can imagine as being "righteous". So this God already has a track-record of doing things that are far beneath what I can imagine being "righteous". So clearly there's a major flaw in this religion. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Which is precisely what you must do if you want to continue to support these ancient Zeus-like fables. You just sweep everything under the carpet and pretend that it could make sense if you just pretend that anything that this God does is "righteous". I'm not willing to pretend, like you do. If I'm going to pretend I may as well believe in Peter Pan and Tinker Bell and Never-Never land. Why not? It makes just as much sense if you're willing to blindly believe it on FAITH. Maybe even more sense actually. At least that story isn't asking anyone to believe that a hateful jealous God who condemns people to eternal suffering and hell fire is "righteous".  In fact, one problem with believing that such a God is "righteous" is that it can lead people like Hitler to believe that putting heathens in fiery furnaces is indeed a "righteous" thing to do. I mean why not? If God, by example, thinks this is a 'righteous' thing to do then surely it must also be 'righteous' for humans to do it too. |
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Cowboy wrote: He doesn't have the same sense of "righteousness". His sense of righteousness is far greater then anyone could ever imagine having. Well, if his sense of righteous is far greater than my sense of righteousness, then he could never do things that I would consider to be unrighteous. So my point still stands. Moreover, if you are suggesting than God could have a sense of righteousness that is lesser than mine, then you have done two things: 1. You have placed God's sense of righteousness beneath mine. 2. You have guaranteed that I cannot even trust God to be as righteous as me. ~~~~ I realize this is hard for you to comprehend. But if you are going to suggest to me that your God is "righteous" and expect that to have any meaning to me at all, then clearly you are going to have to accept my understanding of what it means to be "righteous". Otherwise, your claim to have a "righteous" God is utterly meaningless to me. You may as well tell me that whatever Satan decides to do is "righteous" because, by definition, that's what YOU mean by "righteousness" when you refer to your God. You claim: His sense of righteousness is far greater then anyone could ever imagine having. Well, this God clearly thought it was "righteous" to command his followers to murder heathens, their wives and BABIES! That far beneath what I can imagine as being "righteous" already. This God clearly thought it was WISE to have his son nailed to a pole so he could forgive people of their sins. Again, that's far beneath what I can imagine as being "righteous". So this God already has a track-record of doing things that are far beneath what I can imagine being "righteous". So clearly there's a major flaw in this religion. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Which is precisely what you must do if you want to continue to support these ancient Zeus-like fables. You just sweep everything under the carpet and pretend that it could make sense if you just pretend that anything that this God does is "righteous". I'm not willing to pretend, like you do. If I'm going to pretend I may as well believe in Peter Pan and Tinker Bell and Never-Never land. Why not? It makes just as much sense if you're willing to blindly believe it on FAITH. Maybe even more sense actually. At least that story isn't asking anyone to believe that a hateful jealous God who condemns people to eternal suffering and hell fire is "righteous". In fact, one problem with believing that such a God is "righteous" is that it can lead people like Hitler to believe that putting heathens in fiery furnaces is indeed a "righteous" thing to do. I mean why not? If God, by example, thinks this is a 'righteous' thing to do then surely it must also be 'righteous' for humans to do it too. Well, this God clearly thought it was "righteous" to command his followers to murder heathens, their wives and BABIES! God has never done any such thing, why lie? |
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What does the rib being taken from Adam and free will have ANYTHING to do with one another? Cowboy....did God ask Adam if he wasn't to give his rib to create his child Eve...if the answer is no....then that is why Adam didn't have any "Free WIll" God taking one of Adam's ribs didn't cause Adam to do anything though. Again after again, free-will pertains to an action or a thought. God taking one of Adam's ribs did not restrict any action or thought or make Adam do an action or thought. Taking the rib effected Adam's free will not one bit. Cowboy...your definition of "Free Will" appears to be sort of vague so I decide to pull up one of your previous "Free Will" definitions POSTED BY COWBOY: That is all free will is, is the ability to choose what to do http://mingle2.com/topic/show/307199?page=2... post 11 so now Cowboy going with your definition of "Free Will"....did God give Adam a choice to choose what to do before God put him asleep and took his rib Again, the rib being taken out of Adam was not an action Adam took. He was not forced to take any action, therefore his free will was not taken away. nope...you said that Free Will was the ability to choose.....when did Adam get to choose to lose his rib? Choose as in choose to do something or not do something. The rib being taken out of Adam did not cause him to do an action or restrict him from doing an action. Therefore again, no free will was taken away. God put Adam to sleep so didn't God take away Adam's ability to choose? Not specifically. "Sleeping" is not an action one takes. One lays down to sleep, yes this is an action one takes, but one doesn't choose when they "fall" asleep. Adam didn't put himself to sleep, God was the one that put Adam to sleep beofre he took his rib.....you said that "Free Will" is the ability to choose .....so point out where Adam got to choose Adam wanted a mate and God gave him one. Adam wanting the mate permitted God to do what was needed to bring this to be. Adam didn't put any speculations on how he was to get this mate. nope...Adam didn't put himself to sleep the bible states that God put Adam to sleep,,,also the bible states nothing about Adam wanting a mate...Adam had no clue what a woman or a human mate was since none had been created yet so again....you said that "Free Will" is the ability to choose .....so point out where Adam got to choose to lose his rib Sure the bible states that Adam was lonely. Why else would God have known it not good for man to be alone? Why would it not have been good if it wasn't cause the man needed companionship. And again, would you rather be awake when God took a rib out? Or would you rather had been in a deep sleep where you didn't feel the pain? Same reason people are put to sleep in operations. 18And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. the passage you provide states what the Lord said...so far you have provide nothing about what Adam said pertaining to his choice of having or not having his rib taken out....... can you provide such a passage or not Why do you think the LORD would say such a thing if Adam didn't want a mate? The LORD knows what we want, regardless if we have publicly said it, said it to one other, or even said it at all. God knows our hearts. you keep telling about God's "Free Will"..I've ask you to provide a passage where Adam had the Free Will" to choose pertaining to his rib being taken out can you provide this passage or not ...if you can't ....then simply admit it Your body is not your own. Your body is the temple of God. It belongs to God, he can do with it what he wishes. He created it, so it is his privilege to change it, alter it, destroy it, renew it, or do whatever he wishes with it. 1 Corinthians 6:19-20 19What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. Cowboy,...you keep providing passages pertaining to God's "Free Will"... I'm not disputing that God has "Free WIll" ... I'm disputing that God gave "Free Will" to Adam pertaining to the taking of his rib and asked you to provide a passage where Adam had any choice in the matter ... so once again can you provide such a passage ....and if not....grow a pair and admit it What are you talking about? Nobody even mention "God's" free will. The taking of Adam's rib did not effect Adam's will one bit. It did not force him to do something, it did not restrict him from doing anything. Cowboy..I really would like to take your word on it but remember you are the guy that claimed that no babies drown in the great flood because God place them all on Noah's Ark .... so now that you understand why I'm hesistant to take your word on anything is the reason why I've asked you for a passage pertaining to Adam's choice on having his rib taken ....can you provide this passage or not? come on Cowboy....bird-dog it....admit that you can't... Already did. Adam's will was to have a mate, so God made him a mate. Adam did not say how this mate was to come about. you provided passages from God excerting his "Free Will"...I asked you for a passage where Adam excerted his "Free Will" pertaining to any choice of the taking of his rib so can you place a passage from Adam and not God thank you very much I did. In the verse posted, God seen it best for man to have a mate eg., the man's will was to have a mate. So God did according to the MAN's will and made him a mate. sorry Cowboy.,,..but Man does not have Will over God..and God does not bow down to man's Will...it's funny how I have to teach you this ...and this is why those passages you provide only applies to God's "Free Will" and now all you have to do is provide a passage where Adam has "Free Will' in the taking of his rib LoL!!! You're getting funnier Funches. No God doesn't have to bow down to man's will. NEVER said he did or even insinuated it But our God is a loving God. He loves us so much, he wishes for us to have what we need and what we want when we deserve it. He saw Adam was unhappy by himself, so he created a woman to be by his side. He could have left Adam all by himself if he would have wanted to. But Adam would have just continued to get more and more sad as time passed without someone to call his own. So again, God made him a partner in life. Cowboy...I didn't ask you for a sermon nor did I asked you anything about what God deem best for Adam... I've specifically asked you to provide a passage from Adam himself about any decision that he personally stated pertaining to the removal of his rib... |
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Cowboy...I didn't ask you for a sermon nor did I asked you anything about what God deem best for Adam... I've specifically asked you to provide a passage from Adam himself about any decision that he personally stated pertaining to the removal of his rib... But teacher, it wasn't a rib! Admit you don't know what it was or change the question...  |
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Cowboy...I didn't ask you for a sermon nor did I asked you anything about what God deem best for Adam... I've specifically asked you to provide a passage from Adam himself about any decision that he personally stated pertaining to the removal of his rib... But teacher, it wasn't a rib! Admit you don't know what it was or change the question... jeez...Peter_Pan....do any of you Christians read the bible......you guys have got to stop running to those Satan websites for your biblical updates..... but anyway the bible claim that it was a rib...but then again perhaps in Hebrew rib means Penis and God snatched off Adam's penis system and formed Eve...that would explain why Eve had the balls to bite the fruit first.... but the debate was whether or not if Adam had the "Free Will" to choose or make the decision which body part or if any body part be snatched off... my point being that no matter the case that any intervention by God automatically takes away "Free Will" which is why Man do not have "Free Will" and that only God has 'Free Will".. but so far it seems that Christians believe that it's ok to take off people's body parts without their permission as long as the person is not inconvenient by it and that such an action does not take away their "Free Will" |
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All Jesus was (if he actually existed)is a messiah for the poor poverty stricken Jews.They labeled him the messiah cause they got tired of waiting for one.
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 Enjoy your day don't over think it ok Carold I see your point...in the religion forum no one should be here over thinking |
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Cowboy...I didn't ask you for a sermon nor did I asked you anything about what God deem best for Adam... I've specifically asked you to provide a passage from Adam himself about any decision that he personally stated pertaining to the removal of his rib... But teacher, it wasn't a rib! Admit you don't know what it was or change the question... jeez...Peter_Pan....do any of you Christians read the bible......you guys have got to stop running to those Satan websites for your biblical updates..... but anyway the bible claim that it was a rib...but then again perhaps in Hebrew rib means Penis and God snatched off Adam's penis system and formed Eve...that would explain why Eve had the balls to bite the fruit first.... but the debate was whether or not if Adam had the "Free Will" to choose or make the decision which body part or if any body part be snatched off... my point being that no matter the case that any intervention by God automatically takes away "Free Will" which is why Man do not have "Free Will" and that only God has 'Free Will".. but so far it seems that Christians believe that it's ok to take off people's body parts without their permission as long as the person is not inconvenient by it and that such an action does not take away their "Free Will" but the debate was whether or not if Adam had the "Free Will" to choose or make the decision which body part or if any body part be snatched off And I have explain multiple times in here that the taking of Adam's rib didn't effect his free will one bit. Again, after again, it did not cause Adam to do anything, it did not restrict Adam from doing anything. Our bodies are not ours. 1 Corinthians 6:20 20For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. |
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Enjoy your day don't over think it ok Carold I see your point...in the religion forum no one should be here over thinking perhaps...but I would figure those that was so eager for love that they would hand over their life to a character that only read about in a book were the ones that didn't appreciate the life they are living now |
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Cowboy...I didn't ask you for a sermon nor did I asked you anything about what God deem best for Adam... I've specifically asked you to provide a passage from Adam himself about any decision that he personally stated pertaining to the removal of his rib... But teacher, it wasn't a rib! Admit you don't know what it was or change the question... jeez...Peter_Pan....do any of you Christians read the bible......you guys have got to stop running to those Satan websites for your biblical updates..... but anyway the bible claim that it was a rib...but then again perhaps in Hebrew rib means Penis and God snatched off Adam's penis system and formed Eve...that would explain why Eve had the balls to bite the fruit first.... but the debate was whether or not if Adam had the "Free Will" to choose or make the decision which body part or if any body part be snatched off... my point being that no matter the case that any intervention by God automatically takes away "Free Will" which is why Man do not have "Free Will" and that only God has 'Free Will".. but so far it seems that Christians believe that it's ok to take off people's body parts without their permission as long as the person is not inconvenient by it and that such an action does not take away their "Free Will" but the debate was whether or not if Adam had the "Free Will" to choose or make the decision which body part or if any body part be snatched off And I have explain multiple times in here that the taking of Adam's rib didn't effect his free will one bit. Again, after again, it did not cause Adam to do anything, it did not restrict Adam from doing anything. Our bodies are not ours. 1 Corinthians 6:20 20For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. Cowboy....Corinthians came after Genesis.. I've constantly asked for a passage before Adam's rib was taken out where Adam himself made a decision whether or not to have his Rib removed this would show that he has 'Free Will"... .. here's a hint...look in Genesis....find a passage before Adam's Rib was taken out |
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Enjoy your day don't over think it ok Carold I see your point...in the religion forum no one should be here over thinking perhaps...but I would figure those that was so eager for love that they would hand over their life to a character that only read about in a book were the ones that didn't appreciate the life they are living now No, it's not about just reading about him. You open your heart to God and he will reveal himself to you. Reading about God is merely the start. It's an every day walk with God after you open the possibility. It's not about appreciating your life or not appreciating it. I have had many tragedies in my life, and I wouldn't change one thing in my life for there was something to learn in everything that happened. |
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Cowboy...I didn't ask you for a sermon nor did I asked you anything about what God deem best for Adam... I've specifically asked you to provide a passage from Adam himself about any decision that he personally stated pertaining to the removal of his rib... But teacher, it wasn't a rib! Admit you don't know what it was or change the question... jeez...Peter_Pan....do any of you Christians read the bible......you guys have got to stop running to those Satan websites for your biblical updates..... but anyway the bible claim that it was a rib...but then again perhaps in Hebrew rib means Penis and God snatched off Adam's penis system and formed Eve...that would explain why Eve had the balls to bite the fruit first.... but the debate was whether or not if Adam had the "Free Will" to choose or make the decision which body part or if any body part be snatched off... my point being that no matter the case that any intervention by God automatically takes away "Free Will" which is why Man do not have "Free Will" and that only God has 'Free Will".. but so far it seems that Christians believe that it's ok to take off people's body parts without their permission as long as the person is not inconvenient by it and that such an action does not take away their "Free Will" but the debate was whether or not if Adam had the "Free Will" to choose or make the decision which body part or if any body part be snatched off And I have explain multiple times in here that the taking of Adam's rib didn't effect his free will one bit. Again, after again, it did not cause Adam to do anything, it did not restrict Adam from doing anything. Our bodies are not ours. 1 Corinthians 6:20 20For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. Cowboy....Corinthians came after Genesis.. I've constantly asked for a passage before Adam's rib was taken out where Adam himself made a decision whether or not to have his Rib removed this would show that he has 'Free Will"... .. here's a hint...look in Genesis....find a passage before Adam's Rib was taken out Genesis 2:22 22And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. The Corinthians verse was posted to show that our bodies are not ours, it belongs to God. This body is merely temporary. It is given to us to use while we are on Earth in this life time. |
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Cowboy...I didn't ask you for a sermon nor did I asked you anything about what God deem best for Adam... I've specifically asked you to provide a passage from Adam himself about any decision that he personally stated pertaining to the removal of his rib... But teacher, it wasn't a rib! Admit you don't know what it was or change the question... jeez...Peter_Pan....do any of you Christians read the bible......you guys have got to stop running to those Satan websites for your biblical updates..... but anyway the bible claim that it was a rib...but then again perhaps in Hebrew rib means Penis and God snatched off Adam's penis system and formed Eve...that would explain why Eve had the balls to bite the fruit first.... but the debate was whether or not if Adam had the "Free Will" to choose or make the decision which body part or if any body part be snatched off... my point being that no matter the case that any intervention by God automatically takes away "Free Will" which is why Man do not have "Free Will" and that only God has 'Free Will".. but so far it seems that Christians believe that it's ok to take off people's body parts without their permission as long as the person is not inconvenient by it and that such an action does not take away their "Free Will" but the debate was whether or not if Adam had the "Free Will" to choose or make the decision which body part or if any body part be snatched off And I have explain multiple times in here that the taking of Adam's rib didn't effect his free will one bit. Again, after again, it did not cause Adam to do anything, it did not restrict Adam from doing anything. Our bodies are not ours. 1 Corinthians 6:20 20For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. Cowboy....Corinthians came after Genesis.. I've constantly asked for a passage before Adam's rib was taken out where Adam himself made a decision whether or not to have his Rib removed this would show that he has 'Free Will"... .. here's a hint...look in Genesis....find a passage before Adam's Rib was taken out Genesis 2:22 22And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. The Corinthians verse was posted to show that our bodies are not ours, it belongs to God. This body is merely temporary. It is given to us to use while we are on Earth in this life time. One more time lol. The taking of Adam's rib did not effect his free will. It did not force him to do anything, it did not restrict him from doing anything. Our bodies are God's, he can do with them what he wishes. And it not effect our free will in any possible way. For again, free pertains to making an action or not. |
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Enjoy your day don't over think it ok Carold I see your point...in the religion forum no one should be here over thinking perhaps...but I would figure those that was so eager for love that they would hand over their life to a character that only read about in a book were the ones that didn't appreciate the life they are living now No, it's not about just reading about him. You open your heart to God and he will reveal himself to you. Reading about God is merely the start. It's an every day walk with God after you open the possibility. It's not about appreciating your life or not appreciating it. I have had many tragedies in my life, and I wouldn't change one thing in my life for there was something to learn in everything that happened. you're making my point...opening up your heart and giving you life over to to someone that you only read about in a book perhaps is a sign that you are not happy it's about the same as reading someone's pictureless Internet profile and giving your heart and life over to them |
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Cowboy...I didn't ask you for a sermon nor did I asked you anything about what God deem best for Adam... I've specifically asked you to provide a passage from Adam himself about any decision that he personally stated pertaining to the removal of his rib... But teacher, it wasn't a rib! Admit you don't know what it was or change the question... jeez...Peter_Pan....do any of you Christians read the bible......you guys have got to stop running to those Satan websites for your biblical updates..... but anyway the bible claim that it was a rib...but then again perhaps in Hebrew rib means Penis and God snatched off Adam's penis system and formed Eve...that would explain why Eve had the balls to bite the fruit first.... but the debate was whether or not if Adam had the "Free Will" to choose or make the decision which body part or if any body part be snatched off... my point being that no matter the case that any intervention by God automatically takes away "Free Will" which is why Man do not have "Free Will" and that only God has 'Free Will".. but so far it seems that Christians believe that it's ok to take off people's body parts without their permission as long as the person is not inconvenient by it and that such an action does not take away their "Free Will" but the debate was whether or not if Adam had the "Free Will" to choose or make the decision which body part or if any body part be snatched off And I have explain multiple times in here that the taking of Adam's rib didn't effect his free will one bit. Again, after again, it did not cause Adam to do anything, it did not restrict Adam from doing anything. Our bodies are not ours. 1 Corinthians 6:20 20For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. Cowboy....Corinthians came after Genesis.. I've constantly asked for a passage before Adam's rib was taken out where Adam himself made a decision whether or not to have his Rib removed this would show that he has 'Free Will"... .. here's a hint...look in Genesis....find a passage before Adam's Rib was taken out Genesis 2:22 22And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. The Corinthians verse was posted to show that our bodies are not ours, it belongs to God. This body is merely temporary. It is given to us to use while we are on Earth in this life time. One more time lol. The taking of Adam's rib did not effect his free will. It did not force him to do anything, it did not restrict him from doing anything. Our bodies are God's, he can do with them what he wishes. And it not effect our free will in any possible way. For again, free pertains to making an action or not. Cowboy...I didn't ask for one of your Satan website explanation...I asked for a passage from the bible from which Adam spoke play like jesus commanded you to find it |
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Enjoy your day don't over think it ok Carold I see your point...in the religion forum no one should be here over thinking perhaps...but I would figure those that was so eager for love that they would hand over their life to a character that only read about in a book were the ones that didn't appreciate the life they are living now No, it's not about just reading about him. You open your heart to God and he will reveal himself to you. Reading about God is merely the start. It's an every day walk with God after you open the possibility. It's not about appreciating your life or not appreciating it. I have had many tragedies in my life, and I wouldn't change one thing in my life for there was something to learn in everything that happened. you're making my point...opening up your heart and giving you life over to to someone that you only read about in a book perhaps is a sign that you are not happy it's about the same as reading someone's pictureless Internet profile and giving your heart and life over to them The giving the life over to someone's picture-less Internet profile is totally different then giving your life to God and is almost pointless and off topic funches. And giving your heart to God and giving your life is two totally different things. Once you give your heart to God, he will reveal himself to you. He will assure you in your decision. |
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Cowboy...I didn't ask you for a sermon nor did I asked you anything about what God deem best for Adam... I've specifically asked you to provide a passage from Adam himself about any decision that he personally stated pertaining to the removal of his rib... But teacher, it wasn't a rib! Admit you don't know what it was or change the question... jeez...Peter_Pan....do any of you Christians read the bible......you guys have got to stop running to those Satan websites for your biblical updates..... but anyway the bible claim that it was a rib...but then again perhaps in Hebrew rib means Penis and God snatched off Adam's penis system and formed Eve...that would explain why Eve had the balls to bite the fruit first.... but the debate was whether or not if Adam had the "Free Will" to choose or make the decision which body part or if any body part be snatched off... my point being that no matter the case that any intervention by God automatically takes away "Free Will" which is why Man do not have "Free Will" and that only God has 'Free Will".. but so far it seems that Christians believe that it's ok to take off people's body parts without their permission as long as the person is not inconvenient by it and that such an action does not take away their "Free Will" but the debate was whether or not if Adam had the "Free Will" to choose or make the decision which body part or if any body part be snatched off And I have explain multiple times in here that the taking of Adam's rib didn't effect his free will one bit. Again, after again, it did not cause Adam to do anything, it did not restrict Adam from doing anything. Our bodies are not ours. 1 Corinthians 6:20 20For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. Cowboy....Corinthians came after Genesis.. I've constantly asked for a passage before Adam's rib was taken out where Adam himself made a decision whether or not to have his Rib removed this would show that he has 'Free Will"... .. here's a hint...look in Genesis....find a passage before Adam's Rib was taken out Genesis 2:22 22And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. The Corinthians verse was posted to show that our bodies are not ours, it belongs to God. This body is merely temporary. It is given to us to use while we are on Earth in this life time. One more time lol. The taking of Adam's rib did not effect his free will. It did not force him to do anything, it did not restrict him from doing anything. Our bodies are God's, he can do with them what he wishes. And it not effect our free will in any possible way. For again, free pertains to making an action or not. Cowboy...I didn't ask for one of your Satan website explanation...I asked for a passage from the bible from which Adam spoke play like jesus commanded you to find it Your on a roll so early today, congratulations. For one that did not come from any website. For another, Adam didn't have to say anything. Our bodies are God's and he can do anything he wishes with them. |
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Enjoy your day don't over think it ok Carold I see your point...in the religion forum no one should be here over thinking perhaps...but I would figure those that was so eager for love that they would hand over their life to a character that only read about in a book were the ones that didn't appreciate the life they are living now No, it's not about just reading about him. You open your heart to God and he will reveal himself to you. Reading about God is merely the start. It's an every day walk with God after you open the possibility. It's not about appreciating your life or not appreciating it. I have had many tragedies in my life, and I wouldn't change one thing in my life for there was something to learn in everything that happened. you're making my point...opening up your heart and giving you life over to to someone that you only read about in a book perhaps is a sign that you are not happy it's about the same as reading someone's pictureless Internet profile and giving your heart and life over to them The giving the life over to someone's picture-less Internet profile is totally different then giving your life to God and is almost pointless and off topic funches. you never seen God in the bible just as you never seen the person on the internet .....the bible states that no man has seen God and live...that's about the same risk you have meeting someone off the internet that has no picture this is why if you have to hand over your life to anyone why would it not be to yourself.....you should always strive to be the one responsible for your life.....if you decide to give up your life it should be to save a life.... any other reason only proves that you are not happy with your life |
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Cowboy...I didn't ask you for a sermon nor did I asked you anything about what God deem best for Adam... I've specifically asked you to provide a passage from Adam himself about any decision that he personally stated pertaining to the removal of his rib... But teacher, it wasn't a rib! Admit you don't know what it was or change the question... jeez...Peter_Pan....do any of you Christians read the bible......you guys have got to stop running to those Satan websites for your biblical updates..... but anyway the bible claim that it was a rib...but then again perhaps in Hebrew rib means Penis and God snatched off Adam's penis system and formed Eve...that would explain why Eve had the balls to bite the fruit first.... but the debate was whether or not if Adam had the "Free Will" to choose or make the decision which body part or if any body part be snatched off... my point being that no matter the case that any intervention by God automatically takes away "Free Will" which is why Man do not have "Free Will" and that only God has 'Free Will".. but so far it seems that Christians believe that it's ok to take off people's body parts without their permission as long as the person is not inconvenient by it and that such an action does not take away their "Free Will" but the debate was whether or not if Adam had the "Free Will" to choose or make the decision which body part or if any body part be snatched off And I have explain multiple times in here that the taking of Adam's rib didn't effect his free will one bit. Again, after again, it did not cause Adam to do anything, it did not restrict Adam from doing anything. Our bodies are not ours. 1 Corinthians 6:20 20For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. Cowboy....Corinthians came after Genesis.. I've constantly asked for a passage before Adam's rib was taken out where Adam himself made a decision whether or not to have his Rib removed this would show that he has 'Free Will"... .. here's a hint...look in Genesis....find a passage before Adam's Rib was taken out Genesis 2:22 22And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. The Corinthians verse was posted to show that our bodies are not ours, it belongs to God. This body is merely temporary. It is given to us to use while we are on Earth in this life time. One more time lol. The taking of Adam's rib did not effect his free will. It did not force him to do anything, it did not restrict him from doing anything. Our bodies are God's, he can do with them what he wishes. And it not effect our free will in any possible way. For again, free pertains to making an action or not. Cowboy...I didn't ask for one of your Satan website explanation...I asked for a passage from the bible from which Adam spoke play like jesus commanded you to find it Your on a roll so early today, congratulations. For one that did not come from any website. For another, Adam didn't have to say anything. Our bodies are God's and he can do anything he wishes with them. and that my friend is why there is no "Free WIll" .....finally |
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Cowboy...I didn't ask you for a sermon nor did I asked you anything about what God deem best for Adam... I've specifically asked you to provide a passage from Adam himself about any decision that he personally stated pertaining to the removal of his rib... But teacher, it wasn't a rib! Admit you don't know what it was or change the question... jeez...Peter_Pan....do any of you Christians read the bible......you guys have got to stop running to those Satan websites for your biblical updates..... but anyway the bible claim that it was a rib...but then again perhaps in Hebrew rib means Penis and God snatched off Adam's penis system and formed Eve...that would explain why Eve had the balls to bite the fruit first.... but the debate was whether or not if Adam had the "Free Will" to choose or make the decision which body part or if any body part be snatched off... my point being that no matter the case that any intervention by God automatically takes away "Free Will" which is why Man do not have "Free Will" and that only God has 'Free Will".. but so far it seems that Christians believe that it's ok to take off people's body parts without their permission as long as the person is not inconvenient by it and that such an action does not take away their "Free Will" but the debate was whether or not if Adam had the "Free Will" to choose or make the decision which body part or if any body part be snatched off And I have explain multiple times in here that the taking of Adam's rib didn't effect his free will one bit. Again, after again, it did not cause Adam to do anything, it did not restrict Adam from doing anything. Our bodies are not ours. 1 Corinthians 6:20 20For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. Cowboy....Corinthians came after Genesis.. I've constantly asked for a passage before Adam's rib was taken out where Adam himself made a decision whether or not to have his Rib removed this would show that he has 'Free Will"... .. here's a hint...look in Genesis....find a passage before Adam's Rib was taken out Genesis 2:22 22And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. The Corinthians verse was posted to show that our bodies are not ours, it belongs to God. This body is merely temporary. It is given to us to use while we are on Earth in this life time. One more time lol. The taking of Adam's rib did not effect his free will. It did not force him to do anything, it did not restrict him from doing anything. Our bodies are God's, he can do with them what he wishes. And it not effect our free will in any possible way. For again, free pertains to making an action or not. Cowboy...I didn't ask for one of your Satan website explanation...I asked for a passage from the bible from which Adam spoke play like jesus commanded you to find it Your on a roll so early today, congratulations. For one that did not come from any website. For another, Adam didn't have to say anything. Our bodies are God's and he can do anything he wishes with them. and that my friend is why there is no "Free WIll" .....finally That has absolutely nothing to do with "Free Will". Free will means you can go to the store when you want, you can steal something if you wish, you can be honest, you can do AN ACTION. Your body is not yours. It has absolutely nothing to do with "Free Will", other then you making it do something or not do something. |
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