Topic: One God or multiple Gods?
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Wed 05/18/11 08:55 AM
Your link lead to a page with this statement:

"All religions lead to God, but only one religion will result in God's acceptance, because only through His salvation through faith in Jesus Christ can anyone approach Him with confidence. The decision to embrace the truth about God is important for a simple reason: eternity is an awfully long time to be wrong. This is why right thinking about God is so critical."


The statement is very vague. It says that only with faith in Jesus Christ can anyone approach him with confidence.

It does not actually say that only with faith in Jesus Christ will a person be saved. They are cleverly saying that you must approach God with confidence and they are guessing that only people who have faith (in Jesus) can do that. That is basically an opinion.

Many people do not want to believe in a God who demands righteousness and morality, so they invent a God who makes no such requirements.


Does the Christian God really demand righteousness and morality? I I'm not so sure about that because they claim that serial killers, child molesters etc. can repent and be forgiven and accepted into heaven. All sins can be washed away at the time of repentance, so your history of evil deeds mean nothing. Many bad people claim to have repented so when you reach heaven you will get to meet them.

What if our courtrooms forgave every murderer who fell to his knees and repented for his crimes and then let him back into society?



Many people do not want to believe in a God who declares it impossible for people to earn their own way to heaven. So they invent a God who accepts people into heaven if they have completed certain steps, followed certain rules, and/or obeyed certain laws, at least to the best of their ability.


Christianity is such a religion because they have invented a God that will forgive the worst person in the world if they repent. Can God be fooled? Not the real God, but if you believe the Bible, there are stories that indicate that the Christian God is not really "all knowing."


Many people do not want a relationship with a God who is sovereign and omnipotent. So they imagine God as being more of a mystical force than a personal and sovereign ruler.


God is a mystery, but Christians think they have God all figured out and they think that they and only they know the nature of God.

The existence of so many religions is not an argument against God's existence or an argument that truth about God is not clear. Rather, the existence of so many religions is demonstration of humanity's rejection of the one true God. Mankind has replaced Him with gods that are more to their liking. This is a dangerous enterprise. The desire to recreate God in our own image comes from the sin nature within us—a nature that will eventually “reap destruction”



No, the existence of so many religions is an effort to understand the true nature of God!

It is also the rejection of the Roman Catholic Church's portrayal of God.

Mankind does not "replace" God with :Gods of their own liking." They reject the Christian's invention of what they think is God.

Why would anyone have the desire to recreate God in our own image? The Bible says that we were already made in God's image.

This website is simply another opinion. I don't see it as "truth."

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Wed 05/18/11 02:11 PM


A god
A goddess
A energy or vibrations
Many gods
Many goddesses
Perhaps gods and goddesses

or nothing at all

We simply don't know.

I am sure you will get many different answers to contemplate and even question on.




If there's one God, it really could be all of those things in my estimation, depending on what person's perception of the creator is.


Very true! It could be all of that also. We simply don't know and it seems most humans have a hard time with that for they want to know now. Since we won't find out during our lifetime many make up fables to have somekind of reassurance of what could be. The mind is powerful and can believe in something even if it isn't true just to keep calm throughout life. Then there are some that are okay with not knowing and live a great life. These amongst many other ideas are the choices people have.

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Thu 05/19/11 04:56 AM



Kliesto..., after you click on the link (below) ,also

look for the " search box" , in the upper right hand

corner....in that search box, you can type any question, and

this site will help you find answers.

It is the most trusted website I know .


In the link I gave below, are already a listing of other links

to click on....

that will help answer some of your questions.


Hope this helps.
flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou

http://www.gotquestions.org/search.php?zoom_sort=0&zoom_query=do++all++religions++lead+to+God&search.x=17&search.y=21

:heart:


Also, here is a link that further explains why

Jesus is the only way to heaven......for the whole wide world.


http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-only-way.html




Thanks but really not that interested.
why do you start a thread your not even interested in. you ask a question then someone trys to help and you reply to them your not that interested. how rude you are. and by the questions you ask and dont want the answer to makes you seem quite ignorant.


actually it's rude to send someone to a website ...if a person insist that something on a website has a point then why not present that point to the forum using their own thoughts...if one can not place what was posted on the website in their own thoughts only indicate that they didn't understand the point themselves

also going outside the bible for an explantion to explain what's in the bible is the same as going to Satan...the explanation is generally twisted to the teller's own view point...

the bible is quite logical...which is why if someone has read something in the bible that one does not understand then skip it an come back to it later instead of going to a Satan website looking for the meaning this is why there are so many different demonimations of the same religion

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Thu 05/19/11 05:11 AM




Kliesto..., after you click on the link (below) ,also

look for the " search box" , in the upper right hand

corner....in that search box, you can type any question, and

this site will help you find answers.

It is the most trusted website I know .


In the link I gave below, are already a listing of other links

to click on....

that will help answer some of your questions.


Hope this helps.
flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou

http://www.gotquestions.org/search.php?zoom_sort=0&zoom_query=do++all++religions++lead+to+God&search.x=17&search.y=21

:heart:


Also, here is a link that further explains why

Jesus is the only way to heaven......for the whole wide world.


http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-only-way.html




Thanks but really not that interested.
why do you start a thread your not even interested in. you ask a question then someone trys to help and you reply to them your not that interested. how rude you are. and by the questions you ask and dont want the answer to makes you seem quite ignorant.


actually it's rude to send someone to a website ...if a person insist that something on a website has a point then why not present that point to the forum using their own thoughts...if one can not place what was posted on the website in their own thoughts only indicate that they didn't understand the point themselves

also going outside the bible for an explantion to explain what's in the bible is the same as going to Satan...the explanation is generally twisted to the teller's own view point...

the bible is quite logical...which is why if someone has read something in the bible that one does not understand then skip it an come back to it later instead of going to a Satan website looking for the meaning this is why there are so many different demonimations of the same religion




Just cant argue with that.

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Mon 05/23/11 05:51 PM
Edited by wux on Mon 05/23/11 05:55 PM
I get Kleisto's point. (Maybe.)

The bible's god declares he is the only god in existence.

That ought to stop all protests.

His saying then later, that He won't stand for people's worshipping other gods is superfluous. He could say "I won't stand for the practice of worshipping other gods". But he must not make it so sure that he will punish those who believe the other gods, coz that's an admission to the fact that he accepts that there ARE other gods out there.

That's A.

B. is that God behaves in this exercise as an atheist who says "I hate God." An atheist can't hate god, coz in his view god does not exist. If he hates God, he automatically affirms that god really exists. Similarly, God of the Bible saying "don't worship other gods before me" is a clear admission that God believes that there are other gods aside from him. Bona fide, kosher, undenyably existing, real, properly licenced and vaccinated other gods.

And C. is that it IS permissible to worship other gods ranking below the god of the bible, or to worship those other gods, bigger or smaller, behind the bible god's back. He says, quote, "thou shalt not wroship other gods before me." So THAT is the commandment, and if I were you, gentlemen, I would not argue with God, and imply that you know better than Him. He admits the existence of other gods, and He condones the worship of other gods, but please be discrete about it and observe proper etiquette, and don't do that in front of him, for christ's sake.

The guy who referred the man to the websites, which answer all questions: I will try that helpline. If I need to leave my email address, I won't.

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Mon 05/23/11 07:12 PM
http://www.gotquestions.org

I typed into the searchbox the following question:

"God prohibits the worship of other gods before him. This means there are other gods and he admits to that. Why do we call Christianity monotheism?"

the search engine took the question, and took twenty minutes before it came back with the answer,

"Don't ask this in public, because the competition will cook us."

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Mon 05/23/11 09:15 PM

http://www.gotquestions.org

I typed into the searchbox the following question:

"God prohibits the worship of other gods before him. This means there are other gods and he admits to that. Why do we call Christianity monotheism?"

the search engine took the question, and took twenty minutes before it came back with the answer,

"Don't ask this in public, because the competition will cook us."


There are many "gods", there is but one father, one creator, one ruler. Know ye not that ye are Gods?

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Mon 05/23/11 10:01 PM
well, the god of basketball blessed the mavericks tonight, and the god of spaghetti was watching over me while i cooked... but the god of euchre was nowhere around when i lost about 10 in a row... so i will sacrifice a loaf of garlic bread in his honor, as long as the garlic bread god doesn't get pissed off...

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Tue 05/24/11 09:49 AM
There`s Only One GOD, He the Absolute, He`s the benevolent He is the creator, He is by himself and has no Partners and only has one message to mankind.

If you have any questions please ask.

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Tue 05/24/11 11:29 AM

There`s Only One GOD, He the Absolute, He`s the benevolent He is the creator, He is by himself and has no Partners and only has one message to mankind.

If you have any questions please ask.



John 10:34
10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

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Tue 05/24/11 11:40 AM
Edited by iwasaking77 on Tue 05/24/11 11:43 AM
Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?" What he was trying to say was that if the Jews called "I and my Father are one" blasphemy then they should call what was written in their law "Ye are gods" blasphemy too.

Thats my understanding of your quote....

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Tue 05/24/11 12:13 PM

Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?" What he was trying to say was that if the Jews called "I and my Father are one" blasphemy then they should call what was written in their law "Ye are gods" blasphemy too.

Thats my understanding of your quote....

so where was "god" before when the Greeks and Romans, the ancient Egyptians were around? are all those people in hell right now? they didn't seem to believe in your god, and is there a clause to before the bible was written that keeps them out of hell? what was "god" doing during those times?

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Tue 05/24/11 12:19 PM
Mighty,

As a Human, no amtter what religion i believe in gives me no right to say who`s in the Hell and who`s not. I can`t even Gurantee myself to be in Heaven just cuz i believe in my version of GOD.

My personal understanding of GOD is that he is Omni present, He`s an Absolute entity. He knows everything and He alone has right to judge.

I also believe that since there is only ONE GOD his message is also ONE which is to Submit to him or not out of your free will.

We make our own choices and we alone are responsible.

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Tue 05/24/11 12:25 PM

Mighty,

As a Human, no amtter what religion i believe in gives me no right to say who`s in the Hell and who`s not. I can`t even Gurantee myself to be in Heaven just cuz i believe in my version of GOD.

My personal understanding of GOD is that he is Omni present, He`s an Absolute entity. He knows everything and He alone has right to judge.

I also believe that since there is only ONE GOD his message is also ONE which is to Submit to him or not out of your free will.

We make our own choices and we alone are responsible.


good answer, but it still doesn't answer my question as to where was god before the bible...i'm not attacking you or your religion, just want to know...

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Tue 05/24/11 12:44 PM
Mighty,

If you consider Bible as Word of God, We were not without the ability to receive, understand and obey God before it existed.There are many areas of the world today where Bibles are not available, yet people still can and do know about God. The issue is one of revelation—God’s revealing to man what He wants us to know and understand about Himself. While there has not always been a Bible, there have always been means for man to receive and understand God’s revelation.When i say I think there is ONE GOD with One Message i mean before Bible came there was the Old testament, Psalms. According to my believe GOD Have sent His Messengers/Prophets from time to time to all the nations that existed since the beginning of time. Right from Abraham, Moses, Jesus (PBUT).

Thats my 2 cents...

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Tue 05/24/11 12:49 PM

Mighty,

If you consider Bible as Word of God, We were not without the ability to receive, understand and obey God before it existed.There are many areas of the world today where Bibles are not available, yet people still can and do know about God. The issue is one of revelation—God’s revealing to man what He wants us to know and understand about Himself. While there has not always been a Bible, there have always been means for man to receive and understand God’s revelation.When i say I think there is ONE GOD with One Message i mean before Bible came there was the Old testament, Psalms. According to my believe GOD Have sent His Messengers/Prophets from time to time to all the nations that existed since the beginning of time. Right from Abraham, Moses, Jesus (PBUT).

Thats my 2 cents...


i do not really know if the bible was written by god... i do know it was written by men, it even says so... so if god was speaking through these men, why hasn't he done it since then? I can write some things down and say i was the voice of god, and none of you would believe me, so why do you believe the bible was written with gods voice?

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Tue 05/24/11 01:06 PM
Edited by iwasaking77 on Tue 05/24/11 01:08 PM
Its not just the believe, to me if anyone claims they have words or phrases or verses given by GOD they should stand the test of time. To me the book that i follow does that to me and anyone who`s willing to have an open mind and put some thought process can experience the same.

I am not fully versed in Bible according to my believe system the Old testament(Torah)Talmud, Zaboor ,Bible & Gospels are the Word of God however if over the time it`s edited or there have been any changes to the original text then i think i agree with your point.

Every word,verse that was revealed by GOD comes with a context and in order to understand it i think we must look at the perfection it commands, every verse is not a order or a command but a sign(s) revealed i think.


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Tue 05/24/11 01:09 PM
the paradox is , God could PROVE to everyone his existence, it would require him to provide everyones different definition of 'proof',,,

but being there is so much beauty and miracles around us and the word of the Bible, why SHOULD God go through that trouble, what is it we have done for HIM to DESERVE That extra an effort on his part?

even if he provided another word now, people would place those same doubts upon it because it is 'written' by man



,,for me, there is but ONE God, ONE creator, and I dont feel a desire to demand more proof of his existence than that which he has already provided me to witness and observe,,,,


of course, a god inspired book, would mean that God does indeed enter men through means OTHER Than a book, as he did the authors of the book

it would also mean, unless everyone before the book went to hell, that the book is not the only way to understand what was later written down and not the only way to God and enlightenment

the book is a useful resource, it is not a necessity for everyone, others can achieve that spiritual nourishment elsewhere(As did those who perished prior to the book being written),,,

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Tue 05/24/11 06:09 PM


http://www.gotquestions.org

I typed into the searchbox the following question:

"God prohibits the worship of other gods before him. This means there are other gods and he admits to that. Why do we call Christianity monotheism?"

the search engine took the question, and took twenty minutes before it came back with the answer,

"Don't ask this in public, because the competition will cook us."


There are many "gods", there is but one father, one creator, one ruler. Know ye not that ye are Gods?


Man, give your head a shake please. In one sentence you nail it down that it's an immutable truth that there is only one god. And in the immediately following sentence you say that we are all gods.

You truly have a christian relgious filospher's mentality, Cowboy. To you any obvious or not so obvious logical and contextual contradiction is child's play to ignore, even if these contradicions appear in two adjacent sentences.

You are a truly amazing human creature, and I don't say it sarcastically, romantically or fascetiously.

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Tue 05/24/11 06:12 PM
Edited by wux on Tue 05/24/11 06:15 PM

John 10:34
10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?


Before we proceed furhter on this, can somebody tell me if there is a line in the Old Testament that says, quote, 'Ye are gods'?

Where is that line exactly in the old testament?