Saved from what?

I though you said that there aren't any threats? If we need to be saved from a wrathful God who is threatening to cast us into a place of eternal damnation, then we are indeed being threatened by this God.



These fables are riddled with contradictions and inconsistencies like this. Moreover, there would not have been any need to bring a "New Covenant" unless the previous covenant had been flawed or insufficient.

Therefore any story that has a God changing his mind about what his covenant with mankind should be is a story of a God who is unsure of himself and didn't get it right the first time.

So this very ideology flies in the face of what a supposedly all-perfect, all-wise, omniscient being should be. The very story itself is a contradiction in terms of the character that this supreme being is supposed to have.

That's a red flag right there that should instantly give us a heads-up to the fact that these stores are nothing more than the made up superstitious fables of men.




From my perspective you portray this religion in a very hateful manner. You are portraying Jesus to be someone who hates everyone who refuses to believe in him.

You may not mean to do this, but this is the end result of your style of ministry whether you realize it or not. You focus entirely on creating a situation where Jesus will hate and be mean to anyone who does not believe in these stories.



I have never seen anything come from you that I would classify as love. All I ever see you do is preach how Jesus will hate those who refuse to believe in him, and how he is justified in hating non-believers.



There you just did it again. You're attempting to justify intolerance and hatred in Jesus toward people who do not believe in him.

This is just yet another huge RED FLAGCowboy. This religion supposedly started out being about behavior and a God wanting people to be good. But now it has been deviously turned into something entirely differently.

Now it has become a story about a God who hatefully punishes anyone who simply refuses to believe that he exists.

It's a train-wrecked religion Cowboy.

It started out being about morals, and ended up being about a highly egotistical God who is supposedly justified in hating everyone who refuses to worship him.



That is a hate-filled ministry my friend. A ministry that is based entirely on a hateful intolerant and highly egotistical and selfish God.




There we go again with the "Save Him" crap.

Save him from what? There has to be a THREAT before someone can be saved from it. This is an extremely threatening religion that claims that everyone need to be "saved" from this horrible hateful egotistical godhead.




That's probably one of the rare statements that actually came from Jesus as printed. A Buddhist could have said this.



The devils "believe" in God?

Don't they KNOW?

My uncle was once asked what he would do if a devil came to him and offered him all the riches of the world. His answer was quite simple, he said, "I would then know that God exists".



What does this have to do with anything we're talking about?
A Buddhist could have said this.




First off if Jesus is indeed an eternal being who existed before creation and will preside as the King of Kings for all of eternity then it's meaningless to claim that he "gave his life" or "died" for anyone.

Jesus didn't give his life for anyone if he's going to be the eternal egotistical King who demands that everyone worship him for all of eternity.

So it's utter nonsense to even suggest that he gave his life for anyone.

Moreover, what would have been the purpose of this? Why would this have been necessary? There can be no formidable enemy that God had to appease or conquer before God can have his way. Therefore the only entity that could have been appeased by a bloody brutal crucifixion would have had the God himself.

Again, not a pretty picture of a supposedly all-righteous, all-wise God.

I see no wisdom in this whatsoever. A God who creates a universes where he has to be nailed to a pole by the objects of his creation in order to "save" them from his very won wrath is sicker than sick Cowboy.

There is no excuse for such sick demented behavior.

As a superstitious fictitious fable it doesn't even make sense, much less expecting someone to believe that it could actually be true.






I wouldn't want the "love" of the God you describe from your personal interpretations of the biblical scriptures.

I have no desire to be "loved" by a hateful demonic egotistical selfish God.

You may as well be asking me to condone the behavior of Hilter and worship and love him just to appease him so I can serve his perverted desires for the rest of my days and wallow in knowing that he supposedly loves me back.



I wouldn't do it. I would rather die.

Same thing goes for the biblical picture of God. I have absolutely no desire to acquire the "love" of such a sick perverted being.

How many times do I need to tell you. Atheism is a far more beautiful picture.

If the Biblical God somehow turned out to be true as described in the biblical scriptures my only request of it would be to make atheism become true for me!

Strike me out of existence altogether with a lightening bolt or something. If possible, make it so that I had never existed at all.

If the Biblical description of God is true Cowboy, then I am totally disappointed in our creator. I would have so much pity for this God that it would be impossible to worship it. All I would want to do is to HELP it to get better.

This biblical God himself is in dire need of a Goddess to show him the meaning of LOVE.

I read posts made by mortal women on these forums that exhibit far more love and understanding that these religious fables of the Hebrews.

It's crystal clear to me that all this amounts to is religious bigotry.

Either worship "Our God" or god to hell!

That's all it is Cowboy. It's just a man-made religious bigotry.

There is no "love" in it.

The Hebrews didn't even know what Love is!

They were male chauvinist pigs who used a make-believe God as an excuse to belittled and degrade their wives and daughters.

If they were living today we'd call them the Taliban and totally renounce their behavior as being "ungodly".

Yet here you are trying to convince me that our creator is like the Taliban!

Saved from what?

I though you said that there aren't any threats? If we need to be saved from a wrathful God who is threatening to cast us into a place of eternal damnation, then we are indeed being threatened by this God.

These fables are riddled with contradictions and inconsistencies like this. Moreover, there would not have been any need to bring a "New Covenant" unless the previous covenant had been flawed or insufficient.

Therefore any story that has a God changing his mind about what his covenant with mankind should be is a story of a God who is unsure of himself and didn't get it right the first time.

So this very ideology flies in the face of what a supposedly all-perfect, all-wise, omniscient being should be. The very story itself is a contradiction in terms of the character that this supreme being is supposed to have.

That's a red flag right there that should instantly give us a heads-up to the fact that these stores are nothing more than the made up superstitious fables of men.

Genesis 2:4
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

Wow, is this topic really still here? And going strong, I see.
Ok, well, I'll be moving on now... still not caring.