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it is interesting there would be a double standard there since as a species our male population is not quite a third of our female's population.  we're being slowly extinguished. women have proven that they don't need men to survive. and since so many men have donated to the "banks", women don't need a man for procreation. eventually, they will keep men all in cages just for our seed to replenish the "banks". genetic testing will be done on newborn males and only those with exceptional genes will be allowed to live(in cages for their seed). the rest will be terminated for their inferiority. that's the future i see anyway. . . . soooo, does this mean you men won't be paying for dinner anymore??? you didn't notice that i stopped paying a long time ago? . . . How could I? : ) really - what planet do u live on? I haven't paid for dinner or anything really - on a date yet - except one time and there were "reasons" i stopped dating a long time ago. my friend and i alternate paying for things. i get the movies, she gets the popcorn....whatever. . . . |
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it is interesting there would be a double standard there since as a species our male population is not quite a third of our female's population. we're being slowly extinguished. women have proven that they don't need men to survive. and since so many men have donated to the "banks", women don't need a man for procreation. eventually, they will keep men all in cages just for our seed to replenish the "banks". genetic testing will be done on newborn males and only those with exceptional genes will be allowed to live(in cages for their seed). the rest will be terminated for their inferiority. that's the future i see anyway. . . . soooo, does this mean you men won't be paying for dinner anymore??? you didn't notice that i stopped paying a long time ago? . . . How could I? : ) really - what planet do u live on? I haven't paid for dinner or anything really - on a date yet - except one time and there were "reasons" i stopped dating a long time ago. my friend and i alternate paying for things. i get the movies, she gets the popcorn....whatever. . . . sounds like dating to me....but I guess the term date has a more romantic connotation which is why the man usually pays - at least at first - a lot of men do not like it when a woman insists on paying part of a date - it is the equivalent of being "friend zoned" |
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sounds like dating to me....but I guess the term date has a more romantic connotation which is why the man usually pays - at least at first - a lot of men do not like it when a woman insists on paying part of a date - it is the equivalent of being "friend zoned" A woman paying for a date, or taking turns paying for something does not automatically mean friend zone. Some women are just not so old fashioned and don't insist on men paying all the time. |
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Edited by
74Drew
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Sun 06/12/11 02:13 PM
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i stopped dating a long time ago. my friend and i alternate paying for things. i get the movies, she gets the popcorn....whatever. . . . sounds like dating to me....but I guess the term date has a more romantic connotation which is why the man usually pays - at least at first - a lot of men do not like it when a woman insists on paying part of a date - it is the equivalent of being "friend zoned" it's not dating because there is no romantic connection or interest. . . . |
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Edited by
sweetestgirl11
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Sun 06/12/11 02:44 PM
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i stopped dating a long time ago. my friend and i alternate paying for things. i get the movies, she gets the popcorn....whatever. . . . sounds like dating to me....but I guess the term date has a more romantic connotation which is why the man usually pays - at least at first - a lot of men do not like it when a woman insists on paying part of a date - it is the equivalent of being "friend zoned" it's not dating because there is no romantic connection or interest. . . . yes that's why the comment "but I guess the term date has a more romantic connotation" @singme - u are entitled to ur opinion I suppose, but I don't see it as old fashioned at all. It's been my experience that men get a little put off if a woman offers to pay and that is with men 10-15 years my junior- it is definitely a friend zoner IME - as I will not let a guy pay who I really am not that interested in because it's not nice to use someone that way and on subsequent dates I do think some sharing / degree of sharing the expense is nice - that is for each couple to work out on subsequent dates but if a man expected me to pay for a first date I don't know what I'd do as it has never happened. I would most likely refuse I have to admit tho that I haven't done a lot of dating lately....but this has been my expereince - what little of it there is
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First dates are like sooooo uber important too. First impressions really can last a lifetime and it is a lot more expensive for a woman to get all dolled up than it is for a man. So paying for the first date kinda helps put the man on an even footing with her. Also for a potential S.O its pretty damn important too cause it shows as much about our character as it does our appearance. It shows reliability and that we cared enough about the trouble she went through getting ready. Shes gotta get her hair did manicure pedicure dress shoes makeup the whole nine. While all we men have to do is be clean and smell nice.
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First dates are like sooooo uber important too. First impressions really can last a lifetime and it is a lot more expensive for a woman to get all dolled up than it is for a man. So paying for the first date kinda helps put the man on an even footing with her. Also for a potential S.O its pretty damn important too cause it shows as much about our character as it does our appearance. It shows reliability and that we cared enough about the trouble she went through getting ready. Shes gotta get her hair did manicure pedicure dress shoes makeup the whole nine. While all we men have to do is be clean and smell nice. thank you - it is nice to here this perspective I never realized this side of it |
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You always here that first impressions are super important. While I believe there is some validity to that, I believe that most people try to act better than they really are during an initial meeting. Really getting to know about a person's personality and habits takes a lot more than a couple of hours spent talking over dinner or whatnot. What you really see in a first impression is that which the other person thinks you want to see. Whether or not that is an accurate representation of that person can only be determined over time.
imo . . . |
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I dunno I probably just over think crap and then spout out whatever comes to mind.
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You always here that first impressions are super important. While I believe there is some validity to that, I believe that most people try to act better than they really are during an initial meeting. Really getting to know about a person's personality and habits takes a lot more than a couple of hours spent talking over dinner or whatnot. What you really see in a first impression is that which the other person thinks you want to see. Whether or not that is an accurate representation of that person can only be determined over time. imo . . . Well I don't particularly believe that people act it up any more than they would a job interview or the like its kinda pointless Imo. Your looking for someone you want to spend a majority your time with. Now from the data I've gathered into my pea brain from past experiences a woman knows if shes going to sleep with or would have romantic interests after the first 30seconds anyway. Also you cant forget about body language cause I'm sorry you can read a person like a book from their body language. Thats also why every single dating advice book will likely tell you the most important thing is being yourself. Of course none of that falls into the original topic of the double standard since thats picking someone up for a one night stand. Which is a whole other animal in and of itself. |
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i stopped dating a long time ago. my friend and i alternate paying for things. i get the movies, she gets the popcorn....whatever. . . . sounds like dating to me....but I guess the term date has a more romantic connotation which is why the man usually pays - at least at first - a lot of men do not like it when a woman insists on paying part of a date - it is the equivalent of being "friend zoned" it's not dating because there is no romantic connection or interest. . . . yes that's why the comment "but I guess the term date has a more romantic connotation" @singme - u are entitled to ur opinion I suppose, but I don't see it as old fashioned at all. It's been my experience that men get a little put off if a woman offers to pay and that is with men 10-15 years my junior- it is definitely a friend zoner IME - as I will not let a guy pay who I really am not that interested in because it's not nice to use someone that way and on subsequent dates I do think some sharing / degree of sharing the expense is nice - that is for each couple to work out on subsequent dates but if a man expected me to pay for a first date I don't know what I'd do as it has never happened. I would most likely refuse I have to admit tho that I haven't done a lot of dating lately....but this has been my expereince - what little of it there is Just as you are talking about your experiences, so am I. From the things you've said in this forum, though, you do seem a bit more old fashioned, for lack of a better term. If expecting a man to pay works for you, great. |
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First dates are like sooooo uber important too. First impressions really can last a lifetime and it is a lot more expensive for a woman to get all dolled up than it is for a man. So paying for the first date kinda helps put the man on an even footing with her. Also for a potential S.O its pretty damn important too cause it shows as much about our character as it does our appearance. It shows reliability and that we cared enough about the trouble she went through getting ready. Shes gotta get her hair did manicure pedicure dress shoes makeup the whole nine. While all we men have to do is be clean and smell nice. So, you think women are going out and buying/doing everything you listed for first dates? |
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i stopped dating a long time ago. my friend and i alternate paying for things. i get the movies, she gets the popcorn....whatever. . . . sounds like dating to me....but I guess the term date has a more romantic connotation which is why the man usually pays - at least at first - a lot of men do not like it when a woman insists on paying part of a date - it is the equivalent of being "friend zoned" it's not dating because there is no romantic connection or interest. . . . yes that's why the comment "but I guess the term date has a more romantic connotation" @singme - u are entitled to ur opinion I suppose, but I don't see it as old fashioned at all. It's been my experience that men get a little put off if a woman offers to pay and that is with men 10-15 years my junior- it is definitely a friend zoner IME - as I will not let a guy pay who I really am not that interested in because it's not nice to use someone that way and on subsequent dates I do think some sharing / degree of sharing the expense is nice - that is for each couple to work out on subsequent dates but if a man expected me to pay for a first date I don't know what I'd do as it has never happened. I would most likely refuse I have to admit tho that I haven't done a lot of dating lately....but this has been my expereince - what little of it there is I kind of thought the expectation to pay fell on whomever did the inviting,,,, If a guy asked me out(that I Didnt previously know) and asked me to pay, ID have to back off too now if I KNEW them a while and they had paid before and asked me to do so,, it would be no problem |
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Edited by
sweetestgirl11
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Sun 06/12/11 03:51 PM
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i stopped dating a long time ago. my friend and i alternate paying for things. i get the movies, she gets the popcorn....whatever. . . . sounds like dating to me....but I guess the term date has a more romantic connotation which is why the man usually pays - at least at first - a lot of men do not like it when a woman insists on paying part of a date - it is the equivalent of being "friend zoned" it's not dating because there is no romantic connection or interest. . . . yes that's why the comment "but I guess the term date has a more romantic connotation" @singme - u are entitled to ur opinion I suppose, but I don't see it as old fashioned at all. It's been my experience that men get a little put off if a woman offers to pay and that is with men 10-15 years my junior- it is definitely a friend zoner IME - as I will not let a guy pay who I really am not that interested in because it's not nice to use someone that way and on subsequent dates I do think some sharing / degree of sharing the expense is nice - that is for each couple to work out on subsequent dates but if a man expected me to pay for a first date I don't know what I'd do as it has never happened. I would most likely refuse I have to admit tho that I haven't done a lot of dating lately....but this has been my expereince - what little of it there is Just as you are talking about your experiences, so am I. From the things you've said in this forum, though, you do seem a bit more old fashioned, for lack of a better term. If expecting a man to pay works for you, great. traditional maybe - I find the term old fashioned offensive - just thought I'd mention that traditional values have worked well for a lot of people for a long long time that is why we have them because they have been mostly - not always- successful- flexibility is good too tho and to meet me - there is nothing old fashioned about me at all so I don't appreciate the assumption and as I said the paying thing has been the preference of the men, not mine - usually much younger, actaully - and NOT just an expectation that I have. Tho it is one I share on a first date particularly it is a sign that he is really into you - otherwise you've been friend zoned lovey |
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First dates are like sooooo uber important too. First impressions really can last a lifetime and it is a lot more expensive for a woman to get all dolled up than it is for a man. So paying for the first date kinda helps put the man on an even footing with her. Also for a potential S.O its pretty damn important too cause it shows as much about our character as it does our appearance. It shows reliability and that we cared enough about the trouble she went through getting ready. Shes gotta get her hair did manicure pedicure dress shoes makeup the whole nine. While all we men have to do is be clean and smell nice. So, you think women are going out and buying/doing everything you listed for first dates? I certainly do - maybe not everything on here- but it's all been done recently anyway....who wouldn't? 
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First dates are like sooooo uber important too. First impressions really can last a lifetime and it is a lot more expensive for a woman to get all dolled up than it is for a man. So paying for the first date kinda helps put the man on an even footing with her. Also for a potential S.O its pretty damn important too cause it shows as much about our character as it does our appearance. It shows reliability and that we cared enough about the trouble she went through getting ready. Shes gotta get her hair did manicure pedicure dress shoes makeup the whole nine. While all we men have to do is be clean and smell nice. So, you think women are going out and buying/doing everything you listed for first dates? A lot do those who do it at home still invest time into it. Which to me is even more priceless cause thats their time. But yes I do think women put more effort into getting ready for a first date. 
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It's a slut when a guy does it and it's a slut when a girl does it. If any thing this standard shows that women have more virtue than men.
Did that win me points! my mom still loves me |
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Personally, I find the funniest part of the show is that the main character picking up all these woman is not interested in them to start with. Perhaps the reason they all go home with him is to get wardrobe advise or hair care tips!
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It's a slut when a guy does it and it's a slut when a girl does it. If any thing this standard shows that women have more virtue than men. Did that win me points! my mom still loves me you are incredibly virtuous..lol great point,, the double standard shouldnt have existed, but the STANDARD should have |
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First dates are like sooooo uber important too. First impressions really can last a lifetime and it is a lot more expensive for a woman to get all dolled up than it is for a man. So paying for the first date kinda helps put the man on an even footing with her. Also for a potential S.O its pretty damn important too cause it shows as much about our character as it does our appearance. It shows reliability and that we cared enough about the trouble she went through getting ready. Shes gotta get her hair did manicure pedicure dress shoes makeup the whole nine. While all we men have to do is be clean and smell nice. So, you think women are going out and buying/doing everything you listed for first dates? I certainly do - maybe not everything on here- but it's all been done recently anyway....who wouldn't? I don't go out to get my hair and nails done for each first date. I also don't buy new clothes for each first date. I do these things for myself when i want to, though. |
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