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(((((ABRA)))))
(((COWBOY))))) ((((JEANNIE)))) ((((ALL THE REST OF THE GANG))))) 
NITE NITE... LOVE YOU ALL SO DOES GOD. 
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Kliesto..., after you click on the link (below) ,also look for the " search box" , in the upper right hand corner....in that search box, you can type any question, and this site will help you find answers. It is the most trusted website I know . In the link I gave below, are already a listing of other links to click on.... that will help answer some of your questions. Hope this helps. 
http://www.gotquestions.org/search.php?zoom_sort=0&zoom_query=do++all++religions++lead+to+God&search.x=17&search.y=21
Also, here is a link that further explains why Jesus is the only way to heaven......for the whole wide world. http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-only-way.html Thanks but really not that interested. i think that like me, he's interested in a discussion with real people who have their own real views on real issues and no interest in an internet link in which the author is not here to be challenged. we all have souped up search engines and can research all the links we choose to. my guess would be that someone has developed a program that could debate online swapping one link to dubunk an opponent's link. but some of us come to the forums to share our views with others and to hear their views in return. an internet link is the view of somebody who won't even show up for the discussion. |
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Because people worship with their hearts, minds and labour. for example everybody has a mother and father, but some people disrespect their own parents but then show a whole other level of respect for their friends parents>. It was said in the bible not to worship any other gods for there is only one god who created all things, if we look at the Roman story of Zues, Hades and the other gods etc, the original story suggests that these gods obtained power by overthrowing their father. Their father being the one who created them along with all other things. GOD
They were recognized as gods and worshipped by men for the angelic powers they displayed but weve all heard of god and angels so if they're the gods then who are the angels?! The answer is THEY are fellow angels of the kingdom of god who had fell (been cast out of heaven for disobedience), Becoming what we call fallen angels today. (also referred to as the sons of disobedience). The bible also mentions how they desired the women of the earth and had offspring with human females which the children were labelled as abominations. For example Hercules son of Zues, who was apparently half man half god with the strength of ten men. This mythological person was the offspring of fallen angels also known as demons who is portrayed as a national hero in the world we live in. This being the reason why people like him were so much bigger and stronger than us humans. We will all return to the creator not to mention that he is in everything at all that exists whether it breathes or not, just our judgments will be different, and we will be judged for who we consciously did worship through disobedience. So to conclude all in all the scripture is there giving everybody free will to be either obedient or disobedient. But in the end we will receive as we have given. good energy can look 4ward to good things, and bad energy can only expect bad things. Our actions and beliefs will determine the outcome of our spiritual future, because at judgment when we are gathered god will simply embrace the good and be rid of the bad all at once not bit by bit or step by step. for once all evil is identified and destroyed there will be eternal peace for evil simply would not exist at all anymore! Further to my reply u can find answers for your question in the bible if u just read it> i would never take what somebody says as the truth without doing my own research so i would advise you to take a look. I hope i have been helpful :-) |
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ok monotheism was enough for me to gripe about now polytheism is making a comeback....puhlease no
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Cowboy wrote:
If Jesus is God in the flesh, he is a liar then. Cause it would not be his son if he was the one on the cross, it would be him. Matthew 3:17 17And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. --- And yes I know Jesus and God are one. But again, that doesn't mean they are one entity. That doesn't mean Jesus is our father. === 21In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight. --- Was Jesus speaking to himself? === Not to drag out a long old "debate" amongst people. I just have a very hard time comprehending the "trinity". I don't see how Jesus, our Father, and the Holy Ghost are all one exact entity. Yes, they are one. But not one entity. Are you blind Cowboy? Everyone has been showing you that these scriptures are riddled with contradictions from front cover to back cover on just about every page in between. I've already shown you billions of them that you continually live in denial of them. Matt.10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. John.5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son Luke.23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do Trying to appeal to logic and verbatim scriptures is IMPOSSIBLE. In the above set of verses we have the following" 1. Jesus claims that he will deny those who deny him. 2. The Father judgeth no man, all judgment has been committed to the son. Then in his dying breath on the cross he violates both of these things. He forgives those who deny him and appeals to the "Father" to forgive them. He would be going back on his OWN WORD by forgiving them. And you can't have Jesus being the WORD made flesh yet unworthy of being kept! He can't say one thing and do another and be said to be the "WORD" made flesh. That's an absurd contradiction. Moreover, if Jesus was made the Judge of all mankind then he would have no reason to ask the Father to forgive these people. Also, even if it was still God's job to judge people it would make no sense for Jesus to be asking God to forgive them and giving reasons why he feels they should be forgiven. That would imply that even Jesus himself didn't TRUST the Father's judgment to be FAIR and JUST. So these fables are literally RIDDLED with absurdities and contradictions. You're just trying to twist the tongue of Jesus to support your own version of RELIGIOUS BIGOTRY. That's all it amounts to Cowboy. You don't represent Christianity. You MOCK it even WORSE than me because you PRETEND to be speaking for Jesus! At least I speak for myself! You have such a grip on the tongue of Jesus that if it were a physical grip instead of a metaphorical one you would have ripped his tongue clean out of his mouth by now. I don't think I've ever seen anyone in my entire life abuse Jesus with such arrogance as you do. The only bright spot for the religion is that I'm quite sure that nobody associates your views with Christianity. Neither believers, nor non-believers. Nobody takes you seriously Cowboy, on either side of the issue. I don't blame MorningSong. If I were still a Christian I'd renounce your views as well, and try to set you straight. I totally agree with MorningSong. You are not a good representation of the religion by any stretch of the imagination. I've always wished that a truly wonderful evangelist would come by these forums someday and represent the religion correctly. I've never seen that yet. But negative Paper Popes like yourself? They're a penny a hundred. Matt.10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. John.5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son Luke.23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do No contradiction, just you have contextual problems and take things out of context and don't include surrounding verses. Matthew 10:33 is going along with Jesus being the path to God, the only way to our father in heaven. John 5:22 tells us Jesus is the judge of us all. Jesus is the word in flesh and we have always been judged by the word Luke 23:34 Jesus took on the form of a man, while Jesus was on Earth in his earthly form, Jesus was human. He was/is the only begotten child of God yes. But nevertheless he was not here to judge the world, he was here to give the world life through him. While Jesus was on Earth our father was the judge, for Jesus again took on an Earthly form to give us the new covenant. So again, nice try but no cigar, much love to you my friend. |
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And just because we are children of God, doesn't mean we deserve the gift of eternal life. Eternal life is a GIFT, it's not just given to every child.
Eternal life is not given to every child? That statement is NOT from the bible, Cowboy. Also....you wrote: If Jesus is God in the flesh, he is a liar then. Cause it would not be his son if he was the one on the cross, it would be him.
COWBOY....THAT WAS GOD HIMSELF ON THE CROSS .... AGAIN, ALTHOUGH JESUS WAS OBEDIENT TO THE FATHER WHILE ON THE EARTH, HE STILL WAS FULLY GOD AS WELL AS FULLY MAN. HE WAS STILL GOD. IT WAS GOD WHO TOOK OUR PLACE ON THE CROSS. GOD HIMSELF WHO BECAME MAN. Eternal life is not given to every child? That statement is NOT from the bible, Cowboy. So you're gonna tell me that every person on Earth will go to heaven? We are all children of God, regardless of their beliefs, actions, thoughts, desires, or anything. We are all created in God's image, we are all children of God. Some are disobedient children, some are children who disowned their father, but some are obedient children, some are children whom love our father who is in heaven. AGAIN, ALTHOUGH JESUS WAS OBEDIENT TO THE FATHER WHILE ON THE EARTH, HE STILL WAS FULLY GOD AS WELL AS FULLY MAN. HE WAS STILL GOD. Again, you misunderstood me. Yes Jesus was god, you're god, I'm god, we are all god. God is merely a "species" if you will. When discussing anything spiritual when someone mentions "god" they are referring to our father. It is a title given to him as to be able to discuss about him, so when someone refers to him the other knows whom they are talking about. GOD HIMSELF WHO BECAME MAN. Again, right there you are saying "Our father, became a man". "God" is a title given to our father because we know not of his name. Some people say it is this, some say it is that. So our father has been given the title/name "God" so we all know who each other is talking about. |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Fri 05/27/11 06:40 PM
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And just because we are children of God, doesn't mean we deserve the gift of eternal life. Eternal life is a GIFT, it's not just given to every child.
Eternal life is not given to every child? That statement is NOT from the bible, Cowboy. Also....you wrote: If Jesus is God in the flesh, he is a liar then. Cause it would not be his son if he was the one on the cross, it would be him.
COWBOY....THAT WAS GOD HIMSELF ON THE CROSS .... AGAIN, ALTHOUGH JESUS WAS OBEDIENT TO THE FATHER WHILE ON THE EARTH, HE STILL WAS FULLY GOD AS WELL AS FULLY MAN. HE WAS STILL GOD. IT WAS GOD WHO TOOK OUR PLACE ON THE CROSS. GOD HIMSELF WHO BECAME MAN. Eternal life is not given to every child? That statement is NOT from the bible, Cowboy. So you're gonna tell me that every person on Earth will go to heaven? We are all children of God, regardless of their beliefs, actions, thoughts, desires, or anything. We are all created in God's image, we are all children of God. Some are disobedient children, some are children who disowned their father, but some are obedient children, some are children whom love our father who is in heaven. AGAIN, ALTHOUGH JESUS WAS OBEDIENT TO THE FATHER WHILE ON THE EARTH, HE STILL WAS FULLY GOD AS WELL AS FULLY MAN. HE WAS STILL GOD. Again, you misunderstood me. Yes Jesus was god, you're god, I'm god, we are all god. God is merely a "species" if you will. When discussing anything spiritual when someone mentions "god" they are referring to our father. It is a title given to him as to be able to discuss about him, so when someone refers to him the other knows whom they are talking about. GOD HIMSELF WHO BECAME MAN. Again, right there you are saying "Our father, became a man". "God" is a title given to our father because we know not of his name. Some people say it is this, some say it is that. So our father has been given the title/name "God" so we all know who each other is talking about. Cowboy...eternal life goes on forever ...somewhere... our spirits live on....whether with God or apart from God....still every spirit lives on...somewhere. Bible makes this clear. And no, Jesus is NOT just a mere " god" ,as you are STILL claiming ... and No, I NEVER said Jesus is the Father, as you are STILL claiming that I said also. But believe as you wish....but again, please DON'T call it christianity. I am done . |
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There is no God but Allah and Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him) is the true and last Prophet of Allah. Being a Muslim I love my prophet very much, yet I do not call him Allah. Our creator is one and the only without any shadow of doubt. He has set certain rules and ethics for us to glorify Him. Holy Quran is the last divine scripture which was given to the prophet Muhammad (PBUH)to guide the whole mankind.
Hope it helps :) take care |
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Denial of Jesus (peace be upon him)as a God is a blessing in fact! Denial of him as a Prophet of Allah/God is a sin for sure.
Take care :) |
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There is no God but Allah and Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him)is the last messenger of Allah.
Yes, but that one God (Allah)has set up certain rules and ethics to follow Him. Convergance of all paths to Him does not mean that He will accept all of them. Same like a landlord would allow only those visitors to get in who take the front door path Holy Quran is the last and the most comprehensive divine scripture which was give to Ptophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H)to guide the whole mankind. It contains the complete guidance. Take care :) |
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One God or multiple Gods?
For multiorgasmic women, it's multiple Gods. They go, "Oh my GOD, GOD, GOD, GOD, bad dog, GOD, GOD, GOD, GOD, GOD." Some people believe that multiple orgasms only can happen one after another. It is not true. With my girlfriend, she had overlapping ones. |
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it truly depends upon how the speaker views 'God'
anything we worship (sex, money, drugs, graven images) can become our 'God' it can define us, run our life, etc,,,,in which case there are a multitude of 'Gods' (the medical profession might label them obsessions or phobias) If we are speaking of immortal creatures, there may also be a multitude as the Bible was not specific about it In terms of my life, I believe there is one 'creator', whom I refer to as 'God' and whom I try to honor and respect in my journey through life,,, |
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Edited by
wux
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Thu 06/30/11 12:14 PM
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There is no God but Allah and Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him)is the last messenger of Allah. Yes, but that one God (Allah)has set up certain rules and ethics to follow Him. Convergance of all paths to Him does not mean that He will accept all of them. Same like a landlord would allow only those visitors to get in who take the front door path Holy Quran is the last and the most comprehensive divine scripture which was give to Ptophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H)to guide the whole mankind. It contains the complete guidance. Take care :) Okay, so far I located the "on" switch and where to insert the batteries. (Violence in religion, again... "batteries".) I'm going to read the chapter called "Safety insructions" next. "Don't steal, lest your hand be chopped off." "Don't ridicule any Islamic religious symbol lest your nation's embassy be burnt down." "We consider Jews and Christians our brothers, and they are exempt from forced conversion, furthermore our promises to them are binding, and they enjoy all the rights and privileges of a Muslim. (Or those of a Muslima. Such as they are.) There are two exceptions: If they shall shell Palestinian refugee camps, or destroy two or more Muslim countries, razing all buildings to a level rubble." "There are no overweight Arab muslims. If you see one boarding the bus you're on, jump out the window and run for your life." "In the history of the entire world, no man alive or dead has ever forcibly removed the burka from a person who is under it. This means something. I think it means chivalry is alive and well protected in Islam, and it's compelling others too to respect their boundaries in the presence of a woman in burka, and it compels others to also respect the boundaries OF the woman in a burka. It seems that there are a lot of very serious boundaries going around these days, both physical and conceptual, both international and personal, and both of what's tolerable and what's in good taste." |
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It is often said in the religious sect,that there is but one God, accept no substitutes, or false Gods before it. But here's something to chew on: If this is true that there is one creator of all and one only, where else is our spiritual energy going to go but this one creator? Whom else can receive and give back, if there is no one else? How can you worship multiple other Gods in this particular sense, if no other Gods really exist? My point is simply this, if there's just one God as are all told, than it would naturally follow, that all paths eventually lead back to that one simply because there is no other to whom it can go to. It wouldn't make a bit of sense otherwise. Same God for everybody. Ride this amusement at your own risk. 
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