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Topic: Where in the Genesis is Jesus
CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 12/02/11 08:28 AM
]No he doesn't own you there is free will there is the choice to be with him or not. Still he never owns you. Carold...Cowboy stated and even pulled up passages which states that God can do anything he wanted to you at anytime ....so can you explain how this equate to him not owning you Because he has given us a free will. He has given us the choice to obey or not.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 12/02/11 08:29 AM
Exactly. We are not objects. God wants a relationship with us, he doesn't want to "own" us. yes he just give us commandments and threaten to toss you into the lake of fire for all eternity if you do not have a relationship with him ....but I guess you can go to court and get a restraining order for that What in the world? You sure you're reading the Holy Bible? God makes no threats about throwing anyone in any fire.

carold Joined Sun 03/23/08 Posts: 26747	Fri 12/02/11 08:30 AM
What are you talking about? How would you know no one has seen God and lived? Did they tell you? Cowboy...how could they tell me if they are dead ....you claimed that you walked with God....did you see him? I see God everyday. now describe God without sounding delusional God is great, he is loving, he is forgiving, he is omniscient, he is omnipotent, he is everywhere, he is God. I'm pretty sure that what's written on his Driver's License...but you claim to have seen him ....did you see his face? I see his face everywhere in everything. do he have horns? Do you think the devil really would have horns. When he comes in a pleasing form? where did I say that Satan had horns ...you guys are so programmed ....don't unicorns have horns...ooops that's right, I'm not sure if anyone ever seen a real unicorn either so true. I think you might think of him as what our God is. Where did the unicorns go?? With the flood?? perhaps God placed all the unicorns on Noah's Ark....I have to ask Cowboy first Your so bad. He has said he screwed up with that one

carold Joined Sun 03/23/08 Posts: 26747	Fri 12/02/11 08:32 AM
No. But God's created souls have turned away from him. Less they return, how would they belong to God? Cowboy..you just admitted that your soul belong to God when you answer "No" to my querstion if God created things that he do not own and this is why there is no Free Will...if God owns your body he owns your will because neither can function without the other You still trying to trip him up on this

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 12/02/11 08:32 AM
No, I'm merely relaying a message. I know nothing God hasn't told us all. you said that you walked with God ...I can imagine the conversation.... hey God yes Cowboy turn to water ice and steam all at the same time science is the work of Satan Cowboy ok sorry God yes Cowboy is Funches gong to hell Funches will sit on the left hand side of me so God i guess the answer is yes

carold Joined Sun 03/23/08 Posts: 26747	Fri 12/02/11 08:33 AM
]No he doesn't own you there is free will there is the choice to be with him or not. Still he never owns you. Carold...Cowboy stated and even pulled up passages which states that God can do anything he wanted to you at anytime ....so can you explain how this equate to him not owning you He could but he doesn't he wants you to want to be with him.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 12/02/11 08:35 AM
No. But God's created souls have turned away from him. Less they return, how would they belong to God? Cowboy..you just admitted that your soul belong to God when you answer "No" to my querstion if God created things that he do not own and this is why there is no Free Will...if God owns your body he owns your will because neither can function without the other You still trying to trip him up on this He's wrong any ways. You can be totally paralysed and still have a will. You can have lost your legs, and arms in some tragedy and still have a will. One's body and one's will are not one in the same. Heck, people change wills all the time, does that mean they have changed bodies?

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 12/02/11 08:35 AM
What are you talking about? How would you know no one has seen God and lived? Did they tell you? Cowboy...how could they tell me if they are dead ....you claimed that you walked with God....did you see him? I see God everyday. now describe God without sounding delusional God is great, he is loving, he is forgiving, he is omniscient, he is omnipotent, he is everywhere, he is God. I'm pretty sure that what's written on his Driver's License...but you claim to have seen him ....did you see his face? I see his face everywhere in everything. do he have horns? no. He is absolutely beautiful. so that either means that you lied when you claim that you see God's face everywhere or that you never seen horns before....which is it I see God everywhere in everything. except horns ......see how you lie What? What in the world are you talking about? What horns? In goat horns? Yeah I see God in goat horns, for it is a creation of God. but do you see God in all horns?

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 12/02/11 08:37 AM
No, I'm merely relaying a message. I know nothing God hasn't told us all. you said that you walked with God ...I can imagine the conversation.... hey God yes Cowboy turn to water ice and steam all at the same time science is the work of Satan Cowboy ok sorry God yes Cowboy is Funches gong to hell Funches will sit on the left hand side of me so God i guess the answer is yes lol, what are you talking about this morn'n funches? 1. I have never once said you were gonna burn, or made any form of comments on your eternity or even insinuated anything. Again, we're just here having a discussion. 2. You think awefully high of yourself saying you'll sit on the left side of God.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 12/02/11 08:39 AM
What are you talking about? How would you know no one has seen God and lived? Did they tell you? Cowboy...how could they tell me if they are dead ....you claimed that you walked with God....did you see him? I see God everyday. now describe God without sounding delusional God is great, he is loving, he is forgiving, he is omniscient, he is omnipotent, he is everywhere, he is God. I'm pretty sure that what's written on his Driver's License...but you claim to have seen him ....did you see his face? I see his face everywhere in everything. do he have horns? no. He is absolutely beautiful. so that either means that you lied when you claim that you see God's face everywhere or that you never seen horns before....which is it I see God everywhere in everything. except horns ......see how you lie What? What in the world are you talking about? What horns? In goat horns? Yeah I see God in goat horns, for it is a creation of God. but do you see God in all horns? Dude, you're really really really out in left field. What in the world are you talking about? Yes I see God in all his creations. Horns, legs, feet, snow, grass, and everything else. So yes, I would see God in all horns.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 12/02/11 08:41 AM
No. But God's created souls have turned away from him. Less they return, how would they belong to God? Cowboy..you just admitted that your soul belong to God when you answer "No" to my querstion if God created things that he do not own and this is why there is no Free Will...if God owns your body he owns your will because neither can function without the other He owns my will because I have given my will to the lord. I have surrendered myself to the lord. I have done this on my own will, my own desire. Wasn't forced. That is what free will is. One has the choice to obey God or not. you can't surrender something that you claim that God already owns or given to you....even you stated that God can do what he wish with you...and that includes your will .....

carold Joined Sun 03/23/08 Posts: 26747	Fri 12/02/11 08:42 AM
What are you talking about? How would you know no one has seen God and lived? Did they tell you? Cowboy...how could they tell me if they are dead ....you claimed that you walked with God....did you see him? I see God everyday. now describe God without sounding delusional God is great, he is loving, he is forgiving, he is omniscient, he is omnipotent, he is everywhere, he is God. I'm pretty sure that what's written on his Driver's License...but you claim to have seen him ....did you see his face? I see his face everywhere in everything. do he have horns? no. He is absolutely beautiful. so that either means that you lied when you claim that you see God's face everywhere or that you never seen horns before....which is it I see God everywhere in everything. except horns ......see how you lie What? What in the world are you talking about? What horns? In goat horns? Yeah I see God in goat horns, for it is a creation of God. but do you see God in all horns? No horns for me

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 12/02/11 08:42 AM
No, I'm merely relaying a message. I know nothing God hasn't told us all. so now you are claiming that God was the one that told you that he placed all the babies on noah's Ark

carold Joined Sun 03/23/08 Posts: 26747	Fri 12/02/11 08:44 AM
What are you talking about? How would you know no one has seen God and lived? Did they tell you? Cowboy...how could they tell me if they are dead ....you claimed that you walked with God....did you see him? I see God everyday. now describe God without sounding delusional God is great, he is loving, he is forgiving, he is omniscient, he is omnipotent, he is everywhere, he is God. I'm pretty sure that what's written on his Driver's License...but you claim to have seen him ....did you see his face? I see his face everywhere in everything. do he have horns? no. He is absolutely beautiful. so that either means that you lied when you claim that you see God's face everywhere or that you never seen horns before....which is it I see God everywhere in everything. except horns ......see how you lie What? What in the world are you talking about? What horns? In goat horns? Yeah I see God in goat horns, for it is a creation of God. but do you see God in all horns? Dude, you're really really really out in left field. What in the world are you talking about? Yes I see God in all his creations. Horns, legs, feet, snow, grass, and everything else. So yes, I would see God in all horns. Maybe its the weed or he is coming off his meds Just joking Funches

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 12/02/11 08:44 AM
No. But God's created souls have turned away from him. Less they return, how would they belong to God? Cowboy..you just admitted that your soul belong to God when you answer "No" to my querstion if God created things that he do not own and this is why there is no Free Will...if God owns your body he owns your will because neither can function without the other He owns my will because I have given my will to the lord. I have surrendered myself to the lord. I have done this on my own will, my own desire. Wasn't forced. That is what free will is. One has the choice to obey God or not. you can't surrender something that you claim that God already owns or given to you....even you stated that God can do what he wish with you...and that includes your will ..... Yes he "CAN". But he has given us free will. He has GIVEN us a will. If someone gives something away, it is not theirs any more for they have given it to someone else. You have the choice, that is all free will is. It is choice to make your will with God, or a different will.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 12/02/11 08:44 AM
Looking at your picture, you seem to have all the physical parts of the body. Hey guess what? I do to. So with what your saying, our bodies have the same parts, our wills would be the same. sorry Cowboy...but so far you seen to be lacking a pair Why throw insults into a discussion? That is easier for some and if they can get you to argue back. That is even better then your thrown off your subject. And then they bounce on you. come on Carold...so far all you have done is gripe and agree with a false gospel spreader....get into the debate, pull up a passage that answers the questions that are posed and show that Christians read the bible.... Pretty much they didn't in the beginning because it wasn't wrote. and Now some do some don't. It is smarter to read the word and to know what your debating. I know when I was young it mostly sat on the coffee gathering dust. But now with the new generation they are reading so did I and several times. if you ask the new generation who the holy spirit is... they would say weed Oh I don't think so but there is that side of life. ok...what if I said prescription drugs prescribed by a doctor for their parents

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 12/02/11 08:46 AM
No, I'm merely relaying a message. I know nothing God hasn't told us all. so now you are claiming that God was the one that told you that he placed all the babies on noah's Ark No, again I screwed up. I was thinking with a cardinal mind and not letting God guide my thoughts. I spoke before thinking it through.

carold Joined Sun 03/23/08 Posts: 26747	Fri 12/02/11 08:49 AM
Looking at your picture, you seem to have all the physical parts of the body. Hey guess what? I do to. So with what your saying, our bodies have the same parts, our wills would be the same. sorry Cowboy...but so far you seen to be lacking a pair Why throw insults into a discussion? That is easier for some and if they can get you to argue back. That is even better then your thrown off your subject. And then they bounce on you. come on Carold...so far all you have done is gripe and agree with a false gospel spreader....get into the debate, pull up a passage that answers the questions that are posed and show that Christians read the bible.... Pretty much they didn't in the beginning because it wasn't wrote. and Now some do some don't. It is smarter to read the word and to know what your debating. I know when I was young it mostly sat on the coffee gathering dust. But now with the new generation they are reading so did I and several times. if you ask the new generation who the holy spirit is... they would say weed Oh I don't think so but there is that side of life. ok...what if I said prescription drugs prescribed by a doctor for their parents There is that side of life too. Most kids that kill others are on those meds. You just can't take a pill to slove everything now some do good on them but then there is some that don't.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 12/02/11 08:51 AM
Exactly. We are not objects. God wants a relationship with us, he doesn't want to "own" us. yes he just give us commandments and threaten to toss you into the lake of fire for all eternity if you do not have a relationship with him ....but I guess you can go to court and get a restraining order for that What in the world? You sure you're reading the Holy Bible? God makes no threats about throwing anyone in any fire. didn't we already go through this Lake of Fire thing when you were claiming that God wouldn't toss anyone into it and then MorningSong corected you with a passage that claim that people will be tossed into it

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 12/02/11 08:54 AM Edited by CowboyGH on Fri 12/02/11 08:55 AM
Exactly. We are not objects. God wants a relationship with us, he doesn't want to "own" us. yes he just give us commandments and threaten to toss you into the lake of fire for all eternity if you do not have a relationship with him ....but I guess you can go to court and get a restraining order for that What in the world? You sure you're reading the Holy Bible? God makes no threats about throwing anyone in any fire. didn't we already go through this Lake of Fire thing when you were claiming that God wouldn't toss anyone into it and then MorningSong corected you with a passage that claim that people will be tossed into it God gives no "threats". Only enlightening information on the consequence to some actions. Would not be righteous if when we get to judgement God denies someone Heaven for something they did when God never told us not to do it. And God enlightens us with the knowledge of the alternative to Heaven.