Again I have to agree with you. When we first started taking women on combat ships, they would get pregnant to get off ship which left women like me to do their jobs. I guess this is why again I got on well with the guys as I didn't play the pregnancy card. Thanks mightymoe for making me feel better.

I forgot about that. We knew we were going to deploy to Bosnia with our support unit about 8 months before we actually left. There were a lot of women that were trying to get pregnant by any man to get out of the military then... Think there was something like 20 pregnancies out of 50 women that were going to be deployed.

When I was in it was a shameful fact that was brought up in all the sexual harassment classes I had to attend. Attendance of this class is mandatory for all military personnel. Can't remember the rate. At least twice a year. May have been once a quarter. In my unit, referring to a woman in a derogatory manner was punished with an Article 15. Then I transferred to a new unit and my first day there witnessed sexual harassment in a squad meeting and none of the sergeants in charge did anything about it. It was a private that did it.

The difference being - my first unit was all male. The second was mixed.

If Mighymoe is right and most are falsely claiming rape or sexual assault, I wonder why? Why are they claiming sexual assault? What is the benefit to the female soldier to do that? Maybe that's a whole other thread.

If Mighymoe is right and most are falsely claiming rape or sexual assault, I wonder why? Why are they claiming sexual assault? What is the benefit to the female soldier to do that? Maybe that's a whole other thread.

Here is an article in Time magazine that claims the rate of sexual assault in the military is twice as high as in civilian population.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1968110,00.html

The Pentagon's latest figures show that nearly 3,000 women were sexually assaulted in fiscal year 2008, up 9% from the year before; among women serving in Iraq and Afghanistan, the number rose 25%. When you look at the entire universe of female veterans, close to a third say they were victims of rape or assault while they were serving — twice the rate in the civilian population.




I have no idea if it's true or not, but I'm assuming Time is as good a source of information as any other.

Sadly; some women will claim rape if caught with a guy because fraternization charges are harsh and could really damage your career I think this is the point that Mightymoe may be making that not all rape cases are clear cut.

rape is a terrible thing...

with that out the way, the numbers arent really as surprising to me, in fact they are kind of low




assuming that one in six of the general population are raped, at a ratio of 1 man to 1 woman(approximately)
{there are approximately 160 million women, slightly more than half the population)


I would expect a bit of a higher rate in an environment where there are five men to every one woman
(women make up approximately 15 percent of enlisted)


..perhaps up to five times more, since there are at least five times as many one on one situations in which a man coult take advangage of a woman


add to that the very specific ADULT Demographics of the military compared to a very general and broad age range of 'civilian' females, and that would further cause an expected increase

Those are very good points.

I'm sure there are a percentage who make false allegations for various reasons because I saw that happen as a police officer. It was not a rare occurrence to have a girl make a rape allegation to cover up an illicit sexual relationship.

rape is a terrible thing...

with that out the way, the numbers arent really as surprising to me, in fact they are kind of low




assuming that one in six of the general population are raped, at a ratio of 1 man to 1 woman(approximately)
{there are approximately 160 million women, slightly more than half the population)


I would expect a bit of a higher rate in an environment where there are five men to every one woman
(women make up approximately 15 percent of enlisted)


..perhaps up to five times more, since there are at least five times as many one on one situations in which a man coult take advangage of a woman


add to that the very specific ADULT Demographics of the military compared to a very general and broad age range of 'civilian' females, and that would further cause an expected increase

that was my original point when i chimed in on your post dragon. a woman should have the right to do with her body as she wishes but why should the government pay for a procedure that would deprive a fetus the right to a life? you came accross in your original post title as though a woman in the military has a right to the military paying for an abortion. she simply has no such right nor should she in my view.

The article is asking for support of abortion funding for raped women in the military.

My point is that the amount of rapes is horrendous and should be the point of focus. Yes, the day after pill should be available as it is here for women who are raped and go to the clinic or hospital.

But my bill to the congress would be stricter rulings for rape in the military. Obviously the rules there are lax and probably because women weren't in these situations before.

I want to know what the hell is wrong with the military that they are allowing so many rapists in the military to begin with. They have standards because men and women are denied so where is the standard on this one. We do know that men who rape are control freaks, believe all woman to be capable of being whores/sluts, believe woman are objects to use, etc... So why aren't they screening for this?

Because we need soldiers spread out all over the world, especially when we keep finding a new war, a new enemy. Who better to send to kill than those who have violent tendencies to begin with.
Rape victims are just more collateral damage....

i've read a ton of absurdities on the forums but this takes the cake.