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Topic: Where in the Genesis is Jesus
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Mon 08/08/11 07:40 PM



Wow, is this topic really still here? And going strong, I see.
Ok, well, I'll be moving on now... still not caring.


to go through the trouble to post that you don't care...only proves that you do .....


Oh, I can post all day long. But there's no way I'm actually reading through 13 pages of this nonsense.


no need to read 13 pages of nonsense...just start reading at the point where your whining begins ... since it's now officially part of the nonsense that you're whining about


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Tue 08/09/11 07:13 AM
Genesis 1:24
And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so



this is an odd passage that implies many things ...

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Tue 08/09/11 07:15 AM
Genesis 1:25
And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good



the beginning of the clone wars

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Tue 08/09/11 07:23 AM
Genesis 1:26
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.



this passage "Let Us make man in our own image" seems to be the first one everyone runs to in their attempt to prove that another Godhead exist

except the "US" was most likely God talking to an angel ...

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Tue 08/09/11 07:32 AM
Genesis 1:27
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.



makes you wonder if God has arms and legs among other assorted parts ...

as Captain Kirk would ask....What does God needs with arms and legs and other assorted parts

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Tue 08/09/11 07:45 AM
Genesis 1:28
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.


Be Fruitful and multiply was the same command that God gave to the animals ....which means that for the animals to carry out this command they would have to be on the mental level and have the same "Free Will" as Man

if not then "Be Fruitful and Multiply" would be the creation of Lust and God's implantation in both Man and Animal the inherent desire to procreated what is referred to as instinct


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Tue 08/09/11 07:53 AM
Genesis 1:29
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.


so Adam and Eve was vegetarians...well now that explains the fall...they wanted some real meat ...

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Tue 08/09/11 07:59 AM
Genesis 1:30
And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so


even the animals were vegetarians ...makes you wonder if this was by choice instinct or command...or perhaps lack of knowledge


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Tue 08/09/11 08:16 AM
Edited by funches on Tue 08/09/11 08:18 AM
Genesis 1:31
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.



since some made such a hoopla in Genesis 1:26 about the term "US" in "Let US make Man in own own image

then let's apply the same logic to Genesis 1:31 with the term "HE"

if there were three Godheads wouldn't the passage used the term "THEY" had made, instead of "HE" had made

but anyway another day completed and there is still no indisputable evidence of Jesus or any other God heads


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Wed 08/10/11 11:44 AM
Edited by CowboyGH on Wed 08/10/11 11:47 AM

Genesis 1:31
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.



since some made such a hoopla in Genesis 1:26 about the term "US" in "Let US make Man in own own image

then let's apply the same logic to Genesis 1:31 with the term "HE"

if there were three Godheads wouldn't the passage used the term "THEY" had made, instead of "HE" had made

but anyway another day completed and there is still no indisputable evidence of Jesus or any other God heads




And who do you think Jesus is?

Titus 2:10 and 13
10Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.

13Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

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Wed 08/10/11 11:52 AM


Genesis 1:31
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.



since some made such a hoopla in Genesis 1:26 about the term "US" in "Let US make Man in own own image

then let's apply the same logic to Genesis 1:31 with the term "HE"

if there were three Godheads wouldn't the passage used the term "THEY" had made, instead of "HE" had made

but anyway another day completed and there is still no indisputable evidence of Jesus or any other God heads




And who do you think Jesus is?

Titus 2:10 and 13
10Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.

13Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;


Matthew 1:23 - “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.

Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Isaiah 43:10,11 - “You are My witnesses,” says the Lord, “And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no Savior.


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Wed 08/10/11 07:09 PM
Edited by funches on Wed 08/10/11 07:10 PM

And who do you think Jesus is?


the thread is not about who he is but where he is ...and so far he isn't in Genesis


Titus 2:10 and 13
10Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.


by running to the New Testament all you are doing is proving that perhaps Jesus was Baal in The Old Testament


13Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;


passages about believers waiting on Jesus to appear does not provide evidence that he appeared in Genesis

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Wed 08/10/11 07:19 PM


And who do you think Jesus is?


the thread is not about who he is but where he is ...and so far he isn't in Genesis


Titus 2:10 and 13
10Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.


by running to the New Testament all you are doing is proving that perhaps Jesus was Baal in The Old Testament


13Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;


passages about believers waiting on Jesus to appear does not provide evidence that he appeared in Genesis



Already showed Jesus in Genesis

Genesis 2:10
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

Says right there LORD God, Jesus Christ is the LORD God. Jesus is our lord, he is our God.

Definition of God -

- The being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness, who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe.

and as shown in Genesis 2:10 "in the day the LORD God made the earth and the heavens.


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Wed 08/10/11 07:25 PM

Already showed Jesus in Genesis

Genesis 2:10
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,



and I asked you why isn't the Lord God mention in Genesis 1:1 ....but you ran away from the question

Genesis 1:1
God created The Heavens and The Earth


if Jesus as you claim is The Lord God that created the Heavens and The Earth...then explain why isn't the term "The Lord God" used

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Wed 08/10/11 07:58 PM


Already showed Jesus in Genesis

Genesis 2:10
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,



and I asked you why isn't the Lord God mention in Genesis 1:1 ....but you ran away from the question

Genesis 1:1
God created The Heavens and The Earth


if Jesus as you claim is The Lord God that created the Heavens and The Earth...then explain why isn't the term "The Lord God" used


It may very well be talking about lord God. A lord is as follows

Lord - A man of high rank in a feudal society or in one that retains feudal forms and institutions, especially:
a. A king.
b. A territorial magnate.
c. The proprietor of a manor.

Before man/woman was created is when it only uses the term God. Before man/woman was created their would be no "lord" because Jesus is OUR lord. So before us, there would be no "lord". Just merely God.

God
a. A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions.
b. The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being.

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Wed 08/10/11 08:32 PM

It may very well be talking about lord God. .


if Jesus created The Heavens and The Earth...then exactly what did Yahweh The Father create

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Wed 08/10/11 09:10 PM


It may very well be talking about lord God. .


if Jesus created The Heavens and The Earth...then exactly what did Yahweh The Father create


Isaiah 9:6

6For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.


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Thu 08/11/11 06:02 AM



It may very well be talking about lord God. .


if Jesus created The Heavens and The Earth...then exactly what did Yahweh The Father create


Isaiah 9:6

6For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.


Cowboy...in your post below you claim that the Father was the Creator


POSTED BY COWBOY:
Jesus is lord of the gods. He is OUR lord. God our father is the creator, the ruler, the king, he is top dog so to speak

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/306627?page=8post 1


since you yourself admitted that The Father is the Creator ...therefore Yawhew or Baal would be the one that created The Heavens and the Earth ...not Jesus


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Thu 08/11/11 08:23 AM




It may very well be talking about lord God. .


if Jesus created The Heavens and The Earth...then exactly what did Yahweh The Father create


Isaiah 9:6

6For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.


Cowboy...in your post below you claim that the Father was the Creator


POSTED BY COWBOY:
Jesus is lord of the gods. He is OUR lord. God our father is the creator, the ruler, the king, he is top dog so to speak

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/306627?page=8post 1


since you yourself admitted that The Father is the Creator ...therefore Yawhew or Baal would be the one that created The Heavens and the Earth ...not Jesus




Yes and I learned something last night. Isaiah 9:6 had never clicked before when reading it in the past. And now that I think of it, it makes sense. Jesus to the best of my knowledge doesn't call us his brother. We are all brothers in Christ. Don't mark my words on this particular thing just yet, just thinking out loud. But after rereading Isaiah last night and putting it all together, it seems Jesus is our father. Again, just thinking out loud, I'll look more into it.

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Thu 08/11/11 09:35 AM





It may very well be talking about lord God. .


if Jesus created The Heavens and The Earth...then exactly what did Yahweh The Father create


Isaiah 9:6

6For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.


Cowboy...in your post below you claim that the Father was the Creator


POSTED BY COWBOY:
Jesus is lord of the gods. He is OUR lord. God our father is the creator, the ruler, the king, he is top dog so to speak

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/306627?page=8post 1


since you yourself admitted that The Father is the Creator ...therefore Yawhew or Baal would be the one that created The Heavens and the Earth ...not Jesus




Yes and I learned something last night. Isaiah 9:6 had never clicked before when reading it in the past. And now that I think of it, it makes sense. Jesus to the best of my knowledge doesn't call us his brother. We are all brothers in Christ. Don't mark my words on this particular thing just yet, just thinking out loud. But after rereading Isaiah last night and putting it all together, it seems Jesus is our father. Again, just thinking out loud, I'll look more into it.


well before you ponder to much on Isaiah 9:6 here is something that you yourself posted ......


POSTED BY COWBOY:
Ok, again if Jesus was God in the flesh, who was he referring to when he was speaking/praying to our father? If he was God *our father* then was Jesus speaking to himself?

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/291858?page=25 post 15


also Jesus the son didn't know the time of judgement day and claimed only God The Father knows ....which proves that Jesus isn't the Father and that it's Yahweh that is the creator and the lord God mention in Gensis 1:26

as I said The Old Testament is a brilliant piece of work and will not allow anyone including Jesus or those after him to become God ..it placed in all types of failsafes and booby traps to close all the loop holes to ensure this

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